I have been developing an application that communicates via BT SPP and resides on the XDA as well as other Pocket PC devcies. It seems that whenever I have to use the Microsft BT stack I have to tailor a solution for each device.Is it possible to download onto a PocketPC device a different stack, for example Widcom? What is involved ?
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Hello:
I was wondering if someone could explain the difference between the BT Stack that comes in the XDA/MDAII and the Widcomm BT Stack. I have read in other forums that this is the reason the XDA/MDAII BT does not work well with many devices.
Can someone clarify? Sorry if this question is too "dumb".
Fernando
The Bluetooth "stack" is the software portion of the Bluetooth. It provides various profiles, like a serial profile to connect to a COM/Serial Port, a network profile, a headset profile, etc. Each device provides different profiles.
MS Bluetooth stack some troubles with COM ports.
People are extracting the WidComm Stack, which comes on Ipaq, and using it on XDA II, till a patch is provided.
@palmop
Please how to do?
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Hi Palmop, here we go again!!!
I am trying to create a bond between my MDAII and a BT device. It is asking me to insert a PIN, which I do not have. The device manufacturer (igo.com) claims that a PIN is not necessary, since their device works well with the iPaqs and the Loox. So I am stuck in the middle of BT stack compatibility.
I have also tried to setup a BT bond between my MDAII and my desktop PC (with a BT USB dongle), and in this case the MDAII does not even recognize the desktop.
Is this all the result of a crappy BT stack in the MDAII? Do you think it can be fixed with a patch, or perhaps the Widcomm stack?
Thanks again for your advice.
Fernando
palmop said:
The Bluetooth "stack" is the software portion of the Bluetooth. It provides various profiles, like a serial profile to connect to a COM/Serial Port, a network profile, a headset profile, etc. Each device provides different profiles.
MS Bluetooth stack some troubles with COM ports.
People are extracting the WidComm Stack, which comes on Ipaq, and using it on XDA II, till a patch is provided.
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Could you please provide link for such resource? Thanks.
I believe you should be able to Active Sync via Bluetooth using current stack, at least, but haven't tried myself.
It is the Bluetooth GPS thread here on XDA-Developers.com, search for widcomm, you'll find it
Thanks. one question has not been answered there - after this mod BT headset is still functional?
Apparently no. However, they have used some files dated May, not the latest. So I don't know if those files would fix it.
I have a XDA II and a TDK BT dongle for my PC and can confirm that it does hook up successfully.
You just need to set the serial port to the COMM port of the BT dongle in Activesync, then hit use bluetooth in the activesync menu.
Dom
What is the latest version of the Widcomm BT Stack for the XDA II? I have noticed a new version, Widcomm BT-PPC/Phone Edition, but I can't find any information if it's been officially released and available to download. If so anyone know where to get that newer (and XDA II optimized) Widcomm BT-PPC/Phone Edition (I believe it's also called Widcomm BT-PPC version 2.x.x.x?), please let me know. Thanks!
Some of the new features included in this release...
BT-PPC/Phone Edition leverages current BTW-CE/PPC features and includes the following profiles (GAP, SDP, SPP, GOEP, OPP, FTP, SYNC, DUN, HSP, HFP & PAN).
Key features of this product:
Addition of WAN connectivity features
Implement cellular connectivity
Manage audio traffic routing to headset
Display radio signal strength (RSSI) on screen
Implement power management scheme (enable WAN connectivity while PPC is off/sleep)
Initial release OMAP platform
Here's the link of this information...
http://www.widcomm.com/Products/bluetooth_comm_software_btce.asp
(NOTE: I just posted this somewhere else previously where it is meant to be here.. sorry. :lol: )
Xda II - Hack Bluetooth from Widcomm
Hey people!
please chk this out
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9465&PN=1
I've installed this new widcomm stack version 1.4.1 Build 59 on my XDA2 but it doesn't seem to detect the built-in BT radio of XDAII and asks for a CF card. The documentation says that it supports internal BT as well. There r few instructions by chan but i can't seem to understand how to make this think working. Please give it a try.........
Errr... don't understand a thing it said in that previous link, can anyone translate that webpage? Babelfish didn't cut it. But I'll download everything that seems to have any connection to Widcomm and see what I can do. It does seems to has something to do with a PC-based USB BT dongle, not the internal BT in the XDA. Meanwhile if anyone has the actual Widcomm PPC/Phone Editon release please let me know. Thanks!
Ah, yep downloaded that file you referred to, unfortunately that is the wrong version (v1.4.1/59), it is techinically the same program running on the HP iPAQ H5000 series. The program is not the newer Widcomm Bluetooth Pocket PC Phone Edition version. Neverless keep the post comming if anyone knows anything about this new PPC Phone Edition Bluetooth release! I managed to modify the Widcomm Bluetooth stack to a hybrid version file, using a mix of versions to get various aspect of the Bluetooth technology and features working, so far everything is great, the only issues I am having are:
1. "Bluetooth failed to initialize properly" error messages upon restarting the Bluetooth feature or after rebooting the XDA2 with the newer hybrid Widcomm start up file link.
2. The hybrid Widcomm Bluetooth application disables itself when turning off the XDA2 in it's traditional PPC fashion, not utilizing the newer WM2003 Pocket PC Phone Edition's ablity to retain it's Bluetooth/GPRS connection.
Other than that I got all the features I wanted, such as the ablity to host/join a Bluetooth LAN/PAN, browse files remotely over BT, etc.
BTW v.1.4.1.59
I got the New Version from Sitecom. V 1.4.2.11 and it works with csr-500.
The V 1.41.1.59 is a Bluetooth CF software for WindowsCE PPC2000, 2002, 2003. Thats why it is asking for the CF adapter.
Hi everybody.
I would know if it's possibile to use the Microsoft bluetooth stack on Qtek9090 instead of the broadcom one.
I need this because I've developed a java application and a JNI dll that uses the MS stack functions in order to connect the PDA to our custom hardware via bluetooth. It was developed for a qtek2020 but now I need to use it on a 9090 too.
I don't want to spend $1500 for a devkit from broadcom....
Any help?
Well i beleive this is in a few phones but for reference i use the HTC Artemis (Orbit) and i can't use this product with the built in SP2 Bluetooth Stack. There appears to be no service that will allow it to opperate... i used to use it all the time when i used a toshiba bluetooth stack but that messed up activesync so decided to remove it and now have found i have lost the abbility to use this program. Has anyone had any success in how to use "Bluetooth Explorer" as in the one thata is in the XDA Orbit (and others just cant remember the name) with the Microsoft SP2 Bluetooth Stack.
If it matters its a Dell Wireless 350 hardware that is in the laptop, however i presume its software based as it worked when using the toshiba stack as i said.
Hey all,
I'm trying to pair a PPC with SonyEricsson's bluetooth watch MBW-150 to use moneytoo's brilliant SmartWatchM. This worked fine with my old PPC running the Microsoft bluetooth stack. My new PPC (LG KS20) uses the Widcomm/Broadcom stack, believed to be cleverer than the MS stack.
Here's the problem:
The PPC will not pair. The watch does not send out information according to the BT Service Discovery Protocol (SDP), because it was never meant to be paired with anything else than SE phones. The Microsoft stack didn't care and paired nonetheless. The Widcomm/Broadcom stack, however, will pair with BT devices only if it finds a supported profile. The watch uses the Serial Port Profile (SPP), but it doesn't say so, not sending any SDP information to the PPC. The PPC would support SPP of course, but doesn't pair as it has no way of knowing that the watch supports this profile.
In the end, when I try to pair, the PPC will see the watch but doesn't know what to do with it, and will not pair.
Is there any way of pairing (using a Widcomm/Broadcom stack) without SDP information? Can I enforce pairing with the watch? (I can easily insert serial port settings in the reg manually.)
Or can I somehow change my BT stack? I've read that the only way to do that would mean changing the ROM ... :-(
Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
N.
I'm using 32feet.NET library that supports only MS BT Stack. Fortunately I have just found this lib http://franson.com/bluetools/ that seems to support Widcomm Stack. I will try it soon.
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What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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Not a good news. Franson Bluetools doesnt work on smartphones. I dont know much about this stuff but from what I have read it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
Thanks for chiming in, moneytoo!
moneytoo said:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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This may be a noob question but: How do I tell whether it's Broadcom or Widcomm? Is there still a difference since Broadcom bought Widcomm?
Anyway, BT manager will not pair ("no supported protocol found").
moneytoo said:
it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
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I'm afraid that's true. I haven't found anything so far that would point me to a workaround, backdoor or anything - and as my KS20 is a company phone I can hardly change the ROM
Let's hope someone comes up with an idea!