T-Mobile USA GPRS... I am confused - Networking

Hi,
as the free GPRS T-Mobile USA service seem to have stopped a couple days ago... for me at least... I was wondering which T-Mobile Add-on plan will get me this feature back... I want GPRS speed... not WAP/GSM... seems like T-Mobile has some confusing plan options... there are:
t-zones Pro , $9.99, (I assume that this is WAP/GSM only)
BlackBerry Unlimited Add-on ($19.99), (This says it has unlimited web browsing included, but what kind? And I really don't need the Blackberry service... I am fine with POP).
HotSpot Unlimited Service , $19.99, (This seems to be for the Wi-Fi network only... or is there GPRS with this?... if so, then I would prefer this plan)
Sidekick Unlimited Data Service, $20, (I assume this is for standalone sidekick units... but then again, I am not sure...)
I currently have a MDAIII/I-mate PDA2K.
I would really appreciate if someone could clarify this for me...
Treo

call tmo service tell them that you would like the HP H6315 sevice plan, look at tmo web site for the minutes that you need.
for $80/month I have 1000 minutes, unlimited GPRS-SMS messages-WiFi hotspots which can also be used with your laptop also!
Tell them that at&t is willing to work with you. I got them to credit me $100, 1 month of free service and the HP service plan.
If you within 7 days of your phone purchase you can get the tmo insurance for your phone. It is $4/month to insure your $900+ device.

paulmc said:
call tmo service tell them that you would like the HP H6315 sevice plan, look at tmo web site for the minutes that you need.
for $80/month I have 1000 minutes, unlimited GPRS-SMS messages-WiFi hotspots which can also be used with your laptop also!
Tell them that at&t is willing to work with you. I got them to credit me $100, 1 month of free service and the HP service plan.
If you within 7 days of your phone purchase you can get the tmo insurance for your phone. It is $4/month to insure your $900+ device.
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That's great that T-mobile agree with your demand.
But anyway, on phone insurance it would be cheaper to go with your car or house insurance and add it on that policy. I am with State Farm Insurance and I ask them if I could add my personal stuff to get insured. I have MDA-II ($800 insured) and they agree to put it on. I have to pay $30 a year which is less than $3 a month.
So you could ask your insurance if they do that also.
Sorry kind of out of the topic here but good stuff to know!

Hi,
I really don't care so much about the insurance part... I have a pretty good international coverage that covers pretty much anything I own... I really need to know which plan I should get...
Treo

I have a $500 deductable on my house insurance and the tmo stuff is $75 ded. if claimed within 30 days and only $35 if you wait a month. I gues they assume that some people may get their phone back if they wait the month and then cancel the claim.
I expense my phone bill to work so I didn't mind the extra money.
Don't forget about your deductable though!!!!

Anyone else got a suggestion on the actual plan to chose? Come on...

it depends on what you do and what you need. I talked them into putting me on the HP ipaq plan that included unlimited GPRS, unlimited txt, and the kicker, unlimited TMobile Hotspots. Its a user account not connected to any particular device so you can take your laptop to the airport or starbucks.
$80/month for 1000 minutes so your its basically costing you $40/ month for all the data. But then again you won't ever download to much and get charged for it!

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just got a 8525

ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
Jc61990 said:
ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
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What we have for text, email, and the internet...........? What? You need to reword what you're saying.
What plan should i get from AT&T. for this phone device, i already have, Phone Service.. i need a secondary plan for Internet and stuff
I don't know what AT&T's plans are looking like these days, but I have mediamax 200. It gives me unlimited internet and 200 texts a month for $15. Although I think the regular price is more like $20.
im looking at this plan for 39.99 extra
PDA Personal Max
PDA Connect Unlimited data usages plus 1500 integrated Bolt-on for PDA devices only.
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You need a compatible plan and phone to get this service.
but whats bolt-on?
Jc61990 said:
ok so i just got a 8525 from cingular... i havnt chosen a extra service plan yet for .. like text, email, internet and so on... i was wondering what you guys/girls might have so i can get ideas, and what is not needed on some of their plans
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Return it and get the 8925 (Kaiser/ TYTN II/ TILT). You should qualify for a free one if its within 30 days.
got it off ebay so i doubt it
When I got my plan Cingular offered 4 internet plans:
$20 - unlimited data
$40 - unlimited data
$60 - unlimited data
$80 - unlimited data
It was a pretty hard choice.
The only difference between cheap and expensive is that you get to use isp.cingular as your access point instead of wap.cingular.
yea i got the PDA Personal Max Unlimited for 49.99 it gives me unlimited Internet and Text Messanging

Heads Up (Canadian) Telus Subscribers

Before our American friends feel compelled to post how the Sprint SERO plan is all this and all that, here is a link to the SERO page. Yeah, we know all about it.
Some of you may or may not be aware, but Bell has introduced a 7$ unlimited data plan. For the longest time I have been nagging Telus to get with the times concerning data going all the way up to the Head Office. Now that Bell has beat them to it, they are suddenly in a negotiating mood. Here is what a simple phone call to customer service got me for 34$ a month:
- Unlimited Data (no restrictions, tethering or otherwise)
- Free incoming calls US & Canada
- 250 anytime minutes
- 100 text messages
- Voicemail 25
- Caller ID
If Rogers can get into the 21st Century, I will have to remove my signature
borealcool said:
Before our American friends feel compelled to post how the Sprint SERO plan is all this and all that, here is a link to the SERO page. Yeah, we know all about it.
Some of you may or may not be aware, but Bell has introduced a 7$ unlimited data plan. For the longest time I have been nagging Telus to get with the times concerning data going all the way up to the Head Office. Now that Bell has beat them to it, they are suddenly in a negotiating mood. Here is what a simple phone call to customer service got me for 34$ a month:
- Unlimited Data (no restrictions, tethering or otherwise)
- Free incoming calls US & Canada
- 250 anytime minutes
- 100 text messages
- Voicemail 25
- Caller ID
If Rogers can get into the 21st Century, I will have to remove my signature
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:| Wow... I thought the $15 unlimited IM and Email plan was pretty good. How long have you been a customer and are you on a contract?
Thanks for the heasup!
I've been with Telus for 3 years and not on a contract, but it makes no difference. The CSR told me the Canadian wireless landscape is undergoing major changes and Telus wants to make sure all their customers take advantage of it. If you've got a PDA phone, give them a call
hey borealcool, just out of curiosity, what exactly did you say to them that convinced them to set you up with such a sweet package? And who did you talk to? I called them today (611) asking if there was anything that could be done but got nothing...i'm still stuck with the crappy $25 for 4MB plan...any help would be great. thanks
I called with the firm intention of moving to Bell saying they have an unlimited data package for 7$. The lady transfered me to another department (customer retentions?) where another lady picked up. She told me Bell's offer came with built-in restrictions and I said what, tethering? She said yes at which point I said that's not a problem, I've got friends on the Internet who can help me hack that. She said I know
Anyways to make a long story short she told me the Canadian wireless landscape is changing with deregulation, competitive prices etc. and asked what would satisfy my needs. I told her about Sprint's SERO packages (she knew about that too) and after looking at my calling pattern she said I never went over 250 outgoing minutes and 100 text messages. I said that would be fine along with unlimited data and she set me up
The plan I got is not advertised, but I think 2008 will see major announcements from wireless providers and why not? Bell, Rogers and Telus are all residential ISPs offering unmetered data and extending it to their wireless packages simply makes sense. I my case, I use data for communications and surfing the web which hardly consumes bandwidth. The teenager next door might download gigabytes of MP3s, but my low consumption balances it out and they know this.
this $7 unlimited data plan is a farse. its false advertising. the touch and all other windows mobile phones are data devices. the plan is unlimited mobile browser. i checked and thought i wasnt being billed for data... the only limitation to the plan being tethering, which i wasnt doing. long story short after a weekend of data use i had racked up $19,000 in data charges. (not a typo). check my thread for full story details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1727454
Following borealcool's post, I called Telus and see what it's all about. I was very straight forward with the representatives telling them I read on a forum about the unlimited offer. The 2nd rep I talked to was fully aware of it and explained it was intended for new subscribers and renewals (something of that nature). But still, they kindly gave me the plan eventhough I've been with Telus for just few months. So I can confirm that they do have an unadvertised deal where for 15$/month, you get unlimited Web. But it doesn't apply to tethering as borealcool stated.
Finally!!! I now have unlimited Web from my phone so I don't have to worry about busting my limit! Thanks borealcool for the tip!
Good on you lugom,
As stated above, what I got is not an advertised plan. It's Canadian providers waking up to the fact their ridiculous price gouging can no longer be sustained. It's extremely surprising that Bell set the ball rolling, but I think the Conservative government also had something to do with it by announcing their intention to deregulate the market. The last thing providers want is American competition!
EDIT: Btw, what you said about not having to worry about busting your limit is DEAD ON. I'm not a heavy data user, but I've got enough stress in my life without having to worry about my cell phone's data consumption!
Hey guys,
Just an update...Tried again today and had no luck. The CSR told me that they couldn't do anything about my plan because the $15 unlimited email and im is only available to the touch and two other phones that aren't the p4000. He also said that it's only available to new clients with new activations.
I'm guessing they're like this because:
-I'm only 7 months into my 3 year contract
-I can't prove that other people with a p4000 have the unlimited data plan
-I'm completely missing something...
I know a guy on howardforums mentioned that while talking to the CSR he gave them a phone number of another guy that had a p4000 with the unlimited data plan and they were able to give him the same plan...
ji1386 said:
Hey guys,
Just an update...Tried again today and had no luck. The CSR told me that they couldn't do anything about my plan because the $15 unlimited email and im is only available to the touch and two other phones that aren't the p4000. He also said that it's only available to new clients with new activations.
I'm guessing they're like this because:
-I'm only 7 months into my 3 year contract
-I can't prove that other people with a p4000 have the unlimited data plan
-I'm completely missing something...
I know a guy on howardforums mentioned that while talking to the CSR he gave them a phone number of another guy that had a p4000 with the unlimited data plan and they were able to give him the same plan...
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They are hardballing you and you have two choices:
1. Live with what you have.
2. Hardball back.
If option #2 is in your blood, here's what you do but be prepared to terminate your contract at the cost of 580$ (20$ per month of remaining contract). In any case it will cost more than that in overages so you don't have much to lose. Your P4000 should fetch a minimum of 200$ on eBay. We have number portability in Canada now so if keeping your number is important that's not a problem either...
Rule #1: Remain courteous, patient and polite. CSRs have no gripe against you and most want to help. Call them saying you want to terminate your contract to go with Bell's unlimited data plan. The CSR will transfer you to another, rinse & repeat. The next CSR will either offer unlimited data or, if s/he knows what they are doing, will suggest you sign up with Bell first to transfer your number without interruption of service.
Good luck!
I got the plan!!!!! It took me three days and about 8 reps but finally the last one said yes. Basically what they gave me was the talk to me 30 plan as well as the $15 unlimited messaging and email that now includes data (the data part is unadvertised). I am happy now.
My story called the other day and was flat out told "no". Asked for a supervisor and they said one would call me back.No call from a supervisor yesterday so I called first thing this morning went straight to account cancellations and told Aneshia that I want to cancel my account and get the Bell Touch (BTW I don't even have Bell in my area lol), and that a supervisor was supposed to call me back and never did. She went ahead and offered to look into getting the $15 unlimited plan added and came back after about 2 minutes and said that she would apply it and that I had to change my voice plan becuase my contract says I must spend a minimum of $45/ month. So I got the talk to me $30 plan which inlcludes more than what I get with the base Talk and Email for $45. Thanks "borealcool" for paving the way!
jjlwork said:
I got the plan!!!!! It took me three days and about 8 reps but finally the last one said yes. Basically what they gave me was the talk to me 30 plan as well as the $15 unlimited messaging and email that now includes data (the data part is unadvertised). I am happy now.
My story called the other day and was flat out told "no". Asked for a supervisor and they said one would call me back.No call from a supervisor yesterday so I called first thing this morning went straight to account cancellations and told Aneshia that I want to cancel my account and get the Bell Touch (BTW I don't even have Bell in my area lol), and that a supervisor was supposed to call me back and never did. She went ahead and offered to look into getting the $15 unlimited plan added and came back after about 2 minutes and said that she would apply it and that I had to change my voice plan becuase my contract says I must spend a minimum of $45/ month. So I got the talk to me $30 plan which inlcludes more than what I get with the base Talk and Email for $45. Thanks "borealcool" for paving the way!
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Excellent
I get the feeling they weren't ready for Bell's announcement, after all Bell & Rogers were 20 times more expensive than Telus for data. Watching Telus announcements in 2008 should prove interesting
borealcool said:
Excellent
I get the feeling they weren't ready for Bell's announcement, after all Bell & Rogers were 20 times more expensive than Telus for data. Watching Telus announcements in 2008 should prove interesting
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Yeah she did mention one of the reasons they will give it to me is that they are pretty sure they will be expanding the deal to other devices in the future.
well boys,
i have called Bell about 5 times trying to get them to give me something i can be happy with.
right now i'm paying $100 for my data plan which includes 1gb. that's wayyyyy too much and i told them about the Telus $15 plan. they refused me and i terminated my contract with them as of next month. so anyone that wants to buy a Bell 6800 leave me a msg.
screw Bell to Hell!! and i was a loyal customer for 5 years!
im gonna miss my phone number
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im gonna miss my phone number
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You don't have to. If you subscribe with another carrier before the end of your contract with Bell, you can ask the new carrier to carry you current phone number with them. It's almost instantaneous. That's a law in Canada now. That's what I did when I went from Fido to Telus this summer. And, if data is really a must have for you, you can always go with Telus and ask for the 15$ unlimited data plan explaining your coming from competition (and still retain your number.) If they say they can only give the plan if you choose the Touch (and if you don't want this device), insist on the fact that you know peoples that owns P4000 and got this very plan with their current device. I know I do, as many others.
lugom said:
You don't have to. If you subscribe with another carrier before the end of your contract with Bell, you can ask the new carrier to carry you current phone number with them. It's almost instantaneous. That's a law in Canada now. That's what I did when I went from Fido to Telus this summer. And, if data is really a must have for you, you can always go with Telus and ask for the 15$ unlimited data plan explaining your coming from competition (and still retain your number.) If they say they can only give the plan if you choose the Touch (and if you don't want this device), insist on the fact that you know peoples that owns P4000 and got this very plan with their current device. I know I do, as many others.
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cool thanks. is there anyway i could use my Bell 6800 on the Telus network?
Illimited data plan still going on?
Hi,
6 months later, do anyone of you still have the 15$ illimited data plan? I've called Telus and they tell me there's no illimited data with this plan...8$/Mb!!!???
Thanks for your help
JF
Anyone could reply so I can call back Telus...please...
I asked Telus Mobility to add it to my existing contract Dec 2007 with my PPC-6700(Apache), Feb 2008 I've moved to a PPC-6800/P4000(Titian), contract will end Apr 2009.
The bill still states "Unlt'd Personal Email & IM 15", I'm using about a 100megs of data and about 10megs tether data a month.
Yes, I'm still on the $15 ulimited data plan and it's F$%^ amazing, I never thought I would use that much data but when its unlimited.
The deal started in July 2007 if you had a $45 voice plan, about 4 years of existing service they could add the $15 unlimited data any phone other than Blackberry's. Oct 2007 to counter Bell's offer the voice requirement drop to $30 and still no Blackberry.
In late March 2008 co-work recently tried to sign up for the plan but no go the offer expired in Feb 2008 and he's been a 11 year customer of Telus. This is the standard offer now http://www.telusmobility.com/bc/plans/pcs/email_all.shtml
The only thing to do is drop everything and move to Bell for the HTC Touch and $7 data or wait for the iPhone to start some more competition.
I still would like the $7 from Bell Mobility but it's locked to the HTC Touch and non-pda phone. I've asked Bell if I purchased the HTC Touch with $7 data could I switch to another phone while retaining the data. NO NO NO they will charge you standard data rates.
GOOD LUCK
Thanks for your info. I can't find that 7$ data plan you're talking about on Bell's website though. The cheapest plan I see is 15$/month and its not illimited: 2 Mo/month!!! Are you in Canada??
I just want the right info before I call back Telus...
Thanks again.

Unlimited Data Plan w/ Telus & Tethering to Laptop

I just recently resigned with Telus on a three year contract that gives me unlimited data for $30/month. Apparently it was offered around Xmas for $15/month. The only restriction is that you cannot use it to tether to your laptop for a data connection through the phone. My question is how do they know? Does the laptop broadcast a different MAC or something that enables Telus to identify whether or not your tethering?
By the way, Thanks to all contributers that have made this phone rock!
i dont think there is anyway they know besides observing the type of data youre transmitting/receiving and how much. been tethering for a long time now with no problems.
Which plan is it you are on exactly? i can`t find any info on this on the telus website. I would switch immediately if i can find the info.
It's not on the website but if you phone Telus they have it. My Apex rep in Surrey knew about it and set me up. I think it might expire today or tomorrow so hurry. My P4000 was stolen last month and I needed to replace it. I was only 18 months into a 3 year contract and only had a $200 bonus on my account for a new phone and contract. I was able to talk directly to Telus and get them to let me back into that phone for the $199 on a three year contract. The phone is around $550 without contract.
This is the first time I've seen unlimited data for a reasonable price in Canada.
I still think that there is a way they know your tethering. Perhaps the MAC address is the identifier. I hope someone can shed further light into this. It would be nice if Telus is just saying this to stop me but really don't have a mechanism to identify if you are tethering or not.
Offers available until May 4, 2008. Hurry UP!!!
Check on this page, and links on the right side.
http://www.telusmobility.com/bc/services/pcs/email_im_15.shtml
More detailed info on the link below
Select telus smartphones and select the phone you want and it'll show you available plan options for that particular model.
They were offering unlimited internet, email and IM for $15 during the xmas period thru till valentines day, now they re-packaged it for $30 or $45, whatever suits your taste. Way better than any other carrier in Canada.
Funny enough even though it says unlimited, there still is a cap on how much data you can use. It's capped, not quite too sure at how many gigs, but go over that and they will charge you $8/MB. A clause embedded in the plan stating that they have discretion over what they think is abuse of the service.
Only reason I know this is I have a friend of mine who got drunk of the service and used his pda to download content he would normally dl using his home pc, try guessing his reaction when his phone bill came up to $789!! they were courteous enough to send him an itemized bill tracking his usage to fully explain the charges. I thought it was freaking hilarious! I guess moral being If you MUST tether, do it reasonably or don't at all.
http://promo.telusmobility.com/smartphones/index.html?landing=rethink#gg=RatesWhySmartPhonesState
Thank you so much for detailed explanation. I didn't know too much about this, but went directly to $45 when I discovered that promo because that's what I need. Comparing with my initial $25 / 4MB, $45 isn't bad.
I believe as long as I stay on email checkup, and news, stock, and weather update, should be safe.
Question is, if this X-Max, the $15 plan comes back again, am I still eligible to change?
Coolpics said:
Thank you so much for detailed explanation. I didn't know too much about this, but went directly to $45 when I discovered that promo because that's what I need. Comparing with my initial $25 / 4MB, $45 isn't bad.
I believe as long as I stay on email checkup, and news, stock, and weather update, should be safe.
Question is, if this X-Max, the $15 plan comes back again, am I still eligible to change?
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Initially it was first introduced for new clients only but then they extended the offer to existing clients, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to sign up when and if they re-introduce it, it was such a huge success. It can be used as an add-on to your existing plan.
PS: xmas i meant christmas
I got the $15 unlimited internet plan around christmas-time. The only stipulation was that the voice+data plan had to go above $45. Originally it was just being offered for certain phones, then they opened it up to every smartphone. I told all my friends about it, only a couple got it. Now they raised the price to $30 and the ones that missed out are kicking themselves.
I use my phone connection with my laptop using PDANET. great program, invisible tethering.
No Fee for Tethering
Will Internet Connection Sharing ICS (found file on XDA Developers) do the same job as PDAnet at masking tethering to laptop?

About the purchase HD2...

I went around shopping today for a HD2 ..
Trying to get the HD2 and sign a new 2yr contract family plan with 3-4 lines..and most the stores will offer it to me for free plus $50-100 bucks back. The only catch is they won't open the line unless i also sign up for the $30 data plan... which i don't want.
Some of the reps told me the alternative is to buy the international version of the phone without data plan but they want me to cough up a extra ~$200+ some dollars out of my pocket to get it.
I went to this one store and said they would give me the T-mobile version of the phone plus some money back as well without the data plan and the way he'll do it is not record the IMEI during the sign up...... really interesting proposition !!!
Does that really work ???? Not record the IMEI number... he said i won't have warranty if he doesn't not record the IMEI. I guess my real question is will Tmobile find out i have the HD2 and force data plan on my contract some time down the 2 year contract.....
Do you really want to risk the chance of not having a warranty though....???
I thought they had to list the IMEI when you sign up in order to establish the acct. but you never know. Just give it a long thought b/c you wouldnt want the phone to be defective after allowed time period and then have to pay $130 (assuming you get insurance) for another one....
He said i can't buy the insurance or claim any type of warranty because then T-mobile will get the IMEI and probably enforce the data plan. So i really don't know how this works....
In any event... if i pay $30 a month X 24 months i'm going to be out $720, by that time i've spent enough money to buy TWO HD2..... $720 dollars worth of service i don't really need because i have Wifi in most the places i travel to.
Yes it will work but you won't have any data at all. It will just say your phone is not supported on this network. In the future if you want data or text its $30 unlimited for both text and data. Or if you have skype you can get unlimited data alone for $39.99. I was thinking of that for a while. I think the dataplan is how they give you the phone, I thought it was mandatory so he may be cheating tmo out of money. Tmo stores are mostly independent and will lie cheat and steal from you any chance they get. I remeber one friend saying they were nice enough to recognize his IME and upgrade his dataplan automatically. Your Tmo guy may not tell you this. I would call Tmobile and order the phones you want online. If you don't want data but want an HD2 what about getting an HD2 on craigslist for $250 new and selling what you get from tmo, either a Touch Pro 2 , or a BB 9700 I think right now. Or get your kids phones on the plan and buy yours on CL.
If you get the international version, you won't have 3g too. If you ever changed your mind about the data plan, you would be using it with edge. MUCH slower. Just buy the t-mobile one off craigslist and don't go on the internet via t-mobile. Just wifi. Ive never seen them put it on when someone doesn't have any internet. If you had the cheap internet plan, ive seen them refuse access to the internet until you buy the more expensive one but even that you can get around by changing the apn. Hell, im using my hd2 with $5.99 t-zones! With the epc apn! (Every time i call t-mobile about something, they give me this horror story about how my phone will shut off or stop working if i don't get the full data plan. They push it VERY hard but i keep refusing. I pay $100 in data plans on all my lines already!)
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Yes it will work but you won't have any data at all. It will just say your phone is not supported on this network. In the future if you want data or text its $30 unlimited for both text and data. Or if you have skype you can get unlimited data alone for $39.99. I was thinking of that for a while. I think the dataplan is how they give you the phone, I thought it was mandatory so he may be cheating tmo out of money. Tmo stores are mostly independent and will lie cheat and steal from you any chance they get. I remeber one friend saying they were nice enough to recognize his IME and upgrade his dataplan automatically. Your Tmo guy may not tell you this. I would call Tmobile and order the phones you want online. If you don't want data but want an HD2 what about getting an HD2 on craigslist for $250 new and selling what you get from tmo, either a Touch Pro 2 , or a BB 9700 I think right now. Or get your kids phones on the plan and buy yours on CL.
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'Really? Im paying $30 for web alone and then $10 for text. smh
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'Really? Im paying $30 for web alone and then $10 for text. smh
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Really and HD2 without a data plan is like buying a Lamborgini without an engine ...
It'll look good sitting in your garage, but what ya gonna do with it ???
Seriously , get the data plan , if you live in an area with HSDPA or even better HSDPA+ it is worth it, with the latter you can get upwards of 7 meg or so down in good coverage area, the data plan is pretty cheap for that kind of bandwidth ...
If not , just get you a pda and cheap phone ...
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Really and HD2 without a data plan is like buying a Lamborgini without an engine ...
It'll look good sitting in your garage, but what ya gonna do with it ???
Seriously , get the data plan , if you live in an area with HSDPA or even better HSDPA+ it is worth it, with the latter you can get upwards of 7 meg or so down in good coverage area, the data plan is pretty cheap for that kind of bandwidth ...
If not , just get you a pda and cheap phone ...
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Yeah. i dont want to lose my data b/c its more dependable. but i have been hearing from a few ppl that their txt is included in that chrge. Maybe i need to actually take a look at my statement...
I'm fully aware that the international version does not support the proper radio freq for Tmobile 3G but i've never heard of the phone not working because of the lack of data plan, the phone should work without the internet.
I refuse to pay $30 for 3G access when i have wifi ..... i have a HTC TYTN2 right now and all i do is make calls, txt and GPS... i rarely use the internet. I could care less about all the features i won't be able to use without data plan i'm in it more for the eye candy...... Now if they offered $30 for 4G access i would consider it.

[Q] Web2go and Samsung Vibrant?

I was just wondering if anybody has personally been able to use their grandfathered $10 web2go data plan with their new samsung vibrant? I was able to use it on my old wm phones with the right apn settings but I'm not sure if it's the same in android. If you have gotten it to work, I would really appreciate it if you could post your apn settings because so far all the ones I've tried online haven't worked for me.
All of those grandfathered plans work -- for about six hours. I was using T-Zones on my iPhone, which worked on my Vibrant until my account updated. Once T-Mo updates your profile with the IEMI number of the device, they cut off your access and forward your phone to an obnoxious 'Upgrade To The Android Data Plan' message.
If they didn't have your phone registered in their database, you could continue to use your grandfathered plan (which you should be able to do anyway, to be honest).
And then, of course, you're asked to pay $30/mo for an 'unlimited' data plan that actually has a 3G cap of 10GB. Once you reach that threshold, you're throttled to EDGE.
Meanwhile, Sprint and Verizon have truly unlimited data for phones, for the exact same price.
If Verizon still has their unlimited data package when their GSM network rolls out for LTE, I know where I'm going...
If u talk to customer loyality you can get the grandfathered $20 / mon data plan. I know it's not the $10 plan but atleast it's not the $30 plan. I talked to them and they let me use that plan, just make sure you request them to add-on the visual voicemail option if you use the TMo one since it won't work off hand w/out it added on as an option (this add-on is free).
No direct experience with the $10 plan, but I had the way old 5.99 T-zones that allowed a proxy setting to get full 'net access on a symbian phone. It worked for a few hours with my first android then was blocked. I stuck my brother's SIM whose account had the same proxy 'net access with no monthly fee and it worked with android for a few hours as well.
Seems as if T-Mo is detecting android phones on the network and actually enforcing a data plan requirement.
I've read numerous posts at the official T-mobile forums and beyond a couple of phones like the Samsung Behold, no Android phone and certainly no upper-range Android phone that is branded by T-mobile (they have the IMEI numbers blocked) will work with the $5.99 T-zones or the $10 web2go plan. The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
silverwolf0 said:
The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
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Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
oDeACoNo said:
Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
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Well I tried calling several times but no such luck on getting through to the customer loyalty department thus far. Is there some special password or buzzword to talk to these guys? Although truth be told I've only been with tmobile since 2007. Is that a long enough time to qualify for this preferred plan? I really love how tmobile screws us android users over. It's no wonder as to how they're losing customers and yet still gaining revenue...
You have to say that you're thinking about moving to a different carrier, and you'd like to be transferred to the customer retention department.
I brought up the Sprint $70/mo unlimited plan (450 landline minuts, unlimited cell minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data). I was able to negotiate unlimited minutes (regardless) and unlimited data for $70 (I declined texts because GVoice is free, and texting is stupid anyway).
Hope that helps.
I think I'm just gonna return the vibrant and use my hd2 until my contract ends in a couple months and then possibly buy the vibrant off contract. Perhaps by then they'll have actually bothered fixing the gps although I'm not holding my breath...
The only thing I don't understand is on the even more + plans it seems data is $20 a month in the bundle. Is this true for android phones as well? Or is there some special android data plan designated to milk us for more money?
just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
scrizz said:
just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
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Thanks, I think I can live without data for a month so I guess I'll switch to that plan when my contract's up. I may just use google voice for text since I don't even use it that often.
I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
Genesis3 said:
I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
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Interesting. And what would the qualifications for that plan be?
If you don't have Total Internet, you probably can't get swapped over. Total Internet was their old $20 unlimited (TRULY unlimited, not throttled) data plan.
I've been with T-Mo since it was Voicestream, and had Total Internet on my old Nokia 6161... with which I tethered! They did not want to see me leave, and I was quite willing to go to Sprint if I had to. It helped that I am off contract.
Damn. I've only been with with tmobile since 2007. Right around the same time at&t's network began bucking under the weight of the iphones really.
Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
Jon C said:
Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
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Considering you were with them for so long it would make sense for them to give you that deal but I only got about 3 years under my belt with them. Aw well, I'll give it another try anyways. Couldn't hurt right?
I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
ayoraider07 said:
I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
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sounds good, will try
I went through customer loyalty. They gave me unlimited talk for $49.95 plus unlimited web and text for $35.00. That's $20 for unlimited web and $14.95 for unlimited texting. I quess that's a good deal. If not some one tell me! LOL! So I can call them again and haggle!

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