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Advise on Headsets

it's highly possible that this topic i'm posting has been discussed before and i do apologize in advance for bringing it up. but i do need some tips...
i need advise on which bluetooth headset to buy. i'm presently using jabra but i'm starting to get annoyed with the bonding-rebonding issues. if you noticed; once you shut down the headset (for charging or otherwise) or the bluetooth profile in the xda you have to go through the process of rebonding. the same holds when you use activesync; the bonding is lost.
with that; i'm in the process of buying a new headset and i'm after one that doesn't have the rebonding issues; regardless if you turn it off or activesync or whatever. did some research and so far have come across the following headsets. anyone using any of them; could you please give me some feedback if these indeed work properly with the xda2 AND does not have any rebonding issues. the present rom upgrades doesn't seem to address this issue...not that i'm not ungrateful or anything ..
bluetrek
plantronics
sony-ericsson hbh
c-tech
02 headset
motorola
nokia
sorry; don't have the model numbers; any feedback would be appreciated and if you have other headsets in mind do let me know.
cheers mates
robson

Hi Robson,
I've had a Blutrek G2 BT headset for about 3 weeks now without any problems at all. I can't really compare it to any of the other headsets as it is the first one I have owned. The main reason I got it was the fact that it was very cheap (£38) and that its supposed to be the lightest headset you can buy. It looks pretty smart too!
As for battery life, I've charged it once since I'va had it (excluding initial out-of-box charge).
Thats my recommendation, mate

Oops, that price should have read £38.

hey munkee,
thanks, and to be honest i was considering bluetrek because it does indeed look smart. have a mate who can get one for me and i just needed some more info on it. did some web browsing and it looks to be tops. like i said i use jabra; quality is good but the bonding issue is starting to be a pain in the arse.
cheers then
robson

Help possible exec bluetooth static issues!

Please help, i am runng out of my 14 day return period with o2 (Monday) i am experiencing static with my new jabra bt250 headset. Is this a rom problem as with the orange m2000 or do you think it could be the headset. i was led to believe that all of the static problems with new htc devices were fixed. i need to know as if i have a faulty exec i need to get it replaced quick. many thanks david

I have the same problem with a Bluespoon AX.
If the two are on different sides of my body, static is unbearable.

atekant said:
I have the same problem with a Bluespoon AX.
If the two are on different sides of my body, static is unbearable.
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:shock: I have bought an AX, I've never made a call on my MDA Pro to date, and my mobile number is being transferred onto t-mob (and my MDA Pro) this Monday.
Can you explain a bit more so I can not look a complete tit at work please?

I've also tried with the Bluespoon AX and couldn't use it. I sold it to a friend who has a Motorola V3 because it worked fine with his phone.
I bought an (expensive) Plantronics Discovery 640 replacement and it's a little better, but still not great. Also concerned that the problem lies with the XDA Exec and wondering whether to take it back before my 14 days are over...

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 09:11
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I know this sound very stupid but please try it!
Turn your universal onto it's other end! I have found that when it is in my pocket I place it with the stylus to the top..I get static using my Blue G2. When I turn the universal on it's other end, I don't get static.. Weird huh?
Also, I find that putting it in my back trouser pocket gives me more statid than in my chest pocket...
Has anybody else founf this??
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It seems to be an issue with the exec, reading around lots have encountered this problem. I'm sure they'll sort it out in the first official rom upgrade

I'm sure you're right. I just hope it's not a problem with the hardware. Anyway, I've tried my 3rd headset now - it's the Bluetrek G2 (only supports bluetooth 1.1) and it's the best by some margin. Nice, because it's a lot cheaper than the other two.
Could it be a problem with bluetooth 1.2?

it might be the positioning of the BT receiver in the exec, dont forget BT is 10M in open air not encased in an exec between a metal battery and a metal backed display screen (see image of taken apart exec in other thread )and through your body too

I was using PDA2K before using the Jasjar, and I can say that the BT performance is far better than the PDA2K but this does not mean that it's perfectd.... it really needs to be improved.
I have also to say that not all types of BT headsets work fine with Universal, I knew from some of my friends using the same device that Motorola family is not working fine with universal.
I used to have a sony ericson BT headset when I was using the PDA2K and used it with my Jasjar for two days also, but I suffered from the short battery life of the sony erricson BT headset so I changed it with Jabra BT 800 and it works far better than sony erricson and I can say it's very reliable with the device.
What I want to say here is that the reception quality via BT headsets varry according to the type of the BT headset.
Moreover, the performance of the BT in universal needs to be improved and they have to consider this issue in their new ROM upgrade.
Regards,

Bluetooth Headsetss

Right, Universal users...I'm after a Bluetooth Headset.
If you wouldn't mind, simply state what headset you use with your universal, how far away you can use it before it is crap, how comfortable it is (I have small ears), and should I buy one..
Looking at the BT800, JX10 or HBH 660 at the moment, but any considered...
Begin!!

I use a cheap o2 brand blue tooth headset, came free with my universal, quality is fine, I never used an expensive one, so cannot comment on the quality to one of those. but I can use it within 10 meters when fully charged, when uncharged for a few days, it looses the range.
all in all, cheap is good, spending lots of money is better, but they all do pretty much the same, so don't spend too much, oh and it works with voice dial and can pair up to 5 devices.....

Universal owners should try Nokia HS12 W :lol:

I use a Jabra BT 800. Its only ok really. Quite chunky and doesnt exactly hug the ear, so dont go jogging with it in.
Reception is ok but I have to hold the universal rather than leaving it in my pocket otherwise it goes all crackly.
A good point to note is that the BT 800 was quite expensive. Im on my 3rd headsest (previous was belkin and an o2 one, belkin was crap, o2 was ok) as they always fall off and break. If i was to buy again i would pay a tenner and leave it at that.
Hope that helps
HPJ

I use the HBH660 & have no problems with it fits well to the ear & is quite strong droped it several times no damage.
Regards
Colin Bate

Couldn't get any to work with mine correctly.
Tried both a motorola H3 and a Jabra. Both were flakey when trying to initiate a voice call using the voice recog software.
Sometimes they would work with one press, othertimes two. I never knew if it had worked or not. So took it back.
/Mad

Got an I-tech connect 'clip' model, doesn't look ridiculous thanks to the standard earbud, but obviously not as compact as the 'all in one' models. Works fine with the Universal, meaning just as well but not better as it did on my two previous phones.

Motorola HS850
small, good, cheap, long talk time, works with voice dial.

How good (or bad) is the Trinity

OK I see that some of you already got the device. My wife wants to replace her Nokia N80 for the white version. Now I previously had an Orange SPV M3100 (HTC Hermes) & had no end of problems with that sold it & now happily using an Asus P525. So how about the the Trinity.
-Is it stable?
-Does A2DP & AVCRP work properly as in having proper stereo output?
-Does the A2DP reconnect automatically to WMP after receiving a call (the -Hermes never did, had to restart everything).
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
Fill me in guys. Thanks

Is it stable?
I don't feel it's very stable when coming to the phone part. If I've used the device for a while, I often have to hard-reboot it for the phone part to work again(it just stands "calling", and nothing happends)
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
The WiFI reception on my phone is very good. I've actually managed to connect to hot-spots which my laptop didn't manage to connect... *me like*
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
In Norway you get the official firmware updates/rom from the local distributor.(Dangaard and Brightpoint)

What about other features, like those related to the cameras?
How is visiophony with the front camera?
How is the picture quality of the back camera? Most of the reviews are made with good light conditions. What about the pictures in low light condition?
Movies? Are they correct?
Battery life with that 400 MHz processor compared to Prophet?
Could anyone post pictures/movies made with Trinity?

The wifes P3600 arrived this morning. Been playing with it all for a while & here's my 1st impressions.
Good
Looks nice & shiny
Small size
Excellent loud clear external speaker
Nice & responsive
Phone reception & general operation is fine
3G works well
Bad
Shiny surface = fingerprint magnet
MS bluetooth stack, better than before but still lacking
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
Also when disconnectd from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect.
In summary if you used previous HTC devices before then you'll be familiar with this one. When used as a pda & phone it does most things as expected, the menus & general operation are same as before.
But its going back, one of the main reasons being the crap A2DP. Wifey uses music player a lot on her 1 hour daily commute & the fact that sound quality is rubbish (low volume & no stereo) & no option to connect a wired headphones as theres no headphone jack. The same problem as the Hermes in that once disconnected from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect. Have to go into Bluetooth manger to re establish the connection.
Also comparing it to my Asus P525 other than the smaller size, 3G, louder external speaker & looks a bit nicer, in all other depts the Asus is as good & some areas much much better.

Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*

neofix said:
Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
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2 to 7 second delay? It sounds like a ROM upgrade will probably be coming to fix these issues...same story different cover.

zen123 said:
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
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This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.

I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine

anonimo said:
This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.
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Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that? Only the hardcore users frequent forums such as this & get to learn a lot about their devices. Assuming it can be done then why didn't HTC enable it in the first place? Mention a registry hack to the vast majority of users out there & I'm pretty sure you'll be met with a lot of blank expressions & ??????
With the aesthetic design of the trinity I think HTC are trying to market it to more mainstream audience, thats why my wife likes the look of it, but in all honesty how many of these new users will know how to exploit the device to the full. My wife never visits these forums & even her 8 month old Nokia N80 is still out of the box stock.

zen123 said:
Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that?
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I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?

anonimo said:
I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?
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Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.

The only dislike on my new P3600 is the position of penon the bottom! . I've used many pda, and the pen was on top! But for the rest I love it!!!!

zen123 said:
Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.
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You are right the stereo bluetooth output is not stereo. This is ridiculous. I hope this can be fixed with some registry hacking otherwise HTC has really screwed this device big time.

One more thing, the smooth black coating is comming of from the bottom where the stylus is placed.... That's s REAL bad thing, since this will eventually tear up more and more of the coating... And I've only had it for two weeks

default A2DP registry settings for Trinity is:
UseJointStereo = 1
please change to:
UseJointStereo = 0
that will fix the "mono sound" issue.

Question
So far what i read, the software for this phone 3600 is not fully stable,
Camera still delay..
Some bugs
additional question following,
Delay of standard programs opening?
How about the sounds quality (loudness and clearness) is it very good?
which one is really better if compare 3600 and 3300(GPS enabled), which should i buy... -_-"
Thank you in advance..

fantastic device
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...

saminegm said:
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...
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Did you try these (manual entry and cab for Vodafone):
https://shop.dangaard.de/files/Qtek/Qtek.htm
Tytn and Trinity 3G/UMTS should be the same

So far...the trinity is my new favorite thing..very stable (have had to soft reset twice to get the Wifi signal running after a sync while wifi was on) and lots of fun. Phone is great and signal with one bar or less is still usable - where my old motorola was no good with a weak signal...and i can now make and take calls from my office - where previously there was no chance with the motorola. This device does everything I bought it for -combine my PDA and phone into one device...

where to buy
DaveUK said:
I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine
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Can you please said where did you buy the miniSD? Thanks

Getting the Dell BH200 BT to work w/ the Fuze

I just recently acquired a stereo bluetooth headset from dell model number BH200 and so far the stereo music quality is superb, but the moment a call comes in or I pick up a call it immediately disconnects itself. My question would be if any of you guys have any experience with this issue. the Stereo bluetooth and handsfree profile are both set to active. Any suggestions or hints?

I'm going to go on a limb here and assume that you guys haven't had access to the aforementioned bluetooth and i'm short out of luck here... right?
p.s. SAY IT AINT SO!!!!

Hi, I also have the same headphones and the same problem - only on HTC Universal flashed with WM6.
I search a bit on Google and it seems that the problem is with MS Bluetooth stack - it was working correctly for WM5 (but no A2DP), now in WM6 A2DP works, but handsfree does not.
Right now I'm testing alternative BT stacks - started with UniBT (it's Broadcomm stack modified for Universal) - now A2DP works flawlessly (before that, it didn't), but handsfree/headphones mode does not. At least trying to receive the phone call doesn't turn the headphones off.

i tested my fuze with a jabra bt2010 and it works fine. I'd prefer to not carry 2 bluetooth devices so i'm trying to find a way for it to work. I've been suggested to use a widcomm bluetooth stack as well but i dont know how to change my stack. If anyone here does know how to do it, please do enlighten us.

It's been nearly a month so I'm going to bump this thread in hopes of someone might possibly have some insight into this.

Push/bump.
I got the S9 now, it works for both functions but craps out completely when i'm outside, really bad signal reception as well as "muffled sounds" according to my audiophilic and audiophobic friends.
I think it has to be something to do with the actual firmware inside the bh200 that is wreaking some unknown havoc.

Dell bluetooth headset BH200 not working with Sony Xperia X1i
I have a Dell Bluetooth headset model BH200 and in A2DP mode, works flawless but the moment it is used with handsfree mode for call, the connection is broken and the headset switches off itself. This headset works very well with other non WM6.1 devices. Any clues with anony one what should be done in this case, some people have suggested JETware Hands-free Extension , any one tried on this.

I actually gave up on the bh200 and got myself a jabra bt8010. it works like a charm and the sound is just as good as the bh200

Indeed... i used to have a WM device (Mio A501) and I had the WM6.1 Pro..
I bought this BT at that time and it didn't work on WM6.1 (it even didn't asked me the PIN to pair it) but, when I tried with WM5.0, everything worked great, great sound on call's music, etc.. now I have a Sapphire and I'm not able to make calls on it (music works), but since I'm not driving and people used to look like "what a crazy guy speaking in English alone, no cables, it must be a mp3 or something.. hmmm" when I was on a call, it doesn't make a huge difference

i have yet to try this on wm6.5 but I highly doubt there would be a change..i'll give an update when I do charge up the bh200

i charged the bh200 up completely and tested it out.. it was a failure.. looks like 6.5 did not do anything to help...
Maybe windows mobile 7 will work.......... maybe.

You can use BH200 on call by this way only(I tested)
1. Turn on BT
2. Accepted call(However just Turn on your BT after accept call is OK)
3. Turn on BH200
4. Pair ur PDA w/ BH200
5. Done

IS this thead still active? I have a solution
Guys..
Use Reg edit and make the following modifications in your WM device by creating a new DWORD value 0 with the parameter UseESCO. Check out the path
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\UseESCO = DWORD:0 (Dont use space between UseESCO)
Then restart the phone and delete any previous BT devices on your phone, start up the paining process and get it to work.
worked flawlessly on my Dell BH200
Thanks,
Raj.

seriously????
the fix is in one freaking registry tweak????
I'll have to wait 2 months before i can test this since i left the damn thing to rot in the US while i'm here in thailand..-_-

mputtr said:
seriously????
the fix is in one freaking registry tweak????
I'll have to wait 2 months before i can test this since i left the damn thing to rot in the US while i'm here in thailand..-_-
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Of course Bro. I waited for 6 months myself too.. and finally found it in a microsoft forum.. well at last got it to work and my 200 sounds better than ever with its new functionality..
All the best
Raj

sweet! thanks a bunch man!

prudviraj said:
Of course Bro. I waited for 6 months myself too.. and finally found it in a microsoft forum.. well at last got it to work and my 200 sounds better than ever with its new functionality..
All the best
Raj
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Heya, Finally got back ot he US and tested out the BH200 with the fix you mentioned. it works!!!!!
although, i'm wondering if you're having problems with the bh200 not wanting to connect to the phone automatically.

Need help for the same problem in android
I am having similar issues on my Nexus one. Dell BH200 works for music playback but stops functioning when a call is made or received. Even the connection between the phone & BH200 gets lost.
I would be really glad to get some help on this.