Web browsing over bluetooth activesync slow? - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Anyone know how to speed it up? seems to take a very long time to load a webpage over bluetooth activesync... any tips?
The page takes 10-20seconds usually where as on my PC (that active sync is running from) it only takes a couple of seconds...

well it will be significantly slower than your PC for sure.. mainly because it's only leeching some stuff from your PC.. if you don't load the pictures, the pages will be faster to load...

Thanks for that, i turned of the images, makes it load a little quicker, but hte slow part is the connecting to the site initally, takes around 10-15seconds before it starts loading, without images it loads quick (after the initial 10-15second wait) with images doesn't take much longer... its that inital connection that seems to take a while... most pages load in a few seconds if not less on my PC on 1.5mbit ADSL with no background traffic.

maybe you can change your bluetooth baud rate to 115200 or higher for optimum speed.. i just couldnt remember where you can exactly change it but there is a way..

you can change it under the com port settings for the com port your using, dont know if it makes much difference...
Should MSN work over active sync?

of course MSN works in activesync passthru.. i use agile messenger for that coz i have both Yahoo and MSN messenger working.. while browsing the net in my XDA at the same time.. ive had no problems so far except the slow connection speed too..

agile is better imho and it support icq and such aswell

Would setting up a PAN or something speed it up?
What kind of range do you guys get?

well bluetooth is max 700Kb/sec
thats not really fast and of cause the ms stack dont support
pan so you need the vidcomm stack and even with that
then usb which most bluetooth in normal computers use
there is bound to be latencys and high cpu usage

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GPRS Dropping

I have vodafone (NL) as carrier, and everytime i connect to the gprs network it seems to drop the connection when it idles (when i'm not surfing) Is there a way to go around this time-out, since GPRS will only cost you, if you are ussing bandwidth. What i'm trying to do, is to have it online all the time for my instand messenger. would be really nice to have that. :lol:
Blame MS
Inbox, Pocket Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger and all Microsoft apps bundled on the device will deactivate the GPRS connection after 10 minutes of inactivity. So much for "GPRS Always On".
That's the problem with American programers in general. They didn't live with GPRS day in, day out when writing Pocket PC 2002. They have it now, but that's too late.
is it not possible to run a small application that pings any IP address, in order to keep the connection up. could someone tell me if it's possible? i figured a ping does not take a lot of bandwidth, so i dont mind the 2kb a day for just pinging, i just wanna be "always connected"
Was there any resolution to this problem? I too need to leave MSN Messenger running on my journeys.
Also, I would like to use Yahoo Messenger - is this possible?
Regards
John
Take a look at the link here:
http://eggheadcafe.com/articles/20020209.asp
It describes a ping utility for you. However, the Icmp socket type is not available (at least through C# Compact .NET framework on my PDA) so I ended up modifying it to use:
Socket socket = new Socket(AddressFamily.InterNetwork, SocketType.Stream, ProtocolType.Tcp);
instead.
I did lots of modifications as I was using this for a very specific purpose but it was a good starting point.
Setting up a ping to a server will keep the connection alive if it is already up. I would suggest "playing" with the timing to keep bandwidth down and keep the connection up.
I know this post is old so this probably is not useful but others may run into it.
Hope this helps,
Graham.

Slowwwww Wifi (Fixed)

I have my exec connected to my Wifi router but it is really slow to load pages. If i use icq or skype it is very quick but surfing is about 45 sec or longer to load any page.
Is there a quick fix or is this normal?
Thanks
Definitely, not normal. What pages are you loading? MSN, Yahoo and hofo forums, this forum and others load within a few seconds.
I found that Wi-Fi reception on my Exec is slightly weak...
If i try google or ebay or even this forum it takes about 45sec to 1 min to even think about it. I must ring o2 then if this is not normal or try it on a different wireless network and see.
Thanks
changed wireless router and all works fine now. phew
What did you change?

Networking Cababilities

Hey all...
I was messing about with a VNC Client / Viewer now, and its extremely slow, is there a reason for this?
I mean to get view of the entire desktop, which is not on a big resolution, it took about a minute, if I left it alone, I could see stuff happening, like every 2 seconds.
I am @ the office, and we have one PC playing music the whole time, it has a VNC Server on it. I am trying to control the PC from my JASJAR, but I cant bcos of the slowlness.
The Winamp counter changes every 2 seconds, is there a way to speed this up?
Also @ home, I connect through the wifi to my pc, which has movies shared on it, now obviously encoded for a PC not a PPC, some movies play for a minute or so and then buckle with lag, some lag right away, is this possibly bcos of throughput from the network or just simply bcos im on a PPC and it cant decode fast enough??
Thanks in advance.

Help with outlook speed

I'm using outlook, and it seems that when I try to connect (send/recieve) to get my email ,it says 'logging on...' and sits there for at least a minute. When it finally connects it takes mere seconds to download all my mail.Why is it so slow doing the log in step. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm doing this thru wifi only. Are there better email clients for win mobile? Thanks
raydog153 said:
I'm using outlook, and it seems that when I try to connect (send/receive) to get my email ,it says 'logging on...' and sits there for at least a minute. When it finally connects it takes mere seconds to download all my mail.Why is it so slow doing the log in step. Does anyone else have this issue? I'm doing this through wifi only. Are there better email clients for win mobile? Thanks
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Yeah mine also does this sometimes. Im not sure what it could be but it could just be the fact that it is connecting, authenticating, searching for changes, if any then it downloads them according to your settings, and then it closes the session. Your WiFi speed can effect this too. If this is the case try networking your connection or just do something simple as committing more functionality to your signal by changing the slider menu on the Wireless LAN Power Save Mode in favor of best performance.
All that might not seem as much but all those processes create a lag. (some may say that the new 3.27 might be the issue if you flashed to this radio, but this happened to me even with the original verizon radio)
What I am real curious about is if this is just outlook and everyone has this issue, or something to do with my config/provider, etc. Everything else is super quick with the status, when I have large emails I am downloading, it is quick. The only step that takes a long time is the logging on, the connecting, looking for changes and downloading steps are quick. Also IE, streaming video, etc all all quick, so I really doubt it is my connection. And the same speed for my home network vs. my work network.
I has the stock rom, flashed to the new radio, wm6.1, etc...and the issue still exists. I guess I am going to try other clients out there unless anyone has some suggestions or tweaks that can be made.
Thanks

I have a few questions.. and problems

I was wondering if anyone has some help for these issues:
1. WiFi is very slow. I have my laptop open and using my wifi. The router is 6 feet away and I have a very fast connection. My X1 is also open next to me and I am using Opera 9.5. Yet the web pages load in about 1/4 the time compared to my lap-top. This situation was the same for Internet Explorer and the pre-installed Opera browser so I am sure this is not an issue of Opera 9.5.
2. I installed Opera 9.5 a couple of days ago. I can use the program reasonably well, however every 30min or so the program will not start correctly. In the Windows Bar I see as URL, but the browser does not start. The only way is to re-install it - so I am now doing this every time I need it.
3. When phoning the screen goes blank. A real pain when I need to use number keys to navigate my voice mail.. How can I tell the phone to keep the screen on? I have changed the setting which blanks the screen after a while to 30mins so this is not the setting..
4. How can I tell the phone to NEVER use GSM for data..? I do not want to pay the high data rate that Vodafone charges. I want to use my WiFi for all data transactions. I know the phone is supposed to use WiFi by default.. but I do not think it always does so. Also, when the WiFi has not been activated it automatically activates GSM data packages (GPRS etc.). In Symbian you can set this.
Many thanks!
Thomas
rendering webpages is not just a matter of internet speed
os cpu and mem are factors too
a thing where your pda will have a hard time keeping up with your laptop
a arm 500Mhz is nowhere near as fast as an old 500Mhz p3
about 4
then
settings-connections-connections-advanced-select network and choose
my network in both dropdownbox's
thomas.dahl said:
I was wondering if anyone has some help for these issues:
1. WiFi is very slow. I have my laptop open and using my wifi. The router is 6 feet away and I have a very fast connection. My X1 is also open next to me and I am using Opera 9.5. Yet the web pages load in about 1/4 the time compared to my lap-top. This situation was the same for Internet Explorer and the pre-installed Opera browser so I am sure this is not an issue of Opera 9.5.
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You're comparing web rendering on a mobile device with a laptop... of course it's slow, not the wifi but the rendering.
thomas.dahl said:
2. I installed Opera 9.5 a couple of days ago. I can use the program reasonably well, however every 30min or so the program will not start correctly. In the Windows Bar I see as URL, but the browser does not start. The only way is to re-install it - so I am now doing this every time I need it.
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Opera 9.5 is in beta phase, so it's normal it has glitches.
thomas.dahl said:
3. When phoning the screen goes blank. A real pain when I need to use number keys to navigate my voice mail.. How can I tell the phone to keep the screen on? I have changed the setting which blanks the screen after a while to 30mins so this is not the setting..
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I prefer this way, so you can't press any button with your face accidentally.
If you need to input some command, just turn on the phone and you're done.
thomas.dahl said:
4. How can I tell the phone to NEVER use GSM for data..? I do not want to pay the high data rate that Vodafone charges. I want to use my WiFi for all data transactions. I know the phone is supposed to use WiFi by default.. but I do not think it always does so. Also, when the WiFi has not been activated it automatically activates GSM data packages (GPRS etc.). In Symbian you can set this.
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Search for the app called NoDATA to disable your connections.
Thanks guys for your comments.. I think they are all valid.. however..
1. The slow web site rendering makes sense, however the rendering is in my opinion slower than it should be. On my laptop the speed of loading a web site seems to be limited by my internet connection. When move away from the router the speed slows down and pages load slower. On my cell phone the bottle neck seems to be the rendering of the pages and not the internet connection. It would be curious if there is some way to test if the speed of the processor really is the limiting factor. Is there some way to slow down winXP to the speed of the X1 and see if rendering speed is about the same..?
2. Indeed Opera 9.5 is in Beta so bugs are to be expected. I am just curious if this is a bug that others have seen.
3. Fair comment.. I suspect that ear-lobe navigation will never take off. It should however be my choice and a setting I think? Having to turn the phone on each time meant that I had to do so 25 times last time I check my voice mail.. real slow..
4. Ok. But I want to have data enabled, but only for WiFi.. The phone seems to turn "Data" back on without my consent and then picks either GSM or WiFi for data. I do not have the control to stop GSM being used. If WiFi is not available it defaults to GSM. The comms manager is not powerful enough. Is there another manager I can use?
Thomas
thomas.dahl said:
3. Fair comment.. I suspect that ear-lobe navigation will never take off. It should however be my choice and a setting I think? Having to turn the phone on each time meant that I had to do so 25 times last time I check my voice mail.. real slow..
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XperiaTweak has the option to disable the switch off.
4. Ok. But I want to have data enabled, but only for WiFi.. The phone seems to turn "Data" back on without my consent and then picks either GSM or WiFi for data. I do not have the control to stop GSM being used. If WiFi is not available it defaults to GSM. The comms manager is not powerful enough. Is there another manager I can use?
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NoData doesn't touch Wifi. Also the other suggestion about changing the selection in Connections should work (although using Live Messenger on a Vodafone ROM will only work over Vodafones GPRS).
artesea - you are a hero - thanks!
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you can try and turn on internet information server and add a local website to test speed diff
you can try to connect the x1 using usb to your computer and see if there is any speed diff compared to wifi
you can also try out the wm emulators for windows (not sure if those also emulate the correct speeds of the wm device though)

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