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fixing small screen scratches

I posted a while ago about this with no response. I'd really appreciate some kind of input or advice or anything.
There are those of us who don't like screen protectors on our imates. Of course, after a year, this leads to those little, annoying scratches that seem to magically appear. There's stuff on the market to rub these out; one such product is Displex. I'd like to know if anyone has any experience with these products or any other methods of removing these tiny scratches.

If you haven't had a response in a year, I'd imagine that is because most people like the anti-glare and improved writing surface that a screen protector offers <shrug>
I know those scratches you're talking about but the first thing I do is to get a film for my new device to keep up the resale value.
I know this is a personal preference, but what do you have against films? I can't actually think of a downside to them apart from the first two attempts where you get dust under them and it annoys you for a week before you calm down enough to try it again =)
Maybe you could try one of these polishes and tell us how good they are, after all this information seems to be somewhat lacking ... ?

Amen to that. Actually the good brands (though a bit more expensive) of screen protectors are so easy to apply. I bought a couple of the ultra clear ones from Brando and i'm still on my first for close to a year now. Every now and then I clean the film with rubbing alcohol.
Since I own a few Swatch watches and most of them have already scratched plastic faces, I bought the little tube of scratch remover. It gets the job done but a lot of pressure is required especially if the scratch is very deep. Since my hands got very tired, I then used a Dremel. Word of advise, don't set the Dremel at a high speed because it will melt the plastic.
I don't know if the Magician's screen has some sort of anti-glare coating. When I tried to remove the scratches on my older pair of eye glasses, the anti-glare coating was taken off wether rubbing it manually or using the Dremel.

i've had only bad experiences with screen protectors. I guess that's what i get for being a cheap ass. Plus the jam is my first pda, so i never really realized how much of a problem those scratches really are.
I suppose the solution is to try the Displex screen scratch remover and then slap on a Writeshield AG. Thanks anyway.

I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.

zerimar said:
I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.
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Absolutely. I once used scratch remover on my old XDA (Wallaby) and found it to be efective in removing the scratches. Problem - in the area where i removed the scratches the display was compromised - it looked like a prisma of kinds, kinda like when you little drops of liquid on an cathode ray tv - you could see little bits of red green and blue.
I think some kind of layer was removed causing this. So really try it on a corner before you go for the entire screen.
And another word, if you are not familiar with using a Dremel, NEVER use it for cleaning or polishing of plexiglass. I ruined a swatch with that. Used it even at a low speed, but the polishing wheel made the plexi so hot the watchglass actually looked like a bumpy road. Had it professionally repolished at a jewelers place, but by doing this the plexi had got so thin that i broke after a while...
Dremel and plexi - no good in my opinion.

i have a few scratches that came with my magician (i didnt pay a cent for the scratches ). let us know how you go.
BTW, has any one used car polisher for such a task? I heard (not sure how correct/accurate), that its possible to remove small scratchs from cds wih car polisher? I wonder if it works for lcds.
now how is man enough to try it out in there magicians hay :lol: :lol:

Clear Coat HTC Touch Pro Fully Body Protection?

http://www.clear-coat.com/product.php?productid=475&cat=0&page=1
im a bit skeptic about this product, have anyone tried previous products by clear coat?

Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html

WDawn said:
Found a review of it here : http://www.intomobile.com/2008/06/23/clear-coat-full-body-scratch-protection-for-iphone.html
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to be honest, when i cant find any other reviews... then suddenly theres a really positive review, that makes me really skeptical...
and yes, it is this EXACT same review makes me skeptical about this product lol

Sounds like
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=88113-74130-PFW486&lpage=none
That's the stuff I used in my bathroom to frost my windows... I got it wet and slid it on.. used a squeegee and flattened it all out and 3 years later is is still sticking there.
The difference is that this is
1.) Clear
2.) Cut into the proper shape (you could do this yourself with some measuring but it saves hassle)
3.) the squeegee is probably smaller.
My bathroom windows are in a VERY humid environment... I have never had ANY peeling.
However I don't keep my bathroom windows in my pocket... so I don't know if the corners will peel up.
My main point is that for $24 of this "film" to cover a TINY phone... you can buy the same thing for $18 that would cover 10 phones... if the product works fantastic... the profit margin for them is HUGE. If it doesn't work... it's the biggest rip off ever.
See if Gila makes a clear one... get $18 worth and tinker away.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314

So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?

asolano895 said:
So it's good or not ? Anyone use one of these ?
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I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.

Black93300ZX said:
I've seen them used on iPhones, hard to put on but once it's on, it stays.
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Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.

venelar said:
Since you've had the Fuze already... Is the shape exactly the same as the TP? It looks like sprints version is a little more round along the corners. I'd Like to go ahead and purchase one of these for the Fuze but don't want to have to send it back.
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The only difference I noticed when seeing the 2 up next to each other was the shape of the speaker hole on the back, that might be enough to throw the protection off. Ask Raspster about it more, he had both the European and the Fuze at the same time, so he could tell you better than I could.

I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24

just got mine on Friday exactly as it's described, protects almost every part of the phone with their cut out plastic shield, however as mentioned in earlier post... doesn't really cover the edges, all in all... does really stick and so far looks pretty ok with the exception of little bubbles within the shield (poor application technique)

marcel808 said:
I got one, just to try it out.
Exactly as described above. Its a bit fiddly getting on but once on, it sticks very well.
Its great at sticking to flat surfaces, not so good on curves. And they don't even try and cover the corners on the device, which I would think are the places I'd want protected if I was to drop it.
The texture makes the back look very different from normal; its much nicer without the cover on. On the front, you can't really see the cover at all; edges are perfectly aligned with the phones edges.
The back and the front of the phone are covered very well. Sides not so great. Corners not at all. Front looks good. Back looks crap.
My opinion, its no way worth $24
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Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425314
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I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!

I would also like to know this. Can it be removed again without leaving marks on the phone?
How scratch proof is it really?
Because of the lack of info on the site (still no video's on how to apply the thing, their forum is just about empty and they don't reply to customer questions...) they really don't seem to thrustworthy ...
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serphinox said:
Hi Marcel808,
Is it easy to peel it off without tearing the phone's original casing? Especially the back cover. I just ordered mine, hope it arrives soon.
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mrrogers1 said:
I have used the Zagg's products (formerly Invisible Shield) on my 6800, 6700, wifes Centro and even custom ordered for my Pioneer 6800DVD in my car. I really like the product, the service is second to none... That said, I think since I have used the product and know how it performs in pockets, and how to install correctly (installed dozens of shields for myself, family and friends), I may try this new product.
Screen protection has always been great and flat surfaces (side) great as well but the corners usually give way, slide and start to bubble after about 4 months of heavy in and out of the pocket use.
This is a $24 experiment begging to happen.... now if Sprint would just release the damn phone!
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I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.

yes it can easily be removed without any mark left at all....I found the cover started to collect dusk a lot (it must be slightly sticky) so I removed it.

Phantisy said:
I would get the one released by Zagg. They offer a lifetime replacement on all products and they will replace it no questions I know. Their stuff is nearly impossible to scratch and I TRIED just about everything to scratch it. All phones full covers are $25. Never had any bubbling issues with Zagg's products.
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Trust me, I know oh too well the replacement process and have replaced and installed many over the last 5 years.
The fact that I know the Zagg product so well, makes the experiment more interesting. I know the Zagg stuff so well that I will know if this Clear Coat stands a chance AND since it's only $25... It might turn out to be junk, the company could not stand behind the guarantee BUT we'll see.

*Update
Just got my phone yesterday and I just ordered the Clear Coat. I'll install and do a little initial write up. I'll order the Zagg shield when it becomes available and do a comparison.
It's only money and it IS a $700 device.... (but I only paid $250 for it)
Stay tuned guys.
**Update
Just ordered a Zagg full body shield at 40% off as they just got them and were doing a Halloween special I guess. I should have the Cleat Coat on Mon/Tues and the Zagg will probably be here the week after. I think I'll install the Clear Coat first, use it for a week or so and then install the Zagg and do the same.

Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!

waaz1d said:
Can anyone who has purchased tell me if there is a cutout for the speaker on the front? Tah!
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I don't have mine yet but why on earth would there NOT be a cutout for the earpiece???

Build Quality ?

Hi all,
I'm thinking about buying a Touch HD but I'm wondering about the build quality.
What about the rubber coating of the rear face? Does it easyli peel?
Same question for the coating of the power and volume buttons.
I really don't want a device which fwill soon feels used.
I'm a bit fussy with these kind of device...
Thanks!

I think its a good finish quality, like the diamond in front, and the Kaiser on the back (rubber-like).
But hey, it's my opinion!
When I grabbed for 1st time, I said it was a well build phone and still have that idea.
Cheers.

I've not noticed any problems with the quality of them. The touchy-feely (technical term ) back cover is like the Elf, which I have not had a problem with at all. The hard buttons don't really have a coating on them, but I suppose like anything, with enough usage it may show signs of wear.
The case is sealed with no gaps, the screen is flush with the rest of the case... It's great quality. There's a reason it was called Blackstone. It really is like a black stone.

Strange question
This is my 4th HTC Device Polaris,cruis,Diamond and finaly Blackstone.
I didn't notice bad build quality before and the only thing I can say is that the Hd seems a least equal or even better than the other one , especially for the screen .
Still all of this dveices have one big throwback :
IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP THEM CLEAN.

does it have some creaky sounds or something like this??
thx

The frame around the screen is it metal or plastic?
As for the diamond the frame is metal which I really like but the pictures of the Blackstone I have seen so far I suspect it is plastic.

srmz said:
The frame around the screen is it metal or plastic?
As for the diamond the frame is metal which I really like but the pictures of the Blackstone I have seen so far I suspect it is plastic.
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its metall
and the backside is of a high quality plastic (feels like rubber)

THe paint on the back does have that tactile textured feel kinda like rubber I suppose (fetishist phones?.... ;-) ) - it's the exact same 'feel' [same paint finish I'd guess?] and look as my old Motorola Z3 phone - I was always concerned that would show shiny signs of wear around the edges etc - NEVER ever did - and it was used hard for a good year or so.
I'm hoping that this is the same finish as that - certainly appears to be

BerreZ said:
Still all of this dveices have one big throwback :
IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP THEM CLEAN.
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lol tell me about it. They are the mobile equivalent of getting glass desks, tables etc. Look good but will drive you insane at how quickly they attract fingerprints, dust and the like
For what its worth 2 other aussies got their HD today and pretty much said what others have mentioned. Front looks and feels good and the back has a solid rubbery feel to it good for grip.

Paint-stripping problems?

Hi, I'm new ad I have a question for hd'users:
Have you note stripping problems?
I ask this because some italian users have note this after 3-4 days. They say that there are some chromate points on their hd.
Thank you.

Bounced Paint on the Frame
Hey guys,
I read something about scratches and damaged paint on the metal-frame around the HD.
What do you know about that? Anybody here who has this problem?

[WARNING] they chip easily
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.

stuff like this really gets my goat. you pay top dollar for a product and there shouldnt be issues like this.

Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.

eaglesteve said:
Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.
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thats my point, you shouldnt have to.

indup said:
thats my point, you shouldnt have to.
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The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.
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No, but the plastic on the backs of the iPhone 3Gs get stress fractures without any drops or pressure on them.
I don't ever use a screen protector. I treat my screen like I do a high dollar pair of sunglasses. only use microfiber clothes on it and I always use a belt case holder. I recently bought a Golla side pouch and like it a lot on how it protects it from all angles.

jon- said:
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.
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me too, Ive had mine for 2 weeks though BUT don't have any chips, just one tiny scratch above the front speaker which I'm sure was me being drunk/careless ...

Good to hear that it is holding out good so far. However, I personally would still put on the protective shield, more as a precaution.
Can't hurt, can it?

If you use the stylus at all, I'd always use a screen protector. It's too easy to just one day trap a sharp particle between the stylus tip and the screen as you go to handwrite, and then scratch it up badly before you realise.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
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Well obviously glass can scratch and he's not suggesting his screen shouldnt scratch if its mistreated, theres a few ppl talking about the black area paint chipping, very reminiscent of the P3600i
HTC need to learn you cant promote a phone like this as a stylish new device and skimp out on essentials like this. My iphone 2G is a prime example of craftsmanship, I dont know how many times the back of it should be scratched and battered by now but it still looks damn good and quality.

jon- said:
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
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Any photos to see??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447898

On my HD TIM the paint is gone

paolonio said:
On my HD TIM the paint is gone
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Post some pictures!

Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now

nin2thevoid said:
Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now
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Same here!
No need to create panic, so I'm gonna give the guys a chance to post some pictures before I close this thread.

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Post some pictures!
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Second that. You have to show that you even have a phone in the first place.
But seriously, let's see how bad the situation is.

Yep, check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448193
My paint is starting to come off.

Anyone tried this Sheild?

I was browsing through the net and came across this invisible sheild. Looks good. Has anyone tired this?
What do u guys think it will work?
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I have it on my Hermes and like it for the most part. I like how they have a lifetime warranty on it. The downside is that it collects dust on the edges at times and installation isn't so fun (although i would assume it to be a lot easier for the X1 since it is more of a geometric figure).

I think its a must for the X1 specially the black ones which are having a issue of color giving away.
My concern was has anyone installed it on the x1?
How easy is it?
Does it get a good finishing?

Generally the Invisible Shield provides great protection against small bangs and is certainly scratch proof. I have previously applied to an iPod Touch and to an Omnia and they both covered the entire surface area of the device. I was slightly surprised to find some areas, albeit very small areas to the side of the X1, were not covered by the skin. This, however, is pretty insignificant and all the main areas are well protected including the screen. I have read on other forums that the sizing of the the screen protector has caused some people problems but with a bit of manipulation, it fits perfectly under the rim of the case. Installation can be a bit fiddly but providing you use the included squeegee, any air bubbles or slight discrepancies disappear in a couple of days when the application liquid dries out.
I love the slightly 'rubbery' feel as it helps grip and I think it also feels nice on tactile for the stylus on the screen.
All in all, to be recommended.

I have read of a few problems with this particular shield, the lettering ripped off the back when trying to fix or replace the plastic... pain in the rear to put on etc, if I can find the links I will post them later...

Wrong thread!

moleculez said:
I was browsing through the net and came across this invisible sheild. Looks good. Has anyone tired this?
What do u guys think it will work?
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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Read first and then post!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=472 (see poll)

jorge999
thanks for your help? Also wanted to know if there are chances of the liquid used at the time of installation to spoil the phone?
Also does the corners of the shield start to open up after a prolonged used? Pics please if u can. ALso the rubbery feeling does it stick to the inside of your pocket when u try to remove the phone. I remember those silicon covers (famously known as C0nd0m covers) which flooded the market a few years ago.
Lokatho
Bro we are not talking about screen protector. We are talking about a entire phone shield poll?

dont even THINKING about getting the invisible shield from Zagg.
check the reviews and multiples negative thoughts and pics after it was applied.
http://www.inxperia.com/forums/accessories/527-do-not-waste-your-money-invisible-shield.html

NO
I definately wouldn't stick anything like this to the body of my phone and am even hesitant to stick shields to my screen but have done anyway.
I decided to go for a crystal case. The first time I have used one and normally preferred silicon cases.
The last silicon case is the one currently on my iPhone and although it protects from slight scratches (coins etc on the back) it does nothing for dropping it.
The silicon simply compressed when the phone hit the floor and it got a nice deep scratch on the corner just as if it had had no cover.
I put the screenshield I got for the iphone on my xperia instead and bought this crystal case.
It's a nice fit, holds nicely, everything is nicely accessible and it seems sturdy.
I havn't dropped the phone yet so can't comment on its performance in this circumstance but i'm sure i will find out son enough.
Problem with the logos is that they are printed onto the paint which in turn is painted on to the metal. Before my crystal case I already have a few parts where the black paint on the battery cover has scratched off.
Crystal case pros: cheap, sturdy, effective, easy to apply and remove.
Crystal case: Cons: Lots of dust gets under them so if you want your phone to look nice you need to take it off and wash it regularly.

moleculez said:
jorge999
thanks for your help? Also wanted to know if there are chances of the liquid used at the time of installation to spoil the phone?
Also does the corners of the shield start to open up after a prolonged used? Pics please if u can. ALso the rubbery feeling does it stick to the inside of your pocket when u try to remove the phone. I remember those silicon covers (famously known as C0nd0m covers) which flooded the market a few years ago.
Lokatho
Bro we are not talking about screen protector. We are talking about a entire phone shield poll?
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The complete shield is also discussed in the poll-thread and in other threads in the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 Accesoires subforum, because that is where this belongs......
Not to diss you, just to be helpfull....

I try invisible shield on silver X1,i was surprised tat the front part of the phone doesnt cover wif the shield cos the package don come wif tat but anyway it was well protected,nice n i m pleased wif it