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Scratches on Athena body

Hello,
i want to change my Ameo in a new one because there are a lot of scratches on the front body. The reason is that the keyboard slipping on the surface of the body.
If any one have the same problem please Post it here because i want to show T- Mobile that this is a failure of construction.

Mine is exactly the same, I tried to take a picture, but it wasnt comming out very well, I was quite annoyed because I tried to keep it good. Does anybody know if this happens with the black ones or is it just silver. mine isnt insured and T-Mobile wouldnt entertain me for insurance because it was 3 months old. though I have heard you can insure it online somewhere.

i've got the same kind of scratches at exactly the same positions.
but i don't think t-mobile will do anything about this
i'ts a normal sign of use

I have some scratches as well, fairly similar to yours. I'll have some pics made if I can get a hold of a good enough camera.

I have a scratch at the bottom of the screen surround. The keyboard clear top has a tiny bump on it (from where it was moulded i think) and this has scratched the case! If it had a decent leather case then it wouldnt happen!

Same here, Same scratches, same area..
Guess we need to find a decent case to carry our precious around in...
Something that has some padding between the 2 parts.

Mine doesn't have this problem. Not a single scratch at all. It still look brand new. I don't use the keyboard or the leather case though. I just carry mine "naked" with my DIY belt pouch. I just have the standard free plastic screen protector over the screen area only and not the body.
This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.

eaglesteve said:
This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.
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It definetely does protect (the screen from cracks).
And imho some scratches on the body of the ameo are much better than a cracked screen

You now, we are speaking about a 800€ all in one device? Such a failure must not happen. If you had a 800€ Notebook with the same problem you would complaine about.

This is what my U1000 looks like close to the VGA camera on the front.
There are 2 more areas where I have some damage but I can't capture it properly on camera.

This is why we should take out insurance on our most expensive phones, as i hate scratches on my phones and if you complain about it with your provider/supplier and they are not willing to replace it when its a manufacture defect then i would personally claim on my insurance QUOTE (MY PHONE IS LOST/STOLEN TO GET BACK A REPLACEMENT) Its too expensive a device for it to scratch so easily.

I have the black HTC Advantage and I have the scratches too.

I have the black Athena and barely any scratches on mine. I use the stock case. The only time I got it scratched is when I first got it because I tried to use it without the case. Mistake on my part.
If you search the forum, you can also buy a $25 solution that protects your entire Athena. It's a plastic transparent covering that protects the entire body of the device. I think I may have posted it in the past to the accessories area. Well worth the tiny investment to protect the looks of your device.

Yep, I have the Black HTC Advantage X7500 and I have no scratches on it. I also do carry naked in my pocket especially around the office to meetings. However, I do feel I need something to protect it without gaining the bulk. I am still looking for a belt clip to carry it.

Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.

Looks Intresting.. But we all know that these type of solution are never as easy to install (Esp. as there are 8 pieces for the Athena)
as they are in the Promo vidz. The vidz also mention that the film has Adhesive on it. How would this affect the deve by:
1. Discoloring over time
2. Being able to easily remove the film, if need or if damaged.
3. Being removed from the screen, without pulling the touchscreen's
touch sensor film off.
Has anybody tried this stuff yet? I think I'll wait for more feedback before I buy.

http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/invisible_shield_protection.html
From some of comments, it seems easy to remove from a pda.
I don't know if that comment was from someone who works for ShieldZone though.

Staroip said:
Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.
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I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.

ltxda said:
I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.
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I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.

lpsi2000 said:
I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.
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I have it on for over 4 months. Search this very forum for an extensive discussion on it. Easy to install with the water spray bottle provided. The screen protector is a bit sticky so I took it off and used a regular one.
Don't ask any more questions. Just search for the original thread here
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298808

HTC Kaiser Skins - InvisibleSHIELD, Body Guardz, etc...

I am thinking of getting a case to protect my Kaiser...
What do you guys think of this HTC Kaiser Body Guardz:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42272.html
I know it is transparent, but it is not clear if it will protect it from falls, etc...I doubt it...
/MN

weird ...
every other variations of the Kaiser ( TYTN II/8925/TILT/Vario III )is out of stock except for the "TILT" is available for ordering ...
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42589.html
must be vendor error or NOT YET AVAILABLE ( should all be same ... except for the single camera model ) ... I would email & ask ... I think this is just website putting it up way before the device came out ... ( roughly within the last 2 weeks, if you covering all the variations coming to be reality. )
curious ... on one of the demo video ... they had the iPhone protected right over that touchscreen ... I got to thinking ...
if their measurement are top notch ... hopefully the one for the Kaiser does the covering for the screen too !!
we can skip the screen protector altogether ( its thickness replacing the screen protector's thickness ) ... LOL
those thing dries to an invisible result !! COOL stuffs ... I'll be ordering one for sure .. plus I'll get a cool case as well. ( because the guardz is mainly for nick & scratches ... not dropping.
The bodyguardz is because my Kaiser deserved the spoiling ... hahahah

this is weird indeed... I just checked a moment - it doesn't update the stock status until you get into the cart...I will shoot them an email?
what non-magnetic flip case would you recommend?
rgds, MN

I like that the back of the Kaiser is "slightly rubberized" it keeps it from slipping around like the old Hermes did. Does this cover feel the same way? I probably wouldn't go for it either way, but, if it is slippery, it takes away a nice feature IMO.

liking the look of the bodyguard thingey! is it tough/ - ie drop proof?

I put something like this on my wife's iPhone and it works great. Well worth the investment and it really cuts down on the fingerprint smudges (the iPhone is flat out impossible to keep smudge free). I used this skin and bought one of the thin ruberized cases, and my 14 month old daughter has knocked it off tables on several occassions with not a scatch or even a blip of the screen. I have to admit for all it's lack of features, that thing is TOUGH and makes a great device for my wife. I also like the peace of mind that the thing can get thrown around her purse to her hearts content right beside that massive key ring and all I have to do is peel that thing off and it will look like new.
I wonder how well it would suit the Kaiser though since it has more moving parts. On the two occasions my daughter has knocked my 8125 off the coffee table, I have cringed. No damage, but on one occasion the battery door got knocked off, thus forcing a soft reset. Even with one of these covers, I am thinking the sliding keyboard and pop off battery cover will make it more prone to injury, even when it is in a decent case.
Bottom line, I'll be making sure my Kaiser is out of reach!!

i've been watching that site for 3 weeks now waiting for them to get the skins in stock. well, my order went through without a problem

give us a feedback when u get it dude

traveling on business all week, but will follow up when i return next weekend.

jgermuga said:
I put something like this on my wife's iPhone and it works great. Well worth the investment and it really cuts down on the fingerprint smudges (the iPhone is flat out impossible to keep smudge free). I used this skin and bought one of the thin ruberized cases, and my 14 month old daughter has knocked it off tables on several occassions with not a scatch or even a blip of the screen. I have to admit for all it's lack of features, that thing is TOUGH and makes a great device for my wife. I also like the peace of mind that the thing can get thrown around her purse to her hearts content right beside that massive key ring and all I have to do is peel that thing off and it will look like new.
I wonder how well it would suit the Kaiser though since it has more moving parts. On the two occasions my daughter has knocked my 8125 off the coffee table, I have cringed. No damage, but on one occasion the battery door got knocked off, thus forcing a soft reset. Even with one of these covers, I am thinking the sliding keyboard and pop off battery cover will make it more prone to injury, even when it is in a decent case.
Bottom line, I'll be making sure my Kaiser is out of reach!!
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As i've mentioned earlier about the iPhone howto video ...
Could you tell me how good the touch sensitive screen reponses when it have the "bodyguardz" covered ??
note: ... only certain kit(s) goes this way of "covering the whole screen" ... if it works well ... I hope the TyTN II kit do the same ...
thickness is similar to a screen protection I guess ... there's one video for the MACBOOK and it does the "covering of the mouse's touchpad" as well ... so I guess it works really well then.
YOUTUBE howto vids ... all sorts
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bodyguardz&search=Search
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ok guys (and any girls) i just applied the BodyGuardz to my Kaiser and took a few pics before hitting the road... I've included 10 pics in the attached zip file. they're not the best pics, but hopefully they give you some perspective on fit, look, etc. keep in mind that it takes 24 hours for the bubbles to disappear. the pics were taken about 3 hours after application so you'll see some bubbles here and there. by the way, you get 2 sets of skins and 3 screen protectors with the kit. each set includes a skin for the left and right sides, one for the top, one for the back and one for the front. the left side skin also covers the bottom of the phone. so far I'm pleased. i like the somewhat tacky-feel and now i know my phone will be protected from scratches when in my pocket. overall this is a pretty good value.

InvisibleSHIELD
Would anyone else be likely to purchase a screen and phone body protective case from ShieldZone if they have one available?
I have used these on many of my gadgets and they are the best around (IMHO)
I just emailed them to see if one is in the works and will post back with their reply when I recieve it.

Park City said:
Would anyone else be likely to purchase a screen and phone body protective case from ShieldZone if they have one available?
I have used these on many of my gadgets and they are the best around (IMHO)
I just emailed them to see if one is in the works and will post back with their reply when I recieve it.
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I too think they make the best protection for our devices. I've used them on my previous Wizard and Hermes and loved them. The problem I see with putting them on the Kaiser/Tilt is that there's really not much real estate to cover. There's the screen (of course), but that's about it. I personally wouldn't want to cover the back because I like the grip I can get from it. The sides are "ridged", and can't be covered. And the rest of the face is just too small to cover.
But they're really good about making custom shields if you bring in your device to them and it's only like $10 more than their usual charge. But once they make a template, no more custom build fees.

I bought the invisibleshield for my 8125 many years ago. It was a big waste of money. I hated it.

i too had reservations about using a "skin" to protect my Kaiser. i just recently applied the BodyGuardz to my device and as of know, i think i'll continue to use them. this is a link to some pictures (some good, some not so good) in case anyone's interested to see how it turn out.

i had this for my wizard. I love how friendly customer service was. If for some reason, you screw up your cover, which is pretty hard to do, then you can ask them to ship you another one paying for shipping as long as you register.
Only complaint is that it's a little too thick. Didn't feel good with the stylus. But at least I was confident that my screen wasn't going to get damaged.

bloody hell i can hardly see it!
it looks so thin!
are you sure it will protect it?

little_rock said:
bloody hell i can hardly see it!
it looks so thin!
are you sure it will protect it?
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yes, it's thin and it covers a significant portion of the device. durability is good at the moment...time will tell how well it protects the device.

Does anyone now if there will be any traces left when you remove the "bodyguardz"?

Corinna said:
Does anyone now if there will be any traces left when you remove the "bodyguardz"?
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I am pretty sure it will unless it covers 100% of the back. I kept my protection film on the battery cover for 2 days of use, when i took it off, there was a very noticeable trace from where it was.

Paint-stripping problems?

Hi, I'm new ad I have a question for hd'users:
Have you note stripping problems?
I ask this because some italian users have note this after 3-4 days. They say that there are some chromate points on their hd.
Thank you.

Bounced Paint on the Frame
Hey guys,
I read something about scratches and damaged paint on the metal-frame around the HD.
What do you know about that? Anybody here who has this problem?

[WARNING] they chip easily
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.

stuff like this really gets my goat. you pay top dollar for a product and there shouldnt be issues like this.

Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.

eaglesteve said:
Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.
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thats my point, you shouldnt have to.

indup said:
thats my point, you shouldnt have to.
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The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.
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No, but the plastic on the backs of the iPhone 3Gs get stress fractures without any drops or pressure on them.
I don't ever use a screen protector. I treat my screen like I do a high dollar pair of sunglasses. only use microfiber clothes on it and I always use a belt case holder. I recently bought a Golla side pouch and like it a lot on how it protects it from all angles.

jon- said:
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.
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me too, Ive had mine for 2 weeks though BUT don't have any chips, just one tiny scratch above the front speaker which I'm sure was me being drunk/careless ...

Good to hear that it is holding out good so far. However, I personally would still put on the protective shield, more as a precaution.
Can't hurt, can it?

If you use the stylus at all, I'd always use a screen protector. It's too easy to just one day trap a sharp particle between the stylus tip and the screen as you go to handwrite, and then scratch it up badly before you realise.

eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
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Well obviously glass can scratch and he's not suggesting his screen shouldnt scratch if its mistreated, theres a few ppl talking about the black area paint chipping, very reminiscent of the P3600i
HTC need to learn you cant promote a phone like this as a stylish new device and skimp out on essentials like this. My iphone 2G is a prime example of craftsmanship, I dont know how many times the back of it should be scratched and battered by now but it still looks damn good and quality.

jon- said:
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
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Any photos to see??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447898

On my HD TIM the paint is gone

paolonio said:
On my HD TIM the paint is gone
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Post some pictures!

Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now

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Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now
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Same here!
No need to create panic, so I'm gonna give the guys a chance to post some pictures before I close this thread.

tnyynt said:
Post some pictures!
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Second that. You have to show that you even have a phone in the first place.
But seriously, let's see how bad the situation is.

Yep, check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448193
My paint is starting to come off.

Installed pics of film type full body protectors? Invisible shield? Ghost Armour?

hello, does anyone have installed pictures of these films on their phone, i would like to see exactly how much coverage they offer, i have searched everywhere but cant find any

BlackAccord said:
hello, does anyone have installed pictures of these films on their phone, i would like to see exactly how much coverage they offer, i have searched everywhere but cant find any
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I just got my ghost armor in the mail today, it is actually front, back, and then smaller side and top, bottom pieces. I'll see about posting some pics when I install it. Not going to do it tonight, am very tired and don't want to screw it up.

Someone in the Invisible Shield post promised to post pics, but never did. I too was really curious how it looks, since I have never seen one in person.

bilbobrian said:
I just got my ghost armor in the mail today, it is actually front, back, and then smaller side and top, bottom pieces. I'll see about posting some pics when I install it. Not going to do it tonight, am very tired and don't want to screw it up.
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I would highly appreciate that

Pictures for Invisible Shield (Full Body) on Fuze
Hi all,
Here is my Fuze that i covered with Full Body Invisible Shield. I like it, made it feel rugged and i can really put it at any surface now without worrying about scratching the sides. The four points or should i say eight points of the phone corners are not that protected. The IS has been covering my phone for almost 1 month.
I also increased the brightness and contrast of the pictures when i uploaded it so you guys could see the IS better.
I bought this so called "free lint cloth" from WalMart, but lo and behold, it's not actually lint free, it HAS lots of lint when i used it. So on the back of my Fuze, you will see a few white dots, those are the lints from the cloth. Well, lesson learn, gotta make sure it's lint free cloth
Hope the pictures help. But overall, i really like my IS.

thx for the pics - i wish someone would jsut release a decent non-glossy backcover replacement already for the fuze - i dont want to deal with protecting the back faceted stuff at all.
Do you find the screen protecter to reduce the screen sensitivity/scroll speed at all? The stock screen protector ive found to do this a little bit with my stylus input.

paperdimension said:
Hi all,
Here is my Fuze that i covered with Full Body Invisible Shield. I like it, made it feel rugged and i can really put it at any surface now without worrying about scratching the sides. The four points or should i say eight points of the phone corners are not that protected. The IS has been covering my phone for almost 1 month.
I also increased the brightness and contrast of the pictures when i uploaded it so you guys could see the IS better.
I bought this so called "free lint cloth" from WalMart, but lo and behold, it's not actually lint free, it HAS lots of lint when i used it. So on the back of my Fuze, you will see a few white dots, those are the lints from the cloth. Well, lesson learn, gotta make sure it's lint free cloth
Hope the pictures help. But overall, i really like my IS.
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Thanks for the pics
Looks good. I will very likely order one as soon as I get the Fuze. Your pics definitely helped me make my decision. It's hard to believe Invisible Shield doesn't have pics like that on their site, so customers can get a real look at what it looks like installed.
Thanks again!

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bpm2000 said:
thx for the pics - i wish someone would jsut release a decent non-glossy backcover replacement already for the fuze - i dont want to deal with protecting the back faceted stuff at all.
Do you find the screen protecter to reduce the screen sensitivity/scroll speed at all? The stock screen protector ive found to do this a little bit with my stylus input.
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It felt kinda weird after i first applied it, for the first week i would say, the IS feels alien sort of to the Fuze, but after that i let it cured under a desk lamp every night. During this time, i almost think about removing it and not using it, but i let it go and just wait after a few days and voila, it's really becoming the skin of my Fuze.
The screen becomes a little bit sticky with the stylus, i do have to get used to it, but after the first week, everything is good.

Eh. invisibleSHIELD doesn't do it for me. I'm ordering bodyguardz. It looks to unprecise.

paperdimension said:
Hi all,
Here is my Fuze that i covered with Full Body Invisible Shield. I like it, made it feel rugged and i can really put it at any surface now without worrying about scratching the sides. The four points or should i say eight points of the phone corners are not that protected. The IS has been covering my phone for almost 1 month.
I also increased the brightness and contrast of the pictures when i uploaded it so you guys could see the IS better.
I bought this so called "free lint cloth" from WalMart, but lo and behold, it's not actually lint free, it HAS lots of lint when i used it. So on the back of my Fuze, you will see a few white dots, those are the lints from the cloth. Well, lesson learn, gotta make sure it's lint free cloth
Hope the pictures help. But overall, i really like my IS.
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Thank you so much for posting those pictures, it does worry me a bit that the corners are exposed, you would think that the corners would be the first to hit the ground when dropped but the good thing is that IS doesnt add bulk and allows the fuze to keep its good looks , leaning towords IS but have to do just a lil bit more research

Kraize said:
Eh. invisibleSHIELD doesn't do it for me. I'm ordering bodyguardz. It looks to unprecise.
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would you consider bodyguardz has the most accurate precission compared to IS, ghost armor, and whatever else? I'm still trying to find a skin that is _specifically_ made for fuze and covering the corners as well.

i am thinking of getting bodyguardz.. been using them ever since
dont like Invisbile shield anymore but the back is good. front sucks
ghost armor never heard of them... might try it.
martinoverlay don't have it for fuze ):
best skinever = don't have it for fuze ):
blah hopefully i can find a discount to get a good deal :d

Insible Shield in Malls
I'm in the LA area and Invisible Shield has kiosk in some of the malls. You can se/touch/feel, etc.. it first hand. I looked at it and am going to have them (they cover the phone in about 45 minutes) my FUZE.

@cyberblue
So far, none of them covered the corners >.> none that I could find. This is because it would peel at corners and come off because they are round and not dead flat straight like the diamond is. There might be later. I ordered Bodyguardz after looking at the pictures and seeing that it looks much tougher and protects MUCH more area. and the invisible shield looks like crap. It is not fit for the fuze. Looking at the pics posted by someone on this forum, You'll notice that the screen protector and the front panel covers are not curved for the fuze. They're just straight.
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I'm curious. Since invisibleSHIELD usually has the correct dimensions and to the looks of this picture, it seems that the OP bought a touch pro body cover instead of a fuze body cover. I think that is a camera hole by the AT$T logo. But I'm not sure. I'll pm the poster of these pictures.
Pic:

Yea,
I did buy the Touch Pro GSM version of IS. Indeed, there is a hole in my AT&T logo, the IS had hole in it, i should have just put the small IS holeto cover it , but my mistake, i threw it out and i forgot about it.

paperdimension said:
Yea,
I did buy the Touch Pro GSM version of IS. Indeed, there is a hole in my AT&T logo, the IS had hole in it, i should have just put the small IS holeto cover it , but my mistake, i threw it out and i forgot about it.
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Ah. That is why the dimensions of the invisibleSHIELD are a little off.

mstevem said:
I'm in the LA area and Invisible Shield has kiosk in some of the malls. You can se/touch/feel, etc.. it first hand. I looked at it and am going to have them (they cover the phone in about 45 minutes) my FUZE.
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Hey I live in LA!!! Would you mind telling me which malls have the kiosk? I'd love to check them out.
edit: do they also put it on for you?

villa_bryan said:
Hey I live in LA!!! Would you mind telling me which malls have the kiosk? I'd love to check them out.
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Doesn't some of the Orange County malls carry em too?

I'm sure it's just a kiosk vending machine time. I don't think it puts it on for you. lol

D3TH METAL said:
I'm sure it's just a kiosk vending machine time. I don't think it puts it on for you. lol
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I wish, I tried putting on a InvisibleSHIELD last week and that was a disaster.

OK. How fragile is the screen, really?

Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R

Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.

Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s

Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure

I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far

Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.

I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
: /

I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )

johncmolyneux said:
FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?

Spike15 said:
Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>

johncmolyneux said:
lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.

Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too

I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.

i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.

screen strength
being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R

Impunitus said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978