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Hi all,
Ive just upgraded from a universal so greetings to you all. What a big difference this machine is, That screen is simply awesome. I'm not a noob to flashing and unlocking, and a big believer in the search and donate button so no problems there, my only questions are more of a choice nature. the first one is does anyone have an opinion on carrying the thing, my universal had a belt loop on the case and it hung on my side no problems. Ive yet to see one for the Athena. my other question is, my machine is a T-mobile Ameo with a very plain WM6 ROM on it, is there a ROM that you can suggest that is better looking and has better features on it? Ive found a few on this site but experience is worth a lot. The universal has numerous Roms on WM6 for it, but not many were without bugs, and its memory had its limits. It is still a very capable machine. Many thanks
Take care
Jay
I use this case and it works very well for me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355416 but others have chosen different ones with equal satisfaction.
I think you'll be spoilt for choice when come to ROM. PK is also working on a much anticipated PK4 due sometimes these few weeks. If you're into switching ROM, no harm just researching on unlocking your phone first for the time being. Immediately even without switching ROM you could already make giant step improvements on how it looks and works by installing the right software for it, such as wktask, realVGA, etc, while waiting. There is also the option of wm6.1 while waiting....
Memory limit will always be there (at least it is for me), so I install everything out of the device memory unless the program forces me to install it on the device. I also tend to do the same if the program is a today plugin, in order to speed up the soft reset procedure. Sometimes, even if a program is installed on say a microdrive, it would still place something into the device memory. Doing that, I have just less than 20 MB left in my RAM at the moment. However, I'm probably not a typical user, with close to 70 installed program on my device, and 30 more which just sit in the microdrive, ready to be installed if I need them occassionally.
As for bugs, I don't encounter too many, but you got to by experience weed out those applications which gives problems. Generally, the problems are with the applications rather than the device or the ROM.
Hope this helps.
responderman said:
Hi all,
Ive just upgraded from a universal so greetings to you all. What a big difference this machine is, That screen is simply awesome. I'm not a noob to flashing and unlocking, and a big believer in the search and donate button so no problems there, my only questions are more of a choice nature. the first one is does anyone have an opinion on carrying the thing, my universal had a belt loop on the case and it hung on my side no problems. Ive yet to see one for the Athena. my other question is, my machine is a T-mobile Ameo with a very plain WM6 ROM on it, is there a ROM that you can suggest that is better looking and has better features on it? Ive found a few on this site but experience is worth a lot. The universal has numerous Roms on WM6 for it, but not many were without bugs, and its memory had its limits. It is still a very capable machine. Many thanks
Take care
Jay
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Welcome! You'll find that this is a generally congenial group at least most of the time, with a wealth of knowledge.
As to ROMs, I have to say PK3 Dual works very nicely until we get the next version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346221
I particularly like RealVGA which is integrated into the ROM, running at 192 dpi. Gives you the advantages of the big screen but at a reasonable size. Note, if you are under 30 you can probably ignore this last advice!
Agan, there's lots of info on these boards but takes a lot of sleuthing! When in doubt, just ask. But start with, "I know this may have been answered already..." Then you are less likely to endure the flames that "certain people" seem to enjoy. Good luck!!
Thanks
Hi again
Well thanks for the heads up on the rom and the case, the PK 3.0 rom looks much better than the drab T-mobile one so I shall give it a go. The unlock tool worked well and followed to the letter had no supprises for me. Not sure about the £1.000.000 donation though Oli. I now have the start for a bit of experimenting. The case is the style I needed but how hard wearing is the neopreen?
Take care
Jay
responderman said:
Hi again
Well thanks for the heads up on the rom and the case, the PK 3.0 rom looks much better than the drab T-mobile one so I shall give it a go. The unlock tool worked well and followed to the letter had no supprises for me. Not sure about the £1.000.000 donation though Oli. I now have the start for a bit of experimenting. The case is the style I needed but how hard wearing is the neopreen?
Take care
Jay
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if you a do it your self kinda of guy, then maybe you can go this route... i attached some pic of what i did to the standard case so i could put in on my belt
OH if you looking for some cool apps hit up these two links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369281
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364366
I wonder how many people will agree with me. I have spent the last several months playing around with different ROMs -- both 6.1 and now 6.5. I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM (I admit that I have 20-odd programs and lots of tweaking to do which I cannot automise) and have decided that this is really a waste of time. I am neglecting ACTUALLY WORKING on my phone (I have several projects going; one is compiling a dictionary). My family has also suffered from lack of attention. I find that when I wake up, the first thing on my mind is: Is there a new ROM for me to download today?
So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5. I think this is the way forward for me. Of course, I just might give in to temptation as the ROMs get better -- who knows? And I will always be grateful to the cooks.
I wonder how many people would agree with what I have just written; would love to read your comments... Thanks
I fully agree with you. I haven't used a single cooked ROM yet, still I have a lot to do with finding the right software for my phone, installing it, uninstalling it again, adjusting the settings, etc. It consumes a LOOOT of time and it definitely has a great impact on my life at this time. Hope that I will have everything I need soon
I would agree if the new roms brought nothing to the table but after using itje's 4.5 rom i can't say i agree. That was just a spectacular development.
I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
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I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
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I couldn't have said it better.
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For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5.
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Where did you get a calculator from 6.5? I'm looking for a nice free calculator and that sounds nice
Beside, I agree with you, I think it will coast a lot of time, I didn't install a custom ROM and I'll wait for the official R3AA Rom, I think the custom ROMs are great, and I'm a lot browsing through the threads, but I do need a lot of time...
I agree with you.
I have tried most of the english ROMs for X1. And i tell you the best ROM is the official generic ones(generic UK in my case)
Almost all the cuztom roms out now have problems, little bugs here and there. I like Jacks ROMs best, because he always tries to perfect his ROM. Even the little enhancment tweaks which are posted here, they are not worth it.
Just stick with the official stuff and use the product that are made good developers (like HTC and SPB)
I for one am pretty happy with the nX1i ROM. Its lite and works like a charm.
But yea...its pretty darn annoying to have to install everything back into the device.
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I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM.
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5 hours? Did you use UC to automate the install process? I had UC for almost everything (e.g. software install, software registration w/ registry or file copying, shortcut moving, customization ....etc) and it take about 20 mins and require no attention. It may take some time beforehand for UC, but worth it since the one time process will work for any UC custom rom w/ any device (w/ minor change) in the long run.
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So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff
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Isn't that you are doing the same thing except it's just on a stock rom (and no UC to automate yr process)?
I am not either a flashing fun.
I ve had 2 WM phones b4 (MIO & ETEN) with very buggy official ROMs. And a good custom ROM could give tones of added value at these old times.
But with X1 things are different. The latest version of the official ROM is quite good. Not any serious issues.
A good reason to flash a custom rom could be if u like Manila (which I don't)
ATM, I am using nX1i which is actually same as the official, except some junks removed and some newer version apps and I am very happy with it.
right guys,iv had my hd2 for a few months now and feel the time is right for a change.im going to flash my phone today but im not sure which rom to use.id quiet like the one that has a few more shortcut icons but id like to keep the weather animations in.what rom would you suggest i go for..?.
cheers....
Sorry mate,
in this question, you are alone. You must choose ROM yourself.
In every other question you get lot of answers from many members, and we will be glad to help you.
Maybe you can start with ROMs and cookers with many posts......
They are close to stock ROMs, but faster,smoother and general better.
You will find your way.
Cheers
Sorry for my English.
It's a personal choice really, they are all great roms
I have not used all the cooked roms but I can give you my opinion on the ones I used
my first cooked was from kwbr .. it was really good, but it hanged once in a while..
my 2nd rom was from laurentius26.. at the time the version was much more stable but it lacked a few of the goodies I had with kwbr's.. it also had a problem with right to left language support
kwbr stopped cooking and forwarded his fans to sternas.. I started trying his roms which were extremely up to date... his was good on right to left spacing and was pretty stable but not as fast as laurentius26's
ever since I have been changing from versions of one of these 2 great cooks to the others in order to find the one that does it for me... I currently use Artemis 4.0 (by sternas) ... my next rom will either be his version 6.0 or laurentius26's 3.0.. either is great really.
kwbr is also cooking again but he has been off the forums for a while and I am currently loyal to these 2 as they have spent more time on their masterpieces ... as for shortcuts, it is an easy tweak which you can add to any rom.
hope it helps
cheers
this question has been asked like 999999999times now...
the answer is VERY SIMPLE, the best ROM is in the eye of the beholder.
they are all very good and the choice is personal rather then witch one is the best.
If you don't like to make a choice yourself I can make this choice for you.
Go with smaberg's rom!
I'm alternating maesus / smaberg and currently waiting for maesus 1.8 to be released.
ps, please don't ask why!
Don't worry, NRGZ28 has no plans to retire yet (I hope ). This thread may get closed or may only get a few replies, but your feedback is appreciated if you would be kind enough to post a few words...
It's not one of the usual "which ROM should I choose threads". I'm experienced here enough not to annoy you all that much!
The problem is that since I flashed my first EnergyROM on my Diamond or TP (can't remember which), I can't divert from them. Great for NRGZ28...that's obviously the desired effect, but I see so many other ROM threads in these fora, and it's obvious so many people choose them over EnergyROMs for one reason or another. Basically, I like the fact that they look great and come "fully-loaded", and a big thing for me is that the latest WM build (currently 23563) is used to cook from. A "stock" or "lite" ROM isn't much good to me as I would just fill it with all the same stuff anyway, only not being cooked in it probably wouldn't all work together so well.
What I'm asking for is what others are using instead of EnergyROM and why.
What I'm most worried about is that I'm so stuck on EnergyROMs that I might be missing something else. I recognise completely that all of the ROM chefs are super talented in what they do and I wouldn't know where to begin in cooking myself. I mean I like to think that I'm pretty well techie-minded, but the thought of ROM cooking hurts my head! All those XIP and SYS and pagepools, lua script & manila files, all the ExtROM stuff that gets constantly updated that I wouldn't be able to get hold of, not being in the right circles. I just can't bring myself to try because I know it could always be better.
But also, I don't like to constantly flash all the time, once a week is enough I think and this is what keeps me from testing other ROMs.
Thanks for reading and I hope I didn't just waste 2 minutes of your life and a few kilobytes on the xda server! I'm sure there are more "EnergyROM addicts" out that are wondering if anything else compares.
Whatever ROM you choose you will be missing something. The right question is:
Can I live without that feature/application/tweak/theme/etc?
Choosing custom ROM over stock has its obvious advantages. Using stock has its advantages also: warranty is not violated, you have support from manufacturer etc.
Custom ROMs are different story. They are made by individuals according to their taste: from eye-candy (or lack of it) to choice of apps and tweaks.
EnergyROMs have nice eye-candy, they are nicely optimized with good app choices. There are ROMs that are faster. There are ROMs that are close to stock look, so you can modify it according to your own taste. There are ROMs with no additional apps so you can install exactly what you need. Some chiefs refresh their ROMs more frequently than NRGZ28, so you get new build faster.
Personally, I stick to the "good old" 21XXX builds and flash only when there is important update in newer build. Something like improvement in speed or some feature that is important to me (battery life, newer Office build, or fix for something that was not working as it should).
EnergyROMs are used by many so bugs and problems are found much faster and, consequently, fixed faster.
I have tried almost all other ROMs but for some reason, EnergyROM on HD2 presents for me, personally, perfect combination of looks, features, stability and battery life.
You make some very valid points...am I right in considering you an EnergyROM addict too?
In fact all of what you have said is completely my way of thinking. Although I use the 23XXX builds. For some reason I have some (un)healthy compulsion to have the latest of everything, which is one of the main reasons I use EnergyROM in the 1st place (and I also why I bought a HD2 when I had a perfectly good TP2, much to my wife's dismay!
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I couldn't go back to having the "Start" and "X" buttons at the top. That's SO 4 months ago!
Anyone else wanna throw anything in?
Admire al chefs but..
Yes, I admit I have a NRG addiction as well.....
I do try other chef's cooking as well, especially because NRG takes the time to release new builds, and others come out with theirs earlier. I find myself time after time going back to his, either 'downgrading' or flash one of his as soon as they come out.
What other ROMs I try?
I would categorize them like this:
1. Eye candy - Some chefs here are extremely talented is combining their own looks, or co-operating with people with high skills of developing beautiful looking screens.
2. Performance - I always look for a ROM that will have no lag , be memory efficient (not that the HD2 lacks any) , and one without bloating.
I think the appeal NRG ROMS has on me (at least) is the combination of the Italian beauty (see the cars they make) and the German precision. On top NRG is here in the US, and it gives him another advantage for me. Not sure if he is on AT&T or not, but until now any recommendation he has (like going back to 2.07 radio) was a great advice.
I try from time to time Miri's , Tom Codon's , IT's (sorry, not on this forum any more, but still a great chef) and Dutty's, even some others. All are great piece of work, and I do want to take the opportunity and thank all of them, but as stated - NRG's are always the ones I finally keep on my phone, and dare travel with..
i think there are some fundamental differences in chefs way of thinking.
I for one (and i know a few others who have stated as much) are cooking primarily for ourselves. we just choose to share the work. I will listen to requests, and if it is valid that it gets taken care of. Of course bugs affect everyone, so they take a priority.
Many other Chefs seem to "cook for the masses" and therefore appeal to a wider audience.
I dont think it is any any way fair to consider one chef over another by something as simple as post count on their rom thread (not saying you do this its just an observation).
If you feel comfortable with a style of rom, there is nothing wrong with sticking to it. but as you say, it never hurts to look, and so you have.
Going back time and again to one chef is more a compliment to that person, and nothing to be concerned over.
matmaneyre said:
But also, I don't like to constantly flash all the time, once a week is enough I think and this is what keeps me from testing other ROMs.
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I flash every morning (atleast)...sometimes even before taking a crap
Anybody knows any bone diseases I may end up with, please warn me !
On the better side of the thread intention , I for one personally end up with a Clean rom with no extra apps so I can make it my 'own'.
Always two sides to a coin... or many sides to a paper note if you fold it
here is the story,i have been working on a windows mobile ROM for few days and still i have no idea if any one is really interested to look to other Roms for his phone other than the original,i dont release any screenshots yet,still working on homepage,but all i can say is:
i have held onto lightness of the rom as much as possible
i dont run tweaks on my Roms
style of the ROM is totally new and never been out and its suitable for all microsoft windows users.
after being a programmer of .NET application for near 6 years ever since i was only 14,and before that i was joint the basic game development group,i can say i got some experiences in XNA game development framework and Compact .NET framework,so in everyrom i provide some applications including the updates (which are written by me,applications and updates both togather),for example now im working on a vista style calculator, Folder-explorer and applications like that,and i believe such things are impossible in some way for windows phone 7 due to its limitations.
so generally my questions is that : any of you are interested to see this rom?in next 48 hours i might be complete with designing process and then if you guys confirmed and liked it,i could start programming some non-WM style applications,applications with totally new visuals and ideas,
thanx
with respect to all ROM cookers on this forum
--->>>>>Update on 5/24/2010 2:07AM (UTC+8.00) : Head on to the new thread on :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687144
forgot to mention the ROM version : 6.5 Professional
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
a unique yet powerful suggestion will be delivery ( pm ) to you soon
icsulescu said:
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
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+1 welcome new chief
an Introduction to team
Thanx for your responses til now ,and i have to introduce me and myfriend and his is also a ROM editor,my name is arman ,and my friend is Rouzbeh,he has been member here for few months but im new in XDA,simply 'newbie',so we officially start our thread about the process of the rom ,and it's screenshots
if you have any software idea that you would like to have it included in the next fewer versions of the ROM ,its most welcome,and you can post it as a PM. i ty to put all my effort to make the idea out of .NET and myown Frameworks
Yes. Me and Arman, together we present the Prestige X series ROM. We are sure you will enjoy this ROM
Bring it on!!!
welcome to you new chief
PrestigeX said:
here is the story,i have been working on a windows mobile ROM for few days and still i have no idea if any one is really interested to look to other Roms for his phone other than the original,i dont release any screenshots yet,still working on homepage,but all i can say is:
i have held onto lightness of the rom as much as possible
i dont run tweaks on my Roms
style of the ROM is totally new and never been out and its suitable for all microsoft windows users.
after being a programmer of .NET application for near 6 years ever since i was only 14,and before that i was joint the basic game development group,i can say i got some experiences in XNA game development framework and Compact .NET framework,so in everyrom i provide some applications including the updates (which are written by me,applications and updates both togather),for example now im working on a vista style calculator, Folder-explorer and applications like that,and i believe such things are impossible in some way for windows phone 7 due to its limitations.
so generally my questions is that : any of you are interested to see this rom?in next 48 hours i might be complete with designing process and then if you guys confirmed and liked it,i could start programming some non-WM style applications,applications with totally new visuals and ideas,
thanx
with respect to all ROM cookers on this forum
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Definitely we all would love to see your work and be a part of it, so feel free to share your work and we all appreciate you for that.
i would love to see your work!
sounds very interesting!
3 Days ...
This ROM will take about 72 hours,
Currently, Im working on upgrading the base for using the latest packages, and Arman is Focusing on development of additional frameworks which will be included inside the rom
The good news is that the framework will be shared with developers who are interested in using it in their apps)
When the build is ready, we will close this thread & start a new one. until that time, all your Ideas and comments are welcome.
icsulescu said:
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
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+ 1, your welcome . so i can say for my experience, there are alot fo peopple that would like to see a complete and original stock rom just with manila upgrade or a complete original stock rom without sense (NO SENSE), There are already so many apps ,modification, tweaks cabs and more to customize a stock rom, PERSONALLY I LIKE 6.5 ROMS MOST
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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+ 1, your welcome . so i can say for my experience, there are alot fo peopple that would like to see a complete and original stock rom just with manila upgrade or a complete original stock rom without sense (NO SENSE), There are already so many apps ,modification, tweaks cabs and more to customize a stock rom, PERSONALLY I LIKE 6.5 ROMS MOST
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We will work on both 6.5 and 6.5.5 roms. I too prefer the 6.5 roms as they are lighter and more professional. but we will work on both editions, offering different versions (including lite, -with & without sense).
I appreciate your suggestion sir, thanks for sharing your experience
alfamini said:
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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I will inform arman about this, so he can work on this issue
We would like a beta-tester team who can help us to make a stable ROM. if anyone is interested, please let us know.
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imtiyazee said:
Definitely we all would love to see your work and be a part of it, so fell free to share your work and we all appreciate you for that.
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Thanks for your support
alfamini said:
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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Thanks for your response,just as an update ;
im now designing mostly .NET framework side of the ROM,for those of you who dont know what .NET framework is ,in very very simple means,its a set of components provided as default ,components can be like : listbox,buttons,textbox and so on ... or even DLLs(class libraries),
i got time this evening to settle all the proper tools for development ,we are still experiening,note that the first series of rom are classified ,just like Windows family classification .
we will be having:
- Business edition : light,fast,browser integrated,office tools and all tools related to the same field of this kind
- Basic : for those of you who wants it real simple,no additional set of tools or frameworks,and basically want the highest level of battery life.
- ultimate: last but not least,including all extras we have developed,from small utilities to huge ones,and both useful and developed based upon your ideas ,this edition will be including all the packages,this is for those who want it real featured!
note that the design is quite stable,we are not aiming to provide differently designed homepages,but instead one universal start page , and the difference is in their features,the difference will be really obvious.
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How will be the future of this ROM?
basically you just download a single file extract it,and run it,setup runs,firstly asks you for the edition of your choice and basically prepares the flash-program for you to directly flash the phone and get the rom to work
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only that our first rom is comming in a very simple shape,just a demonstration and when we are done with styles ,we will head straightly to functionality
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all i can say is that i am trying my best to keep your battery lifes at the maximum level by not running extra processes,but still implementing alot of features .
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AND we are not copying anyone's work in this forum and XDA or any other developer's work,we started a clean copy
Just :
rouzb3h said:
We would like a beta-tester team who can help us to make a stable ROM. if anyone is interested, please let us know.
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just as a note : beta-testers do not risk their phones,we do not push applications incomplete into the platform,beta-testers are those who could leave us direct comments and ideas about the current style of the applications,the ROM in each beta ,is totally Stable and this is promised by me