I have searched the forum for several hours, but I could not find a solution to the issue I am having. When I do a hard reset, hit send to begin the format, I get an error saying FORMAT Failed, so it boots back up as if it was just a soft reset. I really need a hard reset, but I am not sure how to make this happen. I have reloaded the ROM several times, but it still does not take and comes up just like a soft reset. I went into bootloader and flashed it that way, but still no go. If anyone could help me find a way to rectify this issue, I would GREATLY appreciate it.
Here are the steps I take
Hold the comm mgr button and the record button at the same time, while hitting reset button, then I get the screen that says
Press Send to restore
factory default,
Other keys to quit
I then hit the Send button, then it says
FORMAT FAT partition
then really fats, it flashes "Format is failed"
I have no idea what to do next, as I can not get my factory default settings back.
Please help. I would appreciate it GREATLY.
try using a different ROM or a more recent rom. if you can sucessfully upgrade the ROM then it should be able to hard reset.
I have downgraded and updated to different roms, but I still have the same problem. Appreciate the advice. thanks
Interesting post.
I got my mini s on Thursday and after initionaly starting the device, i done a soft reset before the o2 crap was installed (to avoid the o2 extended rom loading), but was then curious as to how my xda mini s would perform with the o2 crap installed, but i cannot hard reset my device. I have followed all the hard reset instructions but it doesnt even give me the option of pressing the send button, all that happens is a soft reset.
It would be handy to know how to overcome this problem for future reference, in case i need to hard reset.
BTW i am happy with device without the o2 crap installed.
did you try going into settings and clearing storage?
i never heard of hard resetting not working before myself
Good point, so I just cleared storage, and BAM, it came up as a hard reset, so I am factory installed. Thanks for the idea, I can not believe I did not think of that. Appreciate your help. Just weird how the hard reset would not do it, thats pretty strange.
glad it worked
if anything, i thought the settings method would have less likely worked compared to the hardware method
ArgyleMoss said:
Interesting post.
I got my mini s on Thursday and after initionaly starting the device, i done a soft reset before the o2 crap was installed (to avoid the o2 extended rom loading), but was then curious as to how my xda mini s would perform with the o2 crap installed, but i cannot hard reset my device. I have followed all the hard reset instructions but it doesnt even give me the option of pressing the send button, all that happens is a soft reset.
It would be handy to know how to overcome this problem for future reference, in case i need to hard reset.
BTW i am happy with device without the o2 crap installed.
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Same here - I got mine last week, and the damned shop had obviously demo'd it to someone before they gave it to me (gave being the operative word as I got it on a free upgrade).
Was a bit narked to find loads of contacts in (obviously a SIM copy) and tried to hard-reset using the 2 buttons & reset and it only ever worked once after much pfaffing - is there a knack in the presses/time etc?
if i do a hard reset will i have to re update my rom to get telenav?
I believe a hard reset only resets the os, not the rom version. I think the rom update is like flashing the chips, while a hard reset just reverts to the original setup (whatever rom you're running).
Hi All,
I hopefully should be getting my X1 tomorrow! (if O2 get it back in stock anyway!)
Im new to Windows Mobile but not new to Windows in general! so I have been reading on here for quite a few weeks regarding customising my X1. I have a very silly question regarding hard resetting.
Is the original factory image of the phone stored on a seperate hidden partition of the disk that we cant see? Does hard reseting completely reset back to factory settings removing all mods etc ? Is there a way by modding the phone we can ruin this "factory" image?
Im just working out that if I install a mod I dont want... can I Always get it back with a Hard Reset?
Thanks in advance,
Craig
Yes, you go back to a fresh out of teh box handset. Everything is wiped.
You don't need to do it often if you don't play with experimental software ported from oher devices etc...
I have used WM for 4 years now and have only once done a hard reset.
my HD is stuck on the WM. I twas installing the Color Topbar with HTC logo cab and did the reset after install and now stuck. Any suggestions?
Hopefully hard reset fixes it
i had the same problem.
A rom install fixed it,but i lost alot
Shouldn't try untested things...
i have a similar problem phone stops at smart mobility screen and then reset again and again,hard reset didn't work 4me..
alexis_p3300 said:
hard reset didn't work 4me..
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Then you could have some serious trouble.
Did you really hard reset your device? Often people are confused about Hard-Reset and Soft-Reset, and what actually the difference is. Which keys did you press?
If a hard reset does not help, there is something wrong on a lower level, maybe the bootloader or spl. You could try to get HardSPL on your device (and then flash another rom), or you should make use of your warranty.
i know i have serious trouble.make a hard reset restore manu/ture settings but still the same i will use warranty,phone is 5 days old..
Oh no same problem here but hard reset has resolved the issue pheww. Shouldn't use untested software.
Which iconbar are you having problems with?
Usually it gets stuck on the Windows Mobile screen if one of the modified files hasn't been re-signed after being modified. I've accidently done this myself a while ago when modifying one for myself and testing it and needed a hard reset. That's why I install any I alter on mine first to test it and also take a screenshot of it installed and working.
Also, if you're installing coloured icon bars you usually have to have sdkcert.cab installed.
simple really, everyone says to hard reset when you install a new rom, but at what point do you do it??
i normally wait till it pops up to tap the screen to set the phone up and then take the battery out, reinsert it and do it then.
is that the right time, or can you do it anytime?
sning said:
simple really, everyone says to hard reset when you install a new rom, but at what point do you do it??
i normally wait till it pops up to tap the screen to set the phone up and then take the battery out, reinsert it and do it then.
is that the right time, or can you do it anytime?
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Personally I do it straight away, i.e. when phone is in splash screen. Just take out battery and hard reset. Obviously only real difference between this and yours is the time waiting for device to initialize to tap screen
so i'm correct in saying that it dosetn really matter when you do it, so long as you do.
in the same vien, why are some cooks now suggest 2 hard resets?
I've noticed in the screen where it says it is setting up you blackstone and there is a progress bar, that it seems like the first reset is quicker and the second and longer. I think that just insures stuff gets installed correct. There may be remnants of other ROMs still there that could cause issues.
I do mine after it has got to the Windows splash screen. I then do a factory reset.
Personally I flash straight from the SD card, so I get a white screen says "Update Done" when flash process is complete.
(in my case it doesn't automatically takes me to splash screen).
Then I take the battery out and perform first hard-reset. Right after I set up everything and i get the manila screen,
I perform a second hard-reset.
Normally I do it straight after it finish flash and the first screen when it start up..
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... why are some cooks now suggest 2 hard resets?
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In most cases, some members just want to make sure. I always do the one hard reset with no issues. Mind you, I also use the mtty tool as well before flashing but that's just me....
I actually do the hard reset before flashing... since it is just to remove any traces of the old sys from RAM, it shouldn't really matter if one does it before or after flashing.
Plus: I don't have to watch the flash process and can just leave the phone unattended.
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I actually do the hard reset before flashing... since it is just to remove any traces of the old sys from RAM, it shouldn't really matter if one does it before or after flashing.
Plus: I don't have to watch the flash process and can just leave the phone unattended.
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Actually Hard Resetting After a flash is highly recommended, not before. Although it won't hurt to hard reset before, however it will not help avoiding bugs unless you hard reset after your flash.
Care to explain why? The non-ROM parts are cleared either way, and I have yet to encounter any bugs that are fixable by hard-resetting again...
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Care to explain why? The non-ROM parts are cleared either way, and I have yet to encounter any bugs that are fixable by hard-resetting again...
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i cant explain it, but a HR has cured some bugs for me. (i've had bluetooth fail to work on cooked roms; HR fixed it).
for the 20seconds it takes, why not! saves you having to spend 30mins later on reconfiguring/reinstalling
There seems to be a belief by many uneducated users in these forums that multiple hard resets somehow make a difference, or that there may be bugs/issues with phones that haven't had a hard reset done to them after flashing.
Somehow, people have it in their mind that the reset that the phone does after the flash has been done >doesnt< totally clear out the RAM/ROM/memory of the device, and that traces remain of the previous ROM, or perhaps bits in memory are not set correctly.
This doesn't happen. Phone memory isn't made of putty or clay. Flashing a stock phone with a cooked ROM doesn't leave some bits of memory set with their old values. Flashing a phone with a ROM that's slightly smaller than the previous one doesn't leave those extra bits unset. Hard resetting a phone multiple times doesn't miraculously reset "stuck" bits that didn't quite get flipped earlier.
Sorry people, but memory doesn't work this way. ROM and RAM in your phones doesn't somehow act differently than ROM/RAM in any other computer. These beliefs are almost always generated by people that aren't quite clear on what actions they are following when flashing their phone. They may be installing additional code after flashing, making configuration changes, or have an auto-install feature active. Or their phone performs different actions based on their location, native language, or carrier. Or the phone's radio ROM interacts differently with the new ROM.
All of these can cause a newly-flashed phone to act unpredictably. NOT because they didn't hard reset their phone twice. NOT because they didn't flash their phone back to a base ROM before updating to a cooked ROM.
When a phone is flashed, ALL memory (ROM + RAM) is re-initialised, regardless of the new ROM's size. There are NO traces of previous ROMs remaining in memory. Safeguards in the flashing process ensures that the code being flashed does not have errors in it. The flashing process also checks for errors in the phone's memory chips to ensure that no hardware errors exist.
These are fundamental activities that happen during all flashes on all phones. There simply isn't any way for a flash to "not quite work". It either completes successfully and reboots, or it doesn't complete successfully and you brick it or are forced to try again.
Resetting a newly flashed phone multiple times is pointless and is simply an act of the uneducated masses rubbing their lucky rabbit's foot or praying to their deity. Do it if you like, but please don't post messages instructing others to do so because it's a necessary step. It's not.
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There seems to be a belief by many uneducated users in these forums that multiple hard resets somehow make a difference, or that there may be bugs/issues with phones that haven't had a hard reset done to them after flashing.
Somehow, people have it in their mind that the reset that the phone does after the flash has been done >doesnt< totally clear out the RAM/ROM/memory of the device, and that traces remain of the previous ROM, or perhaps bits in memory are not set correctly.
This doesn't happen. Phone memory isn't made of putty or clay. Flashing a stock phone with a cooked ROM doesn't leave some bits of memory set with their old values. Flashing a phone with a ROM that's slightly smaller than the previous one doesn't leave those extra bits unset. Hard resetting a phone multiple times doesn't miraculously reset "stuck" bits that didn't quite get flipped earlier.
Sorry people, but memory doesn't work this way. ROM and RAM in your phones doesn't somehow act differently than ROM/RAM in any other computer. These beliefs are almost always generated by people that aren't quite clear on what actions they are following when flashing their phone. They may be installing additional code after flashing, making configuration changes, or have an auto-install feature active. Or their phone performs different actions based on their location, native language, or carrier. Or the phone's radio ROM interacts differently with the new ROM.
All of these can cause a newly-flashed phone to act unpredictably. NOT because they didn't hard reset their phone twice. NOT because they didn't flash their phone back to a base ROM before updating to a cooked ROM.
When a phone is flashed, ALL memory (ROM + RAM) is re-initialised, regardless of the new ROM's size. There are NO traces of previous ROMs remaining in memory. Safeguards in the flashing process ensures that the code being flashed does not have errors in it. The flashing process also checks for errors in the phone's memory chips to ensure that no hardware errors exist.
These are fundamental activities that happen during all flashes on all phones. There simply isn't any way for a flash to "not quite work". It either completes successfully and reboots, or it doesn't complete successfully and you brick it or are forced to try again.
Resetting a newly flashed phone multiple times is pointless and is simply an act of the uneducated masses rubbing their lucky rabbit's foot or praying to their deity. Do it if you like, but please don't post messages instructing others to do so because it's a necessary step. It's not.
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nice,thanks
@douginoz - thats exactly what i beleive too (or used to!)
however as i mentioned before, i had issues with a cooked rom (wifi or bluetooth wouldnt work correctly)
a HR cured it.
now this could of been a bad initialization of the rom from the get-go, however based on the fact that a flash resets the phone completely, it didnt correctly work *immediately after the first flash*.
weather it's placebo affect, i dont know but i've also experiencing slightly slower performance on no HR rom, vs a HR after rom flash.
as always, a bad install could happen at any time. i'm merely going off my own personal experience between doing a HR and not doing one. no HR after rom flash has given me atleast 2 issues. HR after flash has NEVER given me an issue.