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I have a bluetooth headset working fine for calls, however have 2 questions. Has anyone gotten the headset working for things other than calls, such as media player? Also I have a problem with answering the phone with bluetooth turned off, if I turn it on while on the call and give it a minute to sync with headset and then try to transfer the call to the headset it won't work. But if I hang up and call right back the bluetooth will work.
I have the same problem but regrettably no answer: ( :? :? :?
bleuthooth headset
hello i have the bt g2 it s only 12 gramms and its works fine with my mda 2
You can listen media player with your headset ????
Without specific manipulation??? Not possible
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Hi every1!
Actually, until someone (HTC, Micro$oft, or anyone else) comes out with a new Bluetooth stack that support the full Handsfree profile, (something any BT equipped mobile phone already does) there is NO other use of headphones.
Even the more simple functions are not implemented.
I think this is the worst part of the Himalayas right now. A wonderfull piece of hardware, but very poor phone functions.... to say the least.
BT6023
This is the BT Handsfree that Im using now. So far so good. No connection failure.
Handsfree?
Hi nelsonlye!
Sorry to say, but, This is not a headset?
Could you be more specific on the brand and model and the "handsfree" functions it supports?
Does it allow Voice Dial or any other voice input?
It looks like a conventional headset, so if no other functions are implemented, it IS a headset, NOT a handsfree device.
Furthermore, until HTC or Microsoft release a new Bluetooth stack, looks like no new functions will be available. And it seems it will take forever!
Regards.
I need to listen to MP3s throught the bluetooth headset.
I don't need a good sound quality - it's just for speech.
I just want to play that MP3 continuously (again and again) so I'd be able to put on paper as much as possible.
So is there a way to play a MP3 (or any other sound format) using the BT headset?
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
MP3s through Bluetooth
I have a Plantronics M3000 headset when I bonded it with my XDA II I selected the option for the headset profile from BT Tools. When I switch on the headset mode from the Today Screen I get a bleep on the headset but no audio is transferred to the headset it still comes out of the speaker. Do I need to tweak any other settings?
Im guessing that the Plantronics is not fully compatable with the headset profile.
Thanks for any help.
Paul
Rudegar said:
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
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OK. Where can I get the required BT profile? Does the Widcomm driver have it?
It normally works on my PC - I can listen to all sounds form PC throught the BT dongle and BT headset. So it's just a question of driver. Where can I get it for my XDA2?
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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Can u provide more details please? I couldn't find your mentioned headset from Ebay.co.uk
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
how does it handle music ?
i mean does it play one channel of the stereo
or does it play joind mono ?
to me listening to music with 1 ear is pretty useless
can you please also elaborate which rom version ? pocket BT tools installed or not? which BT stack?
the headset and handsfree profile are supported by MOST BT headsets
my jabra 250 suppprts both profiles, but I am never able to channel windows media output through the BT headset ((
so any info would be very insghtful
captin said:
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
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Hi captin,
I had a look on the website. It didn't mention that the handsfree can support xda2. Also, there's no info at all that it can be used to listen mp3.
Can u show us more how you do it?
Thanks
mp3
ok friend to use your headset with xda2 to lesson to mp3 you need widcomstck you can find in our fourm and kai blutooth headset batch you can buy from handango in 3 dollars and you can give to our fourms instool both and make pairing with your headset and thats work fine but only mono beacuse we need blutooth headset streo and in the market only mono thanks
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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I think you must be the only person on the planet that has mp3 working through bluetooth without any patches/hacks/etc, can you please elaborate more because it doesnt work for anybody else.
I am using a Plantronics M1000 (M1500) with iMate 1.52.00WWE.
With Pocket Bluetooth Tools I can use it for Phone calls but not MP3.
Annoyances are -
1. I can't initiate dialling from teh Headset unless I dial from the phone and then hangup (even if BT permanently on).
2. If I leave BT permanently on the Headset battery goes flat very quickly in standby.
3. If a Call comes in on Call Waiting, the call transfers to the phone and I can't get it back to the Headset
Mike Sydney
Any more news on this? The world waits...
Bluetooth/XDA 11 Integration
Hi Guys,
Just thought I would let you know that New Answer Ltd have done bespoke integration work into Bluetooth headsets. For the application that you are talking about, it is possible to develop an app to run MP audio apps to any bluetooth headset. get intouch with [email protected]
Dan
Yesterday, I tried w/ Kai's Bluetooth Headset patch
I've found that it doesn't work with XDAII.
So, I'm still waiting for the new patch.
Besides, does anyone know what Tobias, Pocket Tools developer, is doing?
I've sent emails to him serveral timee But there is no reply. His website also stop progressing as well.
Headset Profile
So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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mlee2 said:
So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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Unfortunately, it's not as simple as just a profile. Since a third party voice dialing software has to be manually added to the XDA II (its not built in), the headset would have no way of knowing which application to "activate" when the headset button was pressed. The only way I see this happening is, if someone can hack the bluetooth stack to detect a headset button press, then route the command to a voice dial software installed on the XDA II. Ideally, the dll would have an interface that would allow you to select the application you want executed when the bluetooth headset button is pressed.
Rumor has it that the iPaq 6300 won't have voice activated dialing either - and it will have the best bluetooth software stack around, the Widcomm stack. If it won't support it, I wouldn't have much hope for the XDA II unless some hacker decides to give it a try. But it sounds like a lot of work.
Reply from South Wing
I sent a email to South Wing about compatibility with the XDA 2 and i got this reply
The XDA II does not support the Bluetooth hands-free profile which is used by the NeoVoice USB headset and gives access to the various hands-free mode features of the device.
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
Overall, without the hands-free mode capability, the features you would miss on are only the following ones: rejecting a call, transferring a call to the phone, last number redialing and disconnecting from the phone.
The headset is available online from expansys.com (type NeoVoice in the search box) where you may acquire the USB cable and car charger for little more.
There you have it from the horses mouth, hope this is some help
Michael
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mlee2 said:
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
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Hmmm. Interesting. But I still don't see how voice dialing can be supported through the headset. Again, the XDA II has no built in voice dialing software, so there's nothing to standardize on. Therefore, your only option is a third party dialing app. So, if you were to install something like Microsoft's Voice Dial, the headset would have no way of knowing that it needs to call the Microsoft Voice Dial EXE when you press the headset button. Other bluetooth phones that do support voice dial can use headsets that, when you press the headset button, can call standard API's that initiate the voice dialing capability on the phone. The XDA II does not have this standard API set.
Anyway, I'm still more interested in pushing standard sound like MP3's and audio books through the BT headset. But the voice dialing stuff is interesting nonetheless.
Hi guys...
have u seen this?
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
And now the question
Can u please have a look for me at the compatibility page... does that means anything for the XDAII?
Of course I mean as far as working as phone is concerned... of course the stereo audio would play.
Do any of u have or have tried the headphones? Do they work with the XDA in phone mode? Could they work?
If you don't know I would play guinea pig and order now!
Thanks,
Chris
from what the page says then it looks like will not be connecting to the xda2 using bluetooth but you just plugin the at minijack and the xda see it as a normal headset
and then the little box sendt the info to the headset
but of cause this would require you to use a minijack 3.5m to 2.5m converter
and you would not be able to use it for phone calls
Thank you... but why?
Dear Rudegar,
can I ask you why?
I do understand I would need the minijac converter and I would not be able to use the wired bottom for phone calls, but I tough I could still use the headset connected via BT for the phone call just as I did with my SE HBH-35 (before I lost it...).
Why you think I would not be able to use via BT? If I use BT tools?
Thanks!
Chris
it all comes down to how they made the device really
as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack
maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box
but the headset dont seem to have a mic
and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand
as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box
not sure about this but i do recall reading somewhere that the headset in the article does NOT work with the xda2. not sure if it's through this forum or another article. now if another chap could find that article somewhere...
a mate of mine living in hong kong tried using this headset with his xda and the bluetooth didn't work...unless of course he was doing something wrong so don't peg it on me
given that the bluetooth headset does not work with the xda2's bluetooth; the reason the converter may be needed is because the dongle might have a built-in 3.5mm jack. the xdas use 2.5mm jacks; thus needing the 3.5-2.5 mm converter. once you have the converter then basically you have the dongle piggy-backing on the xda...reminds me of the time i used a jabra bt with my xda1; the headset had an adaptor for non-bluetooth phones...downside was that you had the jabra dongle piggy-backing. the same could apply for the bluetake headset. you would need the dongle to be connected to the xda in order for the bluetooth to function.
i also recall reading that the bluetooth of the xda2 does not support wmp...
cheers
-r
Bluetooth Adaptor & headset
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If you are looking for a Bluetooth headset for non Bluetooth device, this could be the solution!!!
Thank you, let me expain better!
Thanks to u all for all the replies to my question.
Let me be a little more spefic. There are 2 parts to how this headset works:
1) As a stereo headset connected via BT to the company's little box that connect to any 3.5 stereo jack (no matter what they are for... stereo, ipod, or XDAII bottom plug with an adapter).
For this use I have no dubt it would work since the 3.5 jack is same for everybody
2) As a headset (it supports both Headset and Hands-Free profiles) to pair with the XDA II as I would do with my SE HBH-35 for use as a phone only.
Would this bit work?
Thank you!
Chris
Rudegar:
"as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack"
Correct for function 1
"maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box"
My understanding is that u do this and through this connection u can use the headset only as a phone oyu need to ALSO connect to the box to also get stereo sound
"but the headset dont seem to have a mic"
It does
"and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand"
It doesn't matter. I hope I would get audio streaming from the bottom 2.5 to 3.5 jack to little-box to BT to headset
AND
the phone function connecting the headset in (Headset or Hands-Free profile) to the XDAII. The only think I care about the stack is that it pairs with the headset in phoneheadset mode.
"as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box"
Correct, but I still need the headset to be BT compatible with the XDAII to use function 2
Robson: thank you, I wrote the maker asking if there are any known issue with the XDAII
but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone ?
have anybody tried to connect a 2.5m headset the one that comes with the device and then bound a headset and see if the 2.5m headset interfear with the bluetooth when it rings ?
"but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone?"
I understand that by device you mean the headphones. I am not sure if it drops the connection or not, but u here the ring and when u answer it stops the music
I have attached the manual I found on the website
would be pretty cool to see a test of it with xda2 and maybe an ipaq so one could see if it would be even cooler if you were using the non ms bluetooth stack
I bought it!
I bought it!
I will let u all know if it works once arrives... I will have one week to test it or send it back.
I don't know if it would work much better with an Ipaq... as far as I know you can't get stereo audio out through BT from an Ipaq either...
i believe that the ipaq's bluetooth stack should support it but i'm not 100%
some guy in this forum did manage to get audio from his pc to his bluetooth headset but the quality was pretty poor
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
the imate and xda2 and such are listed on the compatible list of this headset
but just how compatible we'll see when you or somebody else get hold of one and try it out
F**k what I said, it don't means s**t now...
Hi guys... got it yesterday... returning it today...
Qucik summary:
1) It worked fairly well as stereo headphone with the included box
2) It paired with the XDAII, but the audio was very ppr with a lot of eco and the botton to answer or close the call did not work with the original BT (1.52) nor with BT Tools.
Sorry guys....
wonder if it would have worked better with the WidCom stack
Did you try contacting their tech support at all? Usually companies with a new product like that are willing to work with users.
Yes I did
Yes, I did contact them:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian
Subject: Compatibility with XDAII
To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can I use the i-PHONO BT420 EX Hi-Fi Sports Headphone Kit with an XDAII/iMate/QTek2020/OrangeM1000? (They are different names for the same pda/phone produced by HTC).
Are there any known issues?
Let me expain better myself:
1) I know and I am aware I cannot get stereo audio out of the PDA through BT from any application unless I connect the stereo jack to an adapter that get me to a 3.5 jack to connect to the BT transmitter box
2) What I would like to know is if I could pair and use the headphones with the BT of the the XDAII just for the phone part (as I would do with any other BT headset), so getting the mic and speaker to work
Thanks,
Chris
I go no answer... in the mean time I managed to buy, receive and send it back.
Hi cchris
Here you have one working Bluetooth stereo headset.
I have bought it for 1 1/2 month ago and works great with the Xda II
Here is the link.
http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/eng/product/product_bap.php
It work as a bluetooth headset with a 128M mp3 player.
If you listen to music and if you receve a call the the mp3 goes down and you can answer the call.
You receve a USB Dongel witch you can connect to the PC and listen to stereo music t ex.
Regards
Josef
Sounds Great but...
Thank you JoseF!
It sounds great!
I believe u mean the BT Headset on the link given (the BT Stereo Headset is reported as not yet available)
If I understand u correctly, by saying it works great with the XDAII you mean that it pairs. Can I ask a few questions:
-does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
I just bought a 1GB SD card, I don't want to carry a separate device for MP3, I would like to do everything from the XDA, also get the audio from the movies I play with the thing!
Thank you!
Chris
P.S.: By the way where did u bought it/where do u think I can get the best price for it?
Hi Chris,
does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
Yes it has a botton to push to answer.
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
No,not at the moment, It will be possibel in the future.If sameone can make the widcomm stack to work (h6315).
I dont know if the device is available at the moment.I have a friend that bought one in Januari,It was just 64M storage.
I bought mine in Juli , They have change the storage to 128M.
If you are intrested contact khcoi . Take a look at FAQ at http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/bbs/rboard.php?id=e_qa
Regards
JoseF
I have a Vario II with Skype installed.
I realise that Skype recommends that you use the supplied headset when using the product for calling (rather than the speakerphone) but I was wondering if I can use my Bluetooth headset instead of the wired headset?
Bluetooth works fine with ordinary phone calls so I sort of expected it to work with Skype (doesn't the phone just see a Bluetooth headset as a standard headset once a partnership has been established?) - but it doesn't appear to work.
Am I missing something or does Skype for Pocket PC not support Bluetooth? And, if not, why not?
Skype probably doesn't use BT Headset profile. They probably should. But look at how long it took MS to make Voice Command work with BT and on our phones it didn't even work. I bet A2DP stereo headsets would work since it is an audio sending profile and not related to calls but you wouldn't be able to use the MIC except for the one on the phone. This might be enough functionality someone could try if they haven't already. However, there is the utility that someone wrote for the Samsung SCH-i730 that redirect all audio to the BT headset. There is no reason it shouldn't work on any PPC that uses the Microsoft BT stack. So try it out and see if it works.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/391448-post1.html
You need to create shortcuts to the toggle executable to make it easy to use.
There is a reg entry that will allow you to patch all sound to a BT headset.
HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand
LaunchAPEnable should be 0 instead of 1. Once done the headset hardware button will be remapped to connect to the device instead of launching voice command.
You will still be able to press the button to answer calls, it just won't initiate voice dial for new calls.
I would suggest one of those small freeware that allow to remap the hardware button (my button right softw key's been remapped to display a full program menu, that includes the voice command). I'm using a program called New Menu for Windows Mobile 5.
Hope this will help,
Sam
Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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sorry for the bump... but if this can somehow work it would be a godsend... any ideas oh wise ones?
read my previous post.
To toggle Audio to A2DP you might want to see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485391#post1485391
It's an easy way of switching audio to the headset and back to the device. This is for A2DP only.
hey guys,i was hoping for a different thing..is it possible to change the sound from the loudspeaker to the small speaker?? like using a real phone instead of using earphones..i dont have any earphones or bt headsets for the moment so i was hoping that someone can help me out here..its annoying if ur using skype while other people can hear the person you are talking to..
p/s:i've search everywhere including this forum,but still no solution..
No. Apparently it's a flaw in WM: it doesn't give apps access to the phone speaker.
that's a shame..hope microsoft will consider this for their future product
Bluetooth does work with Skype
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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Try www.Fring.com it has the Skype, MSN, ICQ in there they're all work with the bluetooth. (check the setting after the installation to allow bluetooth headset)
Hi,
Some background:
I'm currently working on a carputer project. Everything is working wonderfully and right now I'm going through the final phase of having my HTC Universal (WM6) phone use the car speakers and microphone as headset.
On my computer I am running on Widcomm BT ver 5. The Universal phone is running the MS stack. I managed to pair and connect successfully with my WM6 device. The headset works very nicely both ways, but with a problem:
Whenever a phone call comes in the phone automatically answers the call without even asking me. It rings once then answers. This does not happen while not using a BT headset nor does it happen with my regular portable Samsung BT headset. My universal is set to never receive calls automatically on all profiles. I'm assuming the problem is in the Widcomm driver but there doesn't seem to be anything I can change in the software settings.
Does anybody know how to solve this problem? I obviously don't want every single call that comes in to get answered. I wouldn't even mind answering the call from the phone itself (and not from the PC) as long as the voice gets routed from the phone to the car stereo with the external mic.
Thanks!
Yaniv