Just a simple question..how do use WIFI! - Networking

I have obtained a wifi socket 802.11b which seems to work OK in my XDA II and identifies hot spots ok, which is neat as I live in the UK and work in the Netherlands. But how do I connect, do I have to subscribe to someone. The costs for an annual subscriptions appear quite high. Most of the help stuff on the internet is a bit confusing to a non-techie like me. :?:

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ThunderHawk Pre-Release version 1.10 XDAII

Fianally ...I'm going to test it right now!
http://www.bitstream.com/wireless/prerelease.html
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marco
What exactly is it and what does it do ?
What advantages will I have over IE ?
it's *the* web browser for pocketpc imho ...check their web page
ciao
marco
Looks good so far. Normally, I find GPRS to slow for casual web browsing. Only WiFi can work well enough with Pocket IE or Netfront type browsers. But since ThunderHawk only sends and receives keystrokes and screen data - and if you don't mind potentially sending personal info via the Bitstream servers - browsing over GPRS is very usable.
Yes Dale,
I was tesing it for over one hour and it's really really fast
ciao
marco
Is that a freeware ?
I saw it supports Hebrew fonts, would I be able to view Hebrew based web pages ?
The software is free, but is useless without the proxy service from Bitstream, which costs $50 US per year.
i think that it worths every buck
ps: dale ...i descovered right now that tekntoys has already charged my c/c even if they do not yet have the backpack in stock! :evil:
ciao
marco
They charged mine a week ago. They claimed that the credit card processing company was supposed to "hold" instead of "charge".
I don't know if you saw my other post in the "Expansys" thread, but Tek n Toys claims they will have stock and begin shipping out to customers this week. With overnight shipping, I hope to have my backpack by Friday.
Despite the incredicle clusterf*ck this has become, Tek n Toys has been reliable in the past, so I'm not worried about getting stiffed, just annoyed at the lack of communication about it all.
ok ...hope to have mine soon too ... :wink:
ciao
marco
DaleReeck said:
Looks good so far. Normally, I find GPRS to slow for casual web browsing. Only WiFi can work well enough with Pocket IE or Netfront type browsers. But since ThunderHawk only sends and receives keystrokes and screen data - and if you don't mind potentially sending personal info via the Bitstream servers - browsing over GPRS is very usable.
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Looks that we have a different situation here in CZ !
Lots of people using GPRS as their main data connection. GPRS unlimited subscription costs cca $23/month and it is relatively fast comparing with classic telephone line (coding scheme CS4 + comprimation proxy = up to 100kbps speed for GPRS). ADSL and other connection possibilities are expansive because of Telecom's almost monopoly, so we all have mobiles ;-) A good ilustration how monopoly and high prices help to deploy progressive technologies ;-)))
I'm not surprised that coverage in Europe is strong as it is the primary cellular service technology for the continent. But in the US, unfortunately, GPRS falls behind CDMA for throughput and overall coverage, especially in the area I live. Coverage is good with GPRS, but I get slow data speeds. OK for email, not OK for web browsing - unless I'm using a proxy like ThunderHawk.
Does anyone know which programm else could be used in order to convert the screen of O2?
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
gratefuled said:
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
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Make sure you are installing the CAB file that you download from the middle of the web page, not the "exe" download from the buttons near the top.
DaleReeck said:
gratefuled said:
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
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Make sure you are installing the CAB file that you download from the middle of the web page, not the "exe" download from the buttons near the top.
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i'm having the same problem, downloaded from the middle of the page, installed, registered, inputed reg. info, launched.
thunderhawk splash screen comes up, then after about 15-20 sec. i get a message saying "unable 2 connect at this time, please try again later".
i've checked 2 make sure that i was connected 2 gprs, even un/reinstalled, and still nothing. very dissappointing since i've been waiting 4 quite some time 4 the imate version 2 be released.
Hmmm. It seems to work OK for me...
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Hmmm. It seems to work OK for me...
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by the way i'm using T-Mo's free gprs on an imate with the official imate update.
Thunderhawk FREE TRAIL
Well, installed Thunderhawk on my MDA2, everything fine, then after connection i cannot get passed the upgrade screen. So that 30 day free trail is rubbisch :twisted:
It is just a discount, first pay then pleasure, where have i heard and felt that before.
So a simple uninstall will do the job. sorry guys a will not depart with money before i try. I am Dutch and that explains everything.
FREE TRAIL HE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Has anyone tried the service from ONSPEED.COM

I haven't tried this yet, but it appears to offer increased web surfing speeds of up to 5 times, by compresssing data and accesseing it through their servers. I know other companies offer similar products, but onspeed offer the services for dial-up from PC MAC and PPC all for only £1.99/month.
What's more all the reviews say that it actually works and gives you a massive speed boost. Whilst a speed boost is great, what interest me more is the ability to use GPRS and because the data is so well compressed, you should be able to enjoy a massive saving on GPRS charges - now that really is appealing.
Has anybody here actually tried this service on PC, MAC or more importantly in my case on PPC?
www.onspeed.com
I've been using it on a laptop in various places around the World for the last 18 months and it works well (generally) - especially if your using a copper wire connection. Sometimes a problem when it has to go through screening (like Saudi), but normaly very good.
I've been waiting for the ppc version for a while- very much for the reasons you listed and installed it last week - Seemed very quick over Orange GPRS, didn't notice any big savings, though admittedly I haven't downloaded too many pages yet.
Thanks for that. I spoke to someone else yesterday who has been using it on dial-up and says it does actually work.

I love my Wiz now, but why is it so lame 'out of the box'?

I love my MDA more and more now. But after my first week or two i was begining to think i had made a mistake buying it. Thanks to the kind and helpful folk around here and other forums, i now have it doing everything i wanted it to do and in the way i want it to do it.
I use it for TomTom, playing DIXed DVD's, music, podcasts, games, the usual email/web duties and more. And thanks to the great WiFi 'G' reg hack i can now stream my large lossles FLAC files (with the help of fantasitc Conduits Pocket Player) right into my Hifi system, just like my Squeezebox 3 media player. It's actually much better than an ipod (albeit with less storage when out of the house - although i could access my music at home from a hotspot). A fully fledged media streaming device for free! (well, a small fee for Pocket Player and a 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack adaptor).
Not only does this hack also enable 'g' speeds, but i can confirm that it also massively increases performance on 'b' speed networks too (which mine is limited to due to being an 'adhok' network).
Sure, a faster proc, better camera and maybe even 3G would be nice. But i have no wish to ever make video calls or use Skype (i'm the geek of the group and no-one else i know uses it).
I understand there will always be better third party software (Media Player is an utter waste of space for example) but why should we have to make techy and annoying tweaks to the registry, just to get the best from the unit? Why the hell do we need to hack the reg just to make a basic settings change, such as hiding SIM contacts (which is an option in just about every mobile from the last 5 years).
Is it just bad planning? Poor thinking on the manufactures part? or is there just a genuine reason for 'hiding' these settings and not making them accessable from standard menu's?
The older i get, the less time i have to mess around so much. I have better things to do these days to be honest.
Surely they would have more to gain by activating the performance increases themselfs, rather than us more tech savy types to figure out how to alter the registry. Half the things this device has been slated for in reviews can actually be sorted, but the average (make that normal) buyers of this device will be feeling a bit short changed if you ask me.
I guess the only thing left for me to do now is dump the T-Mobile ROM and use a more slimline one. Or maybe i should just figure out who to lose some of the crap from my existing install?
What is it with these companies? Don't they know when they are on to a good thing? Or maybe, just maybe it to keep us coming back for more and upgrading year after year? Hey ho...
/rant over.
Dom
Very interesting topic, well put and one which I'm sure will be relevant to me very soon...y'see my Wizard arrives in two days and it was reading posts such as yours which helped me take the plunge.
I don't mind messing about with PDAs, phones, PCs etc to get the the best performance but (as you rightly point out) we shouldn't have to. However, given the thousand of threads and posts on this (incredibly good) site, I am somewhat confused about what to do first with my Wizard.
So, could you please take a few minutes to post what changes, hacks etc you have done to get yours where you (almost) want it to be?
Many thanks in advance.
Mos
mosgeo said:
So, could you please take a few minutes to post what changes, hacks etc you have done to get yours where you (almost) want it to be?
Many thanks in advance.
Mos
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The first things i would always do after a hard reset (format), after syncing back all my contacts/callender of course...
Reg hacks (main ones, i have forgot a few) -
*Hide SIM contacts (so the dont appear pointlessly twice)
*Enable 'g' speed Wifi
* Disable the annoying 'you are about to go online' message. You will understand when you get yours, VERY VERY annoying - you get it even when you are online and just switch back to PIE.
* There are some good performace tweaks to, which i forgot about.
Essential software i could not be without (some free, some not - unless you are naughty. Don't be naughty now )
*TomTom (Sat Nav)
*Memory Map Pocket Nav + GPS and the O.S. maps i use for walking
*TCPMP - The best video player
* Conduits Pocket Player - the best music player IMO (Streaming, gapless playback and OGG/FLAC support - nice). costs a few beer tokens, but free good alternatives are available.
*Resco File explorer and Reg editor.
*Opera Browser - Renders pages faster than PIE, handles java script etc better and Tabbed browsing makes GPRS speeds much less of a pain.
*Memmaid - for cleaing up temp files, dead registry entries etc.
*Storage tools - for formating and sorting out MiniSD cards - WM5 can't even format a bloody memory card!
*Wififofum - for finding WiFi networks (more for fun than anything).
*OMAPclock - for a bit of overclocking (more for fun again, i rarely feel the need is that great)
*And of course registry wizard for the good people of these forums
Thats about it really for me, but i am finding more cools things everyday to play with but those are my must have ones - i have had to install
A few must have games include, AOE, UFO, 3D pool and Soduko.
Personally i dont use a today plugin. I have not found one i like yet and most have icons etc that are to small on the MDA's small screen or just make clutter rather than really help me. A well organised start menu is enough for me.
Oh, and of course you can flash the ROM. But i have not done this yet. T-Mobiles version does not seem that bad but i hear the O2 version is a real dog and well worth doing. I just worry about lost Wifi and GPRS functionality i have heard about some people having.
Really wasn't expecting a reply so soon, and certainly not such a comprehensive one. Thanks for your time. I may be back with more questions once I actually get my mitts on a Wizard. Cheers!
yes I agree , it is great post, specially for new people like me, I got mine (Qtek 9100) just on Friday, and I am still figuring out its functions.
But I have question - if you have time to answer - I really don't know about WiFi function -which is in the device- , if I want to connect to the internet I should have a wireless router connected to my main PC, is that right ? I have read some of posts in here, that they can connect to the Internet - through their PPC - when they are outside or walking or traveling from area to another, by scanning for the nearby Connection, then they can use it to visit websites, does this cost money when they connect to the Internet using the WiFi ? And how can I do the same if it doesn't cost m money ? Can the "WiFi Fofum" program do this o is it only to scan any available connection nearby ? How can I connect to the internet (through WiFi) when this programm finds connection? And if it is really totally free..
I know this are bunch o Questions But I really want to use this function - if possible - specially that I work outside my city and I have to spend couple of hours travelling almost everyday. I appreciate any comment.
Wireless router at home if you want to use it wirelessly or if you do what I do now and then..... connect via the USB cable to your PC. Out and about you can connect for free if someone has a wireless network within range that has no WEP security enabled
There are wireless spots around the country but you have to pay for the main ones via an account you have to set up (kind of pay as you go) Cloud is one company that runs WiFi hotspots on a PAYG basis.
If you leave your WIFI scanning it will tell you if you are within range of a network, it will also tell you if it is secured or not, if it isn't then 9/10 you can just connect and use it
I have been meaning to make a post just like the OP. You are on the mark, IMO! This situation really begs the question, how can this thing be so feeble out of the box?
Thank you XDA and all of the kind people on this forum. You have been the best!
Thomas1234 said:
if I want to connect to the internet I should have a wireless router connected to my main PC, is that right ? I have read some of posts in here, that they can connect to the Internet - through their PPC - when they are outside or walking or traveling from area to another, by scanning for the nearby Connection, then they can use it to visit websites, does this cost money when they connect to the Internet using the WiFi ?
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In my case, my service provider (Cingular) offers a service called GPRS/EDGE, which lets the Wizard access the Internet through the cell phone connection.
I use the WiFi when I don't have a good connection. Most of the time, for browsing mini-websites and sending e-mails, there isn't much speed difference between WiFi and GPRS. I don't think the Wizard is fast enough to process more than a few 100 kbps of data.
If you don't want to (or can't) pay for a GPRS service, it's possible to "war drive" for access points. The Wizard will find them, although its WiFi reception isn't as powerful as a laptop's.
On my phone, if I enable WiFi, the phone will automatically use WiFi instead of GPRS when WiFi is available. If you don't want to pay GPRS charges, you might want to configure the phone so that it doesn't use GPRS.
can you explain 'wardriving' please? is it just freely using wifi points without paying? bit confused
Thanks
Jamie,
You are correct in your assumption !! You would be amazed at the number of 'unlocked' WiFi routers out there....
Ever tried running Bluetooth detection in a pub and seen how many phones are out there too ?
If you can find an unlocked WiFi router running DHCP - 'Fill your boots' !! Sometimes it's even possible to guess IP addresses of other PC's on the network, access em and leave a kindly note to thank them for their hospitality but warn them of their folly and the potential for disaster......I know I have but then that's me: Mr Altruism
Ok how can I get any internet connection through WiFi ? Should I just enable my WiFi and it'll scan for any available connection nearby ? I did but nothing happened, it wants from me to fill form which I really don't know anything about it... Or do I have to use a program to scan for connection ? And if yes, should my WiFi be enabled ? What is the best program for scaning ? I wish if someone explains me all that and how can start using WiFi to get a connection and an access to the internet but slowly, will be thankful.
Im new to all of this, but what can you do with the registry wizard and how do you install it? I foud a zip file for it, but cant get it to load.
Thanks!
i have a question too if you have the time mate,
I don't exactly want to use the edge since i dont have an unlimited plan or something.how can i delete these settings and do you think any problems will occur?(sending recieving mms)
basicly i don't it to connect to edge(gprs)auto.is there a way to fix this
thanks so much.

3g Web Browsing

Quick question when using pie to surf the net does it hang for a while on locating the web page or does it work instantly.
I have just got the Tytn and looking at web pages using 3g is really slow and really not very usable
I am using tmobile uk 3g network
after inputting a web address it hangs on locating for up to 60 seconds then loads the page very wuickly after that
Anyone any ideas
Thanks
Chris
Very strange. I dont have this problem. The first time a UMTS connection must be established and it is 5 or 6 seconds. The next request are very fast. May be you have established the DNS servers manually?
I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
how about using opera 8.6 http://opera.com
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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Is weird .... Im using unlimited internet T-Mobile NL (UMTS 3G) without any problem ... never freezing and the speed is very stable...
cheers
indra9110
adam_beasley said:
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
Absolutely agree with you as you have described precisely what my symptoms are.
Hopefully if enough people complain to T-Mobile about it, they might actually admit there is a problem and fix it.
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied....
It looks like Orange are operating a proxy or some other form of protection. A few weeks ago I discovered that they had something in place to restrict access to adult sites, wouldn't have bothered me other than the site I was trying to visit was xda-developers.com.
Even followed their link to get the site unblocked and got a nice little responce stating "Your request has been actioned and the content is confirmed as only suitable for customers over the age of 18." before getting their filtering disabled.
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StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
adam_beasley said:
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
Having been in a T-Mobile 3G area most of today (Loughborough, Leicestershire) the service itself has been as quick as ive ever used it, getting around 270k on a fairly medium signal.
The times it hasnt worked (long first time loading) it has returned to me with a server or IP error. I just assume that as web'n'walk is unlimited, but has restrictions on use, that the servers are overloaded trying to monitor or prevent certain services working.
Its been picking up a bit lately tho, im suffering the waiting times less and less each time I try. Tho 3G UMTS has really sucked the life out of my battery today, it may be best I keep it on 2G instead.
Haven't noticed any of these problems on T-Mobile in and around London. Have you all removed your "Content Lock"?
As mentioned earlier by Taz69, connection may be slowed down by the T-Mobile servers checking to see if you're 'allowed' to visit various sites?
I disabled my content lock ages ago using 'My T-Mobile' on www.t-mobile.co.uk - give it a go if you haven't already, it may make a difference?
My content is unlocked and always has been so it isn't that umfortunately.
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I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
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So, Im not the only one :roll: Do you get the problem where it can take 30+ secs to switch between GRPS and 3G too?
Also, I spoke to T-Mobile about slow speeds and lack of connetivity - I can hardly get a signal in my office, although I am sat across road from a T-Mobile mast!!!
They said that as the mast across road was congested, my device was connecting via a mast further away (I like the idea of it not trying to get on a congested mast, but distance causes problems with connectivity too :roll: )
Other thing they pointed out was, if you call them with the postcode that has the problem, it gets logged...enough logs and they escalate it (I'm up to 6 logs in my postcode now lol)
How can I tell if it's switching? Mine says "Connected (GPRS, 3G)"
Since (re)removing the lock it does seem significantly faster though
If your connected via standard GPRS then the connected logo at the top of the screen will have a G on it, if your connected via 3G GPRS then it changes to a U (for UTMS).
Ive always had a delay swapping between the 2, yesterday my 3G signal kept dropping so it would switch back to 2G, and it kept doing this so much I couldnt get any internet for about 5 mins. I know you can turn the UMTS band off, but this makes buying a 3G phone pointless.
I have content lock off since day one, and its always been fast. Today theres been bo problems with the service at all, fast logon, good speed connections etc.
Seems a random thing lately, but its only been lately. Its been fine for a few months before, so hopefully its somthing there working on and it slowly getting sorted.
The problems could be down to the pay and go users Web and talk, for a max of £1 per day they get unlimited internet, see t-mobile for more info, this could be eating servers bandwith within certain areas, i was able to logon this morning, but after 9am i keep getting page cannot be found errors, The little u and the 2 arrows show me I'm conneted but i cant load any pages, I hope this is the case and t-mobile sort this out asap
I have had the same problem now for around a month. I am using Opera 8.60 and it takes around 1 minute to actually resolve the host name. Sites with adverts on take forever. I contacted T-Mobile and they said that the signal in my area is really good and there shouldn't be a problem. They told me to take the sim card out, wait 30 seconds and then reinsert it, and then try.
I have not yet had any luck, and it seems to be the same throughout the country, as I was in Cornwall over the weekend on holiday and it was just as bad.
P.S. I am in Liverpool, and I have a full 5 bar umts signal.

VOIP while visiting Orlando?

Am due to go on vacation to Orlando from the UK Oct 21st, and thought I might see about using my T-Mobile Vario (aka Wizard) to make VOIP calls home to family.
got me thinking, Orlando is a popular destination so wonder if the good folks here had been there to do this with this phone.
So, if anyone out there has done this then please let me know how you got on, was it easy to do, could you get WIFI access OK in "tourist" places etc. etc.
I am a newbie at this, have Skype account so colud put some money into Skype Out, but thought would ask here first for possible better ways.
I think pocket skype, overclocking and a free wifi access point will be your best bet.
I use pocket Skype with Omapclock set to 240 mhz. With a decent wifi signal it works very well in my experience.
There are many businesses that offer free wifi access - Restaraunts such as IHOP and Panera Bread as well as many smaller mom and pop eateries.
Of course there are the hotels that almost always offer free wifi for those who stay there as well as anyone in the parking lot
If you are visiting Disney while in Orlando you might want to check out this information:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/Resorts/wireless.htm
I wouldn't worry about running out of wifi if that is your concern.
Good luck and have a safe trip!
take a look at my site i got working voipcheap on the mda vario perfectly with wireless and it is documented how to do it.
but voipcheap now charge 1p a min as it used to be free before :evil:
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take a look at my site i got working voipcheap on the mda vario perfectly with wireless and it is documented how to do it.
but voipcheap now charge 1p a min as it used to be free before :evil:
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Try Voipstunt.com. It is still free to certain countries

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