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Lan access with MDA Compact via bluetooth accespoint.

Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?

i have the same prob ;-(
i have a qtek2020 and dlink dbt-900ap bluetooth acceess point attached to usrobotics router...
zeee

Ronnie12 said:
Can somebody tell me how to connect my MDA compact to my wlan router via bluetooth ? I've got a bluetooth access point (dlink DBT-900AP) that is connected by ethernet cable to my router/adsl modem.
I want to use email en internet access with my MDA Compact.
The standard built in bluetooth manager seems not to support this LAN access through bluetooth. Who can help me ?
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The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?

i think it needs the ppp bluetooth profile
and ms bluetooth stack dont have that
vidcomm bluetooth stack does....
you can try using that

henrylim said:
The BT Lan Access Service using Microsoft BT Stack has been removed in the registry. It's been like that since XDA2.
I do not know if there is a corresponding driver available in MDA Compact such that you can re-enable the service via updated registry entries.
Anyone?
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Found the reg entry with missing configuration:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001102-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Lan Access"
and here are some more...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001105-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX Push"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001106-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="OBEX FTP"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001112-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="Headset Audio Gateway"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001124-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB]
@="HID"
Anyone knows enough of these entries?

just add those to your device, apply the other things from msdn you've found and restart your device. then scan your ppc on the pc for open services...

I have found a workaround
I'm the happy owner of an MDA Compact and a Siemens blue2net access point. Indeed, the Microsoft Bluetooth stack refused to talk to the access point, which only offers the "Lan Access" profile.
I tried the suggested registry hack. Good idea, but sadly it does not work. It would appear that the "Lan Access" profile is simply not supported by the Bluetooth stack - it has not just been disabled by deleting a few registry entries
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
After installing the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, I simply had to do a soft reset to activate it. Big surprise for me: my MDA still worked. Clicking the Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status bar now told me that my toy had no Bluetooth support; however, clicking the new Toshiba Bluetooth icon brought up a different (and better, IMHO) Bluetooth interface. From here I could see the blue2net access point. Not only that - I could actually connect to it. The rest was piece of cake: add the Bluetooth device and configure a modem connection via it. I am now happily surfing the web via Bluetooth
The only caveats I have so far are these:
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
2) When using the Toshiba Bluetooth stack, the diode above the screen does not blink blue when Bluetooth is active. A small price to pay for having internet access

i am about to do as lars_juhl has stated on my xda II knowning that he messed with mda compact and i have a xda II but still i am going to do as he has stated will let you guys know wat happens.
FINGERS CROSSED !!

ok ive downloaded bluetooth stack v3.10.00 from the link that you've given and after extracting the contents of the zipped file on my desktop i have.
1.QFE (FOLDER)
2.SD_HOST_driver (Folder)
3.us (Folder)
4.AutoAns (Exe)
5.AutoOn (Exe)
6.AutoSetup (Config File I Guess)
7.lmgLoad.dll
8.Setup (Exe)
9.TbpSetup (Exe)
10.TbpSetup (Config)
11.TosBtLoad.dll
12.Uninstall
care to tell me which is the file that you installed on your pda as a bluetooth profile and i shall follow you.
regards
jeetz

I think you're supposed to download the 'Pocket PC 2002 / Windows Mobile 2003' bluetooth stack. This shows version 5.01.
Goodluck.

@lars_juhl ??
help needed here

Re: I have found a workaround
lars_juhl said:
However, I found a workaround. After a few hours of fighting with the Microsoft stack, I downloaded a free Bluetooth stack from Toshiba (http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/) that supports the "Lan Access" profile. I did a full backup of my MDA Compact, adopted the "brace position", and prepared for a crash landing (aka hard reset).
1) I now have a disfunctional Microsoft Bluetooth icon in the status line. I would like to get rid of that. Please drop me a note if someone knows how to do that.
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Hi,
I've one question:
(a) Apart from Internet access, do you have other BT functions working?
e.g. Headset/Handsfree, BT ActiveSync??
The BT Tray Icon can be removed by deleting this registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTIcon]
then reboot.
If you don't wish to remove the key, you can disable it by editing this parameter value under the registry key
change
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll" to
"Dll"="BTIcon_Dll.dll.disabled"
then reboot. When WM2003SE tries to load the Dll driver, it can't find it and therefore the MS BT system tray icon will not be activated.

The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php

Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin

andrewpmoore said:
The download is here:
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
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i did that mate downloaded the english version compatible with xp, but i wanna find out after downloading and extracting it which is the file that i am suppose to run so that the stack is installed on my pda ?

....my bt headset was recognized an paired (anycom headset) ... but is NOT working when calling...

thinksmart said:
Works great on my MDA Compact too (DLINK BT-900ap).
Many thanks for this idea.
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn on/off the bluetooth radio once this stack has been installed ? I have the feeling that it is always on, consuming precious energy...
BTW has anyone tried headsets with this stack. Do they work ?
Thanks agian,
Martin
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Yeah, I have the same question.
And one more: After turning off/on toshiba bt icon disappers. How to fix it?

it works for me but how can i turn bluetooth off ?!! i think it goes ON all the time

Yeah, the BT icon is disappearing after turning the device off as well as sometimes ramdomly.
The set-up app (bt_setup) cannot be restarted without soft reset, I get following error "An error occured with th Buetooth Card Confirm that the card is working properly."
M.

I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experience all the bugs listed in this thread) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?

BlueTooth upgrade for magician

I have recently installed Toshiba BT stack, and it works perfectly, i consider even better than Widdcom stack; but except one thing -
after switching off and than switching on my Magician the BT stack dissapears. And only Soft Reset helps.
This problem is really worth solving, let's try to do it together
Toshiba BT stack:
http://gordons095.narod.ru/str2005-01-16/files/toshiba_BT_Stack.rar
P.S. After following the link a russian site will appear and you 'll need just to click the same link again. Use MS IE to download the file, because my Opera 7.54 doesn't work.

yep and headset quality is more than terrible...and alot of profiles are missing.. btw this news is old and were still waiting for wid/broadcomm

For me this stack is much more convinient: i can connect to ActiveSync with no problems, i can transfer and receive files from any devices, i can exchange contacts and so on and so forse, and i don't have bluetooth headset.
Still, if you say it is an old program, the problem with the disapperiance of the BT icon after hybernate must have been solved.
Can you help me with this?

it has only been "partially" solved.. please use the search function to find related threads.

Can i use my Wizard as a BT audio device for another phone?

Hi, i'm looking for a way to connect my Nokia 6230 to my Wizard so that the Wizard is recognized by the Nokia as headset. Does anyone know if this is possible?
I've been looking at the widcom/broadcom stack but i couldn't get it to work yet. Insufficient memory error.
Does anyone know if this is somehow possible?

I dont think this works. However I have done the reverse using my Laptop. I used my laptop to take calls and answer them, while my PDA is in the other room! w00t

And do you think it would be possible if we get the broadcom/widcom stack running on the Wizard?

No. I dont think that has the correct services/profiles. And is it possible to get the widcomm stack on the Wizard? Doesn't it already have the microsoft stack on it?
Thanks

how did u answer the calls on your lap top??? thats awesome wanna share? thank you!
my email address is [email protected]

To be a "headset" for another device, you need the "Audio Gateway" profile.
Most desktop adapters support this profile (the Widcom stack does), so your desktop or laptop PC can be a headset for your phone. I've used this as a speakerphone when we were doing something in a class. It's pretty slick.
The Wizard does NOT have the Audio Gateway profile, so it cannot be the speakers or mic for another device.
However, SOME of the Ipaq PDA's can do this. I've done it with a Bluetooth-Equipped Ipaq, so I know that, at least in theory, it IS possible.

TomXP411 thanks. You basically explained it for beckhams777...
PDAs that are not a phone themselves are usually the ones that have this profile. If you find a device that has this profile AND uses the Widcomm stack, I may be able to extract this profile and use it on other devices also. It also depends on what version of widcomm stack they use... But, it could well be possible now that I know some other devices can do it
Thanks

I'll go searching 8)

got it! thanks anyways!

T-mobile MDA (USA version) and Bt
Ok, read all the posts, so there isn't a way to use my bt earbud with music on my MDA?
it worls great for phone, but MDA does NOT have audio gateway software
Al

When I pair with my Mac (OS X 10.4), the mac does discover bluetooth audio as a service on the wizard... however when i try to send sound, OS X states that it could not connect to the BT Audio device... So in theory it should be possible, if the service is discovered. We perhaps just need an app on the wizard that responds to the connection request...

Best Bluetooth Stack/Drivers?

Hi guys!
I have my Magician (QtekS100) for over a year now, and I've been always very happy with it. One of my best purchases ever.
It has never gave me any problem until recently when I decided to purchases a GPS Bluetooth (Nokia LD-3W) and my nightmare started.
After many days of trying things, turns out this GPS is a bit special and doesn't like all BT Drivers/Roms.
As the Normal MS drivers won't work and I have to use others.
In your opinio what is the best BT Stack software?
My magician currently is ROM 1.06.03 ESN, ExtROM 1.06.117ESN, Radio 1.05.00, Protocol 1137.39 with the Toshiba Drivers.
Should I upgrade it to a new ROM?

bchuertas said:
Hi guys!
I have my Magician (QtekS100) for over a year now, and I've been always very happy with it. One of my best purchases ever.
It has never gave me any problem until recently when I decided to purchases a GPS Bluetooth (Nokia LD-3W) and my nightmare started.
After many days of trying things, turns out this GPS is a bit special and doesn't like all BT Drivers/Roms.
As the Normal MS drivers won't work and I have to use others.
In your opinio what is the best BT Stack software?
My magician currently is ROM 1.06.03 ESN, ExtROM 1.06.117ESN, Radio 1.05.00, Protocol 1137.39 with the Toshiba Drivers.
Should I upgrade it to a new ROM?
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new blue tooth stack isnt out yet.
the old bsch stack works fine.. has a few bugs..
the toshiba stack and the Bluesoleil stack is very buggy
cya

Bluesoleil wasn't buggy for me when used for wireless internet. What I didn't like was its incompatibility with my headset. And I'm not willing to switch every time so I returned to MS. I'd love to use the new BCHS stack, but noone's got it right now.
Btw: why did you just copy & paste? Please correct it, there are only BT stacks!
Btw2: please tell me the difference between "O2 MINI NEW BLUETOOTH STOCK" and "BT STACK(BCHS)" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Chatty said:
Btw: why did you just copy & paste? Please correct it, there are only BT stacks!
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Yes, I did copy from the Subject on other posts.
As far as I know the correct word is Stack and Stock is just misspelled
Stack applies to any Implementation of networking protocols, not just bluetooth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_stack
You just got to love the Wikipedia!!! :wink:

BT Tools is the solution (for me at least)
try "bluetooth tools" this was the solution for me when I had Magician. worked for me with several BT GPS units + TomTom 5.21 and Falk/MarcoPolo Navigator 2004-2005
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

I did not have any problems with my GPS receiver with either of the stacks. And I do know what a stack is. That's why I asked you to correct the spelling mistake.

I use Bluesoleil and am half-way happy.
Unfortunatly I cannot use MS stack because after some time it gives me the error about "please turn flight mode first", even if it is off.
Anyone know how to fix this?

Re: BT Tools is the solution (for me at least)
aleksandr said:
try "bluetooth tools" this was the solution for me when I had Magician. worked for me with several BT GPS units + TomTom 5.21 and Falk/MarcoPolo Navigator 2004-2005
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
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does this support a2dp

re
best is windcomm (broadcomm)!!!!!!
who have working version for magician?
johancz

WM5 Bluetooth stack and DialUp Networking (DUN)

I'm at my wits end with my T-Mobile MDA (aka HTC Wizard) and my new 2007 Acura RDX. The car can connect to the Internet via a Bluetooth phone to send/receive diagnostic messages to Acura, but I'm pretty sure the MS Bluetooth stack is disconnecting during the setup. I'm able to pair the HTC Wizard just fine with the car, and the handsfree functionality for sending/receiving voice calls works perfectly using the JETWare mobile Bluetooth extension on the phone. I've tried doing some basic registry tweaks in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth keys, but nothing helped. I can use my Sony Ericsson T68i phone just fine with this troublesome feature, but I really don't want to start using my old phone again. Any thoughts on what might be fubared with the DUN connectivity? I'm using the same dial strings too that work just fine on my laptop with the MDA (*99#) on T-Mobile's network. Thanks in advance for suggestions...

While I don't have specific info on your car, you may want to give a try to the
1, Widcomm BT stack (instead of the MS one)
2, AKU3 and BT PAN if your car also supports PAN and not just DUN.
Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282780 on the latter q.

Thanks for the reply. I've had older Pocket PC/Windows CE devices that used Widcomm, but I was under the impression that the MS Bluetooth stack was baked into the device ROM. Do I have to reflash the HTC Wizard ROM to get the Widcomm BT stack?
RE: option #2, I'm nearly certain that the car does not support PAN, but I'll dig around and see what I can find.
Thanks again.

Hmm... I just found this wiki page:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothDUN
which mentions Bluetooth DUN problems on the Samsung SGH-X820, which I believe is using WM5 or similar variant. At any rate, it mentions a "receive all" flag, and I'd love to know if there's a registry setting in WM5 that's related to this suggestion.

flashfreaker said:
Thanks for the reply. I've had older Pocket PC/Windows CE devices that used Widcomm, but I was under the impression that the MS Bluetooth stack was baked into the device ROM. Do I have to reflash the HTC Wizard ROM to get the Widcomm BT stack?
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nope, just install the Widcomm BT stack, not even a hard reset is needed - see the sticky thread.

Thanks again for the prompt reply. I followed the How To here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
and I also used SolSie's installation guide here to fill in some gaps:
http://solsie.com/?p=82
I used the CAB file here:
http://btfix.thcgirls.com/BroadcomBluetoothStackX51V05.zip
Bluetooth functionality seems to working ok, but I don't see Dialup Networking as a service now on my HTC Wizard. Do I need to upgrade the AKU ROM? I'm using the summer 06 ROM update from T-Mobile USA right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

flashfreaker said:
Bluetooth functionality seems to working ok, but I don't see Dialup Networking as a service now on my HTC Wizard. Do I need to upgrade the AKU ROM? I'm using the summer 06 ROM update from T-Mobile USA right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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You're right - just tested this on my Wizard. No DUN service is visible- actually, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services doesn't contain any DUN service listed.
I'll tomorrow check this on my other 1.7 WM5 Widcomm-based Pocket PC's (hx4700, x51v) to see whether you can import this functionality in any way. My WM2003 iPAQ 2210 and WM2003SE PL720 lists this service; from the former (I only have this here at home in addition to my Wizard; the rest are all at work) a direct HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Widcomm\BtConfig\Services\ and [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001103-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB] didn't work though.

From what I've read on other sporadic posts, it seems that the Windows Mobile registry has a setting for enabling a "receive all" parameter for Bluetooth that fixes DUN problems. I'm sure there's a bit of a security risk in that, but I'm willing to try anything at this point.

You mean the standard BT / IrDA receive all? It's not dangerous at all - and, for that matter, it doesn't even add much to the overall power consumption, contrary the popular belief (see my related power consumption measurements)

Thanks for the reply. I read your post(s) on power consumption--excellent stuff. I can see options for IR ("Receive all incoming connections"), but not for Bluetooth, other than the discoverable option. Is there some registry parameter? That's what I'm looking--if DUN is failing during a PPP connection because a some weird rejection command, I'd like to see if there's anything I can try out to work around that.

The "Recieve incoming beams / Recieve Incoming Connections" in the IR menu in also responsible for BT file recieves. In addition to enabling the BT discoverable option, you need this to be turned on to accept file tranfers. I'm not sure about how this is going to effect DUN, but give it a shot.
This is prolly what you might have read in one of those posts that you mentioned.

BTW, the DUN service will not be offered even with the Beam Receive option enabled.
This may mean, currently, unless someone invents a way to access DUN under Widcomm, it's impossible to use Widcomm-based WM5 PPC PE devices as external dial-up modems.

Hm...
I know this is kinda off topic of DUN, but using the Axim Widcomm stack on my 8125, I loose all sound from the speaker.... anyone else encounter this?

Yes I have this problem too, can be solved just by calling someone... but then there are other problems...
1)Memory leak after turning off Bluetooth.
2)Only solution is to leave it on, but there are other issues here, for me, so far, it is my Wizard hangs(require soft reset button) or the sound of the speakers dissappears and gets redirected to the phone speaker only... after about a days use..

Hm.... well.... suck. I wish someone released a custom ROM without the MS stack

pball3485 said:
Hm.... well.... suck. I wish someone released a custom ROM without the MS stack
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but from the axim site, you can actually remove the MS stack..