Belkin's BT GPS (Fortuna Clipon) - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

I have a BIG install problem with XDA II vs Belkin's Bluetooth GPS.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Product_Id=164017
After installement I can not get it working.
I tried Belkin Navigation but also Tom Tom Navigation software.
Once I want to configure the com5 port XDA freezes, and I have to do a hard reset.
the XDAII specs
rom version 2.02.t1WWE
rom date 05/17/04
radio version 1.18.00
Protocol version; 1337.38
ExtROM version; n.a.
FYI;
also with the old specs;
rom version 1.60.00wwe
12/03/03
radio version 1.08.00
protecol ver; 1337.18
Extrom 1.60.44
it also freezes..
Anyone any clue??

I have the XDA II and the fortuna clp on and Tomtom Nav 3. All have worked flawlessly since I bought it a few months back.
The way I set the lot up was to:
Pair the device first.
Goto Start>Settings>System>GPS>GPS
Select NMEA 0183v2 38400
Select Bluetooth GPS Device
And then tick the blue box.
If the GPS has a a lock, with any luck you'll have location co-ordinates, then close the gps setting screen and fire up TomTom.
My friend recently lost the ability to connect to his Clip-On, and it mean full uninstall of TomTom and Unpair and deletion of the device from the bluetooth manager, and reinstall. That worked.
Let us know how you get on. On my XDA IIs I have it set to Bluetooth device on Com 6.

Txs
I will chck and let you know.

slicksurf said:
I have the XDA II and the fortuna clp on and Tomtom Nav 3. All have worked flawlessly since I bought it a few months back.
The way I set the lot up was to:
Pair the device first.
Goto Start>Settings>System>GPS>GPS
Select NMEA 0183v2 38400
Select Bluetooth GPS Device
And then tick the blue box.
If the GPS has a a lock, with any luck you'll have location co-ordinates, then close the gps setting screen and fire up TomTom.
My friend recently lost the ability to connect to his Clip-On, and it mean full uninstall of TomTom and Unpair and deletion of the device from the bluetooth manager, and reinstall. That worked.
Let us know how you get on. On my XDA IIs I have it set to Bluetooth device on Com 6.
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SuperB man, it works!
Txs!

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Fortuna GPS & updated rom

My blue tooth fortuna clip on will not respond to the XDAII with the updated rom, which suports serial ports. has anyone else had this problem, do I need to down load the BT tools patch again & if so can some one remind me of the web address
Ta
HI i have the GPSmart BT verision
and i have alos updated the ROm on my XDA II
all i can say is it works very very well i did have a delay when using
TOMTOM and that has now gone
Hope this help you out
I am also using the BT GPS Clip-on with the XDA II. Works perfectly after the O2 update. I'm using Tomtom 2 with the 2.09 GPS update from their website. Im not using it with the com port option, I'm using it as a Tomtom BT device.
Foruna clip on problems
I still can't get the tom tom gps driver to recognise / show information from the Clip on BT gps. I downloaded the latest driver from the tom tom site but still no luck. tom tom's gps drivers do not show the fortuna clip on. I have tried rebonding it with and without the serial port option. When I'm in the tom tom GPS page what GPS driver do I need and what com port do I select and do I need to set it up as com port 5 when I bond the gps????????
Well if you have the rom upgrade installed and you are using V 2.09 of the TOMTOM GPS drivers you can select
the device a TOMTOM Wireless GPS
and set the com port bit to Bluetooth GPS
I use this setup and have never had a problem
Hope this helps
I tried that but no luck, it would not show any satelite info on the gps pages. I notice in the blue tooth settings you can select com ports 4 & 5 for recieving and transmitting , what should these be set to? also when you bonded the fortuna, did you select the serial port option ?
Ta :x
Hi
It souds like you dont have the latest ver of the gps drivers fromtomtom installed
on V2.08 there was no mention of Bluetooth so i think you have that ver installed
And yes when i bonded with the GPSMART it asks me if i want to use the serial profile
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you
pjcltd said:
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you
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Please do :lol:
OK here is the GPS Drives as from the TOMTOM website
pjcltd said:
And yes when i bonded with the GPSMART it asks me if i want to use the serial profile
Do you have ver 2.09 ? if not i can post it on here for you
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sundownerspars said:
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 20:38
I tried that but no luck, it would not show any satelite info on the gps pages.
what should these be set to? also when you bonded the fortuna, did you select the serial port option ?
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I too have same problem - have 2.09 gps but now not getting info, it bonds ok, but won't display any tracked sats, do i need to say yes to serial when bonding?
Yes you must say to to it or it will not work
(that is if you have the updated Rom installed)
pjcltd said:
Yes you must say to to it or it will not work
(that is if you have the updated Rom installed)
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All working now :lol:
now the back light drops out
I have tried reloading the ROM upgrade and reloading the Tom tom 2 software and latest drivers from the Tom Tom site (ver2.09GPS driver)
I still am having problems with the fortuna GPS. In tom Tom GPS it does not show any satelites and the little sat dish to PDA legends on the right hand side show no communication
Now the Back light drops out without warning and when I check the back light settings it has reverted to no back light on the battery power! (yes the battery is fully charged) and I keep getting a communication error popping up saying (cannot start communications with desk top computer" and the XDA 2 is not even in it's cradle
HELP!!!
I'm tempted to send it back to O2 for them to sort it out. :evil:
I have used fortuna gpsmart with xda2 with standard rom and had no problems, is it possible for you to download the launchrom from the O2 site and see if that will get you back where you started. You could also try unbonding everything then after loading the latest bthtools rebond and try that.
It worked fine with the original ROM & BT tools patch. I cant find the original rom on O2's site. May be I downloaded a corupt version even though it said updated ok? It took so long to down load on a dial up connection ( Damn XP at work on a broad band connection wont let any one apart from the administrator download programs!!!)
Do O2 send out discs with the rom update on them?
Also just noticed, when I try to turn it off on the power button all that happens is that the backlight turns off and the isplay is still there allbeit very faint. Still at least my BT200 works now!
I had the same problem for a few days after I got the Fortuna, but all went OK, not sure how I did it really, just kept, trying
I wonder if anyone can help me with a problem, sometimes I want to start TomTom2 with no GPS, just to do a quick route for someone, but when I start it, it locks up (presumably cause it cant find Bluetooth), I cant go into the GPS app to turn GPS off with the tick. The only way I can do it is turn on the Fortuna, THEN untick in the GPS app - very messy. Is there anyway to start TomTom without GPS/Bluetooth active?

XDAII + TomTom2 + BT GPS = Slow?

I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?
WiZeR said:
I just purchased the Fortuna Clip_On Bluetooth Reciever for my XDAII. First install went fine, I set it all up and used it walking home from the station. The TomTom software worked faultlessly and was quick to use. When I got home I closed TomTom, turned off the GPS and put the XDAII on the charger. In the morning I opened TomTom to setup a trip to France. When I opened TomTom it was VERY slow. It took about 8mins to open the application and navigating around the software was impossible. It did not crash or give me any errors it was just real slow. I uninstalled the application and reinstalled it. This seemed to solve the situation temporarily and off I set on my journey. After the first leg of my Journey I turned it off whilst on the Ferry. Next time I turned it on it was back to snails pace and so rendered it useless for the rest of my journey.
Any ideas whats going on? Is this a common problem?
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What type of card? sd/mmc?
what version xda roms
what other apps. e.g. GPRS mon is known to cause problems sometimes.
try tomtom 3, it's much faster / more reliable.
I'm using xda2(1.6) + sd +cf, tomtom 3.01 + fortuna gps without problems.
you need GPS driver version 2.09!!!
I had the same problem cause I was using driver version 2.00, then I moved to v2.09 and it worked perfectly.
Ciao :wink:
I tried last week TomTom3 + i-mate+ Royaltek BT GPS, I drove in the UK. Everything worked very good all the time.
I am using all the latest ROMS, with Bluetooth tools.
How can I check my BT driver version?
It is a 256 SD card (Viking Interworks)
Rom Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM Date: 12/03/03
Radio Version: 1.10.00
Protocol Version: 1.337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.60.50
Not much else is installed, I am using 1-calc and the check/clear notifications app. Thats it
Where do I get the updated GPS Driver?
give me your email via pvt msg and I will send to you, ok?
I tried to post it in the forum, but no way.....
its ok i found it on pocketgps. However it has not solved the problem. I installed the GPS update, cold booted and the same problem exists
Any other ideas?
what i do not understand is why it would work perfectly for about 2 hours then just slow right down like this.
Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
I repeat that I had the same identical problem as you have and I solved with 2.09 driver and the settings you see above...
good luck
oops, actually i just noticed its 2.07 i updated to.
How big is the 2.09 update?
I found the 2.09 update on the web, but its not solved anything
after the update it is still really slow
Have you set GPS connections to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I have these settings in v2.09 GPS and it work perfectly with fortuna clip-on...
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?????????????????? WHAT ABOUT YOUR SETTINGS ??????????????
GPS Connections? I'm not sure what you mean by this?
Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
I have it unticked at the moment as I am just trying to get it working properly. The PDA Slider is set to Zzz and sound is on.
Under TomTom GPS I have it set to:
SiRF 38400
COM5
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change to:
- TomTom Wireless GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
and see what happen... 99% you solve with this settings cause it was the same for me. TRY these settings, let fortuna and XDA2 communicate and that's it!
I don't want fortuna and xda2 to communicate. I want to be able to use create routes without the gps reciever connected. At the moment it takes about 5mins for TomTom to just launch.
i tried these settings and it is still slow, i timed 6mins to launch the application and a further 1min to open the menu.
what other apps?
Wizer,
What other apps do you have?
Have you tried hard reset + reinstall ? First backup with say sprite backup.
I think this is driver related. Uninstall tomtom then reinstall with the latest gps drivers, I am not sure you should be selecting sirf 38400 either.
i tried installing from clean install and i tried with the latest GPS drivers. Nothing solved it. In the end I have had to install tomtom3 which has strangely solved the problem for now. All I have to do now is find the Great Britain maps

Bluetooth Holux GR230/Tomtom 3

Why is it that the Holux driver does not appear in the Tomtom list of available drivers. Can't seem to install anything from the CD driver supplied with the GPS receiver. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
I got this from the tomtom website and posted it here a few weeks ago.
If you are thinking of buying TOMTOM 3 please read this from the TOMTOM website.
Compatibility
- Not compatible with Holux GPS Receiver
- Not compatible with Integral Compact Flash Cards
- Not compatible with CF Type II cards (Microdrives)
- Not compatible with TomTom II Maps
I got mine working with tomtom 2 by downloading bluetooth tools patch but havent tried it with tomtom 3.
I decided to give it a try. if you have the gps already bonded make sure you delete the bonding first. Download and install the latest bluetooth tools from here
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
Set bluetooth to discoverable mode, choose "new", it will find the gps, enter code, mine is 6268, when you ok it, bluetooth tools should pop up, I chose serial/com4. Once complete, make sure bluetooth mode is "on".
Go to tomtom, choose "gps", go to the lower box where you should now see your holux gps listed, choose this then tick the large box on the left. You should now have a working tomtom3 system despite what it says on the tomtom website about it not working. :shock:
cruisin-thru said:
Once complete, make sure bluetooth mode is "on".
Go to tomtom, choose "gps", go to the lower box where you should now see your holux gps listed, choose this then tick the large box on the left. You should now have a working tomtom3 system despite what it says on the tomtom website about it not working. :shock:
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howdy.
ive got myself a holux gr230 which of course isnt listed as a supported device, but once bonded its visible in the lower box, but it wont connect. what should i select in the upper box?
im also having probs with tomtom activation. it says its activated, but when i try to go into uk maps it just says that "this activation code is not valid for Great_Britain" but the majour roads of europe version seems to work fine. ne ideas?
Cheers.
Smiley
I am using the DCONNEX DC-230 BT GPS, which is in fact a rebadged Holux GR-230.
Flawlessly.
I use Rom 1,72 with native BT stack.
Just bond the GPS, say YES to questions on assigning a COM port
In TomTom select NMEA Bluetooth and COM5
Only issue is that TomTom alsmost hangs the MDAII when it cant find the GPS (ie. GPS off, BT off, GPS out of reach).
Still looking for a solution for that . . .
I have the same problem that TOMTOM hangs. This is very annonying as sometimes I would like to check the Map in TomTOm without having my Holux Mouse with me. I then have to use TomTom Wizard to uncheck the little box in gps setting and then change to simulator :?
Before I was using BluetoothTools and TomTOm worked also fine without a GPS Mouse for a Map, but Bluetooth Tools introduced a considerable lag (looking for bluetooth headset) of the XDA when taking a call, this was also very annoying as I use the XDA2 primarily as a phone, and the phone has to work perfect ....
Greetz
WELL I'M USING 1.60 ROM ON MY XDA 2, BT TOOLS, AND I BONDED ON COM 4...BUT ALL TOMTOM 3 SHOWS IN LOWER BOX IS:
COM 2,9bt ON COM 6, AND bt GPS.....
NOTHING OF THEM WORK...
PLEASE HELP ME...
@RDKAY:
Great to hear I am not the only one suffering from the TomTom hanging without GPS connected.
BTW: What ROM are you using?
I put bluetooth in discoverable mode, it finds the holux gps, it asks "do you want this device as a serial device" answer yes. Switch bluetooth to on, in tomtom, the top box reads tomtom wireless gps, the bottom box reads com 5, it works perfectly.
Im sure you all have latest opdate from tt..or? had the same problem activating major roads, opdate solved this problem..why use wizard changing gps? uncheck recieve all incoming beams in connections, go to programs/tomtom gps change gps to any serial gps..(not uncheking gives an error message: can not open com 1: port does not exits. rom 1.66.00).
Jensen
@edsub
I am using the Imate 1.72 Rom on my T-mobile mda2... don't think it is a rom issue although...
Im sure you all have latest opdate from tt..or?
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I think it might be true that updating TT would do things better but:
I have bought TT with maps for Germany, Austria and Switzerland. And I just needed a Spain Map also which you cannot buy individually (TT just told me to buy also the Westeuropean package... :evil: ) so I got the Spain Map from Emule. :twisted:
Now when I do the TT update the Spain map doesn't work anymore, so I cannot do the update....
.why use wizard changing gps?
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Because with opening directly TT Gps its hanging my mda2 completly, I have desactived incoming beams although :roll:
But anyway phone and TomTom work fine more or less, so "never change a running system" :wink:
Cheers
Rainer
Its looking more and more towards a rom issue.
People without the issue all have iMate roms
I have Qtek rom
What is your Rom build?
Mine
Version 1.72.00WWE
Date 03/15/04
Radio 1.14.00
Protocol 1337.24
ExtRom 1.72.901 (my own)

Tom Tom 3 Bluetooth

Hi Guy's
I'm getting a "GPS Disabled" on the fron screen when TOmTom3 loads, any ideas.
THX
If you have no GPS hardware connected, it's normal .
The case is probably what the text says: GPS disbled.
Solution: run TomTom Wizard or TomTom GPS.
In TomTom GPS select correct port (probably COM5 OR Bluetooth GPS) and type (try NMEA ....Bluetooth)
PLZ post results
makhan said:
Hi Guy's
I'm getting a "GPS Disabled" on the fron screen when TOmTom3 loads, any ideas.
THX
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What GPS do you have and have you configured TomTom to use it in the GPS Applet?
These are my settings on a QTEC 2020 (XDA2 clone) running Pocket PC 2003 Windows Mobile edition,
I have TomTom 3.03 Navigator and the TomTom bluetooth reciever.
The below presumes you have already Bonded the Bluetooth reciever, and your PDA mode is set to Discoverable before you start.
(See below for instructions if in doubt **)
Goto TomTom GPS (Start, Settings, System, GPS), click the GPS tab and the top box should read "TomTom Navigator GPS",
and the second box should read "Bluetooth GPS". Make sure you you click the box next to these settings to complete, a tick is added.
Please note your TomTom reciever must be swithched on prior to doing this.
To check completion after this click on the Satus box and you should see some activity and sats recieved!
**To bond your Bluetooth reciever with your PDA.
See http://support-uk.tomtom.com/cgibin...290aCZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPTMmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=
Hope this sorts you out..
Tried the wizard and now it works, I was using it on another XDA 2 and was concerned that it was only restricted to that device after the intial use.
Thx Chaps
Glad to be of help ,
Hi,
must enable, as first,the bluetooth on your XDA,later set on gps options NMEA V9600 and com 5,will must work.
Br,
QK20202

Orange SPV M500 Tom Tom Navigator/Bluetooth GPS Problem.

Hi there!
I've recently got a M500 and I have a cellink BTG-7000 Bluetooth GPS Reciever.
I can pair the M500 & Reciever but when I go into the Tom Tom Navigator it does not find the Reciever when I go to Preferences. (there are com ports there but no matter what port I select it doesnt find it)
Any ideas why?
Hi,
I had simular probs. after pairing with another BT device. Just paired with the GPS & all was fine, so
- make sure the GPS is the last paired device
- create a com port for the GPS
- try upgrading radio
- get another BT stack
I'm having the stack from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532 but can't say it solved it or not. But it works & I can use the BT GPS & a BT earpiece at the same time.
Good luck, M
How do I create a com port for the GPS? I dont seem to have that option.
My BT stack asks me whether to create a com port for it when I pair with my GPS. Also under the BT connection settings I've got a tab which read 'COM ports'.
Cheers, M
Mine doesn't have any of these options, strange?!
I guess thats the problem, it seems my M500 doesnt let you manually assign a port.
Any ideas on a fix then?
I am on radio 1.12 & got those options from radio 1.11 on. You can try the updated BT stack from the thread 'O2 mini new BT stock'
Maybe that helP as well, otherwise upgrade your radio.
Cheers, M
Take the wired gps, baudrate 9600 en after that test some comports. It takes a while when TT detects the receiver, so hold on a bit. Most of the time it is comport 4 or 5.
what version are you using, i had similar problems,
I found that if you install version 5.1 or 5.2 straight on then it will not find the gps.
i installed the original 5.0 from cd. then got GPS working. TomTom may ask you to reset the device to configure gps [it did for me].
i then upgraded to 5.1 then 5.2 and everything works perfectly.
what version are you using, i had similar problems,
I found that if you install version 5.1 or 5.2 straight on then it will not find the gps.
i installed the original 5.0 from cd. then got GPS working. TomTom may ask you to reset the device to configure gps [it did for me].
i then upgraded to 5.1 then 5.2 and everything works perfectly.
I initially had the same problem with my BT GPS device and tomtom 5.0, but pairing them just before loading up tomtom and setting it to COM 5 and then waiting a while seemed to solve it!
Good luck!
Got-it!
Duh!
I must have missed something here, so I'm posting this for the few people who are thicker than I must be;-
When setting the BT com port under 'Bluetooth settings', the outgoing com port selection window is blank.
HOWEVER, choose 'settings>system>bluetooth setting' and voila!, that is where you see that COM5 is pre-chosen. (Why there needs to be a double-entry is another matter?)
Hope this saves someone some time.

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