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Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Bluetooth between Tomtom - Magician - THB Handsfree

I've noticed, that there are several threads about the Bluetooth communication of the magician. Therefor this one will be one of them.
I'm using TomTom Navigator 5 with Bluetooth GPS on my device. Also i have a bluetooth Handsfree kit from THB mounted in my car. Now, allt that i want is to here the output of the tomtom via my handsfree kit. But it didn't work. All sound is coming of the built in speaker.
If I get al call, the handsfree is working fine. So this is not a problem..... :-(
Anyone got a similar constelation and got a solution for me. I've already contacted TomTom and THB, and both told me to contact the manufactor of the magician. So i think that is a Bluetooth stck problem. I'm still using the default Bluetoot stack of the magician. Will any other help me to find a solution?
Th ROM I'm using is a german 1.12......
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
I've noticed, that there are several threads about the Bluetooth communication of the magician. Therefor this one will be one of them.
I'm using TomTom Navigator 5 with Bluetooth GPS on my device. Also i have a bluetooth Handsfree kit from THB mounted in my car. Now, allt that i want is to here the output of the tomtom via my handsfree kit. But it didn't work. All sound is coming of the built in speaker.
If I get al call, the handsfree is working fine. So this is not a problem..... :-(
Anyone got a similar constelation and got a solution for me. I've already contacted TomTom and THB, and both told me to contact the manufactor of the magician. So i think that is a Bluetooth stck problem. I'm still using the default Bluetoot stack of the magician. Will any other help me to find a solution?
Th ROM I'm using is a german 1.12......
Stefan
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I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....

Joost39 said:
I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....
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For me that would be no problem, cause i have a fixed telephone in my car, that i can use for phone calls. ;-)
But the sound of the magician speaker is very low.
I´m loving loud music in my car, and then i won´t hear any instructions out of the Magician speaker.....
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
Joost39 said:
I´ve got the same solution (allmost) AS YOU - BUT THINK ABOUT IT....if the TT-voice came trough your bluetooth set, all the calls would be interupted every time you made a call, while driving with voicenavigation....so it has to be seperated in a loudspeaker and through your bluetooth solution headset etc....
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For me that would be no problem, cause i have a fixed telephone in my car, that i can use for phone calls. ;-)
But the sound of the magician speaker is very low.
I´m loving loud music in my car, and then i won´t hear any instructions out of the Magician speaker.....
Stefan
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Okay!
But then you have to go to an mobilephone technician who can fix it so that your PDA can connect to the carstereo with af muting device ----- you get the music and it mutes when the navigationvoice comes on.
I know that it can be done, but it cost bucks....or Euros!
Or buy another bluetooth driver that supports MP3 se www.handago.com
then you can get the navigation and musik in the headset!

TyTN and bluetooth carkit

Hi to all.
Have any of You experience with connecting TyTN to more sophisticated bt carkit. Mine connects perfectly to my simple motorola carkit but does not want to connect to Parrot 3100 at all.

Hi varden,
There are some issues with tytn an parrot CK connection. As it is discussed on this thread, Parrot is aware of the problem and say they are waiting for a tytn unit to test it and solve the problems.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
Regards.

Do You know of any other working carkit with an LCD and contacts importing?

My Audi BT carkit doesn't work with the TyTN,
It connects and stays connected for about 5 minutes, then it randomly disconnects and reconnects and sometimes just disables the BT on the TyTN :evil:

I have no troubles using my Lexus car kit for making calls, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to transfer contacts from the TyTN to the car address book

Just tried my Orange SPV M3100 with my Audi A4 BT carkit, and it all appears to work fine so far.
To the Lexus guy, most in built car kits I have come accross have the ability to read the contacts off the SIM card. As this is a standard format, car manufactureres don't have to worry about accessing contacts from Symbian, Windows Mobile, Nokia etc etc etc. With my Audi, the first time it connects via Bluetooth, it reads all the contacts from the SIM card. (Note: if you already have a Bluetooth connection created, you will have to delete it and then re-create it to initiate the SIM download bit).
This maybe different on your Lexus, but the mechanism should be explained in your manuals somewhere. If not, Lexus dealers are reknowed for being very helpful, why not try them!
Markee

CK 3000?
Does anyone have any experience with the TyTN and the simpler CK 3000 kit?

I use my TyTN with a sony ericsson bluetooth car-kit. It works perfect at the moment. I didn't use it much yet, but it works very well. the TyTN connects much faster then my previous Eten M600

Does anybody have the Tytn work with a Lexus Bluetooth carkit?
If yes - is the phonebook transferred to the carkit?
Thank you

TyTN with Parrot RNB
Hello together,
I'm using the MDA Vario II together with a Parrot RNB. Paring, connecting and phone-book synchronising is working quite well. But I have problems with phoning. While synchronising I can't make a call. When I try I don't hear anything (no ring tone and no speech) and my MDA disconnects after some seconds.
After synchronising the phone handling is quite good. I can reach and make calls either with the RNB or with my MDA and the sound quality of my phone partner is very good. The big problem is, that my speech is muted every two seconds for about one second. So my partner has big problems to understand me.
On the RNB I have the latest firmware, which is about one year old and on my MDA I have the ROM Version: 1.21.111.3 and the Radio Version: 1.05.02.00
Does anyone have some hints for me to solve the problems?
Greetings Pudl

Phonebook transfer to Lexus now works
Finally managed to send contacts over to my LS430 from my Hermes (Cingular 8525).
How you ask?
WM6!
It has an updated bluetooth stack that now interoperates properly.
Finally.

@Mandingo,
How did you achieve this, i just picked up my RX350 and i already have WM6 on my Hermes, but i can only send 1 contact at a time to the car, and it's becoming painful, i wish there was some way i could select all contacts and then send via bluetooth?

if you go to http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ you can download their cab file, then install it and you can push all the contacts over in 1 go.
Paul

I have a BMW with bluetooth phone kit (official BMW!) and i couldn't use it with me Symbian phone... Now i have a TyTN and all works great

I stopped using sync on my TyTN with my CK3300. Instead I exported all my contacts from Outlook with the Parrot App, and pushed them over bluetooth to the kit.
You need to select the SonyEricsson K800 NO SYNC when pairing the TyTN so it doesn't sync. The advantages with this is that you can use the dual keyword (name then home/work/mobile) instead of the default sync that just puts all numbers in one long list.

Parrot CK3000
I am using a TyTn with a simply Parrot 3000. It works well. If you have a problem with it, reset the Parrot.

Bt pairing to a nokia ck-7w

ive searched for ck-7w in the hermes section but finds nothing? surely others must use this handsfree kit?
Well my issues, my hermes wont find it when searching for bluetooth devises? Never had any issues with my wizzard?
ive tryed a few different wm6 roms, now on the black.
Is there a cab somewhere to fix this, as i cant, use this phone until i get it sorted with my car kit

Hi fil,
I can't speak to WM6 but my 7W works well (usually) with my 8525 WM5 ATT Upgrade Rom. I remapped the ptt button to activate the built-in voice dialing. Sometimes the system announces the name throught the 7w speaker, other time via the 8525 speaker. Who knows why?
The quality of the recognition software is fair. I am planning on re-recording some of the voice tags in the car via the 7w mic. I have a feeling this will result in greater accuracy. It has to do the the acoustics where the tags are recorded.
My BT settings in the 8525 are
Mode = Turn on BT and Make device visable
Devices = add new device, if it finds it, click on Nokia CK-7w & check off Hands Free, at the bottom of the screen hit Save
BTW, the 7w data cable 5 volt lead does not have enough balls to charge the 8525.
Let me know if you get WM6 working with the 7w.
Lyle

You've already tried to reset the CK-7W ?
Especially when your Nokia Carkit has an other mobile paired in his memory (an old one for example) it won't pair the Tytn.
Worked for me (reset CK-7W).
After that my carkit works fine with yhe Tytn but has proplems if I wan't to pair a second (Symbian) phone.

alylea, my tytn wont even find it, when searching, have ticked the make seeable to othe devices, the method you discribe works perfectly as said on my wizard
davw, reset the ck-7w how?
tho the ck-7w can do up to 7 phones in its memory i belive, had no issues with a wizard and 2 different nokia all paired on it allready?

davw said:
You've already tried to reset the CK-7W ?
Especially when your Nokia Carkit has an other mobile paired in his memory (an old one for example) it won't pair the Tytn.
Worked for me (reset CK-7W).
After that my carkit works fine with yhe Tytn but has proplems if I wan't to pair a second (Symbian) phone.
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again how'd you reset it? dont have the manual

still aint working, see unable to see the kit!???
anyone?

right its working now?, done nothing different?
was sitting in my car thismorning doing a bluetooth search for my new stereo headset i picked up from the PO on my way to work, it found it and the carkit , and paired with both!
well problem solved, but **** knows how ???

No idea what did the trick but here is the Nokia Europe site for the manual.
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222096
So iGuidance voice instructions do not come out of the CK-7W speaker not do the voice dialing confirmation names, although basic HF function works. I'm testing an inexpensive application that routes all audio from the 8525 to the BT output. I'll let you know if it works.

Please recommend me a headset (wired & bluetooth) for my Atom Exec

I bought a second hand good condition Atom Exec for a lot less than the new one and still got warranty intact. However, it didn't come with original headset (well I've heard that it sucks anyway). So I'm going to buy a headset.
Can anyone recommend me a headset for my Atom Exec? Both wired and bluetooth. Right now I'm considering buying an I-Tech Clip R35 because I can go wired or bluetooth and it's small.
Thanks.
PS. I also want to know that the Atom Exec jack is ordinary 2.5mm audio jack. Or the jack also includes one additional signal line for microphone.

earphones
my earphone jack has just failed. I'm sending for repair. Good luck with new/old o2, you'll need it if what I have read on the site is true. Mine has some issues but the jack problem renders it unable to accept calls without using the headset.
sorry can't help with a 3rd party headset recommendation but your right the o2 headset/earphones are crap.

BT earpiece
Hope my answer is not too late for you.
I just bought A2DP BT Earpiece for my O2 Atom Exec, and it works fine with the handset, this earpiece have built-in FM Radio too, I use it almost daily for my movie, Japanese/Korea drama and songs. The brand is :
Brand : I-Tech Clip Radio
URL : http://www.kjc-tech.com/
or : http://www.kjc-tech.com/products1.cfm?Product_Model=i.Tech Clip Radio
Price : S$129.00
I've tested 1 set first for myself (Atom Exec) and find no problem and get another set for my Dopod PDA phone.