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Use PocketPC as USB mass storage

I wonder if there's any software to operate PocketPC as USB Stick available (like for Palm Tungsten T5 - Drive Mode)? So basically I would like to use PocketPC drives just as a USB Stick (without Activesync of course)
Thanks,
Georg

this cannot be done in software.

let me rehash this topic
Can anyone here kindly explain me why it aint possible to use PPC as USB MassStorageDevice? I know you need USB Host Controller chip to handle that stuff in hardware. Why cant we emulate its function in software? In the end its only sending signals to the pc?
How does the device upgrade process work then? you also have to transfer data to ppc rom here.
I know that it wont be easy to give a simple explanation, could anyone try it anyway?
thank you for your help!
regards,
Quappo

i think it would be possible to do in software
if it cant then it's because that it's hardcoded in the pda that when it interduce itself to the pc as a plug'n'play device it does so as a pda
if that cant be changed then you cant do it

I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/#compatibility
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
You mast pay for the first one :?
but the second (if you like) it's free !
Have a look !!

Carlo said:
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: ...
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
... the second (if you like) it's free !
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You were misleaded. The named tool can be used on PDAs having USB host functionality to connect other hard drives. It won't let your PDA be recognized as a USB stick.

Yes - in general case you can do it.
It is possible to write software which allow to represent PPC with USB end-point hardware as USB Mass Storage device.
Question is - how?
It seems device will need to supply correct descriptors at USB enumeration process and device will have to correctly process appropriate comands from host device (PC or something else)
again - how?
It seems someone will need to write low level software to manage USB endpoint hardware in PPC. it may look like kernel mode driver.
What to need? - doc for USB endpoint device and ability to write driver to manage this hardware.
It isn't difficult - but every PPC will need own device driver.
Or if the USB dev has some interface to supply descriptors and process commands from host (internal - inside system, or app level) - it can be done at some level of abstraction.
Resume
- it is possible
- need to know details about device and USB interface in this PPC.

ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V

vijay555 said:
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
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This seems very interesting. Can you tell me how the PPC shows on the Windows PC desktop? It has mostly two drives then, a possible SD card included.
Can you change the drive letter via local disk management?
Happen to know if it would work on Jasjar?
Huib

I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V

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I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V
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Thanks, I will defenitely buy this stuff when they make a Universal Version.
Huib

if it works on wm2005 then it works on universal too

Blue Angel Hyperterminal and Telnetl Via Bottom Connector

Hi there
Part of my job envolves monitoring data from various sensors, this involves booting my laptop, pluging it in, cause the battery fecked, hookin to the sensor, 3 seconds to check the data then pack it all away again.
I think I`ve found a Hyperterminal for ppc called vxhpc, looks like it has the right functions.
I have opened a plug that I have that connects to the bottom plug, and I can see 22 pins, but I dont know which one does what.
I`m after com1 wiring I think, it will mostly be RS232 signals that I`m monitoring.
The options in the software are:
Serial cable on com1
CAM1
IR Port
Com2 Serial on usb
there are a few more.
I assume serial on com1 is the obvious choice, but you guys and gals will know better than me.
So the pin outs of the bottom connector, and if anyone knows of a better software, that would be fanastic.
The telnet part, I also have some telnet software called Mini Telnet, Many of the systems I work on control ship engines and thruster, If i could connect to the engine managment system network via the XDA2S, I could, In theory, control the ships movement, and monitor the system aswell.
Unfortunatly, due to saftey reasons, all networks on ships are hardwired.
Is it possible to connect from the bottom plug to a network hub ?????
If so, do you know how ?
Thanks for all your help
All the best
Nikki

just noticed, the Wallaby and Himalaya have the same wiring, does this mean, chances are the blue angel is the same again ? maybe ??

okay, i have been investigating a wee bit, my findings so far, this is about the telnet side of things, if I`mwrong anywhere, please correct me.
Taken from the wiki site
5 ANALOG GND
6 RS232_DCD
7 RS232_CTS
8 RS232_TXD
9 RS232_RTS
10 RS232_RXD
11 RS232_DTR
So, RJ-45 to DB9 pc comport
rj 45 side -------------------XDA2s Side
1 DCD------------------------6 DCD
2 DSR------------------------?? DSR, i dont see this one on the list, is it important ?
3 DTR-------------------------11 DTR
4 SigGnd----------------------5 SigGnd, Plenty of these
5 TXD-------------------------10 RXD ???
6 RXD-------------------------8 TXD???do i have these the right way around ?
7 CTS-------------------------7 CTS
8 RTS-------------------------9 RTS
So, does this look about right ? and how important is the DSR signal, I`m unsure of it puropse.
Like I said, if you see anything wrong, at all, please post
cheers
nikki

If using com 1 make sure you have beams switched off in settings/connections, also disable any external keyboard driver if present as this too will take com 1.

USB - RS232 / GPS / data logger

Hello everybody,
first of all, I want to apologize myself for my questions, because they are often discussed in several forums (USB-RS232).
BUT I did not find a solution. Sometimes I found "it works" and sometimes for the same problem "no chance". Enough ;-)
I'm writing a program in VB.net to log
1) all data from the GPS at COM4 and
2) all data from an acceleration sensor which might be connected via the USB-Port of my XDA Orbit (HTC Artemis).
Logging the GPS-data is no problem excepted the speed of the Sirf star III Chip. Can it update faster than 1sec?
My main problem is the connection to the sensor. I know that port of the XDA is an USB-Client. The data I receive from the development-board is sent via RS232-out.
My question:
Is it possible to get those data-strings into the xda to log them via the existing USB-port? How can I implement it?
Can I connect the USB-plug and the RS232 like I found several times in this forum? Does it work???
The solution of this project is very important for me.
For everybodys help, I am very grateful.
Thank you very much.
Greetings from Germany
Dee

If I understand you correctly, you wish to connect an RS232 output to the mini USB connector on your device and log the serial data coming into the USB port? Yes, this is possible, but not without a PIC microcontroller in between. RS232 runs on, IIRC, +9v/-9v, while USB runs on +5v. If you directly plug an RS232 output into your USB input without anything in between you very well might fry your phone. I don't recommend it.
Fortunately, RS232 to USB devices are easily found, both schematics and pre-made adapters.
A quick Google search found this schematic:
http://pinouts.ru/SerialPortsCables/usb_serial_adapter_pinout.shtml
fluxist

Hi fluxist,
thank you for your answer. It sounds very good to me. But does it work with an USB-Client-PDA?
Thanx a lot.
Greetings
Dee

USB Client to rs232
Hellow
If You want "USB Client to rs232" interface please contact me([email protected]). I can produce it for You. I Use this converter in many PDA projects.
Best regards
RBA

Serial Port for Athena t-mobile ameo

I cant find a pinout for the 16pin plug and was wondering where I can find it, but I dont think that would help me anyway.
I have a requirement for a Standard Serial port (RS232 type not USB).
Does anyone have any experience/advice on how to do this?
Do USB to serial adapters work?
Is there a mini SD to Serial port that anyone makes?
Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance
Jon

Have a look at something like this http://www.roalan.com/Bluetooth Wireless Serial RS232 Converter.htm you will have to code your own application for the phone to make use of it, I have used a similar device with my Athena - Mike

Thanks,
I am trying to avoid a wireless conection. What I am trying to do is use the Athena as a moving map for a glider. To do this I need to make use of an external GPS NMEA source. The software I am using works fine on a pda that has a std com port, I am hoping for a 'quick fix' to try it on the athena.
will this work, I havent looked for drivers yet tho!
http://www.roalan.com/USB to Serial RS232 RS422 RS485 Converter.htm
Cheers
Jon

I have to ask the obvious question though, why not use the internal GPS receiver in the phone? - if the application software you have isn't capable of switching the internal GPS on (some struggle with this) use Fransons GPS Gate to activate the inbuilt receiver and configure the ports, I would expect the inbuilt GPS to work quite well in a glider to be honest, and it does output NMEA data - what mapping application are you trying to use?
USB / RS232 converters are not the way forwards though, the mini USB port on the device is not a true USB port, it will not work with this sort of hardware, even if it did the converters generally don't work well as they don't use standard RS232 voltage levels - Mike

A good question. The external NMEA source contains additional sentances for things like accurate air speed and vertical speed that comes from a flight computer making measurements of the air. This is used for some of the calculations on the PDA. The software I will probably use is called SeeYou http://www.naviter.si/products/seeyou-mobile.php. There are several others, but this seems to work best in Landscape which is how I want it.
The internal GPS works fine with the software just to give map position.
I have managed to get it working by emulating a NMEA output over Bluetooth from a PC. I will try something like the Bluetooth to serial adapter and see what happens!
Cheers
Jon

Is there a hardware serial port anywhere?

Hi folks,
Does anyone know if the Uni has an accessible UART (hardware serial port) anywhere on the motherboard? I want to physically connect to a device that needs serial access. I'm happy with level-shifting from 3.3V to RS232, which I assume I'll need to do - just need ot know where there is a tx and rx pin that I can get to.
Cheers if you can help,
Johnny_G

Is there any progress after 7 years ? I need uart too, but maybe it`s impossible in universal?