can i run and make program in turbo c and c++ using my pocketpc? what software? please tell me, i need it in my school
I don't think it can create binaries for the ARM processor. so no.
use embedded visual c++ from microsoft, or gcc with target arm-wince-pe.
It is possible to run old DOS progs under Pocket DOS. I think that TurboC itself can be run under this emulator so you can program directly on your PocketPC.
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I use Visual Studio 6 and 2005 at work, and was wondering what development environment you use for writing applications etc, for the Exec. I installed WinCE C++ v4.0 yesturday and the .exe built for the ARM processor wouldn't run!
Dev env for WMobile 5
Visual Studio 2003 or 2005 work fine.
(you can get the "academic" version if you are a student for less than £50)
with 2003 you have to make smartdevice projects and write them in c#
in 2005 you should be able to do MFC and win32 in c++ as well
Thanks.
Which ever IDE you use, you need to download Pocket PC SDK from MS (it's free) for Window Mobile 5.
You can also use eVC 4, but you need to install SP 4 for it, and PPC SDK for Windows Mobile 2003 (it won't recognise WM5 SDK).
Sorry to be a pain but I have not written software targeted at WinCE/WM before.
I have installed eVC4, Microsoft Pocket PC 2003 SDK, SP3 and SP4. I can debug with the Pocket PC Emulator fine, but when I try to debug or install in release mode on the O2 Exec (which is connected) I get the following warning dialog: "CE platform pocket pc 2003 does not match remote os version 501". :?
I do not want to write software for the PPC using .NET (although I write in C# at work, as well as MFC/ATL C++), as in my opinion the PPC isn't fast enough for managed code. So how can I write apps' for the O2 Exec using eVC4 :?:
Hi VZ800!
You are right about .NET, those apps are more sluggish then native code.
Don't worry about the warning, just click yes, then you going to get another warning, something about CPU type, click yes on that one two.
The eVc *****es because it's not familiar with WM5 devices, but your program will run fine. In fact, I used eVc 3, to write programs for WM5 that were backwards compatible with WM 2002 and they worked fine (although eVc 3 can't connect to the device so I had to copy the exe manually).
The debugger should work as well, though I try to avoid it since it some times takes a long time to connect.
If all you need is some debug prints, no watches or brake points, you might be better off writing to a file with the old fopen, fprintf, funcs. which come in both ASCII and Unicode (wfprintf) versions.
Good luck!
Thanks, I'll give it another go tomorrow.
Hi all...well, i tried to search at google without luck, any software that let m program in a ppc...(sorry for bad english but im portuguese )..well i would like to make program lines in my pda with any program, and then compile it and run it in a "command line" style...or even in visual basic style...it could be c++ or visual basic... (by the way i've just started programming...
thanks in advance
your options are
pocket gcc free
ebedded visual c++ / vb free
visual stuio 2005 and up not free unless you get the express version
Rudegar said:
your options are
pocket gcc free
ebedded visual c++ / vb free
visual stuio 2005 and up not free unless you get the express version
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so i can install that programs on my ppc and program with them ?
can i also compile and run the programs that i make with that list ?
no those are pc tools to make programs for pocketpc
if you wanna compile on the pocketpc itself(maybe a bit slow as 400Mhz arm cpu is not really faster then 120Mhz pentium cpu)
http://www.geocities.com/hrowson/wm5_software/index.htm
http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-pocket-vic-v1-10.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wince-xcompile/
http://weblogs.asp.net/pleloup/archive/2004/06/09/151853.aspx
huum...
thanks for that list of programs
but what i really need is an app that let me program on my ppc...like when i'm travelling and want to make any small program...is there any software for that ?
yes all the links i posted in the 2th post is just that
can i program vb language with any of them ?
no
c#
or c++
Rudegar said:
no
c#
or c++
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i really appreciattd your help
thanks man
i want software for programming in c++
in all ur links i cannot find any software that will help me none of these run.
the cross compiler is .tar file how can i install it on my ppc
please help waht can i do
Check out the wiki pages
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Complete list of Development links and resources
Specifically
Pocket C#, Pocketgcc, Basic4PPC, and ETCL all will let you program on your phone.
Hi @ll codejunkies
i want to start developing/programming without the .NET CompactFramework for our WM5/WM6 Devices..
Till now, i used Visual Studio 2005, but i think with .NET the program is only "interpreted". Now i want to compile a program that don´t need the Framework for .NET.
So my question: Which Programming Languages are available to develop this "real" exe-Programs?? and what GUIs and Compilers i can use for it?
thanxx 2 @ll
The only real option without using runtime libraries such as the .NET framework is C++.
Is therefor a SDK?
You use the same SDK you were using all along. Infact, you can even use the same Visual Studio you were using all along. Just select Visual C++ on project type, and select smart device solution, and you're ready to go! . You'll have to have extensive use of the win32 api to get started though. The basics are EXACTLY the same as the desktop version.
on the microsoft Homepage i found out, that the SKD for WM6 only support .NET???
how can i then develop and compile then to native code, without use .NET Framework????
nEuDy said:
on the microsoft Homepage i found out, that the SKD for WM6 only support .NET???
how can i then develop and compile then to native code, without use .NET Framework????
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The SDK supports C++ as well. Visit the MSDN site for technical documentation.
nuEdy: It`s not true, SDK has tools and documetation for managed and of course native development.
As mentioned above. Embedded C++ version 4.0. Free download from the Microsoft website. Compiles for the WM 2003 SE platform SDK included in this download. Without .NET you will have to use the standard WIN32 application model, responding to WM_XXXXXX messages via WIN32 API calls. If you haven't done this before, you will have a long hard slog to master it, but the results are worth it. Start by looking at the code created by the hello world app until you understand what the hell is going on. Release .EXEs can be run directly under the WM6 SDK as this is a true ARM emulator, not the half way x86 code used by the 2003 SE SDK.
Stick to two menubar items and WM6 will display them either side of the keyboard icon as per WM6 Apps. More than two and the menubar appears in WM2002/3 mode.
Anybody can help me microsoft visual basic on my smartphone windows 6
you mean you need
1. the old embedded visual basic which run on the pc and make vb programs you can use on your device?
2. you need a vb compiler which run on the device itself?
3. you need visual studio 2005/2008 to make vb.net programs for your device?
I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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WHAT kind of applications you are trying to write?
Do you need to write a device driver for your PDA?
ronschaefer said:
I need help - I want to start writing programs for my Tilt. Looking through the posts it seems the C++ is the way to go. I found a bunch of nice tutorials on the web on how to program in C++ but not now to write a program for a pocket pc.
Specifically I need help with which programs to download.
Im looking for a list like this of exactly what I need to get
1. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ 4.0.
2. Microsoft embedded Visual C++ SP4
3. Microsoft pocket pc 2003 sdk.msi
4. Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 Device Emulator
or what ever
Thanks I tried to figure this out on my own but got frustrated after installing like 7 different programs. Seems like you should only need 1 program but it seems like you need to download a bunch.
Also with the Embedded Visual C++ program I dont see where to enter your code - like open workspace or something?
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You should be able to do it with visual studio and the emulator, im not 100% sure though, I only know a limited amount of Java.
Most phones support .net/C#/Java, so pick a language
What I want to write
Just some fun stuff =
One idea I had is a generic sound simulator, tie buttons to different sound - .wav files; animal sounds, machine sounds, phasor blasts, drum kit, theme music like - http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/illuminated/a5bf/
I want to have it look nice too with decent graphics.
i suggest to use Visual Studio 2005 or 2008.
It's simplest way to start (and continue) to write programs.
Both native and NET technologies are supported. C++ and C# available.
Both VS versions are coming with integrated Device Emulator with WM5(VS2005) and WM6(VS2008) images for PDA/PDAPhone/SP and remote debugger for real PDA/PDAPhone/SP devices.
If you are using VS2005/2008. Download the latest Windows Mobile 6 SDK (Standard and Pro) for the best Emulation.
Ta
Dave
but c# only works with .net
where c++ works with win32(native) microMFC(Native) and .net
more info can be found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380069&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382995&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=226412&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336251&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305926&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302548&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=228043&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317913&highlight=programming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=237932&highlight=programming
yes, С# is for NET only. This language appeared together with NET technology as alternative to Java after breakup with SUN
C# is closer to BASIC than C++. I, personally, don't recommend C#. Ths "strange" language is for lazy people. Almost nothing left of C++ and its ideology.
Visual Studio 2008 Pro trial version
Thanks for you advice - i deleted all that embedded C++ stuff - was way too confusing, must have had like 8 programs installed and still was not working - I like the idea of just 3 things the visual studio and the 2 WM6 SDKs
Im going to try the visual studio 2008 - there is a trial version of it for 90 days
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/products/aa700831.aspx
Would i be better off with the 2005 version as Im using Xp not Vista on my main computer. Should I get the Try Visual Studio "Team System" 2008 - Trial Software or just stick with the regular one i downloaded?
I also downloaded the standard and professional WM6 SDKs
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...745-88EF-3D48091A390B&displaylang=en#filelist
I used embedded visual tools in the past (3 and 4). Be aware that you cannot use the WM5 SDK with eVC, you must use Visual Studio for that. The latest thing usable with eVC is the WM2003 SDK, as far as I know. Also, the emulator handling in eVC was quite sluggish and buggy. When I switched to VS2005, it was like a deliverance to me. Also, the help system in VS is a blessing. *g*
Though I used Delphi's VCL in the past, I would never freely touch such a thing on restricted hardware such as in PDAs. Hence, .NET, MFC and of course *cough* Java *cough* are out of the question. I'm a pure C++ writer. The progs are nicely small and fast. And there are always alternatives to the things I can't use because of that: for instance instead of MFC CStrings I got acquainted with STL library's strings. There's also ATL which supposedly can be used instead of MFC for GUI programming, but when I looked for it some years back I found only very little information about that.
Happy coding.
Is it true that you can only develop WinMo C++ in VS Pro?
I read on the Microsoft marketplace that the standard edition dosnt support mobiles..
are there any alternatives (C++ only please..)
yes they only support through pro... but you can get it for free through dreamspark if you are a student
joel2009 said:
yes they only support through pro... but you can get it for free through dreamspark if you are a student
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damn, I am a student but my uni isnt listed
I asked one of the admins and they are looking into getting on the list
But it might be too late coz its my last year..
Mic159 said:
damn, I am a student but my uni isnt listed
I asked one of the admins and they are looking into getting on the list
But it might be too late coz its my last year..
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Good news. My uni isn't listed either. It is a simple matter of verifying your student status on journey ed. I'm glad I could help with this because it turns out that I could get all the dreamspark software through my school's MSDNAA program anyways.