Ok, well, I guess I can blow even the simplest things. I tried to run the radio stack upgrade to 6.24 (from 6.18 ), but it hung at 10% and locked up my device. I had no choice but to reset, and you can imagine the result. I know about the SD method to recover blown OS roms, can the same be done for radio stack errors? What do I need to load onto an SD? Thanks in advance.
Heh, Ok, I figured the lack of response meant "go check the archives", which I did, but I'm still stuck at a certain point here.
I can put the default 3.14 T-Mobile ROM on my device and get it to boot, and then I can swap out the RSUpgrade files with the new T-mobile 6.24 versions. However, I still get stuck with the 1% error. No matter which version of the RSU I try to use (the default one on the 3.14 ROM that tries to load itself, both versions in the repair.zip file, 4.21, and 4.26) I get the 1% error.
I've tried using the 4.00.10 rom and the 4.00.21 rom, but I can't get past the boot screen - I can't get into the OS like I can with the 3.14. Is there some kind of trick to getting these to load?
Some novel observations I've made that I haven't seen listed elsewhere, so I'll jot them down here:
1. Though the battery will not charge, the device will stay powered with the charging cable. You can unplug it for about 5-10 seconds before the unit will die. If you're fast, that's enough to get an SD card in and out, but I've found that if you push up on the charging cable you can make enough room to slip the SD (or in my case, the slimmer MMC) card in and out while charging. So don't worry about the battery running down too much, you can stay powered.
2. When the radio stack upgrade process starts, the icon for the phone status in the blue bar disappears. Then, when the 1% appears, the icon reappears. Then, the flash fails. I think the failure is occuring due to some inability to sucessfully determine the phone status. Maybe there are settings in the bootloader I need to tinker with to get the flash to work? I am on Wallaby 5.15 (at least I read about doing OS ROM updates before I started )
Thanks all for any suggestions.
Try turning off your Radio from the bootloader with the OS that boots.
To get to this option while in bootloader mode press the calendar button then turn off the radio. It may take as long as an hour or two before the
radio will boot/turn.
Confirming that you did copy the needed upgrade files to your Windows folder and then ran the upgrade from there?
HTH
Yes, the GSM is turned off. In fact, I think that may be why the RSU won't work - it can't sense the radio, and thus can't flash it. Of course, I keep getting an error when I try to turn it back on ("GSM turn ON fail !!").
I do have the files for the 4.24 loaded in right now on the O2 3.17 ROM (that one boots for me as well). They are the ones I got from you (Qman).
Just FYI, at first I was having trouble getting the files to copy over the old ones: they were protected in ROM. But, I loaded the Resco File Explorer via cab installation, and that program lets me write over them. Just another tip for those playing along at home
Heh, Ok, latest update.
I've got T-mobile rom 4.00.21 loaded and booting, and I've got the 4.24 radio stack upgrade loaded in. My GSM is off. I am still getting the 1% error. I am just going to keep trying the update. Any suggestions at this point would be welcome. Thanks.
daveeckert said:
Heh, Ok, latest update.
I've got T-mobile rom 4.00.21 loaded and booting, and I've got the 4.24 radio stack upgrade loaded in. My GSM is off. I am still getting the 1% error. I am just going to keep trying the update. Any suggestions at this point would be welcome. Thanks.
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I Encounter this error already before when I am trying to update my QTEK from Radio Stack 4.21 to 6.24, I got a 1 % Error can not update Radio Stack. But now my QTEK is working perfectly fine. first thing I have done is to connect my Qtek in Cradle and access the files( even if it show on the screen "Radio Stack Upgrade Failed" ignore this thing and keep accessing the files). I copied all the files I need using the ActiveSync Explorer, I removed the RsUpgrade.lnk on the startup folder in windows to prevent the unit on keep updating whenever I reset my unit. Next I copied the Radio Stack Upgrade 6.24 files to the \windows directory then I reset my unit again, then I go to windows directory and run the RSUpgrade.exe then it start running, and I reach 100 %, but still my GSM is not working, it is always off, then I decided to hard reset my unit and upgrade it with 4.21, and it continue to load untill 100 % then I soft reset and it works, amazing.. Now my GSM is working fine. Hope this will help you.
I'm starting to see a pattern here, it appears that most and if not all of you
are trying to upgrade from radio stack 4.21! Is that correct, if so why?
Radio stack 4.21 is the latest radio stack for your area/region and is pretty much equal to our 6.24 / A.20.10 here in the US.
Hell radio stack 4.21 might even be newer hence the failure!
So stop all of this nonsense and keep 4.21. :wink:
Just out of curiosity what band was your radio set to before you started the upgrade?
Qman said:
I'm starting to see a pattern here, it appears that most and if not all of you
are trying to upgrade from radio stack 4.21! Is that correct, if so why?
Radio stack 4.21 is the latest radio stack for your area/region and is pretty much equal to our 6.24 / A.20.10 here in the US.
Hell radio stack 4.21 might even be newer hence the failure!
So stop all of this nonsense and keep 4.21. :wink:
Just out of curiosity what band was your radio set to before you started the upgrade?
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Hello,
I Upgrade my friend T-Mobile that he brought from US the band is 900/1900 and it is not working here, he have 6.24. then i change the band to 900/1800 and it works perfectly here, he can even use his old sim card from T-mobile. :wink:
Ok, thanks for the tips.
Qman, I wanted to upgrade to get the always on GPRS. I guess I upgraded to the always off instead
I've tried loading the 4.21 radio stack back in, but again, I'm getting the 1% error. I'm going to try and load up the 4.00.05 rom (which is what I was using before I tried to upgrade). I used adaptrom to load that, and that must've upgraded the radio stack on me (I had no intention to upgrade the radio stack from the original, but I guess it was automatic or something).
Is the version of 4.00.05 in the ROM kitchen the unadulterated version (providing I uncheck the "Add programs" box), or is it still stripped? I'm not sure if I can find the original 4.00.05 rom that I used: does anyone know where I can d/l it from again? Thanks.
rpc said:
Qman said:
I'm starting to see a pattern here, it appears that most and if not all of you
are trying to upgrade from radio stack 4.21! Is that correct, if so why?
Radio stack 4.21 is the latest radio stack for your area/region and is pretty much equal to our 6.24 / A.20.10 here in the US.
Hell radio stack 4.21 might even be newer hence the failure!
So stop all of this nonsense and keep 4.21. :wink:
Just out of curiosity what band was your radio set to before you started the upgrade?
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Hello,
I Upgrade my friend T-Mobile that he brought from US the band is 900/1900 and it is not working here, he have 6.24. then i change the band to 900/1800 and it works perfectly here, he can even use his old sim card from T-mobile. :wink:
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So that means you changed the radio stack right! If so what did you change/upgrade it to? Because radio stack 6.24 only supports GSM 900
Europe and 1900 North America.
daveeckert said:
Ok, thanks for the tips.
Qman, I wanted to upgrade to get the always on GPRS. I guess I upgraded to the always off instead
I've tried loading the 4.21 radio stack back in, but again, I'm getting the 1% error. I'm going to try and load up the 4.00.05 rom (which is what I was using before I tried to upgrade). I used adaptrom to load that, and that must've upgraded the radio stack on me (I had no intention to upgrade the radio stack from the original, but I guess it was automatic or something).
Is the version of 4.00.05 in the ROM kitchen the unadulterated version (providing I uncheck the "Add programs" box), or is it still stripped? I'm not sure if I can find the original 4.00.05 rom that I used: does anyone know where I can d/l it from again? Thanks.
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Confirming that with ROM 4.00.05 you're doing a SD card install or a .exe install from your PC? Also how were you doing the re-install of radio stack 4.21? PC install or did you copy the files over to the Windows folder and run the upgrade from for the device?
As far as the kitchen goes I believe if you leave off/uncheck Add Software and modify ROM you'll get an unadulterated ROM.
Yes, when I went to 4.00.05 the first time, I used the .exe method with a rom package I got from Yorch's website. I guess it automatically updated my radio stack when I installed it, since it went to 4.21 and I didn't run a separate update that I know of. Before that, I was running the latest official T-mobile ROM (3.14).
Since that initial OS upgrade, I have been using the SD method to swap ROMs around. (Again, I'm still on Wallaby 5.15.)
For the 4.21 upgrade, I've been doing the PC install. The version of the 4.21 RSU I downloaded was in a cab, so I just that the installer take care of it for me. For the 6.24 I got from you, I copied the files directly to the \windows directory.
Ah, poop. I was poking around in the forums some more and found the bootloader info page. I think I may have screwed my unit up worse than I thought.
In the process of trying to get my radio to turn off/on, I hit pretty much every option under the GSM menu, including GSM reset. Do you think that might have killed it?
daveeckert said:
Yes, when I went to 4.00.05 the first time, I used the .exe method with a rom package I got from Yorch's website. I guess it automatically updated my radio stack when I installed it, since it went to 4.21 and I didn't run a separate update that I know of. Before that, I was running the latest official T-mobile ROM (3.14).
Since that initial OS upgrade, I have been using the SD method to swap ROMs around. (Again, I'm still on Wallaby 5.15.)
For the 4.21 upgrade, I've been doing the PC install. The version of the 4.21 RSU I downloaded was in a cab, so I just that the installer take care of it for me. For the 6.24 I got from you, I copied the files directly to the \windows directory.
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Ok check and see if you have a RSUpgrade link in your Startup folder, if so remove it. Now do a search/find for the below 4.21 upgrade files and if by chance they're not in your Windows folder move them there and run RSUpgrade.
RSUpgrade.exe
RSUpgrade.cp64
monitor_ul_bs.map
monitor_ul_bs.m0
Ok, thanks for the tips. I think I've done that, but I will do it again tonight (at work now, and don't have the device with me).
Also, just FYI, I am in the US with T-mobile service. If I try to upgrade to the AT&T A.20.10 version, my phone won't work on Tmobile anymore, correct? Or will it?
daveeckert said:
Ok, thanks for the tips. I think I've done that, but I will do it again tonight (at work now, and don't have the device with me).
Also, just FYI, I am in the US with T-mobile service. If I try to upgrade to the AT&T A.20.10 version, my phone won't work on Tmobile anymore, correct? Or will it?
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- it'll work just fine, if not better!
I've used it with some good results myself.
Qman said:
rpc said:
Qman said:
I'm starting to see a pattern here, it appears that most and if not all of you
are trying to upgrade from radio stack 4.21! Is that correct, if so why?
Radio stack 4.21 is the latest radio stack for your area/region and is pretty much equal to our 6.24 / A.20.10 here in the US.
Hell radio stack 4.21 might even be newer hence the failure!
So stop all of this nonsense and keep 4.21. :wink:
Just out of curiosity what band was your radio set to before you started the upgrade?
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Hello,
I Upgrade my friend T-Mobile that he brought from US the band is 900/1900 and it is not working here, he have 6.24. then i change the band to 900/1800 and it works perfectly here, he can even use his old sim card from T-mobile. :wink:
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So that means you changed the radio stack right! If so what did you change/upgrade it to? Because radio stack 6.24 only supports GSM 900
Europe and 1900 North America.
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I Updated his T-Mobile 6.24 to 4.21 so he can use his XDA here. :?
Ok, well, despite my best efforts and all of the advice I've been given, I am still unable to get past the 1% error. For some reason, my unit will just not flash, regardless of RSU or OS I am using. It might be because of messing with the settings in the bootloader, so beware of that if you are or will be in a similar situation
I would like to thank everyone for their help.
Looks like I get to "dance" with tech support at T-mobile. Wish me luck
rpc said:
I Encounter this error already before when I am trying to update my QTEK from Radio Stack 4.21 to 6.24, I got a 1 % Error can not update Radio Stack. But now my QTEK is working perfectly fine. first thing I have done is to connect my Qtek in Cradle and access the files( even if it show on the screen "Radio Stack Upgrade Failed" ignore this thing and keep accessing the files). I copied all the files I need using the ActiveSync Explorer, I removed the RsUpgrade.lnk on the startup folder in windows to prevent the unit on keep updating whenever I reset my unit. Next I copied the Radio Stack Upgrade 6.24 files to the \windows directory then I reset my unit again, then I go to windows directory and run the RSUpgrade.exe then it start running, and I reach 100 %, but still my GSM is not working, it is always off, then I decided to hard reset my unit and upgrade it with 4.21, and it continue to load untill 100 % then I soft reset and it works, amazing.. Now my GSM is working fine. Hope this will help you.
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I've got the same problem as you have had. I've got non working radio stack on my PDA and flashing stops at 1% (ver 4.21). Where can I find RSU ver 6.24? Please send it to me on my mail [email protected] or give me any link. Thanks in advance.
Go over to yorch.net: under "Upgrades", he has the latest O2, AT&T, and T-mobile radio stack updates. You will want T-mobile if you want the 6.24 stack. Good luck.
I have a SX56
ROM Ver: A.20.17ENG
ROM Date: 5/15/03
radio Ver A.20.10
Protocol ver: 324e4
& one thats
ROM: 3.14.03 ENG
Radio: 6.12
How would I go about unlocking them. I could ot usse that program. I got error mess error getting unlockcode. Is there any other way to unlock them.
Try to upgrade the ROM to 3.17 from this site and it will unlock your device with the first boot
www.xda-developers.com/SER/
Good luck ...
I'm sure this is a dum ? but do see a link to download the update. I saw the part that talked about having a box and dont have all of that. Could someone hook me up with the update.
Joker said:
I'm sure this is a dum ?
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Actually, there's enough smoke and mirrors involved in all of this that you'll quickly learn there are no dumb questions.
First, go to a site that is running a "ROM kitchen" and cook up a ROM, such as:
http://kitchen.romanweb.com/kitchen/index.php
Create a 3.17.03 ROM with no config data and uncheck all of the optional software, so you have an absolutely bare-bones 3.17.03 OM with no frills.
Second, Find some way to back up your existing ROM, either onto an SD card or onto your computer.
Third, install the 3.17 ROM on your XDA. Many here prefer the SD card method of loading; I took my chances just using the .exe with the device in the USB cradle with no problems. Once loaded, when you boot up, it will say "Your Device's SIM appears to be locked, would you like to unlock it?" You simply select "yes" and that's that... I literally had the 3.17 ROM on my device for all of one boot and no more than 20 seconds. Then load your existing ROM or a newly "cooked" feature-laden ROM from one of the kitchens back on to your device and you're back in "bidness."
I too made the journey from ATTWS to T-Mo and with a little luck, and a little help from people here, it went very smoothly.
Everyone here has a different level of experience, both on matters technical and matters XDA, so don't be afraid to ask any questions you might have so you have a clear picture of the whole process before you start.
-Max
Thanks for all of your help guys. Got it too work
Kitchen ROM Errors
Hello all,
I have been reading all day on the forum, as am an SX56 owner (former AT&T) now with T-Mobile and want to get it working and unlocked on their network.
I cooked up the 3.17 ROM as an executable, and downloaded the rom.exe file.
Each time I run it, it starts up the DOS window, then the Uploader Software, then gives me an Error 007 Dialog window, Cannot find the ROM image to upgrade your Pocket PC. Please download and try again.
I have tried this three times now, but cannot get to the 3.17 so I can unlock, and get to WM2003 and the new radio stack for T-Mobile.
HELP!!!! Thanks
Hello ..
It seems you do need to try the SD card method. Either to get SD card and reader/writer and cook your new ROM as .nb1 file, or to get a SD backup for the ROM from any other t-mobile device.
Mad Max,
1st, how do you back up your current ROM? Please provide step by step procedure.
2nd, How do you load your original ROM back in? When you load back your original ROM, does the phone get locked again?
3rd, it looks like you've done what I want to do, can you please provide a step by step on how you installed the 3.17 ROM on the XDA using the USB cradle?
Thanks in advance.
I was running ROM 3.20.06 and Radio 4.21.00.
I read everything on here about upgrading to ROM 4.00.05 and figured that I was ready to upgrade. Many others experienced no problems when upgrading from 3.20.06 to 4.00.05.
The upgrade procedure was complete and I hard reset.
The XDA turned on and a white screen with "Test Only", "Not For Sale", A Microsoft Windows Powered logo and the Platform information appears and that is all that happens. In other words, it is ****ed and won't do anything.
Does anyone know whether ROMs can be installed via, LTP1 seeing as though the USB will not communicate? Will I get the same problem?
A reply would be nice.
Forgot to mention...
I forgot to mention that I will be connecting my USB cradle to a USB-2-LTP1 cord. If that helps anyone reply then sweet.
Get yourself an sd card reader writer and an sd card of 64 meg or more. Use the tools on the forum to program the rom to sd card, then you enter bootloader mode and your phone will burn the rom from there. As for the lpt port, no way that I know of.
Bootloader mode?
:roll:
Is it possible to change the XDA into bootloader mode if the XDA is not functional? (I cannot do anything, just a white screen is what I see)
Give it 15-20 minutes
I know that this sounds stupid, but don't mess with it for about 15-20 minutes. It seems that if the radio stack is screwed, the OS takes forever to boot. I have been doing OS installs for several months, both directly and via an SD card, so I was comfortable with the process. I had NOT ever done a radio stack upgrade as I had the latest (& only one) that AT&T had released. With the "official" rollout of WM2003 by AT&T, I decided that I liked my custom 2003 ROM that I had cooked a couple of months ago, but I did want to try the newer radio stack. Well, all hell broke loose. At first, I had a PPC that would not boot. So, I did a new flash of the OS via SD chip. It seemed that it too was locked (ie the initial splash screen with OS info at bottom and then it seemed to freeze). Then I read in another thread that someone had noticed it took about 15 minutes for the thing to reboot after a failed radio stack upgrade. And so after giving it time, sure enough, my PPC did finally boot.
The bad news is that I have NOT been able to get the radio stack reinstalled. I have followed all the tips and suggestions, but no luck. If you find that yours finally does boot, then goto start, settings,system info and see if there is info about the radio stack. If it is blank, then you have not radio stack and that is why the long boot cycle.
Radio stack
Ok, when I performed the upgrade, I believe it was only the ROM that upgraded. The radio version is the orignial XDA upgrade which was released to the public as a genuine radio (B) upgrade. I'll look into the SD boot load. Will it automatically install from the SD card? Anyone got any idea?
How can im flash MDA with SDCARD wifhout active sync
you don't need active sync to use the SD method ... maybe you better retype your question
i have upgraded my XDA I for wm2003 .... does it upgraded the radio stack as well or i have to do that in seprate way ? if yes then where can i get the radio rom and to upgrade it
Press hold power with soft reset, then if you SD has images, it will confirm you to download to upgrade your XDA I, if empty it will flash your XDA I images to SD..that all.....
Try your best XDA I never expire. but MDA = XDA
sunpower said:
i have upgraded my XDA I for wm2003 .... does it upgraded the radio stack as well or i have to do that in seprate way ? if yes then where can i get the radio rom and to upgrade it
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Sunpower,
If your GSM part is working fine in your device I recommend from you not to upgrade it. Lots of ppl here has dead devices cos of that upgrade.
Make a search about Failed Rsu upgrade and read what happened to them , believe me you wont touch this part of upgrade.
same ramram
don't try to upgrade RSU if old versions still ok.....because now i already have 2 dead xda in my hand ..... i garantee ramram idea.....
Radio ROM on SD - Anyone?
Hi all
I've got an O2 XDA with broken radio ROM from my friend. I also have my AT&T SX56 running normally (with cooked 4.01.16 ENG OS and 6.12 radio ROM).
I've tried re-flashing the dead O2 XDA radio ROM (by running RSUpgrade.exe inside WM2003 or 2002) without any success. It seems to me that a SD radio ROM flashing is a good way to try. But I can not get my SX56's radio ROM on SD card, since the device keeps asking me to connect a RS232 cable and run PC monitor when I try to create CD + GSM dump on SD card, using boot loader options.
Question:
- Is the any way to create radio ROM upgrade SD card, using XDATools or similar tools, and radio upgrading files (those file that come with RSUpgrade.cab, for example), or
- Could anybody provide me an image of such a SD card, or
- How can I dump GSM ROM form my SX56 to SD card, without RS232 cable and PCMonitor
Current soft/hardware info:
My SX56 is running 5.15 boot loader, cooked 4.01.16 ENG OS and 6.12 radio ROM
The dead O2 XDA is running 5.15 boot loader, cooked 4.01.16 ENG OS (could be changed to any version)
Thank you for reading.
Tuan
Alright so I had a working Mobile 6 ROM on my HTC 8125 it was the Touch ROM, so I tried doing a hard reset one day by pressing the send key to format and it says formatting then FAT Format Failed or what not.
So I reflashed it with a different ROM as the Touch one wouldn't work anymore saying I needed a newer Touch ROM to flash it to my phone. It's running IPL 3.08 and 3.08 SPL not sure if that means I have to downgrade back to 2.x IPL/SPL. However so I got a new ROM flashed to it and it just sits at the booting screen for that ROM even though it successfully flashed. So once again I try the format and it says failed again.
What exactly are you asking for?
I've flashed my tmobile MDA a few times, but i'm no expert.. From what i've read, I believe the SPL/IPL version has to be specific for each ROM. The older one's have to start from scratch at 1.0x SPL/IPL, while the WM6 ROMs seem to be using the 2.0x version IPL/SPL.
What I'm trying to figure out is why it wont flash it's a unlocked phone and it says it flashes just fine goes to 100% reboots and gets stuck at the IPL/SPL OS Screen then if I do the voice dial / other button where it says press send to reset it says FAT Format Failed so I assume the WM6 isn't working right ive tried a few different ones too.
what I suggest is reflashing to your original wm5 rom, and moving on from there
Do you have a Link it's the Cingular 8125 HTC
Anyone? I've tried searching for the original ROM but cant find it.
So am I to understand no one has any clue where to get the original ROM? I've seen it on here before but the search feature is quite useless.
How about going to the source??
newbie2 said:
How about going to the source??
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Hmm well that was too convinent didn't think of that. Now to hopefully see if that works. If not anyone have sugestions on what would cause this? The device is completely unlocked. Pretty much what happens is no matter what ROM it is, it gets stuck at the IPL / SPL / OS Screen and doesn't go any further. But I'm still waiting on the origional ROM download which is going slow as hell. So hopefully that will do it.
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Origional ROMS now on it
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
Cingular Screen still sits there and doesn't load, freaking crappy ass Windows product just another reason why I got a different phone.
I faced similar problem ("Format is failed") this morning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305453&page=3
After searching with the key words on the forum I found this very helpful to me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963&highlight=format+is+failed
Cheers!
Just my luck I left my SD card for the phone at work (which I won't be back at for 3 weeks) bah.