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My XDA II keeps turning itself on, as if a program is waking it up.
I have checked that no programs are running using the option under Start/Settings/System/Memory.
Is there a way to see what processes are running in the background?
It does this even when stationary on my desk so it's not an accidental button press.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I'd appreciate any suggestions on tracking this down as it has a huge impact on battery life.
Thanks.
yup... mine was caused by Activesync. Make sure you have all the settings set to "Manual".
You can also download "Notification Check" by Scarybearsoftware. It will go through your PDA and look for extra events that don't belong there.
For some time I was getting a calander event for some birthday that didn't even exist!
yep, here too
I notice that it turn on after upgrading from 1.66 to 1.72
I'm not sure that could be for this...
I'll try "Notification Check"...from scarybear software
I had this and it was doing my head in! But using the check notifications did not help. I thought that possibly some of the games I installed to my SD card may have caused the problem.
So I copied everything off the card, and formatted it in the pocketpc (resco explorer), not from a card reader! Then I copied everything back and since then not a single un-intentional turn on.
Cheerio
Howard
Well, it didn't fix it for me either. I'm now testing with the Storage Card removed.
I'll post back if I find anyhting.
Another problem is when your GPRS connection activates itself!! soo annoying.
Taking the storage card out made no difference.
So far, however, with Flight Mode turned on it seems to be fine.
If this is the case then that would be really annoying.
What would be going on with Flight Mode Off to cause the XDA II to wake up?
With the radio off, GPRS is also off (as is BlueTooth and IR).
Is GPRS turning the device on?
Immediately after the device powers itself on, tap the signal meter and see if GPRS is connected.
Do you have a POP3 or IMAP4 Email account set to retreive messages at a regular interval?
Thanks, I'd already checked those.
The radio off was a red herring. It woke me up at 02:06 for no reason that I coulod find, with radio off.
I'd really like to find this before doing a hard reset so that I can fix it again if necessary and posting here will help others.
There's nothing worse than curing a problem and you don't know how.
My feeling is that it is being caused by some program you have loaded . . . or worst case, by a combination of programs. Unfortunately, if that's the case, the most likely way to track down the culprit will be to -
1. Hard-reset your device.
2. Run it for a time with no additional programs installed to make sure the problem is gone.
3. One at a time, install a single additional program and run it that way for a while to see if the problem occurs.
4. Only after proving that the problem does not occur with that configuration do you install another program.
5. If the problem occurs after installing a program - Hard-reset the device again and install only that program - then you know if the program itself is causing the problem or if it is a combination of programs.
This does not necessarily sound like FUN . . . but I can't see a better way to positively identify which program is causing your problem.
HTH
Thanks for that. That is my thinking too.
I'll do that when I've got a few hours to spare and I'll post the results, identifying the offending program.
ON and OFF
I have the same exact problem.
And I did found out that this is some of the program I install.
Example : SPB Pocket Plus (also other Today's plugin)
I did a hard reset, and try with out any program, then ad one program, then two etc..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
unfortunatly I love some of the plugin, but I have to get rid of it, if I don't want my battery to fall off in one day.
Bruxelles5 wrote:
..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
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This is curious, as I have SPB Pocket Plus 2.0 installed, and I have never experienced an unintended/spontaneous turn-on (of my imate anyway ).
try turing battery monitor off in sprite backup
and also turn off the battery bar thing in spb2
that sorted my probs out
Turning on
I use Pocketplus and don't have a turning on problem, except when cradled, in which case it continuously tries to sync, even with everything set to manual.
Don't think Pocketplus is the cukprit.
SMW1
I have the following 2 problems and wonder if anyone else have BOTH problems on the SAME device ?
screen misalignment
freezing while charging.
Freezing every 3 screenclicks in TomTom 5 (and 6)
I have those (TT6) on the Vario 2 +
1) Landscape/portrait confusion sometimes - maybe a bad keyboard slider contact
2) ActiveSync doesn't always realise the device is connected
3) ...
Owned it for 2 weeks so far & still think it's pretty good.
Backlight settings (under battery power), when changed from default setting of 10secs, changes right back to 10secs.
Slow to pick up and hang up (up to 2secs each)
Changing screen orientation while entering info (calendar or contact) loses its focus so you have to click the entry again to regain focus.
Update Library... doesn't work for storage cards. Have to remove the MSMETADATA folder on the card to get it to update.
Misses key presses at random
Drops signal at random, and therefore calls.
The list is endless.
fergusstrachan said:
Backlight settings (under battery power), when changed from default setting of 10secs, changes right back to 10secs.
Slow to pick up and hang up (up to 2secs each)
Changing screen orientation while entering info (calendar or contact) loses its focus so you have to click the entry again to regain focus.
Update Library... doesn't work for storage cards. Have to remove the MSMETADATA folder on the card to get it to update.
Misses key presses at random
Drops signal at random, and therefore calls.
The list is endless.
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....noticing your signature.....
do i take it you would stay with the universal?
Matt
Actually no, I would stick with the Wizard any day (with the latest rom and overclocking).
I'd love this Hermes to work, but as long as it has all these damn problems it's more hassle than it's worth.
The term "bleeding edge" has never been more appropriate for me, it's still a beta product.
Ferg.
every one should stick with their wizard!. i had tytn for 3 days and my head was blowing! to many problems.
but don't forget that there isn't decent pda/phone around.
fergusstrachan said:
Backlight settings (under battery power), when changed from default setting of 10secs, changes right back to 10secs.
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This one I've isolated to phones which have been restored from a backup made with SPB's Backup.
Has anybody else seen this? it happens to both mine and my wife?
You cannot receive calls, and the alarms don't work? It needs a soft resest to start up again.
Any ideas?
If I understand your problem correctly the same thing is happening to my TyTN. I'm slowly trying to figure out if it's some software that I've loaded or not - any 3rd party apps you've recently loaded? The biggest problem for me is I can't tell if it's frozen or not until I try to turn it back on. Post any progress with fixes and I shall do the same.
Voice Command is the only culprit I can think off
I will uninstall it and see what happens, even though I love it it ha notorious bugs and power consumptions (it runs in the background 24/7)
Also here is a list of my software maybe you can add yours?
atek cool camera
vijay555 vj candela
vjay555 VJbluesync
vodafone fone skin
c ghiesler total commander
tt6
my company flas messenger
pocket mechanic
skype ilium software wallet
fit4carhermes tweaker
mikeycollins13 said:
Has anybody else seen this? it happens to both mine and my wife?
You cannot receive calls, and the alarms don't work? It needs a soft resest to start up again.
Any ideas?
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If you search the forum I think you find it has been traced to installing *some* apps onto the micro SD card.
Think I might have fixed it
I'm sitting here fingers crossed as I think I might have fixed this on my Vario II.
I was getting the hang in standby mode problem and having to soft reset on average about 3 times a day. I was reading in some forum or other that it has something to do with applications trying to access the SD card while in standby mode.
It occurred to me that this might have something to do with my email settings. I had a pop3 email account setup to download emails at 15 min intervals (24hrs a day).
I changed 2 things :-
1) Changed interval to 30 mins (basically to save baterry power)
2) Unchecked the 'Store attachments on storage card' check box on the Options - Storage tab.
I don't see how changing the interval would change anything apart from possibly reducing the number of crashes.
I think it could well be caused by email trying to store downloaded email attachments on the storage card when in standby.
It's been 2 days now without a hang.
Fingers crossed.
I'll update if it comes back.
Chris
I changed radio from 1.20 to 1.16
Because I realized that i had recently upgraded my wife's and then this started with her too.
I had 1.05->Radio 1.20>HANGS, so changed to 1.11> some hangs, but less, back to 1.20=hanging all the time=>back to 1.16, no hanging so far and battery improved.
Must be something to do with power usage as battery is much better now.
I conclude not such a great idea to upgrade with Chinese Dopod radio rom when living in London, who knows how they all set up their networks and GPRS etc.
Last night, with BT on, and AS in the background, I only lost 30% power compared to 50% before with these apps off. So a noticeable difference.
I just got AMEO from T mobile which I believe the same as HTC advantage.
despite of being SIM locked by T-mobile, I am experiencing another problem in waking up the device after it goes into sleep mode.
After I left the device idle for few minutes, it turn the whole screen off. (not only the back lit).
I can see the LED for BT/wifi still blinking.
But no matter which button I press, it couldn't be turn on at all.
As final resolve, I have to soft reset the device every time after it sleep!!!
Can some experts here advise me? is it a defective unit? or some other settings are wrong? Do I need to return it to the vendor?
I don't want to keep the device always on by disabling the auto off feature in power setting either.
Does someone have the same problem like me?
Thanks for any advise in advance.
What happens if you put it on the keyboard while "asleep"? Even if it means taking it off there first.
If doing that and pushing the power button fail to turn it on, it's a defective unit.
it's the same problem even i attach it to the keyboard.
a bit funny though, if i press the power button from the side to turn it off. I won't have any problem to turn it on.
but if i leave it to auto off mode, then i can't turn it on until resetting it from the back hole.
can it be improved if I flash to other ROM?
My Ameo does it occasionally - I find that (re)attaching the keyboard tends to bring it out of sleep better than pressing the power button. I get the impression that by pressing the power button, it sometimes gets confused that its still on and tries to turn itself off (even when it is already off). Tends to lead to a reboot every few days though. Waiting (fingers x'd) for WM6 to see if it behaves better.
do you guys have this option
settings>button>lock
try to toggle the checkbox to see if it helps
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
I can confirm that it doesn't help my AMEO.
anyway, thank for your thought.
Digital.Diablo said:
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
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To digital:
can I ask for a favor from you. could you try to make the device auto power off without sim card in.
and see whether u will have the exact problem i have or more frequent it dead...
due to my unit is locked to T mobile network, i still haven't put any sim card in.
Tried it without simcard in but it still turns on ok after the fix. TBH, sounds like you're getting the issue more than me - mine only does it occasionally (once every couple-3days) and as yet, I've not managed to locate a consistent cause. I'll keep my eye on it though with the fix and let you all know how I get on.
the other thing that i can think of out of at the moment is that you are running some prog from the sd card/microdrive in the background so when you try to switch your device on then it does not get started and hence the problem...
try tweaks2k (you can use the trial version)
it has a bunch of settings for this... (just check that it is compatible with ameo first)
install 'screenoff' and assign to one of the button.
it works fine.
have to make work around like this now. no idea why this problem only happen to my AMEO...
anyway, thanks for all of u!
royalmail said:
Does someone have the same problem like me?
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I have a similar problem. My device does not wake up in one case from 10 approximately.
Frequency of occurrence of a problem decreases if to close the phone's program compulsorily.
In other branch to me have told, that the problem can be because of the Active Sink's program. Have allowed advice to disconnect automatic start of this program. But I cannot check up because my program all the same is started if to switch off an option of the automatic device. :-(
hard reset can solve the problem completely. ;-)
I'm pleased to say that the 'button' tweak posted here has worked... So far!
Thanks Gents (and lasses if there are any).
That happened to me too yesterday.
I hard reset it and reinstalled everything to microdrive now. (trying to eliminate the possiblity of compaction thread) Removed SPB Pocket plus, which I've come to be quite suspecious by now. Also removed true VGA. So far I have not got a single freeze yet, touch wood. If it runs okay for a few more weeks with no freezing, will put back true VGA and see how it goes again. Will try to isolate the offending software bit by bit.
Hi,
I've had the same problem with my Advantage
After some weeks of test i have found how to solve the problem on my Advantage. perhaps it's only works on mine but you can try.
i have installed "all" progs on memory and not on microdrive. on microdrive i have only a few exe like wififofum or progs not intend to run when i turn my Athena off.
then no more problem waking up my athena.
I think the problem could be that microdrive cause a time out or thing like this when we wake up the PDA then athena freeze waiting about datas from microdrive.
then for me now it's programs like browsers, sscontact, traylaunchers etc .. => memory
programs like painting tool, etc ... => microdrive and close (kill process) them before sleep mode.
and all is ok now for me. The only freeze in 1 week was Pocket IE freezing (but the reason is pocket IE sucks)
There was actually another point that I forgot to mention concerning the freezing. I found out that the free miniSD card came with the bonus pack was actually faulty. With the pocket mechanic professional benchmark, I managed to see only less than 200kb/s read and write! I did a hard reset, and installed everything on microdrive, and touch wood, I have not got a single reset or freezing yet these two days. I install nothing into memory, as we all know that it takes up to 2 seconds to write a block of data into NOR ROM, which is why we should always shift our directory of IE cookies/history/cache away from the main memory. Since the main memory (NOR ROM) is good for executing program in place but terrible in writing, Microsoft's MikeCal thinks we should not keep any data there. (See this thread: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx ). I try to keep the memory as free as possible to minimise compaction thread kikcing in. Will see how it goes in the next couple of weeks and take on from there.
I'm happy to confirm that, after a weeks testing, the button 'fix' seems to have resolved the issue! Thanks all.
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
Attaching USB cable. No change.
Attaching keyboard. No change.
Calling phone. No change.
Soft reset. Starts ok.
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
However, I suspect ActiveSync.
The unit was attempting to Sync every 5 minutes, while connected with a USB cable. I therefore followed advise (read elsewhere) to create a dummy server to allow an ActiveSync schedule to be created, then deleted.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246522
This is coincident with the start of the problem.
Regards
Devany said:
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
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I had same problem once I enabled Key Lock function.
However, once I disable key lock, it works fine again.
I got my HTC Universal yesterday, hence the newbie tag, feel free to point me at any wiki or faq that will help me, my first most pressing issue is that if the phone sleeps (i.e. left for a few minutes in battery mode) it forgets that the SD card is inserted and after waking it i have to eject and reinsert. I can live with reinserting after a restart or soft reset but this is really annoying. How can i get around it?
Edit Solved : Turned out to be a dodgy SD card and nothing wrong with the HTC!
cycloid said:
I got my HTC Universal yesterday, hence the newbie tag, feel free to point me at any wiki or faq that will help me, my first most pressing issue is that if the phone sleeps (i.e. left for a few minutes in battery mode) it forgets that the SD card is inserted and after waking it i have to eject and reinsert. I can live with reinserting after a restart or soft reset but this is really annoying. How can i get around it?
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Welcome to the forum
Try to install Advanced Config, with that app you can turn of the disable sleep mode for SD but your battery will suffer the consequences, I have not that problem
Good luck,
And dont forget to vote!
I've figured out how to turn on/off sleep mode now and have got the hang of that but it'd still be great for it to auto-detect the SD card on waking from sleep, even if i have to run a tiny teeny app (via shortcut!) to force it to notice it, instead of having to physically unclick, wait, click, wait to use the sd card.
To conserve power i basically keep it in standby 90% of the time - as i don't use it as a phone - so this is actually a bit annoying.
Have you tried changing the SD-Type in Settings\System\SD Settings?
There is no "SD Settings" in Settings/System
(Windows Mobile 5.0
Version 5.1.159
Build (14847.2.0.0))
Do you use a SDHC Card?
install a sdhc driver may solve the problem
No, normal SD card