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ActiveSync via Bluetooth PCMCIA Pico Card not working

Judging by the number of topics on Activesync and Bluetooth a lot of people seem to be having difficulty synchronising their XDAII via Bluetooth. I am no exception.
I bought a Bluetooth PCMCIA card from eBay made by Sphinx Elektroniks (Germany) which came with Bluetooth Monitor v1.0.14 Build 1 software. See
http://www.sphinx-elektronik.de/deutsch/bluetooth/picocard_tech.htm
Whilst my XDAII and PC have bonded ok with the XDAII clearly visible in the Environment pane, it does not seem possible to either transfer files between XDAII and PC nor to get Activesync to work. There is no Activesync profile (from what I can see) in the Bluetooth Monitor software, there are only 3 "services" listed:
- SSA (this has modem symbol)
- ? OBEX Object Push
- ? Service Discovery
I have tried installing the first two on an available serial COM port, e.g. 2, 5 or 6 and then going into Activesync on the PC and trying to "Get connected" but the PC can't see the any of these ports when it looks for a mobile device. The third of the services in the list above reports an error "the service cannot be installed. SCN (service channel number) is 0". I have also tried to initiate Bluetooth connection from the XDAII, both via the Settings, System, Bluetooth Settings, Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup "Start". I have also made sure that the PC ActiveSync Connection Settings has the "allow serial cable or infrared connection to this COM port" is enabled but the ports 2, 5 or 6 are not visible.
So it seems I am stuck. Anyone else had similar problems or had any success with this type of Bluetooth card?

If the card supports serial profile it should work, just make sure you have not bonded with anything on your xda2, go to settings/system/bluetooth, choose the "sync by bluetooth" it will tell you to bond with a serial profile capable bt service, let it search. Make sure you are in discover mode. I have a cheap bt dongle which came with the widcomm software and I am using bluetooth to sync and I am able to surf the web anywhere in the house on my xda2. I can even use my pc as my headset and listen to the phone through the pc speakers and use the mic to speak to the phone.
I just checked that site and it seems that your card does support serial profile so it should work. If it has the bluetooth wizard you need to set up all the protocols that you will be using first.

Hi cruisin-thru,
Yes I saw your earlier post about your success with your cheap Bluetooth dongle. I'm glad you got it working.
Sadly, I've already tried your suggested method but when I do the Settings/System/Bluetooth Settings and click the "Start" button for Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup (which is what I assume you are referring to) it comes up with the error message "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or ActiveSync profile as your ActiveSync partner!". When I click ok it goes to the Bluetooth mode screen (which shows "Discoverable" still. I can only conclude that my Pico card is not compatible with ActiveSync or serial port modes.
My XDAII synchronises fine by USB and IrDA but Bluetooth would be good for surfing, as you know.
Rafil.

You definitely have the serial profiles activated on your pc??

Dear Cruisin-thru,
Thanks for your help on this subject but the Pico card & software I have just don't work with the XDAII. There is no way to do the serial port profiles in a way that the XDAII can see it. I have decided to abandon the Pico card and to go for the dongle that you recommended. For the benefit of all XDAII users who want to sync by Bluetooth, cruisin-thru kindly supplied the following link on eBay for the USB Bluetooth dongle that does work:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI...blue-future&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50
Regards -- Rafil.

Here is a link to the software I am using with the dongle.
http://www.blue-future.co.uk/BluetoothDriver.zip
Make sure the dongle is unplugged until you get the prompt. Make sure previous software is removed also.

USB Host Function Devices

Can You people list the devices that were tested to have usb host function i will start it
- E-ten g500
- E-ten m600
- E-ten m500
- HTC Advantage
- HTC Shift
- O2 Flame
u ppl list the rest known devices

Loox 720, C550, N5x0, T8x0.
Acer n31x.
Ah, and this is better in Wiki, i guess.

Toshiba e800, e830
HTC Universal (JasJar)

rob.ocelot the jasjar
the jasjar doesn't have usb host function itz not connected from the processor or it needs spacial cabeling or sofware...if u can prove that it works on jasjar i wud be really glad

HTC Advantage needs optional 4-1-Cable (USB, VGA, S-VIDEO, Composite) to connect a normal USB-Device (USB-Sticks, HDD,...).
I'm using this often and working well and detecting a Storage Media immideately (quicker than WinXP).

Remote Power PC?

Hi,
I was thinking, is it possible to write a command/script for a PPC phone, that would send a command via BT/IR to a reciever connected to the PC to power it up? I think that this could be done on the phone side (I have a Elf Ench.), but the problem lies in the hardware of the PC. My mobo supports wake-on functions:
- on RTC
- on external modems
- on PCI & PCIe deviced
- on PS2/USB keyboard
That first and last one will be probably useless, but what about the rest? I know that some people did it with IR, by connecting IR module to a pin on the MOBO, but IR has a limited range, and you have to point directly to the diode, but BT on the other hand is inactive when the PCs power is off...
What do you think, is it possible?

I have wakeup over USB working here.
Not with my PPC, but with my universal IR Remote.
I use the receiver from the Media Center Remote from Microsoft.
If your board can handle it, the power function of the MCE Remote
can wake up the PC.
It was no problem to learn the IR command to my universal remote.
So it should be no problem to get it working with novii remote or similar ppc programs (if your ppc has a IR-port, or better Consumer IR for more reach).
The MCE remote isn't that expensive, should be under 30$.

Now I have a wake-on-keyboard (SPACE) setup in BIOS, and my mobo is quite new (ASUS P5K) so I think it can handle it. But I just realized, that my Elf doesn't have an IR port, so my only option is BT ... The main problem is, does BT stay active after power off? If not, than there is nothing that we can do ...
And one more thing, I wouldn't want to bootup a IR/BT program to send a command, that just takes too long, is there a way to write some sort of a shortcut to send a BT command w/o launching a additional application?

I think your only way is to send a magic packet over to your network card, assuming it supports wake on lan

Is it possible? USB for WiMo...

Hy,
with so many ppl out there making there own audio-video-charging-whatnot cables for Smartphones of all kinds (especially the Omnia i know of) i would like to know if it would be possible to get any kind of external USB device like Keyboard, Mouse, USb-Hub or HDD working on a custom cable and driver of some sort. Sure when u allready have a USB-Port on your device the special cable is not needed, but the Driver part is, so interest and demand of this should be rather high me thinks...
Since i have no knowledge to program it, this post is more like a suggestion or request. If the hardware of Smartphones is not as reconfigurable like the Bluetooth-components that can be teached to understand Bluetooth-Keyboards and Mouse then let me know and close the thread
Thanks
Flashhawk

these are possible...if someone agrees to write drivers for all the stuff we want to run...atleast thats what ive heard n read (and remember )

Default Zeno USB Host Drivers v6.0a
Zeno USB Host Drivers v6.0a
==========================
Date: 2009-02-12
Original thread and discussion found here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899&highlight=zeno+usb
Requirements
============
PDA or Smartphone running WM5, WM6, WM6.1, propper USB cable for your device, PTP digital camera.
Information
===========
Made by Zeno Sloim. Based on RATOC Systems drivers.
The package contains:
- USB Mouse driver
- USB Keyboard US-101 HID driver
- USB-based external CD-DVD unit
- USB-based HDD unit, Memory Flash, USB-based card-reader MassStorage Driver
- USB-to-Serial Port driver (start Terminal in Start-Programs for configuration).
- RS232 USB Serial Driver (start RS232 USB Serial Driver in Start-Programs for configuration).
- PTPView for HOST & PTP Digital Cameras driver (non-USB Mass Storage such as Sony, Canon etc.).
- download photos and movies from PTP digital camera to your PDA
- photo preview
- multiple files download
- delete files from digital camera
All features tested on Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 560N running WM6.1 with Transcend 16 GB SDHC Class 6.
Used with OEM USB keyboard, OEM external HDD, Kingston 8 GB memory-flash, OEM card-reader and various SD, SDHC cards, Microsoft various USB Mouses, Jura F9 automatic-coffee-machine serial port controller, OEM serial GPS unit, Canon Powershot G3, Canon PowerShot S3 IS
Download and run installer.exe on your pc, autorun.exe on your pda, autorun-s.exe on your smartphone.
History
=======
- Version 1.0: 2009-02-06 (first version)
- Version 2.0: 2009-02-07 added USB Host Mouse support for generic USB mouse. Only left-click and right-click support included, scroll-mouses are reduced to simple left and right click mouses.)
- Version 3.0: USB-to-Serial Port support added. V3 includes all previous versions, no need for uninstall. V3 does automatically soft-reset, which was not the case for v1 or v2.
- Version 4.0: PTP digital camera support added. V4 includes all previous versions, no need for uninstall.
- Version 5.0: added compatibility with older devices WM2003, as well as for WM Smartphones.
- Version 6.0: improved USB-to-Serial Port driver and added a second RS232 USB Serial Driver more suited for serial GPS units.
- Version 6.0a: modified installer, no longer forced reboot after full install, due to conflict with TouchFlo, SBSH iLauncher which caused a repeated reboot. You should manually restart your device after complete install.
FAQ
===
1. What you see on screen when you connect something?
For HDD, Memory Flash or CardReader, you can see in Explorer(Resco Explorer or WM Explorer) the new unit labeled as "Hard Disk".
For keyboard, you don't see , but in any program using the device own keyboard (Touch Screen or slide - HTC Touch Pro), you can just type on external USB keyboard.
For mouse you see a yellow-green mouse cursor on screen which follows the external mouse movements.
For DVD you see : "External Mass Storage"
For Serial port a little window prompts you to configure the serial port settings and communication protocol.
Or start Terminal in Start-Programs for configuration, or start RS232 USB Serial Driver in Start-Programs for configuration.
For digital camera start the program PTP View.
2. Is program limited to only devices with USB-host?
Yes and no. It depends on the hardware construction, accesible USB connector, even older devices without usb-host can have usb-host functionality. Many models and manufacturers has hidden this feature which really exists in their devices. The only way to find is to test it and if not working, search if other users succeeded. Original Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 560N has included by default usb-host connector, with support for HDD-Memory Flash only.
3. Cables and power supply - which ones?
I always tested it with powersupply incoupled for my Loox, even if HDD or DVD-unit self was powered separated. More info on how to build an injected USB power supply here:
http://tabletblog.com/2006/01/usb-po...host-mode.html
or here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...or&btnG=Search
You can use the cables/accessories from an external powered usb 2.5" hdd unit and adapter mini-usb to usb (usb cables with 2 heads at one end for external power supply).
4. I ran your installer but nothing happened, and nothing got installed?
You must run installer.exe on your PC with your pda connected via Active Sync. Or copy autorun.exe to your pda and run it from your pda.
The installer detects if any of the 7 modules are already installed and it jumps to next component to check if it is installed. If all components are installed you see the message that nothing has been installed. After install, if you want to remove a certain component, you can do it by choosing Setting-System-Remove Programs. You'll see all 7 components and just uninstall the desired one like any other ordinary installled program. There's no common uninstaller for all 7 components at once, but for any of the 7 individually.
5. Does it work on my device?
There's nothing harmful, nothing malicious hidden in my program, so you can test it on your devices without risk for dataloss or other unpleasant effects.
The installation (CABs) is not locked to certain device, it is uninstallable, it is not compressed to avoid installproblems on certain devices. On my FSC Loox 560N I could install/uninstall without problems. Test my program, if it works, I'll be glad I could help other users, without thinking of money or profit. If it does not work, I can not guarantee I can help you. Just try and see.
6. Can it read data from attached DVD-unit or NTFS partitions?
Yes. The DVD unit I used is an Acer USB-based CD&DVD-RW made 2004 for an Acer Tablet-PC.
7. Barcode readers?
A user commented that even an USB barcode reader worked ok.
8. Incompatibility problems with other programs?
I can only test on my FSC Loox 560N. You can try on other devices and report in this thread on your experiences.
9. Legal aspects. Is this program legal?
Yes. All informations and sources are based on free available information and sources. No licences or copyrights were infringed. All is legal to use.
10. How much does it cost?
This program made by me, Zeno Sloim, is completeley free to use and test. I do not demand any payment or any other material form of recompense.
My program is done as Freeware and may be used by anyone.
However it may be not used or included by any person or company in a shareware product or which demands paying.
http://rapidshare.de/files/45220151/...v6.0a.rar.html

Maaan!!!
That is great!! Will try as fast as i can!!
Thank you so much!!!
Flashhawk

if u read the whole thread u will know that it is not working for majority of the devices. i hope that someone could solve this problem soon.

That driver doesnt work on many devices, touch pro and diamond cant use it.

Windows MOBILE 7 Dream Phone

Lets make a thread to Show Microsoft we want a Windows Mobile 7 Phone, which operates in Windowed mode, like Windows mobile 6, and comes with a Microsoft-made or HTC-made custom phone specifically for the Windows Moblie 7 Platform
talk about what it might include, what features we'd like, etc..
The Windows Mobile 7 OS would operate similarly to Windows 7 on Desktop PCs, basically a slightly modified version of Windows 7 with flick-panning ability & touch zooming
The Hardware Configuration on the phone should be:
- Quad-core 2Ghz CPU
- 256-512 MB GPU
- 2GB RAM
- 1280x768 4" or 5" Screen Resolution.. 1080p is preferred
- My Display Port (MyDP) with cables & converters included
- 64 GB internal Memory as a Dedicated C:\ Drive
- Dual or Quad Internal (Under the back case) Micro SD Card slots, to hold 2 to 4 Micro SDs which function as removable Disk Drives
- Dual External Micro SD Card Slots, which function as Portable Disk Drives or removable USB Drives
- Each SD Card Slot is Dedicated D:\, E:\, F:\, G:\, H:\, I:\ etc..
- Minimum of 12 external hardware buttons
- Internally Retractable Cable-Attached Full-width telescoping Stylus with 2 hardware buttons and a scroll dial..
- Native Bluetooth External AAA battery-operated Mini Mouse & Foldable Keyboard
- Able to boot any OS, with each separate OS able to boot from each SD card Slot
- Bios Set up for setting default Boot Drive, Memory Settings, etc
- Ability to run x86 Windows 7 Programs..
- Ability to zoom out to full desktop view, eventhough it be small.. we dont need to read ever icon text on the desktop, thats what the icons are for..
- Dedicated 3.5 Video-in & Audio Line-In jacks, as well as a standard headphone jack
- Full-sized USB port for attaching peripherals & USB Hubs
- Rugged, water-resistant, & Shock-proof
- Gorilla Glass
- Bluetooth 4
- 4G
- GPS
- 12 Megapixel Camera pureview quality, with Carl Zeiss Lens
- 2 MP front camera
Now add to this list..
or create your own Windows Mobile 7 Dream Phone

The 12 hardware Buttons could switch back & forth between F1-F12 functionality, or to a set of user-defined other phone assignments
maybe F1-F12 functionality when the phone is docked to a Cradle, Docked into a Tablet Screen, or switched from App Mode to "Windowed Mode" or "Desktop Mode"
the 2 external micro SD Card slots would make it more easy for transferring files between various devices & users, while the internal SD Card Slots would remain protected from possible virus infection from external use
the MyDP connection would be at the bottom left, USB would be at the bottom right.. The Docking Cradle would have Both MyDP & USB Male Ports..
The Docking Cradle would have Common Display Ports VGA, DVI, HDMI, etc.. as well as a 4-port USB hub
Docking the cradle would attach both MyDP & USB, and allow connection from Cradle to HD Display, and use with USB mouse & Keyboard
How Awesome is that?

actually, phones now have 1920x1080 screens, i see...
and I guess 8-core processors may become the new thing as well
we need powerful programs that utilize these upcoming hardware configurations
and I'd like to view the entire Windows 7 desktop at 1920x1080, on my 5 or 6" ACTUALLY smarterphone's screen
yes, i dont care if you cant see it or read it.. I can, i assure you..
and no i dont care if it'd hurt your eyes or make you feel grumpy.. I want it
Has anyone tried installing XP in one of these phones yet?
how far off are we on that?
but we'd need an OS which is made for zooming from full desktop mode to panning mode or something better which takes us from full resolution desktop to multi- application windows
which is where Android should really be putting all of their resources
or Microsoft could take the market with a Windows MOBILE 8 made for this exact purpose
or, Apple, may even suddenly appear on the market with it, making their iPad as useful & functional as the macbooks, and their phones equally as functional & useful as well.. if they can ever stop milking technology & bleeding their customers dry for every last cent they may spend on something before offering the next decades late piece of technology
or we can all sit around gawking at each others swiping methods..