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I posted a while ago about this with no response. I'd really appreciate some kind of input or advice or anything.
There are those of us who don't like screen protectors on our imates. Of course, after a year, this leads to those little, annoying scratches that seem to magically appear. There's stuff on the market to rub these out; one such product is Displex. I'd like to know if anyone has any experience with these products or any other methods of removing these tiny scratches.
If you haven't had a response in a year, I'd imagine that is because most people like the anti-glare and improved writing surface that a screen protector offers <shrug>
I know those scratches you're talking about but the first thing I do is to get a film for my new device to keep up the resale value.
I know this is a personal preference, but what do you have against films? I can't actually think of a downside to them apart from the first two attempts where you get dust under them and it annoys you for a week before you calm down enough to try it again =)
Maybe you could try one of these polishes and tell us how good they are, after all this information seems to be somewhat lacking ... ?
Amen to that. Actually the good brands (though a bit more expensive) of screen protectors are so easy to apply. I bought a couple of the ultra clear ones from Brando and i'm still on my first for close to a year now. Every now and then I clean the film with rubbing alcohol.
Since I own a few Swatch watches and most of them have already scratched plastic faces, I bought the little tube of scratch remover. It gets the job done but a lot of pressure is required especially if the scratch is very deep. Since my hands got very tired, I then used a Dremel. Word of advise, don't set the Dremel at a high speed because it will melt the plastic.
I don't know if the Magician's screen has some sort of anti-glare coating. When I tried to remove the scratches on my older pair of eye glasses, the anti-glare coating was taken off wether rubbing it manually or using the Dremel.
i've had only bad experiences with screen protectors. I guess that's what i get for being a cheap ass. Plus the jam is my first pda, so i never really realized how much of a problem those scratches really are.
I suppose the solution is to try the Displex screen scratch remover and then slap on a Writeshield AG. Thanks anyway.
I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.
zerimar said:
I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.
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Absolutely. I once used scratch remover on my old XDA (Wallaby) and found it to be efective in removing the scratches. Problem - in the area where i removed the scratches the display was compromised - it looked like a prisma of kinds, kinda like when you little drops of liquid on an cathode ray tv - you could see little bits of red green and blue.
I think some kind of layer was removed causing this. So really try it on a corner before you go for the entire screen.
And another word, if you are not familiar with using a Dremel, NEVER use it for cleaning or polishing of plexiglass. I ruined a swatch with that. Used it even at a low speed, but the polishing wheel made the plexi so hot the watchglass actually looked like a bumpy road. Had it professionally repolished at a jewelers place, but by doing this the plexi had got so thin that i broke after a while...
Dremel and plexi - no good in my opinion.
i have a few scratches that came with my magician (i didnt pay a cent for the scratches ). let us know how you go.
BTW, has any one used car polisher for such a task? I heard (not sure how correct/accurate), that its possible to remove small scratchs from cds wih car polisher? I wonder if it works for lcds.
now how is man enough to try it out in there magicians hay :lol: :lol:
I bought an el cheapo one from ebay and not only does it feel horrible to the touch the edges are starting to fray. I had bought one for my ppc 6700 like 2 years ago that looked like nothing was on the screen and had great tactile feedback, which ones do you recommend for our kaisers?
I have purchased many screen protectors from cheap sites as well as expensive ones. My favorites are the ones from InvisibleShield. They are a bit more expensive, but they are very precisely cut and last a long time. If they ever get scratched you can get them replaced for free as well. I have not tried BodyGuardz, however, which are the same price, but you get two instead of one in the package.
I like the Boxwave Cleartouch a lot.
If you are anything like me, buy the three pack because you'll probably mess up at least one putting it on. While they say you can wash and reuse them, I don't think it's worth it.
That and a can of compressed air to blow the dust off before you put it on and you should be good.
Side note about using a compressed air can - don't use the straw. I had it blow off directly at my screen and thought my screen was permanently damaged. Thankfully, I had been using the screen protector that came with the tilt which has a bit of adhesive on it, so I only "scratched" the adhesive.
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I have purchased many screen protectors from cheap sites as well as expensive ones. My favorites are the ones from InvisibleShield. They are a bit more expensive, but they are very precisely cut and last a long time. If they ever get scratched you can get them replaced for free as well. I have not tried BodyGuardz, however, which are the same price, but you get two instead of one in the package.
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I have one of the InvisibleShield HD ones on mine, it is really crisp/clear, doesn't really show fingerprints at all, and its been on my phone for a few months now, and still looks like new.
The only thing I'm not sure of, is that it seems like it may reduce some of the sensitivity of the touchscreen because it is thicker, YMMV though.
I also have the bodyguardz themselves on too, and I'm not nearly as impressed, I'm probably going to pick up one of the Seidio slim rubberdized cases, just trying to spread out the accessory cost right now
I like...
... the one it came with. Still looks new.
im in the UK, i buy 3 screen protectors for asda for £2.99 (guessing thats about $5), so id guess walmart would be a good place to look for cheap ones.
ive had to cut it down to size for my hermes but the screenie i have on it has last over a year
ive also put these screenies on family and friends phones and cameras, no one come back to yet complaining.
My first windows mobile device was in 2002 and i tried every cover for it. From cheap ones to a couple of the more expensive ones. One of which was the PocketPCTECHS writeshield protector.
I bought the double pack, which came with the Antiglare one, and the Crystal Clear one. I applied the Crystal Clear one and it was amazing... i never used the anti-glare till i got my next device and threw it on that one.
They are very durable, can barely tell they're there and are just amazing...
But for my kaiser, i just ordered the invisibleshield for the entire device so i thought, why not let me try their screen protector out and see how it holds up.
so till i try out the invisibleshield, i'm still recommending pocketpctechs.
Martin Fields. As long as you install it properly (cleaning part is very important), you don't even know it is there.
This topic has been covered numerous times before:
Martin Fields Screen Protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358845
What is the best thing to protect my screen?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353006
Invisibleshield - Does it affect touchscreenability?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353394
liquid screen protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352818
ClearTouch Crystal Screen Protectors - How Do I Remove?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349407
Using another screen protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344452
Brando screenprotectors available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329280
Expert Shield screen protectors are just as good as the Martin Fields and a fraction of the price. You can get it for $7.25 shipped.
I have purchased from this ebay seller MANY times. Great communication and fast shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ES-Screen-Prote...yZ116221QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
www.expertshield.com
Registry tweak for screen sensitivity really helps
Think if you using the highe durability thicker screen protectors the increased pressure sensitivity will help alot - am just using the one that came with the TILt on it and it greatly improves tactile feedback and response is almost instantaneous with very minimal pressure
Q: How do I increase the sensitivity of the touch screen?
A: If you want to increase the sensitivity of the touch screen, I recommend setting the registry key (HKLM\Drivers\?TouchPanel\Pressure Threshold) to 5000. It may seem a little high, but the response time is practically instant, and very little pressure required (still enough to avoid accidental presses).
thoughts concerning Martin Fields & Expert Shield protectors
Mine is another vote for the Expert Shield and/or Martin Fields.
Just got it at around seven bucks shipped from eBay. I (prior to this) ordered a Martin Fields and had a difficult time applying it to my Tilt without creating air bubbles. I'm clumsy. and I sneezed half-way through. It's definitely high quality and far better then what shipped with my Tilt. Anyway, I took it into the bathroom and left it to dry so I could attempt to re-apply it later. There, it promptly slipped into the space between the sink cabinet and the tub. Goodbye Martin.
* sigh *
The ES protector seems to be just as good - they're both excellently cut and you can't go wrong with either of them. I don't feel it impairs the screen at all - stylus and finger use ( I use my finger all the time ) are pretty much as it was without the protector. Maybe a tiny touch less sensitive, if you're picky....one can increase sensitivity to compensate. I myself did not find this necessary.
I hope this can be of use to anyone considering the choices. I think a screen protector is a must if you care about your device. I had little regard for my HTC 8125, which lived in my pocket up until last week. The screen held up pretty well, considering it's been to PPC Basra and back. It shared the pocket with my keys, various automotive tools, nuts, bolts, and large quantities of quarters.
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Mine is another vote for the Expert Shield and/or Martin Fields.
Just got it at around seven bucks shipped from eBay. I (prior to this) ordered a Martin Fields and had a difficult time applying it to my Tilt without creating air bubbles. I'm clumsy. and I sneezed half-way through. It's definitely high quality and far better then what shipped with my Tilt. Anyway, I took it into the bathroom and left it to dry so I could attempt to re-apply it later. There, it promptly slipped into the space between the sink cabinet and the tub. Goodbye Martin.
* sigh *
The ES protector seems to be just as good - they're both excellently cut and you can't go wrong with either of them. I don't feel it impairs the screen at all - stylus and finger use ( I use my finger all the time ) are pretty much as it was without the protector. Maybe a tiny touch less sensitive, if you're picky....one can increase sensitivity to compensate. I myself did not find this necessary.
I hope this can be of use to anyone considering the choices. I think a screen protector is a must if you care about your device. I had little regard for my HTC 8125, which lived in my pocket up until last week. The screen held up pretty well, considering it's been to PPC Basra and back. It shared the pocket with my keys, various automotive tools, nuts, bolts, and large quantities of quarters.
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Sorry to hear about your situation. I know I've screwed up a few of mine in the past. I have Expert Shield protectors on every device I've owned. Nokia 6820, 6822, E-70, PSP, my girl's Sony-Ericsson w850i, LG Shine, my friend's LG Chocolate and I've never had a problem with them.
I'm glad you enjoy yours as much as I do.
has anyone ever tried these?
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42588.html?gclid=CPeS1r25xZMCFSQtagodiEn8Cw
I got the Boxwave Cleartouch Crystal and the Anti-Glare, used both for two weeks and I settles on the Crystal..
I just don't like how the Anti-Glare makes the screen look, the Crystal on the other hand is like having nothing on the screen at all it's perfectly clear and well the Anti-Glare really wasn't Anti-Glare..
both are nice and thick and I didn't have to adjust the sensitivity on my Tilt either to use them
WriteShield
Hi,
Someone can say me if WriteShield Screen Protector fit exactly the screen size of the Kaiser without leaving some screen surface unprotected ? Or which one fit exactly the screen's size ?
Thanks in advance
Moo
Some of you people may find this gayish but I am worried about how "scratchable" is the screen?
Ok, I can live with the fingerprints, simply wiping the device from time to time, but having some scratches on that marwellous screen would be a real disaster.
So far I can rank some devicer in terms of hardness of their screens' plastic:
1) iPhone (some kind of glass or smth.. hard to scratch)
2) HTC Diamond / PRO (plastic, but pretty hard though)
3) SE Xperia X1 (plastic, but i get the feeling of nearly scratching it with my nails)
So, where would you guys think the Touch HD would be?
PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant.
Thank you.
anyone?........
gayish...???
gayish...??? what is that???
Not sure how you can expect accurate feedback on this (i.e actual resistance to scrathing rather than just a feeling) without someone actually testing it (possibly accidently) on thier lovely new gadget
Also:
"PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant."
To be honest, a well designed and well applied screen protector is practically invisible (imho). Particularly with flush devices, since you don't get the edge around the recess.
I just applied one to the wife's iPhone a couple of months back and she did not even notice it. But she also dropped the phone the other day and I think it's time to order a new protector. Perhaps the screen would have survived scratch free, but I'd rather not take that chance
Zuber
Just my thoughts, Zuber.
A good screen protector, applied carefully, with patience! is a great thing! I use the Javoedge screen protectors and they are excellent. Doesnt even feel as if its there!
Just put one on my wife's iPhone yesterday, and there is no difference between using the device with the screen protector, and its not looking one bit different to "without" it.
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
scratchable
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
Dont' have a lab that can do experiment and tell you the hardness....but one thing for sure, HTC screen is scratch resistant. Had it for 6months, kept my screen sparkling clean all the time by cleaning it with microfibre cloth everyday. Till now, not a single scratch can be seen...happy with it!
Was in a Mac shop once, the iPhone sales person demonstrated the hardness of iPhone sceen by scratching with a pair of Scissors. Any dude dare try this on THD???
All that I've done so far is to take a coin and scratch a THD dummy display set in the shop. Absolutely no issue.....and I believe the dummy screen is the same as the real device.
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I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
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Ouch! I'm very careful when placing my THD in pocket....may not be the same the next time I take it out!
try the zagg invisible shield..looks amazing and of good price. I am ordering one right now!
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I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
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hey,
seems you applied the GadgetShieldz on your HD. how it looks, is it scratch free?
regards
Zagg
I just bought my wife an iphone (2nd hand) which came with a Zagg shield (the whole phone not just the screen). Amazing stuff, seems unscratchable. The only thing with the full body shield is that it is impossible to get on 100% perfectly.....still....it's staying on and after a year (that's how old the phone is) the shield doesn't have a mark on it. There's a youtube video of someone scratching an iphone up with a set of keys and then attempting the same on one with a shield. Check it out...I was impressed.
There are threads about this in order forums, but I could not find one specifically for the a500. So I wanted to share with everyone.
I recently purchased the dagi p504 from amazon, and promptly returned it. The plastic circle tip was not smooth and flat, the spring held the plastic tip on slightly crooked, and the metal that was inserted into the plastic circle at the tip was done so in a way that seemed like they had to melt the plastic and then resolidify it. The casing seemed ok, but just about as good or bad as any other styli I have used. I do not know if I had a defective one, but i can't find out with returning it and rebuying it (no exchange offered when I emailed them). So I went into best buy and bought the Bamboo stylus.
I recommend against it. Im not going to go into a bunch of tech info about who what when where why or how, but will just give you my impression of it.
I like the build quality. Thick enough and enough of a texture on the paint job and metal casing to make it feel comfortable. Probably one of the best build qualities I have felt in a stylus. However, one of the stylus's selling points if that the tip is 6mm, vs "Competition's 8mm", but the casing made it feel more like a high quality marker than a pen which made it feel bigger all over than competitors.
The main issue, though, is the tip. I have used a few different stylus options and the 'spongy' tips always were a bit of a pain. I could deal with a big slightly inaccurate tip if the tip only held somewhat firm. The Bamboo stylus is rather spongy, and you have to put pressure to push in the spongy tip before it will respond with any real effect. Meaning you can't simply touch the stylus to the tablet and move it around without having to actually drag the tip around, meaning this detracts from the smoothness and ability to transition directions. It also causes me great concern in the it seems like the tip will rip or tear very easily, meaning the 30 dollar stylus becomes nothing more than a 30.00 metal casing.
The whole point of a stylus is that it will be more accurate and responsive than a finger. At least thats my whole point. I want to be able to draw in the sketchbook pro application and need to do rather details things. However, my finger is significantly more beneficial to this task than the bamboo stylus or the dagi stylus.
and I really wanted to love this stylus. I used the bamboo pen and touch tablet for many things, and I wanted this to be its tablet accessory.
I have an AYL Stylus coming for my wife here in a week, and going to test it out and see if it will work for me too and maybe get myself one.
Im still on the quest for a decent stylus.
I just wanted to share my experience with the stylus devices so that others can be informed a little more.
Dagi P504
Build Quality 6/10
Expected longevity 5/10
Accuracy 5/10
Comfort of using 4/10
Responsiveness 4/10
http://www.amazon.com/DAGI-Capacitive-Stylus-iPhone-P504/dp/B005HYBGKW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1316657816&sr=1-1
Bamboo Stylus:
Build Quality 9/10
Expected longevity 4/10
Accuracy 6/10
Comfort of using 9/10
Responsiveness 7/10
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004VM0SE6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_g23_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=058WTHB3CE2KW30MQ5EE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
AYL Stylus (got it pink for the wife):
No review yet since still waiting to receive.
http://www.amazon.com/Newest-Generation-Capacitive-Stylus-Warranty/dp/B004WBA79W/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1316657832&sr=1-4
I tried the Pogo Sketch, hated it. The tip felt cheap, spongy, and didn´t take long to start falling; the body s too thin (to my hands, anyway).
Then I bought a Griffin Stylus, it´s heavier than Pogo, but it feels right. They use a rubber tip, and it´s way a better product.
But I´m still hoping for a fine tip stylus, like the Bamboo pen.
The AYL is supposed to be fine tipped like the bamboo (although bamboo is smaller I believe), and the AYL has the same reviews as being spongy.
I dont mind a big tip, but I dont like it caving in just to put enough pressure on the screen to write, like the bamboo did.
I used to use a boxwave and it was ok, and had two of them, until my kids ripped the tips off both of tthem.
I also owns the DAGI P504 & P601 ... they works OK... not great but OK... maybe due to the fact that I have the Skinomi protector on... ( those scratch proof protector that takes water application....rubbery feels...etc
I also have this on pre-order and it's on its way... seem to be the same concept but less stress on the tip because it's ballpoint instead of spring
http://www.adonit.net/
They are also looking into sending out a different tip that works for those of us that have the rubbery protector ( Skinomi, Zagg, StealthGuard...etc )
get yourself a pre-order
Looks like what I want in a stylus. Really just more about the precision than anything else, and this looks good. Just wish it wasnt 'preorder' lol.
Could check out the Ostylus www.ostylus.com I don't have any personal experience with it, but have been tempted to order it. It *looks* fairly precise, and appears to have the line appear in the center circle which is very nice. But not 100% of the time it seems with the review. Definitely more expensive than most as well, but may be worth it.
Here's a review from Engadget on it.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/01/ostylus-capacitive-pen-review/
Just picked up the Wacom Bamboo stylus today for my A500. Not disappointed, but not as happy as I planned on being. Everything the OP stated is true regarding the amount of pressure needed for it to register on the screen.
Also, with no palm recognition on the tablet, it makes stylus writing/drawing rather useless.
I'm still going to keep it just in case. For .pdf annotations and signatures. Got it half off anyway.
So here is an update. The AYL stylus came last week, I believe. I wanted to give the wife and myself time to test it out before commenting on it.
The tip seems smaller than the bamboo, but I dont have the bamboo anymore so cannot do a side by side comparison, and the AYL doesnt exactly give specific steps. I could whip out a ruler....if I had one.
Overall though, it seems to be one of the finest tipped and bodies styli that I have used.
The drawback is that it still requires pressure to make it responsive. I know most people might be thinking "Of course it does", but I have used styli that were responsive just from the touch on the screen. The AYL, just like the bamboo, seems to have the tip formed in such a way that it not only required a little more push to be sensitive, but the tip seems to be more willing to cave in. I am thinking it may just be because they are smaller tips that most other styli and therefore it is more of a significant impact to using them to feel them cave in then other stylus.
My wife has used every other styli with me, bamboo and dagi, and she had the same opinion of them I did. However, the AYL seems to have grabbed her liking. She has been using it quite a bit for drawing and a variety of other things. Even my kids (2 1/2 and 1 1/2) seem to enjoy it. Mainly my older son. Havent quite caught my younger boy messing around with it yet lol.
Overall build quality is about average, tip is probably one of the better ones.
Build Quality 6/10
Expected longevity 6/10
Accuracy 7/10
Comfort of using 7/10
Responsiveness 7/10
hi guys,
I've been using hard-keyboard phones for the last 10 years or so. I've now got a Samsung galaxy s2 with Orange and i have a few problems which I'm hoping you guys can help me with.
1. The touch screen is extremely sensitive, so is there a way of reducing this?
2. Can you recommend a case/cover:-
a. which is not too expensive
b. can also protect the actual touch screen
c. makes the phone more thicker and easier to hold
Thank You
1. That's the point.
2. Check the accesories subforum. I've got a 2$ TPU case + screen protector. It's enough if you don't drop it
thanks TheSaw.
Even if it is made to be sensitive, not every person is the same, so surely just like people want a screen to be more sensitive, you'll get people wanting a screen to be less sensitive?
The accessories subforum is for USA and i live in the UK..any names or recommendations?
Yeah this should be in the Q&A or accessories sub forums really.. But regardless, Check Ebay for the Wave case.. comes in a range of colours, is sturdy and robust, makes the phone just a bit more bulky and substantial in the hand and is also ridged in quite a good way for a secure grip. Normally comes with a free screen protector too- the one I got with mine fits well and has endured since the phone's release date - I keep it in my pocket so expected to have to replace it before now.
Applying a screen protector will also reduce sensitivity although the decrease may be negligible... but if you can find a super-cheap nasty one I'm sure it will decrease performance more notably.
You could see if this thread helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262
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thank you very much for your advice guys.
@ propergood - i love the wave case...its cheap and seems to do the job...main issue is scratch to screen or phone. as you can understand, a person whom has used a hard-keyboard phone for years, its way too sensitive, so i think i'd be okay with less sensitive. If i bought 2 screen protectors, could i double them by sticking one on top of the other, to make it more thicker, i.e. less sensitive?
@ aceofclubs - that app simply calibrates the screen, right? If so, then i'm not looking for that...i'm wanting an app which allows me to adjust how sensitive the screen response should be...is there such an app?
Also guys, if i rooted my samsung s2, would i be able to backup my original Orange/Samsung FW? And would Orange find out? I don't want to void the warranty.
I think it's underestimated how resilient these phones are to be honest...
While it probably would further reduce sensitivity I wouldn't advise trying to double layer screen protectors... at least not without limitless patience and about 10 protectors to try/retry with.
The bezel around the wave case does enough for me to keep the screen off surfaces when laid face down.. If you want full front coverage you'd need to get a flip style case or holster, which personally I find to be impractical, and my feeling is that these type of cases don't really provide full protection from direct pinpoint pressure on the screen area anyway. (I had a hard holster for my old blackberry, screen cracked anyway as I leaned over a rail a bit too hard...)
If you happen to want a belt clip type thing though this looks an interesting alternative...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RUBBERIZE...Accessories&hash=item519b9751f4#ht_5575wt_943
the belt clip case is great, but its not protect the front screen and when i say protecting, i mean from scratches or pressure.
so i assume you also have an s2? if so, then what app do you use to secure the phone? i want to do online banking and want a safe protection...i.e. it should be extremely hard for someone to break into the phone if they get hold of it.