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Morning all.
I have had my T-Mobile MDA Compact for just over a year now.. and its the first problem I have had.
Until this morning...
I got to a customers.. turned my MDA off.. and it didnt go off.. it just sat with a blank screen.. no backlight and "Start" in the top left.
After a lot of soft resetting.. nothing changed.
I have now done a Hard reset.. (lost everything) and still have the same problem.
The weird effect seems to be.. 20 seconds or so after the phone has booted and if I am not on a call.
IE.. I can call out... and turn the phone off and on as much as I like.. works fine.. as soon as I hang up and do it.. I get the same problem..
Blackight goes off and the entire unit freezes.
Very weird.. Does anyone have any ideas?
The next step later this evening will be to re-flash the phone.
Please help
Tom - www.mouselike.org
fixed - I think
Sprung to mind that I had not tried removing the SD card I had in the beast.
Removed it and it seems to behave itself.
The SD card was used early this morning in my HP iPaq to play an mp3... weird that it now causes my MDA to hang.
Presume the HP corrupted it and it needs formatting.
Tom - www.mouselike.org
Ok, I will try to make my probmen more clear...
I bought my Prophet (QTEK S200) in March and everything has been working fine (also bluetooth) till few weeks ago when, all of a sudden, my prophet start taking more than 4 minutes to boot. I try removing some hacks or uninstalling soem programs, but nothing. After few weeks I realise that actually also BT is not working: in comm manag, there should be an X on the BT button when turned off, but I see none; instead the BT icon is green but the blu led is not blinking. I try clicking on he BT button several times, but nothing changes: still the icon is green, no X and no blue led. I try also with SETTINGS > BLUETOOTH > MODE tab: I check the "Turn on BT" box and press ok, but nothing, because when go back to the tab the box is not checked anymore.
Yesterday I uninstalled an old version of Skype and installed the nw one, turned on my WIFI and chatted for a while: all ok. Then I open PIE and browse some sites and all of a sudden the prophet freezes. I soft reset (with the stylus) and guess what: the prophet takes less than 2 minutes to boot. I try to soft reset few more times: same fast boot. So I go and check the BT: it works properly now!!!!!
An finally I plug the USB cable to sync the prophet with Active Sync 4.2: sync is done. Then I soft reset again and guess what?!?!?! 5 minutes to boot and no BT working!!! SGRUNT!!!!!
Ok, I say, time for a hard reset: I press the two buttons on the left side and I use the stylus, press green button at prompt and hard reset starts. Guess what? The prophet takes 5 minutes to reach he windows logo and the first time wizard. I try 3 more times, same result. And when the prophet is up and running (after restore of original settings) BT is still not working...
I do not know what to think. To me it looks that the BT problem and the long boot are related. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Try the Hardreset. If the device will work well after that - it is just software problem. If no - sorry...
As i said, I tried hard reser, and still not working
thegios said:
As i said, I tried hard reser, and still not working
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Sorry, i missed that!
oh cmon, no one had the same problem?
am i the only one?
lucky me ))))
thegios said:
oh cmon, no one had the same problem?
am i the only one?
lucky me ))))
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not you alone .. me tooooo the same as you i feel that you like talk about me
its the same and im looking now for schematics for the phone
any one can help !!! please
Hi there,
i'm also having lot of troubles with my Prophet.
My opinion, but not sure as many other are using it successfully, it that it comes from the A2DP patch.
It started by the phone feature. I can't use it without using the Bluetooth headset (without headset, i have only noise in the speaker, also in the headphone plugged on the bottom). Then it started with Bluetooth that woudln't turn on. So no way to make calls anymore (shame for a phone...). And from this evening, i see issues also with WLAN!!! I can't turn it on.
Hard reset, flashing a new ROM, Radio ROM doesn't change anything.
I am desperated, i now need to flash it back to German O2 ROM and give it to repair to O2. Hoping they will not see it has been flashed with other ROM.
btw: could someone taking German <please> find me an adress for an O2 shop near Aachen? I can't find by myself on the O2 web pages. Many thanks in advance.
NO BT!!!
thegios, I exactly have the same problem, did you find a solution to your problem? NO BT, 5 minutes boot up time!!!
gvural said:
thegios, I exactly have the same problem, did you find a solution to your problem? NO BT, 5 minutes boot up time!!!
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telephone replaced... (under warranty luckly...)
it looks like the broken bluetooth affects somehow the boot procedure
Oh no... I have this exact same issue... so it must be the ad2p hack... did we all have this? My phone take 5 minutes to boot and no BT too.... exactly the same!!! check my threads~~!
I did no ad2p hack
m... so the dealer wasn't able to repair it? i already have a mother board replacement... i don't want another one...
repair? do u think that for them it's cheaper to repair than to replace?
the dealer we have here seems to beleive so... they refuse to give replacements. and all they do is provide shotty repairs so you have to keep going back. its frustrating. This phone has caused me a lot of headaches.
I bought it in a big mall, so what the shop did is to package it and send it to the dealer and in 8 days i got back my same phone with simply the WHOLE motherboard replaced, which means new rom, new mac address, new everything
only front and back cover are the same
maybe.... cos I found a tape to cover infrared, so maybe they kept nly front cover, since also the power button feels different (not it is harder to push it)
loki bluetooth problem
thegios said:
oh cmon, no one had the same problem?
am i the only one?
lucky me ))))
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myself too !!!!!
i have done all you said but same problems
i noticed that when you got windows mobile screen if you dont see the blue light
you can anyway reboot cause you wont got bluetooth at the end of the boot
when i associate a bluetooth gps, it s sucks...
anyway i m in the same s**** .
i think it's a hardware problem....
waitin for any another experiment to solve this f*** problem...
its a hardware... I installed a new rom and bluetooth worked until it was reboot... and also it would stop working when i left the phone alone for a few hours... MB had to be replaced...
my prophet also needs more than 4 minutes to boot. but my bluetooth is working and i don't see any other error. what can i do?
Hi!
I can`t find any topic like this...
1.My Hermes is stop responding aftr few minutes when I`m not using it. (Touch screen and hardware buton alsow are not working.
Only way to get it working back is reset using a stylus.
Leds`s are alsow stop flashing.
2. When scereen is "on" I hear silent beeeeeee....... - is this normal?
I have try to put few different ROM`s on it, but problem is still the same.
Can anybody help me to sort it?
Thanks in advance
abik81 said:
Hi!
I can`t find any topic like this...
1.My Hermes is stop responding aftr few minutes when I`m not using it. (Touch screen and hardware buton alsow are not working.
Only way to get it working back is reset using a stylus.
Leds`s are alsow stop flashing.
2. When scereen is "on" I hear silent beeeeeee....... - is this normal?
I have try to put few different ROM`s on it, but problem is still the same.
Can anybody help me to sort it?
Thanks in advance
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There are some tips and tricks to stop freezing and hanging. One key one is to put it into sleep mode yourself by pressing the power key NOT let it go into sleep mode by itself. Aside from that have you tried the things mentioned here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....BlogPart&partqs=cat=Hermes+Freezing%2fHanging
Mike
I have try all tips from http://michael-channon.spaces.live.c...ng%2fHanging but problem is still the same. I`m afraid it`s could be a hardware problem. I have put a light rom, there is no additional software in. Ihave also put a new batery, make test with pocket mechanic - get no more ideas. If I swith on hermes in safety mode problem is exactly the same. Sometimes system is stop responding directly after swith on, sometimes it`s take few or about 20 minutes.
Any ideas?
You could try a Hard Reset or changing the rom. Remember to back up everything first, I'd do both a contacts backup and a full backup. That way if you still have the problem after the full backup you can try a HR again but setup everything from scratch.
It may be bad blocks, so you should use MTTY to check this.
If you do decide to upgrade the rom, MAKE SURE YOU HARD SPL 1ST.....
Cheers...
Hi Everyone,
I'm having some issues with my P3600.
Sometimes (to many times in the past days) while making something on it, the image on the screen suddenly mess up (freezes and weird image) and hangs. Then after the soft reset, somethimes the image stays black, and finally on the 5\6 try it boots fine...
Also noticed that this occurs more while connecting the usb cable jack to sync...
Already make some hardresets and some rom upgrade tests... Also tryed some wm61 cooked rooms, no luck.
Anyone already got this? I think there's must be some problem on the flat cable that connects the lcd-board. Can anyone help me whit some more ideas... before I decide to open it?
Thanks In advantage
SteelwarrioR
it happens the same to me... the pixels all messed up... i dont know wath is the problembut i think its the flat cable ... becouse i have open it one time 3months ago and now its fine. now yesterday have done the same thing
sorry my english
Ok, I open it last night based on the service manual I found somewhere on the Internet, the flat cable looks fine... Now this morning this same situation occurred again, this time while unplugging the usb charger. I Think there's must be some problem on the usb connector. The usb connector is part of the main board so it could be a hardware board issue? Anyone got this on problem on Trinity? Any troubleshooting tips ideas will be appreciated...
SteelwarrioR
hi,
same here. trinity hangs up after some time, screen stays black, when i try to wake it up.
have to hard reset several times and it wont boot for some trys, then with luck the windows sometimes finaly starts. I already changed the simcard and removed the sd-storagecard.
The vodafone hotline adwised me to send it in. Seems to me like a hardware issue.
My trin is about 1 year old.
(sry for my bad english)
Andi
No solution Yet???????
hi,
same here. trinity hangs abouth 3 or 4 time a day, screen stays black, when i try to wake it up.
have to hard reset several times and it wont boot for some trys, then with luck the windows sometimes finaly starts
hi, the same to me... it's like the rom's, after a few soft reset couldn't find the necessary files to start again.... and sometimes, after meny tries, it starts well... it's like the ppc processor gets tired and goes to stand by..... it starts freezing the display, and loosing some pixels. so the only things to do is soft resetting the device... any solution? thanks
same with my htc - it appears to me that the errors occur when the trinity was used for a while and the processor was getting warm. the files and folders on the sd-card show strange symbols. but i have also problems when i stick out the sd-card completely.
i will send it to htc repair center - i just hope that they will not send it back as the errors occur only frequently.
so long,
bjoern
solution solved
take taste power and center ok reset take few sec to powering and phone starting
or power and run and stop call reset and phone starting on factory powering
not solved at all
sorry no - this is not the point - i think all guys here have (hard- and soft-) reset their Trinity more than 50x!
the problem is that once the software has crashed you can`t reset it for about 20min - it seems that the processor has to cool down or something like that - after a while (if I´m lucky) my P3600 boots as normal.
I already flashed several new roms - same problem with all of them - I`m pretty sure it`s a hardware failure.
Hello, i don't have any such problem, my Trinity runs very stable even with cooked roms. but sometimes Mobile navigator 7 takes too much memory so the System becomes instable and i have to softreset it.
Hi, mine bug also, and that's begin 2 or 3 days after I have flash to the 1.56.70.11 Radio Rom....
mine worked fine for about 1 1/2 years but suddenly it crashed continous. i havent flashed it and allready hard reseted several times on different days. sometimes it worked for a while but hangs if i started a bigger app like tomtom. vodafone told me they will exchange my p3600. now im waiting for their call
E: Got a new one today which works perfectly so far!
Hi guys,
has anyone had this issue solved without swapping the device?
I have the same problem.....
Bye
Petz
Same problem here...
I have to sftreset or hard reset several times to get it runing again...
In my opinion its some kind of problem with the processor...
Stiil i'm hoping this is a software insue... so that sone one have a hotfix for that...
For my part, when my Trinity crash, I remove the mini-SD, the SIM card and the battery. I just re put the battery, restart (soft reset until WM has realy start, and no more touch or screen freezes), I replace the sim, restart again.. and finaly I replace the mini-sd. It's very long, but generally works well
EDIT:
Finally, I better make my tongue and keep my method for me because at evening begin, my trinity crashed and impossible to turn it on until I finally come back house and have no need more...
my hand that it will crash tomorow morning juste after leave to works
hi, i started getting the same problem.
only thing different is I upgraded to wm6.1 (Mary SL)
I took it back to wm6 which was still locking, then down to wm5.
1week later no issue!
maybe the wm6+ os's needs more cpu than wm5 and causes it to overheat!
just a thought!
xpuser8334 said:
maybe the wm6+ os's needs more cpu than wm5 and causes it to overheat!
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I don't think so because I downgraded my Trinity to original WM5 and, even if there were less crashes, it crashed anyway.
Now it's still with WM5 but it doesn't start anymore, only backlight.
Ciao
Petz
I want to let you known that my Trinity has run ok for 5 hours without any issue after putting some paper between battery and metallic plate under the battery.
I had to press a little over the rear cover to have it placed correctly because the battery is higher than before.
Keep in mind that it stopped running completely 3 monthes ago, it didn't start anymore and it didn't even go into bootloader mode.
Now I'm using WinMobile 6.5 beta........
Ciao!
Petz
Hi Guys , i have Trinity P3600 in Egypt ,,, it worked perfectly for more than 2 years , but last month it make the same problem like mentioned b4 , hangs , stuck in boot image , or mess in pixel ,,, and i tried to downgrade but no luck, i tried to use different Radio ,, it works sometime , but after a week no , i tried to take out the battery and wait for 3 hours , then back again , so it works but again it hangs if i start my GPS (IGO8) or heavy programs/.
any solution pls
Thanks
Hey guys.
Haivng a problem with my Omnia and destinator 7 working together.
On standard wm6 rom worked ok till one day it stopped working properly.
When you open Destinator it would show loading screen then pause for 5secs or so then go back to main screen on phone. BUT the top task bar was gone and it showed the top part of destinaotr there. So you couldnt open it again or really do anything.
Now if i soft reset it before trying to open it and open destinator STRAAIGHT away when it reboots it works a treat.
I have recently installed a custom 6.5 row and was working fine for a few weeks and is now doing the EXACT thing.
Any suggestions at all. I have a mate with the exact phone and exact problem but his works sometimes. Mine wont open at all unless i soft reset.
Cheers
Matt