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lol toothing?

http://toothing.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=tchat&action=display&num=1078412493
technology only ever make it if somebody decide to make people relate it with sex somehow
just think about vcr, internet .......
heck these days the 3g company called 3 run comercials which border on sugesting that their video phone could be used for advanced phoneSex
lol crazy old world

Hmmm, after reading the article I now understand 'toothing' is an abbreviation of BlueToothing, but the term sounds rather disgusting to anyone not familiar with the term :?

yeah sounds like something hanibal lector would consider foreplay

Slightly offtopic, but coming from this article I found two applications designated for Bluetooth Messaging/Chat, Bluechat and ProximityMail, both are non-working on my MDA-II
BlueChat seems to incorporate a hard-coded port, and ProximityMail says it can't find a Bluetooth Stack...
So, no proper toothing for me hahaha

Is there any toothing SW working with XDAII?
Have you tried BuZZone from Handango?
Or have you found anything working on your own?
Thanks!
Chris

BuZZone
By the way...
Hello Chris,
Yes, we plan to support Microsoft Bluetooth stack software in future versions. Your XDA II Bluetooth works with this software. Current BuZZone version supports only WIDCOMM's stacks on devices like HP iPAQ, Dell Axim, Asus, Fujitsu-Siemens, etc.
Kind Regards,
BuZZone Team

Is this the answer to all our bluetooth prayers?

Surfing the web, I noticed that Widcomm just launched a new BT development kit for the PPC/Phone Edition (That's the one we have!).
You can find information here:
http://www.widcomm.com/Products/bluetooth_comm_software_btce.asp
This is what they got to say about it:
NEW!
BT-PPC/Phone Edition leverages current BTW-CE/PPC features and includes the following profiles (GAP, SDP, SPP, GOEP, OPP, FTP, SYNC, DUN, HSP, HFP & PAN).
Key features of this product:
Addition of WAN connectivity features
Implement cellular connectivity
Manage audio traffic routing to headset
Display radio signal strength (RSSI) on screen
Implement power management scheme (enable WAN connectivity while PPC is off/sleep)
Initial release OMAP platform
I am extremely interested to know if anyone knows where to find an installable app for our XDA's. The fact that they say that an initial release is only for the OMAP platform worries me slightly, because I think that only the orginal XDA was based on that.
Best regards,
Bastian

I do not believe Widcomm sells directly to end users. They sell to OEM's to include in their product. The product can't be just installed. It has to be tailored for each device individually by the OEM. So, HTC would have to package the software into one of their ROM updates. However, since licenses for the Widcomm BT stack cost money, I wouldn't hold my breath expecting HTC to foot the bill to give us a good BT software stack. I don't know for sure, but its a reasonable guess.
Besides, the Widcomm BT stack has been around for a while. There wasn't a specific PPCPE as there appears to be now, but the current version would have worked as well as the Microsoft stack that HTC uses now. If they didn't get Widcomm then, I wouldn't expect them to add it now. May for the XDA III

Hope....
Let's hope that HTC will do this in the future, because the current BT implementation sucks.
-Bastian

I think this isthe one for the new iAPQ h6300... As of the manual h6300 has the same BT Manager of other iPAQ devices but with some additional headset Profile, nothing about Handsfree Profile till now...

Bluetooth PC software : : Widcomm BTW 4.0

Exclamation Arrow Broadcom Corporation announced the Widcomm BTW 4.0, a new release of its Bluetooth software, with enhanced security and adding advanced audio/video (A/V) capabilities to the industry's most widely adopted Bluetooth software. The new software was tested and qualified for native support and seamless operation with Mcft's recently announced Service Pack 2 upgrade for the Windows XP operating system (Windows XP SP2).
Wireless, high quality stereo audio headsets and speakers enabled by the new WIDCOMM BTW (Bluetooth for Windows) 4.0 software is a new application expected to drive widespread Bluetooth adoption for consumers over the coming years. A/V enhancements built into BTW 4.0 software will bring a new level of audio quality to wireless headsets, enabling a generation of products capable of delivering CD-like stereo sound without the need for wires. The same A/V Bluetooth profile support can be expected to appear in upcoming consumer electronics products like MP3 players, cellular phones, PDAs, and other appliances.
The company sees wireless headsets or speakers enabled with this technology streaming high quality sound while also performing remote control functions such as pausing or stopping play, and selecting tracks. In addition, consumers can utilise wireless speakers, enabling enhanced sound and audio distribution for DVD and CD playback.
Broadcom's WIDCOMM BTW 4.0 incorporates the latest software "profiles," which ensure a common set of features between two Bluetooth devices. Bluetooth profiles are developed and standardized through the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG). BTW 4.0 features many of the latest profiles, which provide advanced multimedia capabilities including:
GAVDP -- Generic Audio Video Distribution Profile
A2DP -- Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
AVRCP -- Audio Video Remote Control Profile
BTW 4.0 also supports the Basic Imaging Profile, which provides the ability to "push" and "pull" images wirelessly between a mobile phone or digital camera and a PC.
"BTW 4.0 answers two distinct needs in the Bluetooth space: enhanced security, and the ability to effectively stream high-quality audio to wireless headphones or speakers. It is changing the dynamics of how consumers will experience multimedia content on their PCs," said Ron Wong, Senior Product Line Manager for Broadcom's Bluetooth software products. "Broadcom's unique ability to design and deliver all the critical technology pieces for next-generation wireless electronic devices enables our partners to bring products to market quickly and with features that hold great appeal for consumer markets."
PC OEMs are already shipping Bluetooth in a large number of their commercial notebook PCs and are expecting continuous growth and accelerated adoption into 2005. With this rapid adoption, large enterprises have expressed growing concerns over security and software virus spreads. The new WIDCOMM BTW4.0 software incorporates enhanced security capability to help address these concerns
The software is currently shipping to Broadcom's early access partners...and is available free of charge to all members exclusively
Download:
http://my.so-net.net.tw/dean8888/Widcomm_BTW 4.0.1.700.rar
Thank soneone upload

thanks for sharing...
a question for ya... have ya tried the software yourself? is it work good with no problems?

i tried it and installed fine but now my bluetooth isn't working when i try to start the BT i get this error "Your Bluetooth Software License doesn't include use with this bluetooth device. [6] and i have a billionton 100m bluetooth dongle

Somehow I'm doubtful that this really will do waht I'm looking for, has anybody tried it to get audio sent from the unit to their BT headset with this software?

BT 4.0 "patch"
You also need the attached to get the Widcom to work. Follow instructions in #2 folder.

I've got the same problem
What ya mean with folder #2 ??
Edit Aaah now theres a file

thanks man.. all working now..

Sorry forgot patch

after installing the Widcomm 4.0.1.700 software i can't set my computer as a handsfree device on my O2 mini (the voice gateway seems not to work too)...
both of them used to work.
anyone else has this problem? :?
BTW: how can i transfer files throw this bt software to my mini?
everytime i choose filetransfer it says the device doesnt support it.
even with MICROSOFT drivers i managed to send files to the device :shock:

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Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help

It works on XDAII,.. I am making a how to post now. The experts say it is from an XDAII and for an XDAII.. But who knows!!! Try it. :shock:

Churchill said:
Knot said:
Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3550

Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?

718 said:
Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?
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It's for Window PC

I replaced the files from your .rar dewild1 but i get the same message when i'm trying to "start using bluetooth" : " Your bluetooth software license does not include use with this Bluetooth device". Is something that i can do to make them work? I had the "rom version 2.06.00WWE" and the "radio version 1.18.00" and i can't syncronize my xda to activesync via bluetooth, and i hoped that this driver will help me.

Microsfot Wireless Bluetooth intelli explorer mouse & JA

can this be done?
my magician detect the intelli mouse, but can do nothing with it...
cant also use the "stowaway think outside mouse" drivers since they detect only the Stowaway mouse... also couldnt use the IFrog Bluetooth keyboard drivers, even though they support HID detection...
can someone know how to connect between these two?

any news on that... i´m trying to use intellimouse explorer, too... no luck...
someone out there to patch the Thinkoutside drivers ?

I saw somebody saying that the widdcom BT stack supported the mouse...
I dont know if its true, but to find out id have to intstall a new OS (im on 2005) and hack around with BT stacks...
Id rather just hear from somebody running the 2.02/2.06 sin merged rom with the widdcom stack to see if it works. But i guess there isnt anybody with that combination and a BT mouse too.

Magician only...
i ment it to work on the magician.
do you have a magician?

I have a german magician,
neither ms bt mous nor ms bt keyb works!

maybe we should state out that bluetooth firstly only specifies the way how information is being transferred: via radio in a certain frequency - nothing else!
It does NOT determine the way how the transferred information is being interpreted. Lets say when you connect your monitor to the vga connector it is already clear what signals are transferred and how they are read out to compose the picture on the screen.
In other cases (e.g. tracking the mouse movements) we must specify before any exchange of data how is will be interpreted. This is done in so called protocols also known as 'profiles' when you speak of protocols in connection with bluetooth devices.
This means that a bt mouse will be detected (this is standardized) but your device will not know how to interpret the data which is being sent from your mouse unless it supports the matching profile (should be 'HID' - Human Interface Device protocol in this case).
The hardware support of the bt hardware itself plus the additional profiles is called a 'stack'. On Magician you will find the original Microsoft BT stack which lacks of many profiles. It has turned out that other stacks like the one from Toshiba or Widcomm also work (more or less) on Magician. Maybe these ones support your hardware. Let me advise you that there are still many issues with alien stacks so dont install these unless your absolutely sure what youre doing!
Hope that i could make things a little bit clearer for you.
regards,
Quappo

Great!
Could we pin this post within the board so it stays on top or - maybe the better solution - could we publish it in the wiki? I guess that's the best newbie explanation of bluetooth I ever read... 8)
Great post, quapo! 8)

Still no HID driver for PPC
Great Answer!!!! ;-)
OK, i knew all that.
still no answer...:-(

Bluetooth Quick Connect / Favorites Today Plugin and/or Command-line app

I'm a Desktop .Net developer with NO bluetooth experience and only a bit of low-level networking experience so I'm speaking from limited knowledge, but not complete ignorance.
I use my phone as an A2DP source and AVRCP client for quite a few devices (Jabra JX20 Pura, Jabra BT3030, Windows Vista, various BT speaker systems) and Alpine BT300) around my house, garage, car, and on the go. They all work wonderfully (some have better range than others, some better sound), but using any of them presents a couple common issues.
Some devices (like my car), constantly seek out the last paired device until they connect, while most of the other require a connection to be initiated from the phone. The phone doesn't care which is around or has the best signal, just which one successfully connects first.
I'd like an app that could have profiles setup which would let me control certain variables OR at a more basic function (see below):
Bluetooth Profile
Device Priority
Minimum Strength (to be used when more than one device has the same priority)
That would be my ultimate goal, but in the meantime I'd be happy with something as simple as a command line app that could be bound to a key or shortcut which would try to connect to a predefined list of BT MACs for a given profile and stop when the first one connects successfully. Variations on this might allow a connection attempt to a specific device instead of a list. This way I could have StartMenu or Today shortcuts.
The point here is largely to have to avoid nagivigating all the menus needed to initiate an A2DP connection, but I'm sure there are MANY other uses people would find.
If someone could point me in the right direction (I'm researching already of course) to the namespace(s) and or class(es) in .Net 2 or newer which would allow me to enumerate and/or initiate connections, this may be something I could bring to the community (assuming it doesn't already exist, and I have asked MANY times).
I've created a poll also to see what kind of interest is out there for this software and how much support I might receive.

I've been knocking an app up to suit my own personal A2DP needs... and a lot of yours by the look of things ;-) Things it does:
Kinetic scrolling finger friendly list of A2DP devices known to your phone (tap to select then tap again to attempt connection).
Toolbar buttons indicating active A2DP connection status (tap to disconnect active connection).
Bluetooth devices applet shortcut.
Switch bluetooth on (a good few of my devices need the phone to be discoverable so the app forces the phone to be discoverable at all times *blush*).
Switch bluetooth off.
Shortcut to program launcher list (automatically displays this list when you initiate a connection to a selected device... and there's items to display in the list of course).
Command line access (via secondary exe) allowing you to attempt connection (to a named , the last connected or first found device) and disconnect an active A2DP connection. I've only really tested the named device connection but the other 2 modes *should* work
QVGA / VGA and orientation aware.
I've been wanting to work towards getting it up on XDA... but time constraints (and a baby on the way ) have gotten in the way and it's unlikely I'll have the time to do it for a good while. I'd be happy to pass on the code to someone willing to take it further if that's any use. It's written (very quickly!) in VB.net BTW.
It uses a few bits and bobs from other people though:
A2DPToggle's "a2dp.exe" to handle initiating a connection.
Icons from lord only knows where I found them.
The kinetic list code found on here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333124&highlight=klist). IIRC, I used the gingercat updated version and tweaked it to my own needs. There's many a kludge I've put in to the code to get things working quick-smart (D-Pad navigation mainly).
InTheHand 32feet.NET libraries (http://inthehand.com/content/32feet.aspx). These work with MS Bluetooth stack only.
So permission from the respective folks above would be needed before releasing it into the wild I guess.
Here's a screeny

Hey great tool! When I click a device will it auto connect or only open the BT Explorer and will it work with Broadcom BT Stack? Thanks

Oops, meant to say it's been developed for the MS bluetooth stack only. Sorry about that.
When you attempt to connect to a device it first checks the device is reachable and only then attempts to initiate an A2DP connection.

Northernmost said:
I've been knocking an app up to suit my own personal A2DP needs... and a lot of yours by the look of things ;-) Things it does:
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Absolutely. I can get around in VB.Net and C# just fine. If you don't want to publish the code publicly, PM me your email address and I'll invite you to my Sharepoint site (easiest way I know to share files and manage communique), otherwise attach here.
It sounds like you've already covered 99% of what I was looking for, but I'd be more than happy to do what I can to more the idea forward, even taking suggestions from others in this thread.
About the BT stack, I'm running a Vogue with a ROM cooked in PPCKitchen, how do I determine which stack I'm running and can that be changed?

rainabba said:
About the BT stack, I'm running a Vogue with a ROM cooked in PPCKitchen, how do I determine which stack I'm running and can that be changed?
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I've no idea what stack Vogues come with but the MS stack device list looks like the attachment below. If yours looks the same it's the MS one. I guess the Vogue forum should have any info on swapping stacks if it's possible.

Sounds like I found the correct people to answer my question about BT. Is there a way / how can I: enable my Mogul 6800 phone to transmit the sound that would normally go through the speaker to my BT headset in order to listen to streaming audio from the net using Kinoma Play which goes out and picks up all sorts of "radio programs" , i.e. not using a direct URL. I am also not able to listen to audio files from the Audio Recorder through anything except the speaker, even not through a head phone. Do I need to download a program or set up my phone differently. I currently have Titan WM6.1 Build 20755 GPS kitchen from PPC Geeks. Thanks so much for your help.

jminor4326 said:
Sounds like I found the correct people to answer my question about BT. Is there a way / how can I: enable my Mogul 6800 phone to transmit the sound that would normally go through the speaker to my BT headset in order to listen to streaming audio from the net using Kinoma Play which goes out and picks up all sorts of "radio programs" , i.e. not using a direct URL. I am also not able to listen to audio files from the Audio Recorder through anything except the speaker, even not through a head phone. Do I need to download a program or set up my phone differently. I currently have Titan WM6.1 Build 20755 GPS kitchen from PPC Geeks. Thanks so much for your help.
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You need an A2DP capable device (high quality), connected, THEN start your audio program OR use a program called Audio Gateway with a basic Bluetooth headset (low quality audio).

thank you very much.

Northernmost, how about that source code? If you want to pass it along less privately than a post here, PM me and I'll provide a solution (source control, WSS, etc.)

Sent you a PM the other day. Let's go the private way for now.