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Question about virtual BT com ports

Hi,
I have managed to install my old Tomtom navigator 224 on a qtek 9100. Everything seems to work except that I cant select my bluetooth com port in the GPS application.
My GPS can be connected to virtual bluetooth port com 6 or 7, but I only get to choose Com 0, 2, 3 and 9 in the Tomtom GPS application (v. 209).
If anyone know of a way to either list com7 in the GPS application or a method to assign com9 to a bluetooth serial port I would really appreciate it if you could share it with me.
In the old days on my Qtek 2020 there was a trick where one could install a Widcomm bluetooth stack - but I am not sure if this is possible on this device...
Regards
Lorents

i have similar problem..
please let me know if you find a solution...

Did you install the TomTom 5.21 update? v5.0 isn't completely compatible with WM5 and won't list the bluetooth ports

i don't need tomtom. I use igo (navigation software)

you need to enable the "gps settings" icon in settings, then you can create a temp com 6 port which will show up in tomtom gps settings as a new choice of port.
will find you the link, unless someone else finds it quicker.
found it
start from step 3 for enabling gps icon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386

GPS Bluetooth with TomTom

Hi All,
With some tricks I managed to install TomTom 5 navigator but I'm having trouble connecting it to the GPS bluetooth mouse from Rikaline 6033.
I paired the device and assigned serial port com6 to it but I cannot see port com6 within TomTom.
TomTom bluetooth support is installed.
Any suggestions?

Tried this freeware?
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
Good luck!
"Pocket Bluetooth Tools adds the missing Bluetooth functions to the O2 XDA II (or other compatible PDAs like the MDA II).
The current version includes:
Support for Bluetooth Headsets and Car kits (Headset and Handsfree Profil). You may use up to 9 devices at the same time and you do not need to bond the again.
Support for the SSP profile (serial port), e.g. for GPS receivers or modems
Support for ActiveSync (synchronization with Outlook and Internet connection)
Switch Bluetooth on and off automatically
The current version 1.60 of the ROM includes already a virtual serial port but unfortunately it is a dynamic port, which is not visible to many applications. Also the ActiveSync support is difficult and complicated to use and if you want to synchronize with different computers you have always to couple the device again.
For future releases I plan the following improvements:
Support for Bluetooth network access points
Send contacts and files through Bluetooth"

Thanks for your suggestion but two things make me hasitating...
I have a qtek S200 and the software is clearly designed for XDAII and similars.
I do have sertial port profile (assigned port 6 to the GPS mouse)
The only thing is that I do not see the serial port com6 in the TomTom application.

riiiiighhhtt,
ive had this problem with tomtom 5.0 and my bluetooth GPS device, but dont be dismayed, there is a solution! I hope that this can be applied to you and your bluetooth mouse, ...
ok, as far as i can tell there is a problem with tomtom 5.0 and the avaliable com ports. In your bluetooth com manager you can choose any avalible port, but tomtom 5.0 will only give you a few of those to choose from. Ok, to make this work, you just need a hexeditor on you pc, there are even some for the pocketpc so you can do it all on your device.
so, what you need to do is, go into tomtom, select a port for your bluetooth device (even if its not the same one you chose in the bluetooth manager) then quit out of tomtom and then sync your device, and explore it in windows
ok in:
/my device/program files/navigator
there is a file called:
naviagtor.cfg
what you need to do
is open that file up in a hexeditor, and once open it should look something like:
...................a.*....."................[email protected]domain.com$x8ysvy.n: COM7:...............
Where COM7 is the selected bluetooth port you chose in tomtom
All you need to do is change it to:
...................a.*....."................[email protected]domain.com$x8ysvy.n: COM0:...............
Where COM0 is the com port you chose in the bluetooth manager, for your specific bluetooth device
save, and now copy the navigator.cfg file back to you device, from whence it came, and then restart tomtom
it might take a little longer than you might expect, but it should now pick up your device, ... however, if you want it to continue to work, DO NOT GO IN TO THE TOMTOM BLUETOOTH PORT A SELECTOR AND CHANGE ANYTHING, as this will reset the navigator.cfg file and then you have to go through the whole process again!!
If you have a few devices you want to connect to tomtom, i would suggest setting them all up on 'dummy' tomtom ports, then setting up the REAL ports in the bluetooth manager, then changing the navigator.cfg file in a hexeditor. Once you have a decent .cfg file, save it to your memory card, JUST IN CASE, you mess up your tomtom bluetooth and need to work while you're out and about
hope that helps
lucasbuck

what version of tomtom are you using, i had the same problem on my wizard with version 5. when i updated to 5,21 from the tomtom site it added the extra com ports in tom tom and everything worked fine.
Ady B)

This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings 3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec) 4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there 5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
STEP 2: Set up the GPS & Tomtom
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none) 6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
If you follow the above exactly it should hopefully work.
Dave

davidkw said:
This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings 3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec) 4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there 5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
STEP 2: Set up the GPS & Tomtom
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none) 6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
If you follow the above exactly it should hopefully work.
Dave
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Ok Dave, I did exactly what you did, and thanx a lot, it's working quite well !
But something annoying is happening: I have to do the BT part EVERY TIME I launch TT5 (It actually asks for it, password, COM port etc...) !!
As if my pairing wasn't saved...
Any advice ?
Thx
JD

How does the Prophet perform with TomTom and MediaPlayer running at the same time?
Sluggish?

On the Prophet, you learn one thing very quickly:
Never launch 2 programs at the same time ! :lol:

tomtom
hi which hexeditor did you use and where did you download it from. unable to get one with the script line like you typed. help much appreciated.
cheers

hi there,
sorry to trouble you again. would it be possible for you to give a more descriptive explanation regarding the editing with the hexeditor.
cheers

This is how I did it:
1) Pair the two devices, non secure connection
2) Settings/Connections/Bluetooth/COM Ports - Select a new outgoing port
3) Select your GPS and assign COM Port
4) Start TomTom Settings - select "Another GPS"
5) Select the same COM Port as above
Wonderful combination, selling my Explorist 500

hi there,
i am having the same problem as niobium. anyone solved this problem! please let me know. help much appereciated.
cheers
niobium said:
Hi All,
With some tricks I managed to install TomTom 5 navigator but I'm having trouble connecting it to the GPS bluetooth mouse from Rikaline 6033.
I paired the device and assigned serial port com6 to it but I cannot see port com6 within TomTom.
TomTom bluetooth support is installed.
Any suggestions?
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TOM TOM 5.21 GPS PAIRING
But something annoying is happening: I have to do the BT part EVERY TIME I launch TT5 (It actually asks for it, password, COM port etc...) !!
As if my pairing wasn't saved...
Any advice ?
JUST TRY WITHOUT THE SECURE CHECKBOX MARKED !!!!!!
Thx
JD[/quote]

Re: TOM TOM 5.21 GPS PAIRING
educa said:
JUST TRY WITHOUT THE SECURE CHECKBOX MARKED !!!!!!
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Yes that was it
Thx
JD

Thank you!!!!
(secure checkmark) worked like a charm!!!
I was ready to toss my device out the window.
Now hopfully when I get in the car, my Handsfree and GPS won't kill each other!
Thanks again

Alternative Bluetooth GPS Receiver Setup for Tom Tom Navigator 6
davidkw said:
This is what I did today on my XDA Mini S. It's collected from this and other forums.
First I had to install the GPS icon on the PDA in settings/connections using a freeware registry editor.
STEP 1: ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
1. Start up a registry editor
2. Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
3. Delet the Dword in there and the value and replace them with:
A new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
4. And create a new string called "(default)" with no value (I think there was originally a string called redirect, rename this "(default)" if it's there
5. The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings. (check it does)
note: you may have to soft reset after each stage if it appears not to work straight away but i managed to make these changes then saved them soft reset and then went to control panel in settings and a GPS option was there. You'll need this for the next stage. Wait about 1 minute before doing the soft reset.
Dave
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I came unstuck at this point and had to fiddle around until I finally managed to get my BT GPS device to talk to my phone and TTN6. The following steps worked for me.
1. Pair your BT GPS with your handset BEFORE installing TTN6 (or 5 for that matter).
2. On the handset go to Settings > Connections > GPS, set the GPS Program port to COM8 and the GPS Hardware port to whatever COM your GPS device uses (mine uses COM5). The Baud rate should be set according to your GPS device's manual (mine is 4800).
3. Install TTN6 on your device and follow the setup. When asked, select whichever BT GPS receiver you're going to use and use COM8 as your communication port (if it hasn't appeared, go back to step 2 and try using COM9 instead of COM8).
4. Exit TTN6.
5. Go to Settings > Connections > GPS again, but this time set the GPS Hardware port to "(None)" and the GPS Program port whatever COM your GPS device uses (again, mine uses COM5).
6. Restart TTN6. The program should now pick up your BT GPS device.
If you're still having problems, I'm afraid I can't help much further. This worked for me, but I have a UK Orange SPV M600. It may not work for everyone.
Happy hunting,
Josh

niobium said:
Thanks for your suggestion but two things make me hasitating...
I have a qtek S200 and the software is clearly designed for XDAII and similars.
I do have sertial port profile (assigned port 6 to the GPS mouse)
The only thing is that I do not see the serial port com6 in the TomTom application.
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Maybe I'm late or wrong, but you CAN NOT have the same serial port asigned to two devices!, depending on your version of TOM TOM you may be out of the serial port supported range....
BT serial ports are the same as the "old" PC ones.... one cable at a time....
Hope it helps.

Help before I kill my phone............
My head is going to explode at this rate.
Can anyone help me, at basic level, how to:
1. Get a reg editor, by name not just 'get a reg editor' as I have tried 2 now to no avail.
2. Is the GPS settings already in the registry to edit on my 02 mini S or do I need to get that from somewhere before I start?
Currently I can get the bluetooth to pair, can create another OUTGOING port and thats it. It wont actually give me any device even though phone is paired to it
Why cant it just be SIMPLE!!!!
BTW, Im running TTN6 and an 02 Mini S.
Cheers for now, Taff

I got tomtom (but version 6) working flawlessly with my S200. I assigned COM6 as the outgoing port for the GPS, then assigned COM7 as an incoming port. I enabled a secure connection. Then i disabled bluetooth and started tomtom (tomtom enables and disables BT automatically).
I added the GPS device as "other GPS device", waited a few seconds and there it was working.
Maybe the problem is your tomtom version being too old?
My GPS receiver is a BT-338.

Setting up BT GPS for TomTom on o2 XDA Mini S... HELP!

Hey all!
First post here!
Ive installed TomTom on my o2 XDA Mini S but am having some problems getting the BT GPS receiver to communicate!
Ive had a search on this forum and followed these instructions:
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
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Sooo.. under the bluetooth settings i could only choose between COM ports 6 and 7 - so i chose 7...
However in TomTom it only lists COM port 9 as an available COM port!? :?
Anyone else had problems with this or can offer any advice??
Any help much appreciated!
Mark

Ive done some more searching...
It appears that my problem might be due to the fact that my TomTom is version 5 and i read somewhere that only version 5.2 is compatible with WM5 phones? Is that correct??
Would updating my TomTom to v5.2 therefore allow me access to configure the COM ports correctly - or even better do it automatically so that i dont need to configure it manually! lol ??

Hi Mark,
i had the same problem - basically if you have Navigator 5.21 when you goto GPS CONFIGURE in TomTom you will see com ports 6 & 7 listed.
In the bluetooth settings of your XDA the GPS receiver needs to be set to COM 6 and the incoming port needs to be set to COM 7.
you only have to do this set up procedure once.
That should do it!
regards
Mark

and don't forget to set the connection to be NOT secure, when you specify the outgoing COM port...if you chose a secure connection, tomtom will forget the pairing when you restart your GPS...
also, if the com port is not listed in the TomTom GPS configuration, you can chose another port, shut down TomTom, and manualy change the com port to the desired com-port by editing the navigator.cfg configuration file
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L

GPS in settings, tomtom problem

I am trying to set up tomtom 5.21 with my BTGPS74 receiver but cant get the two to communicate. I know there is some settings you can change in settings/system/gps but the problem I have is I dont have the gps option in settings anywhere. Am I missing something? Does any on know what I should do. Tomtom wants me to use port 3 or 7 but when I try to set them in bluetooth settings it says its not possible check your settings. Any suggestions would b welcome. Thanks.
P.S I know the receiver works as it still works well with my N70.

...you should've gotten a GPS icon if software GPS recognized.
In rgister you can force simulation.
hklm\controlpanel\gps]
delete redirect and add 'group' with dword=2
Then GPS icon will appear.
I gave it programport 7,hardware 6, baudrate=57600
gps auto checked
I'm not sure about the settings...

I had to create incomming and outgoing com ports on my 3100 (not sure if you need both)??
TomTom used com port 9 and works like a dream
as soon as you start the programme it connects automatically as long as my receiver is on.
It even connects when the BT on the 3100 is turned off - it starts the BT automaticlally when tomtom runs!

Yeah i agree all you need to do is set up the com ports, then fire up tomtom and select the com port you just set up and away it goes
Chris

Thanks for the replies guys. I know I have to set the com ports but the problem I have is there is nowhere for me to do this. For some reason the gps settings is missing from the system/settings. I am going to try to reinstall tomtom to see if it helps. Tomtom has ports 3 and 7 showing but they seem to be taken by something else so I cant configure my receiver on either of them.

I have a slightly different problem... my TyTn can connect to the BT GPS reciever, but as soon as TomTom tries to calculate a route, or I click the GPS signal icon it crashes back to the Today screen...
I've got TomTom installed with 5.21 update, anyone had any problems like this?

you just need to pair your bluetooth device go to settings connections and bluetooth and add new device, let your tytn search and it will find a new device when you have paired it select new comm port outgoing
I have no gps setting in control panel either
Cheers
Chris

Hi,
i have a strange problem with my BT. I cant create a incoming or outgoing BT port. I dont know why but it wont let me create any ports.
Anyone with the same odd problem?

I had a similar problem, Tytn would only let me choose COM0 (Zero) as outgoing port, and TT works fine with it. However, I would like to add Mapking for Asia, and this navi soft will not accept a GPS on COM0. Anybody understands why Tytn is only offering COM0 as outgoing ports for GPS?

I have set the com4 as outgoing port and now tomtom seems to work fine.

thanks for that info.
I don't know why only port 0 and all other ports are blocked but TT works for me now. I only need to wait for a better ROM and i can leave my Wizard home

I have written to a good contact at HTC since I need COM ports other than 0 for Asian Mapking navi soft (in add. to TT) . Will keep you posted.

Answer from HTC:
"As my testing, the Outgoing port is not limited with COM0. PaPaGo can accept with COM0, COM2, COM4, COM8, and COM9. I think the limitation of COM0 is the software limitation of TOMTOM, So if the user wants to use Mapking that only support COM1~7, he need delete the outgoing port COM0, and reassign another COM port for the BT GPS."
I imagine the problem lies between the Tytn and TomTom only, and other navi soft would find other COM ports. But I am kind of hesitant to interfere with a working TomTom, and go through the outgoing COM port game again...

I'm using Navigon and set up an outgoing Connection on com2 and it works fine for me.
sounds like TT is the problem ...
greetz
sphings

Guys, let me try to help you a little bit, as I work in navigation software development (Destinator).
1. The COM ports has nothing to do with the actual software you are running. This is pre-defined in the ROM you are using. That is also the reason why we see variations here - we use different ROMs.
2. In order of enabling a COM port, you do NOT need to discover the GPS icon on the settings. It is quite useless unless you wish to work simultaniusly with more than one software.
3. To enable a COM port, after you pair the GPS, look down for the tab COM Ports in the BT settings Manager. You only need to create Outgoing COM.
4. Strange but usually you will only be able to choose between 2 COM ports. The rest are hidden by the OS. MAKE SURE that you disabled the "Secure Connections". Default key for all the GPS receivers is "0000" and for Globalsat 308 is "2003". The last is AKA HP GPS.
5. If you cannot enable any other COM port than COM0, this is a ROM problem and you should contact your ROM provider like the mobile carrier. You can also try to enable other COM ports with the attached CAB file. Simply run it, it will expose all COM ports for you and now you should start trying. I reccomend to test COMs 4-8 first, normally, it will solve your problems. (Note: I got this file previously here and did not create it myself).

There have been may posts about TomTom not recognising B GPS's.
One solution that doesnlt seem to be mentioned here id to ensure that the name of the GPs in BT connections actually ends in "GPS"..
If it doesn;t renove the pairing and re-pari , but change the name this time to something that ends in "GPS"...
good luck
Charlie Grillo

Thanks guys, found another solution that works for me now:
1) Set your Bluetooth GPS to another COM port than 0 (TomTom´s standard port 6 was not available, so I choose 2)
2) open Programs/Navigator/navigator.cfg with a text editor, change COM0 to COM2
3) start TomTom - working on COM 2!
Started Mapking, found COM 2 - working now.

hello fellas,
as you can see im new here. im thinking of buying the TYTN, a sector which i have never explored before (pda sector).
it sounds great with the applications and due to my work, a need for a pda is becoming bigger.
i posted in this message due to the GPS topic.
i got a very stupid question which you may recieve occasionally if i buy the tytn.. :twisted:
why do a person need BT enabled GPS? i read you can connect it to your PDA but for what reason?
thanks in advance and apologies for any inconvience..

@D_G - welcome to this board
In order to run navigation software on your Tytn you need a external GPS connected to it. Easiest solution is a external GPS connected via Bluetooth.
Another solution would be to buy a PDA phone with a GPS receiver on board, for example the ETen G500.
Of course we would all be interested in a UMTS PDA with integrated GPS, with acceptable battery life, but that will take some time...

thanks lucas for the answer. but why would you need a navigation software if you have a GPS device? in either case you will need to have both devices in a particula blue tooth range. right?
this means you will need your handheld device + the GPS to activate the navigation software, or dd I miss something?!

Setting up BT services on different ports

I have two services on my windows computer that I would like to use simultaneously. One is my bluetooth-connected GPS and one is a handsfree profle (using phoco) from my Cingular 8525 (factory rom).
Unfortunately both of these devices set up on COM9 and give me no options for anything else. To connect to one, I must disconnect from the other.
I have tried adding available ports on my 8525 both through the bluetooth preferences (new outgoing port...) and by the registry hack described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261844
in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Serial\Ports\SupportedPorts I added every port I could think of but see no difference in the behavior of the phone. Ihave unpaired and re-paired the device and always only get the single option for the COM port to use.
Do you guys have any ideas how I could get another port to work with my 8525? Currently COM8 is set for activesync and COM9 for serial connection, but I cannot change either of these.
I am running the default BT stack on the 8525 and would like to avoid the Widcomm stack if possible. I am running the widcomm stack on the windows PC.
Thanks.