Is the rom size of xda2 64mb and ram of 128mb?
My device information/hardware shows 128mb of ram and ony 32mb of flah size.
Why is that happen? I thought is a 64 rom machine...
thanks
Hi , i just got a new XDA IIi , but it has only 64MB Flash size, the new one was supoused to have 128MB flash ,I saw it on the O 2 web site, then why my device is only showing half of it?
Woud this slow down my device, is there any way to fix this??
Help me please i am very confused
sincerely:
Jorge
Xda IIi
There is nothing to fix Bro. Please refer to screenshot.
The Xda series have always needed tweaking and modifying so the performance and stability depends on the owners' effort.
It sucks but hey, we are still buying them anyway.
i mentioned this in another thread, but does it make sense that because it says there is 59.68MB free in the flash storage, the rest of the rom is stored in the other 70MB odd that is missing to make up the 128mb? i would assume the whole rom installed saved in just 6mb to make up 64mb if you get what i mean?
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the total flash size is 128 mb or 64mb
the available flash space (storage) is 59.68mb
this leaves about 70mb (128 - 59.68) for the rom if the total flash size is 128,
or leaves about 5mb (64 - 59.68) for the rom if the total flash size is 64mb.
and i just cant imagine the whole rom fitting on to only 5mb..
i jsut checked my friend's mini, which definitely has 64mb of flash, and his storage free is only 7mb, so his rom is about 57mb, which confirms my theory (assuming i'm right about rom and storage size adding up to give the total flash memory size)
What does ROM and RAM means related to the HTC TyTn ?
HTC TyTn ROM = 128 MB
HTC TyTn RAM = 64 MB
When you install application to the "Storage Memory", where will it be installed ? in the RAM ?
What are installed in the ROM ?
Where the default application from the provider (e.g. T-Mobile) are installed ?
Thanks!
gogol said:
What does ROM and RAM means related to the HTC TyTn ?
HTC TyTn ROM = 128 MB
HTC TyTn RAM = 64 MB
When you install application to the "Storage Memory", where will it be installed ? in the RAM ?
What are installed in the ROM ?
Where the default application from the provider (e.g. T-Mobile) are installed ?
Thanks!
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The 128 MB of Flash ROM is broken into two parts:
- 64 MB for "Storage" (think hard disk space)
- 64 MB for "Program" execution (also called "RAM")
Programs reside in storage until they are activated (at which point they are also loaded into RAM). The amount of RAM you have available is what's left after loading the OS.
The carrier apps are also stored in ROM/RAM.
RAM is used to run applications. Its content gets lost on power off.
ROM (Flash RAM indeed) is used to store firmware, to install user applications and to keep data. Its content is kept even without power. "Extended ROM" is also a part of 128MB "ROM".
As I understand, HTC TyTN has NAND flash, and so no XIP and PagePool consumes a lot of RAM, though making things to run faster.
A good reading for beginners is here and here.
I don't like the tendency to call flash memory that is writeable as "ROM" (=Read-Only Memory). IMHO it provides a lot of confusions.
Very good explanation Lurker0, and both articles are worth reading for anyone!
hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why
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hi on the standard ROM my deice has a total of 120MB program memory but with all of those roms the total memory drops down to 84.71MB in use 47.64 does any one know why
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A ****load of apps within manila
itje said:
A ****load of apps within manila
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yeah i get that but the total RAM should be 120MB it is only 84.71
perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea?
Im gonna pretend I did not see this post
im off..cheers
(no offence my friend)
itje said:
perhaps learning more about what you are reporting could be an idea?
Im gonna pretend I did not see this post
im off..cheers
(no offence my friend)
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well fair enough but maybe u can explain it cause if u got a computer with a total of 120 MB RAM it will always have 120MB ram just becuse apps are using the ram does not decrease the amount of ram your computer has just the amount of memory that is free.
My device has 120 MB of program RAM and with lots of apps runnign i should still have 120MB RAM but i would have a lot less free. As it stand my polaris thinks it only has 87.4 MB of ram of witch 37% is free. Instead 120MB with 37% free
Honestly, I don't understand this either. I haven't tested, but if you install Manila on a ROM that didn't have it cooked in, I doubt the total memory would drop down.
I could only think this is a side effect of the video drivers (meaning the hidden memory is dedicated to the drivers which I'd understand), the other is that it's a bug that hasn't been properly explained/been looked over for some reason.
I'm no expert at ROM cooking by any means, but it definitely looks weird to me.
ahwell...
you have theese 2 in your settings/memory: Storage & Program
compare the official rom, with cooked rom, both storage and programs
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forgot to mention, check out your settings/device information hardware tab.
and.... please report your findings here
dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this
Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB
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dude i clicked start>settings>memory and it looks like this
Storage | Program
Total: 121.29 MB | Total: 84.71 MB
In use: 19.97 MB | In Use: 56.38 MB
Free 101.32 MB | Free: 28.33 MB
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Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.
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Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
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Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.
Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom
1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile .
2. in the latest official rom, and many other recent cooked roms, I could not run IGO8 (HDD version), which is the best GPS program I have for the country that I am in. And IGO8 needs a lot of memory to run -> reason for me to upgrade from Trinity.
And the worst news is, I tried so many pagepool editor (many versions etc), none seem to be working to bring up my program memory from 84.7MB
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Well, I think most of us (more often the case) knows about the pagepool settings. Just did not understand why the 32MB pagepool is chosen (in standard rom and most cooked roms) which anyhow do not give much performance adge.(
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You are right, most of us should know about pagepool. But apparently the thread starter didn't know it thats why I was explaining it once again.
BTW: I downloaded Syrius R1 from UDK, its using 6 MB pagepool, same as HTC stock rom. But maybe OM-BY's pagepool changer can not handle polaris roms and shows an incorrect pagepool size.
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Because of 2 main reasons, I went to use Bepe 0.67 cooked rom
1. it's using 12MB pagepool, that means I get 101.46MB program memory, currently disabled BioTouch.exe and loaded in the Manila2D myself, get to obtain free memory of 62MB. Fresh restart I get about 69MB free memory. All programs seems to be running smoother. I can use the phone for many days without the need to restart, though it's a common thing for WinMobile .
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62 MB free Ram with Manila is great, maybe I should try Bepes Rom
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Itje told you already: check settings/device information.
The memory information is different from Rom to Rom and from language to language. My stock HTC german WM 6.0 Rom is reporting under "program memory" 100,77 MB, but under "settings - system - device info - hardware" its 128 MB Ram.
The difference is caused by drivers, the pagepool and other things. The more pagepool a rom is having the less total memory you will see. That means the polaris is having 128 MB Ram. But if the Rom is having 28 MB pagepool you will see in memory - program memory only a total of 100 MB. If you want to know details about pagepool please use search. You will find either in upgrading or in development some more details about the pagepool.
I checked now the new HTC 6.1 german Rom, the pagepool is 6 MB according to OM-BYs pagepool changer. As I did not flash it until now I have no idea about the total program memory, but I'm sure its not more than 100 MB because drivers are also needing RAM.
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thank you that is what i was after an explaination
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thank you that is what i was after an explaination
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I think for Polaris, 6MB pagepool means you will have 107MB program memory.
My Bepe 0.67 rom has 12MB pagepool and I get 101MB program memory. I really don't know where other missing memory goes, taking 128MB-12-?? = 101MB.
So it seems the reader you used to chk pagepool produced wrong information. That was what happen when I tried to use pagepool editor to reduce pagepool size.
But the program work fine on Trinity cooked rom.
guys,
i use M-Amine 2.0 RTM
and with alot of apps running, i have 37MB memory left
but honestly, i dont feel any different wether its 69MB or 37MB
in fact, i dont pay much attention on free memory and i dont realize that my program memory dropped to 84MB
maybe i'm just too exited with flashing new ROMs
I saw my version of Igo8 wouldn't launch if there is less than 45Mo Program memory left. But it launches even with .Net CEFramework V3.5 if it has 48-50 Mo left.
I guess the new build of Igo8 takes less RAM so it could be launched without desactivating M2D in today screen.
I use M-Amine 2.0 RTM.
Maybe Tabs removing in M2D could help freeing some ram too.
i have a phone called Vsun smart and i want to root it abd install paranoid android 6 rom and i don't find any way to do
that .. please anyone can help me ;(
this is my phone specification :
Card Slot: microSD, up to 32 GB
Internal: 8 GB /1 GB RAM
Memory Size: 8
Operating System: Android 4.4.2,KitKat
Battery type: Battery capacity (mAh): 2000 mAh
Storage Capacity: 8 GB
Dimensions: 154 x 7.2 x 76.8 Millimeter
Product Weight: 135 Gram
Processor Type: Quad Core 1.2GHz
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How do you expect to install a ROM on it that doesn't support that device?
In order for a ROM to work, it has to support the device. If the device isn't supported, there is no way to install it unless you learn how to build it and it sounds like you have no clue where to begin with that.