here is the story,i have been working on a windows mobile ROM for few days and still i have no idea if any one is really interested to look to other Roms for his phone other than the original,i dont release any screenshots yet,still working on homepage,but all i can say is:
i have held onto lightness of the rom as much as possible
i dont run tweaks on my Roms
style of the ROM is totally new and never been out and its suitable for all microsoft windows users.
after being a programmer of .NET application for near 6 years ever since i was only 14,and before that i was joint the basic game development group,i can say i got some experiences in XNA game development framework and Compact .NET framework,so in everyrom i provide some applications including the updates (which are written by me,applications and updates both togather),for example now im working on a vista style calculator, Folder-explorer and applications like that,and i believe such things are impossible in some way for windows phone 7 due to its limitations.
so generally my questions is that : any of you are interested to see this rom?in next 48 hours i might be complete with designing process and then if you guys confirmed and liked it,i could start programming some non-WM style applications,applications with totally new visuals and ideas,
thanx
with respect to all ROM cookers on this forum
--->>>>>Update on 5/24/2010 2:07AM (UTC+8.00) : Head on to the new thread on :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687144
forgot to mention the ROM version : 6.5 Professional
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
a unique yet powerful suggestion will be delivery ( pm ) to you soon
icsulescu said:
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
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+1 welcome new chief
an Introduction to team
Thanx for your responses til now ,and i have to introduce me and myfriend and his is also a ROM editor,my name is arman ,and my friend is Rouzbeh,he has been member here for few months but im new in XDA,simply 'newbie',so we officially start our thread about the process of the rom ,and it's screenshots
if you have any software idea that you would like to have it included in the next fewer versions of the ROM ,its most welcome,and you can post it as a PM. i ty to put all my effort to make the idea out of .NET and myown Frameworks
Yes. Me and Arman, together we present the Prestige X series ROM. We are sure you will enjoy this ROM
Bring it on!!!
welcome to you new chief
PrestigeX said:
here is the story,i have been working on a windows mobile ROM for few days and still i have no idea if any one is really interested to look to other Roms for his phone other than the original,i dont release any screenshots yet,still working on homepage,but all i can say is:
i have held onto lightness of the rom as much as possible
i dont run tweaks on my Roms
style of the ROM is totally new and never been out and its suitable for all microsoft windows users.
after being a programmer of .NET application for near 6 years ever since i was only 14,and before that i was joint the basic game development group,i can say i got some experiences in XNA game development framework and Compact .NET framework,so in everyrom i provide some applications including the updates (which are written by me,applications and updates both togather),for example now im working on a vista style calculator, Folder-explorer and applications like that,and i believe such things are impossible in some way for windows phone 7 due to its limitations.
so generally my questions is that : any of you are interested to see this rom?in next 48 hours i might be complete with designing process and then if you guys confirmed and liked it,i could start programming some non-WM style applications,applications with totally new visuals and ideas,
thanx
with respect to all ROM cookers on this forum
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Definitely we all would love to see your work and be a part of it, so feel free to share your work and we all appreciate you for that.
i would love to see your work!
sounds very interesting!
3 Days ...
This ROM will take about 72 hours,
Currently, Im working on upgrading the base for using the latest packages, and Arman is Focusing on development of additional frameworks which will be included inside the rom
The good news is that the framework will be shared with developers who are interested in using it in their apps)
When the build is ready, we will close this thread & start a new one. until that time, all your Ideas and comments are welcome.
icsulescu said:
Let us give it a try chief.
Any new idea is welcomed here.
All the best,
Me
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+ 1, your welcome . so i can say for my experience, there are alot fo peopple that would like to see a complete and original stock rom just with manila upgrade or a complete original stock rom without sense (NO SENSE), There are already so many apps ,modification, tweaks cabs and more to customize a stock rom, PERSONALLY I LIKE 6.5 ROMS MOST
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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+ 1, your welcome . so i can say for my experience, there are alot fo peopple that would like to see a complete and original stock rom just with manila upgrade or a complete original stock rom without sense (NO SENSE), There are already so many apps ,modification, tweaks cabs and more to customize a stock rom, PERSONALLY I LIKE 6.5 ROMS MOST
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We will work on both 6.5 and 6.5.5 roms. I too prefer the 6.5 roms as they are lighter and more professional. but we will work on both editions, offering different versions (including lite, -with & without sense).
I appreciate your suggestion sir, thanks for sharing your experience
alfamini said:
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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I will inform arman about this, so he can work on this issue
We would like a beta-tester team who can help us to make a stable ROM. if anyone is interested, please let us know.
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imtiyazee said:
Definitely we all would love to see your work and be a part of it, so fell free to share your work and we all appreciate you for that.
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Thanks for your support
alfamini said:
Nice to see that some new chiefs are working on HD2 here!
I will follow your future roms and try them!
If you both have also aknowledge of the base technics of the rom, DLL's and so on, there is a group of people liking very much to use a good incall-recorder!
For now ( I think depending of audio-routing and decoding-GSM ) with every working software just your own voice is recorded; the voice of the one that you are calling with is just recorded by the microphone that picks of the soft sound of the speaker of the phone.
If you guys got the skills to look into this ( othersnapdragon devices as the acer can do 2way-recording!) and solve it you are gonna get lots of fans!
Good luck cooking and developing!
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Thanks for your response,just as an update ;
im now designing mostly .NET framework side of the ROM,for those of you who dont know what .NET framework is ,in very very simple means,its a set of components provided as default ,components can be like : listbox,buttons,textbox and so on ... or even DLLs(class libraries),
i got time this evening to settle all the proper tools for development ,we are still experiening,note that the first series of rom are classified ,just like Windows family classification .
we will be having:
- Business edition : light,fast,browser integrated,office tools and all tools related to the same field of this kind
- Basic : for those of you who wants it real simple,no additional set of tools or frameworks,and basically want the highest level of battery life.
- ultimate: last but not least,including all extras we have developed,from small utilities to huge ones,and both useful and developed based upon your ideas ,this edition will be including all the packages,this is for those who want it real featured!
note that the design is quite stable,we are not aiming to provide differently designed homepages,but instead one universal start page , and the difference is in their features,the difference will be really obvious.
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How will be the future of this ROM?
basically you just download a single file extract it,and run it,setup runs,firstly asks you for the edition of your choice and basically prepares the flash-program for you to directly flash the phone and get the rom to work
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only that our first rom is comming in a very simple shape,just a demonstration and when we are done with styles ,we will head straightly to functionality
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all i can say is that i am trying my best to keep your battery lifes at the maximum level by not running extra processes,but still implementing alot of features .
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AND we are not copying anyone's work in this forum and XDA or any other developer's work,we started a clean copy
Just :
rouzb3h said:
We would like a beta-tester team who can help us to make a stable ROM. if anyone is interested, please let us know.
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just as a note : beta-testers do not risk their phones,we do not push applications incomplete into the platform,beta-testers are those who could leave us direct comments and ideas about the current style of the applications,the ROM in each beta ,is totally Stable and this is promised by me
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I wonder how many people will agree with me. I have spent the last several months playing around with different ROMs -- both 6.1 and now 6.5. I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM (I admit that I have 20-odd programs and lots of tweaking to do which I cannot automise) and have decided that this is really a waste of time. I am neglecting ACTUALLY WORKING on my phone (I have several projects going; one is compiling a dictionary). My family has also suffered from lack of attention. I find that when I wake up, the first thing on my mind is: Is there a new ROM for me to download today?
So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5. I think this is the way forward for me. Of course, I just might give in to temptation as the ROMs get better -- who knows? And I will always be grateful to the cooks.
I wonder how many people would agree with what I have just written; would love to read your comments... Thanks
I fully agree with you. I haven't used a single cooked ROM yet, still I have a lot to do with finding the right software for my phone, installing it, uninstalling it again, adjusting the settings, etc. It consumes a LOOOT of time and it definitely has a great impact on my life at this time. Hope that I will have everything I need soon
I would agree if the new roms brought nothing to the table but after using itje's 4.5 rom i can't say i agree. That was just a spectacular development.
I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
doministry said:
I think the ROM developement here is amazing and the proof of people creativity on .xda. I admire it.
At the same time I don't use it.
No time, no need.
Don't want any risk either.
Generic UK is good. I wait for R3.
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I couldn't have said it better.
Klaus1960 said:
For example I have the 'Growing' panel, and lots of other things like the new calculator from 6.5.
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Where did you get a calculator from 6.5? I'm looking for a nice free calculator and that sounds nice
Beside, I agree with you, I think it will coast a lot of time, I didn't install a custom ROM and I'll wait for the official R3AA Rom, I think the custom ROMs are great, and I'm a lot browsing through the threads, but I do need a lot of time...
I agree with you.
I have tried most of the english ROMs for X1. And i tell you the best ROM is the official generic ones(generic UK in my case)
Almost all the cuztom roms out now have problems, little bugs here and there. I like Jacks ROMs best, because he always tries to perfect his ROM. Even the little enhancment tweaks which are posted here, they are not worth it.
Just stick with the official stuff and use the product that are made good developers (like HTC and SPB)
I for one am pretty happy with the nX1i ROM. Its lite and works like a charm.
But yea...its pretty darn annoying to have to install everything back into the device.
Klaus1960 said:
I have found that it takes me at least 5 hours to put everything "back in" after uploading a ROM.
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5 hours? Did you use UC to automate the install process? I had UC for almost everything (e.g. software install, software registration w/ registry or file copying, shortcut moving, customization ....etc) and it take about 20 mins and require no attention. It may take some time beforehand for UC, but worth it since the one time process will work for any UC custom rom w/ any device (w/ minor change) in the long run.
Klaus1960 said:
So I have stopped this madness. I have gone back to the latest generic English ROM and have started to add various CABs to suit my needs for new stuff
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Isn't that you are doing the same thing except it's just on a stock rom (and no UC to automate yr process)?
I am not either a flashing fun.
I ve had 2 WM phones b4 (MIO & ETEN) with very buggy official ROMs. And a good custom ROM could give tones of added value at these old times.
But with X1 things are different. The latest version of the official ROM is quite good. Not any serious issues.
A good reason to flash a custom rom could be if u like Manila (which I don't)
ATM, I am using nX1i which is actually same as the official, except some junks removed and some newer version apps and I am very happy with it.
My understanding is that a cooked rom is a rom that has lots of bit's taken out and then cabs etc put back to make the HD2 run with better performance etc.
But there are so many roms on here, that it has become confusing as to which rom to put on my device. Also what happens when a new legit rom from HTC comes out - doesnt that mean that all the cooking starts again and we end up with thousands of roms?
I would have thought that the additional software installations after installing a new ROM to get the phone in a decent state would put most people off lol.
This is not a dig btw - i have installed a cooked rom, but i think the forum needs to be maybe reshaped a little more i.e. another category with each rom version.
Agree. Would like to see some kind of categories, maybe one for "Featured ROMs", they are cool, gives a hint of what will come, but they might be unstable. One category for ROMs really close to stock, but with minor changes...
i totall agree.. i am a new member as you can see on my number of posts.. i would really like to get to know which rom update is for what and which works best with htc hd2.
need help.
Just do some more research and find what you like.. and use it very often.
Custom Roms are for everybody and each chef has his own kitchen.. and receipe. Someone goes for speed the other for stability.. and some other chef again for a better layout.
I agree sometimes it is difiicullt to see what features are added and to compare which rom suites your needs best, but you could filter it all for you self. Select all Roms that have your interest and filter down to 2 or 3 Roms... then flash those 2 or 3 roms and try them for a few days. You will able to tell which one is best for you
It's up to you which one you choose.. so for lazy people who do not want to search.. stick to the shipped Roms
Bouloama said:
Just do some more research and find what you like.. and use it very often.
Custom Roms are for everybody and each chef has his own kitchen.. and receipe. Someone goes for speed the other for stability.. and some other chef again for a better layout.
I agree sometimes it is difiicullt to see what features are added and to compare which rom suites your needs best, but you could filter it all for you self. Select all Roms that have your interest and filter down to 2 or 3 Roms... then flash those 2 or 3 roms and try them for a few days. You will able to tell which one is best for you
It's up to you which one you choose.. so for lazy people who do not want to search.. stick to the shipped Roms
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+1 for this one.
It's ur own thing!
Well, All these roms are the personal preference of the maker with some feedback and input from the users. The only way is to decide is read the descriptions and perhaps see what apps are included and mainly, which version of windows mobile (all 6.5 but some the newer 6.5.3(?) version with the taskbar at the bottom and some fingerfriendly stuff), which version of manilla (2.5.1922 is the newest with a document tab but some bugs), etc.
The rest is just a matter of personal preference and trying.
It has always been like this and it works wonderfully... newbs that come here and say this kind of stuff should first try to understand how this forum works and WHY there are so many roms..
Like i said - i agree on the principle of it - but why not create sub forums with rom versions etc so the layout is easier. Being called a newbie because i havn't posted many threads is rather insulting
I really love the way it is now. It gives you freedom to choose, and make your device more custom. I would however like to see alot of cooks go together and create "the perfect rom".. Some cooks go for stabillty, others for speed, someone for visuals. Combine all those chefs recepies and you would have one fantastic rom i believe
I agree with Da9L!
If you spend more time with xda-devs you will see a structure. If i need a WM 6.5.3 ROM i search only for the Sys.Build (28xxx). Very easy.
1. I like having the choice between many different ROMs..you simply have to see what fits your needs the best.
2. Most people stick to their favorite cook because they have similar "taste" and usually you stick with it.
we have many 5-star cooks here and its hard to single out ONE great ROM. There is no universal solution so take a close look at the ROM description and see whats added and removed, look at the bugs and changelogs, the builds and decide if it might be your taste.
i love changing roms in search of features speed and new layouts.. but i always forget which rom was on which version when i last tried it . and now especially with new and different versions of manila and htcsense it is getting a bit of confusing...
I wish if there is a single chart of all roms where they keep atleast some basic information...
like
Name of ROM -- LAST UPDATED-- OS VERSION-- MANILA Version -- Changelog etc
something like this (except its for ANDROID ROMS)
http://db.androidspin.com/android_build_information.asp
tell me what you guys think of this....
Variety
That's like walking into a restaurant and saying, 'why all the different meals?' Or a bar and, why all the different girls? Or why all the different cars? It's the whole point of this site. Viva la difference!
Xaddict said:
That's like walking into a restaurant and saying, 'why all the different meals?' Or a bar and, why all the different girls? Or why all the different cars? It's the whole point of this site. Viva la difference!
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True...
But with a menu, you have categories. "Main meals" (full featured rom?) "starters" (clean rom without manila or any addons?)
You just have to have a look at this forum
TheDynamo said:
My understanding is that a cooked rom is a rom that has lots of bit's taken out and then cabs etc put back to make the HD2 run with better performance etc.
But there are so many roms on here, that it has become confusing as to which rom to put on my device. Also what happens when a new legit rom from HTC comes out - doesnt that mean that all the cooking starts again and we end up with thousands of roms?
I would have thought that the additional software installations after installing a new ROM to get the phone in a decent state would put most people off lol.
This is not a dig btw - i have installed a cooked rom, but i think the forum needs to be maybe reshaped a little more i.e. another category with each rom version.
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You just had to read and learn
the thread title is very misleading based on what the TS has to say
in any case, the current layout is fine. i do not think it is very "efficient" to keep going down sub-menus
It would be nice to have a XDA market were al ROMS and stuff can be rated, that would certainly sort things out
Personally I wish there were more ROMs! Like someone said, this is how its always been, this is how it is, and this is how it will always be.
It would be good if the chefs stuck to the official thread naming scheme.
I was gonna provide a link to it, but cant find it now
Rated by who
nwolsink said:
It would be nice to have a XDA market were al ROMS and stuff can be rated, that would certainly sort things out
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The only one that can rate the best rom for you is you
What might be the case
Many of the ROM's have no layout customizations and vary
often only a little in included applications, tweaks/driver patches.
If a new user installs a couple of ROM's , chances
are differences aren't all that big, and the question arises, what's the point ?
If one looks at the older devices, one can see an almost vulgair
choice of styled, tweaked and pimped beyond recognition ROM's.
I mean the ROM's where you open the default games folder and there's 10 games, 19 great themes to choose from, 6 clocks, and what's more.
The fact those ROM's aren't available (yet) could be strange to people relatively new to XDA.
Maybe it's something all different
Edit : forgot to mention Xanitechs Pandora ROM which has "styling" (works like a charm for me)
HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
Follow me on twitter to stay updated. WMPerson
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Complete/Received Thanks for the donation
ROM In Progress, First ROM created Now fixing bugs.... And improving it
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: I think within 2 weeks, but that's just me!
about t01a
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?
where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look
bird_9527 said:
wen,do you think the japanese version developing ?
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T01A Rom may be have a little bit difference from TG01 Rom ,so we need cedesmith release a tgtool version for japanese rom or need cedesmith release source code of tgtool and some one can modify it ,after that we can use it for japanese rom.
The japanese rom file has a tsd (toshiba docomo) extension not tsw(toshiba worldwide) extension. http://update.toshibamobile.com/upda..._SP50_wm65.exe
a_petrov303 said:
where is the list of bugs to be addressed please? I wold like to have at look
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There are you have BUUGGS post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631509
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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Yes please !
But i'm sure some optimizations could be done!
Moreover, it would be so great to have sense ui and all htc's programs working on our phone!
We just have to wait now!
as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.
What do we expect from a cooked ROM?
jeams said:
as many bugs had been fixed by toshiba, the main purpuse of an cooked rom is an newer build of windows mobile. wm6.5.3 or WM6.5.5.
Finding a way to use htc g-sensor softs on the tg01 would be great too.
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I start:
I agree with the htc g-sensor emulation plus:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
- Null (or leave as an option) the screen off when calling
- Add essential camera features as White balance
What do you think?
the best thing would be if there are two kind of rom....
one fully equiped and one clean rom....
the fully equiped rom should have sense and other htc apps and some little tweaks like 1ghz or hd2 driver patch...also we have to focus the ram usage and the free memory....i think that are the major things..
the clear version have to be very very fast and with a lot of free ram!!!
also i think we could remove all unusefull toshiba stuff like wifi-app or the stripes menu....no one uses these apps!!!
20% lbattery imitation needs totally scapped i agree there
adzman808 said:
to be fair toshiba have resolved some of our bugs with the new release....
if someone could make a debranded & unlocked std ROM in english I think 80% of people would be happy......
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there are still problems in connection to pre-2005 BMW Bluetooth ULF - car kit
Pere said:
- Null (or leave as a option) the silly limitations on USB and Wifi, when battery is under 20%
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+bluetooth cannot be started if the battery is under 20%
Wen(WM) said:
HI Guys,
I am sure you guys have been wondering where I went to with your money .
Well sorry, I do not visit the TG01 forum on a daily bases but if I remember it, I do.
Do not worry, I never left you guys, I made a promise to help, and I am.
Well here is what we have so far:
ROM Making Tool Complete Thanks Cedesmith
Donations Complete
Test Device Paid & Complete
ROM In Progress, Awaiting Device
ROM
Required Done:
Bugs
Speed unlock
Better look
Leo ROM
ETA: Uknown
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Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
InsertNameHere said:
Test device, Paid and complete, so um, you have a device, why no rom yet? Unless you don't have a device, in which case, you have been paid and do not have a device, no?
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be patient
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
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+1000 well said, totally agree!
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it would be amazing if we could have a clean, brand free ROM from which to build our personal apps & settings.
i can see the benefits of many different things people are asking, but we all want so much & we all want different things
so if at all possible it would surely be best all round if the first ROM to be produced was pretty much the same as the latest toshiba release, but with zero branding & pre-installed apps & as much RAM & capacity left free as possible
please don't think i want to dampen the enthusiasm of those of you skilled & knowledgable enough to make these ROMs a reality, nor am i trying to be scornful to those of you who have made specific requests for widgets, features & applications
the ROM idea pretty much started out of the call quality issue, that was kinda our hook 'which cook was gordon ramsey (man) enough to fix the flawed genius of the TG'
well sorry but that cook works for Toshiba - the sound is fixed
so now rather than a problem we want fixed, we want a blank canvass of a ROM to make our own
basic noob's like me want a stripped out device with no clutter
you gamers want rotation & motion senors
you htc-afficcionados want your fav htc features
but we can't all have everything unless we all get the same template of a ROM to begin our own journeys into customization
also... well... i guess the cooks are used to it.... but it can't be a big motivation to hurry up having dozens of people all asking for different things...
cheers
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Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
kevinpwhite said:
Adam, Cooks,
Perfectly said. Absolutely in agreement.
I also think would fit well with the fundamental tenet of software development - baby steps - test every step and validate with the client before moving on. Is only a modern variation of the carpenters' dit about 'measure twice and cut once' from the dawn of time, but all the more true for that.
A start point 'vanilla' stripped down ROM, preferably with some step by step instructins for the uninitiated among us to learn and build from would be the perfect start point.
Really hope that the clear experts here can help with that ?
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I agree as well. Only add that we need as a start point a Clean ROM but not only without the typical brand trash, also the stupid Toshiba limitations (20% battery and so on).
Come on!
It seems that the very first windows 7 rom is out ...it has appears here on xda and DA_g is already working on it..it seems that the first device to get the updates it will obviusly be the HD2...
Anyway I don't know what think, I'm not very impressed from windows phone 7, expecialy I don't want to lost manila..
here is the thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681659
cool news!!
maybe our s200 chiefs get it running on our devices ;-)
We should make some kind of fund to interest some people to port it to acer since there aren't that much developers for the neotouch?
Or is Arto or brainmaster interested?
it's not so easy ...at the moment just do the dumpo is preatty difficoult...don't expect anythin in the mid-term...
I am interested in cooking WM7 for NeoTouch, so i will stay in touch and follow the development of ROM.
Now i am on vacation and be back in 2 Weeks.
I will stay tuned too on this but I dont expect to much the possibility of cooking that...
as for me until microsoft don't bring multitasking and third party app support I'm not very interested to that...if I wanna an embedded device I would have bought a nokia or something else...
by the way I have seen the multitasking of the palm pixi...and I have to say that it's very nice ! would be awsome to bring that interface on windows mobile.
You can seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI5tLZH4nEY .arto what do you think ?
Getting wp7 on the acer s200 or any other qsd8xxxx platform device wont be as straight foward as it was getting 6.5 to our current devices, da-g has said it the devices will brick, jtag will be needed, and lots of other things will go wrong, wp7 wont be as easy as porting 6.5 to an arm7 device, this will require a lot of skill and luck and most of all time, i can bet my neck that we wont see a half working rom for atleast a year, hell maybe more, lets just be patient and hope that da_g can find a way to flash this new generation of rom's on to the current qsd8xxx platform devices.
I see, anyway as for me, until mocrosoft won't bring multitasking support and third party apps I'm not very interested in it ...
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by the way I have seen the multitasking of the palm pixi...and I have to say that it's very nice ! would be awsome to bring that interface on windows mobile.
You can seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI5tLZH4nEY .arto what do you think ?
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:O very very nice, this is what i call multitasking .i really want to have this on my acer neotouch
Hoping that microsoft will release WP7 soon......
Another 'let's donate to con-men' thread... Forget it, if you need an iPhone go buy it and be happy... I don't get why those people've bought a 'classic' WM smartphone if they want a thing similar to iPhone/ Android (which is in fact, a substitute/clone of an iPhone)
Hi everyone please before anyone throw curses at me, it is only a request to make things more organize at least for noobs like me
i have entered the world of andorid not so much as a month ago with galaxy S2 i was amazed with the possibilities of this software and how much customization can go with it but all this come with cost which is mess, lost and confusion
i mean there is like 10 or more roms for S2 alone as we can see and it just been a month only what will happen after plus we are always asking which is the best rom what is the best theme etc
that is why i suggest the following:
one custom rom which belong to XDA to name as please or XDA rom since XDA the biggest android forum and all developers can work on it to tweak it as they please and submit to the ppl in charge of it and update frequently (example villin rom with its tweaks app which need some work in organizing, i thank him for his work)
in this rom there will be apps like that but will be all in the offical app for tweaks( like cydia in the iphone OS) inside it everything from themes to addons
i know i might not clear but what am saying lets try to have One rom and in it all the tweaks possible since in the end of what am seeing all ROMs have minor difference(someone can shot me down if am wrong and i say sorry)
waiting for your thoughs follow XDA members
A few quick thoughts here. You can never please everyone because people want different things out of a rom and the result can be that as things go forward you end up pleasing no one by trying to be all things to all people. Also right now the roms are fairly similar because the phone is so new but that will change going down the road as things settle in and they will become more divergent. While it seems chaotic now this is not a bad thing in that you likely will find a chef who does work that you will prefer. Once CM comes to fruition you will see in some respects what you are talking about as many people will theme directly for it and so also with mods.
There are so many more devices, roms and people. Some roms make the whole operating system look completely different. (miui)
You want everything easily in one place. I actually don't. If you want one rom, pick one and stay with it. Simple right?
I like to compare different roms, certain ones have better features but a long with that it brings worse battery life. So I like weighing the differences.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII with XDA Premium
Stick to the stock ROM for now, it's pretty balanced, till a few more months and Dev's get the hang of this new Phone.
Problem with the original only one rom . Who do you choose for the one rom do you ban the other devs .Ban Chainfire ban others like him who have developed individual bits that come together to make a whole .
No Android is independent custom at will rather than the dictate of one person (Hi Steve ).
Noobs need to accept that its a learning curve they have to learn how to read first follow instructions second browse the posts third and search fourth .
Simply put one rom defeats the whole point of XDA and Open Source .
jje
well thanks guys about the reply but i guess the idea far from coming to android or maybe because i am new, i cannot see the picture you guys are seeing since i came from iphone which used to have one version(jailbreak firmware) with cydia(the home of all great thing for iphone) and thought it is possible in android but it seems not so i just have to do what most have said stick to one rom and be updated with it
in the end i just wanted to share my thoughts and it has been nice reading your thoughts on the matter
stay alive
MoeBD said:
well thanks guys about the reply but i guess the idea far from coming to android or maybe because i am new, i cannot see the picture you guys are seeing since i came from iphone which used to have one version(jailbreak firmware) with cydia(the home of all great thing for iphone) and thought it is possible in android but it seems not so i just have to do what most have said stick to one rom and be updated with it
in the end i just wanted to share my thoughts and it has been nice reading your thoughts on the matter
stay alive
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But thats the whole difference ONE = IPhone
What you want = Android .
What if that one rom is far behind rather than advanced = no choice .
If i had to go down the IPhone one rom walled garden do as you are told path i would not even contemplate a Smartphone .I want choice simple as that .
One rom might as well stick with the basic Google rom .
jje
Ok, in general these are the roms out here or yet to come:
- Android with Touchwhizz
- Stock android
- MIUI
- Cyanogenmod
- Stock android with Cyanogenmod tweaks etc
- Possibly a Sense rom.
These are 6 different android variants already. How can you put them in one rom? That is not possible. I like the stock android, you like touchwhizz etc.
The main advantage is that you can switch roms easily and flash the rom that suits you.
I agree that in the beginning you can't see the whole picture, but you will in time. Like JJEgan says it's a learning curve, although a lot of new people don't seem to realize that.