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Thought I would start this thread to identify the best IM for WM5.0 or Wizard. We are looking for a universal IM that connects to MSN, ICQ, AOL and Yahoo.
I have Agile Messenger but it seems to disconnect all the time while in a call or just randomly. Not to reliable. My wife has the sidekick and the IM is flawless.
What do you use and recommend?
Agile Messenger
Pro:
Nice interface that allows you to see all contacts from different services
You can pull ICQ info so you can see who are ebhind those numbers
Separate tabs for each IM window
Alerts when an IM appears
Con:
Connection drops when on call
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects)
The application will randomly close
I use Agile
About the cons:
Connection drops when on call (It uses GPRS/EDGE, which is the same part of the phone that makes/takes calls. The only other way is to use text messages, and that is costly)
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects) (I've never had that happen to me)
The application will randomly close (I've never had that happen to me)
Does anybody use the AIM that comes setup on the MDA? If not, why not? I don't use anything other than AIM, and the one that came with the phone seems to work fine (although I've only had it for a day now).
From what I've heard, the OZ messenger app which comes installed on tmobile mda uses sms to chat. this means you pay for each sms message unless you have unlimitted sms plan. also, i've found it to be painfully slow.
I think agile is great, especially the WM5 alpha build. agile must disconnect during a call because GPRS/EDGE and voice cannot be used at the same time. I also had random disonnects before I updated to the qtek AKU2 rom. Now that i have updated, agile works flawlessly.
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
eguess said:
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
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OZ absolutely does use SMS. I have performed tests on this where the ONLY use that could have been made of the SMS was the OZ client, and the counter got hit for EVERY message.
That's not a "nasty rumor" - its a FACT.
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Yung said:
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
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I agree, we don't use unlimited SMS either, OZ is definitely SMS-based.
The SMS charges even say "IM" or "AIM" (can't remember which now)
hi, im new to the ppc phones. im using a wizard/o2 xda mini s... and i have a problem.. i can connect to the internet but all my messaging programs cant.. i tried agile, im+ and verichat.. all say cannot connect with current settings.. what should the gprs settings be for tmobile us/ny
help please? thanks in advance
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
sorry, thinking of game by astraware. Try www.shapeservices.com
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gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
the website is www.shapeservices.com and somehow I don't like IM+ very much. I like agile better.
new IM software half price
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
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Hmm. Not free though...
I have been using the T-Mobile USA messenger software. It works, but the incoming messages are very slow. Outgoing ones are fast but the incoming take about 5 mins or so. Where can I download the OZ software?
I went to dl agile and the site says WM5 version coming soon. what version are you guys using?
the WM5 version of agile is due in the next 1-2 weeks...
there's a link to an alpha version of the WM5 agile in another xda-dev thread...
HIE GUYS AV JUST COME ACROSS THIS INTERESTING PIECE OF SOFTWARE WELL ITS NOT REALLY SOFTWARE BUT RATHER IT RUNS VIA THE MOBILE PHONE BROWSER I JUST WENT TO http://mjoy.com ON MY COMPUTER AND I PUT MY PHONE NUMBER AND GOT A LINK TO MY UK MOBILE NUMBER INSTANTLY AND AFTER PLAYING AROUND WITH IT MANAGED TO TEXT FOR FREE TO MOBILE NUMBERS HERE IN THE UK AS WELL AS TEXTING MY GIRL FRIEND IN AFRICA ON SAFARI SO IT APPEARES TO WORK AND CREDIT GOES TO fbifbi .so i just thought i would share this with you guys and as always try this at your own risk and i am not afiliated in any way whatsoever with the company but just thought i would share this i got this from the post below over at the development and hacking forum and if any of you guys know of such similar services please share because international texting is very expensive from the UK thanks
Hey Rhapsody,
Your software is great, been using it for a while now
Anyway, I wanted to interest you with a free (based on ads) sending SMS service. It's really good, works worldwide, and has a daily limit of 100msges if I remember well.
Maybe the support could be added to your app?
http://mjoy.com
Regards
efbiaye
so i just thought i would share this with you guys and as always try this at your own risk and i am not afiliated in any way whatsoever with the company above
is this for real or an advert?
it works awesome!thanks
This is pretty cool. Does any one know of any software that will do the same.
Yes, looks nice, but you really have to ask yourself what's the privacy and advertising policy of mjoy. I'm especially worried about possible SMS spam coming to me and my friends from mjoy or it's affiliates. I've been reading their Terms of usage and here's an interesting paragraph:
"mjoy may use information in your profile without identifying you as an individual to third parties. We do this for purposes such as aggregating how many people in a network like specific offerings, events, cultural offers, such as music, games, movies, etc. and personalizing advertisements and promotions so that we can provide you mjoy. We do our best to offer you a service that is suited to your needs. As advertising is an integral part of our funding and of our allowing you to use our Site and Services, we try to keep the advertising presented to you as close to your presumed interests as possible. If you state your consumer or other preferences explicitly within your profile, we have a much better chance to provide you the information that has a maximum of relevance for you. We do not hand out details about you individually to anyone, however.
We may use information about you that we collect from other sources, including but not limited to newspapers and Internet sources such as blogs, instant messaging services, mjoy Platform developers and other users of mjoy, to supplement your profile. We will allow you to specify that you don't want this to be done or to take other actions that limit the connection of this information to your profile."
Not again...
This entire thread should be removed ASAP, or quite a few people will be changing their numbers sometime soon...
WHAT????
projection said:
not again...
This entire thread should be removed asap, or quite a few people will be changing their numbers sometime soon...
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can you be specific what exactly do you mean ?
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Yes what do you mean?
Why?
pureheart said:
Yes what do you mean?
Why?
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Cuz your number just got spammed !
I've used it 2 or 3 times but haven't received one spam sms.
The only thing that sucks is the limitation of the Message because in each sms there is a link to the Message on the HP where you can read the full massage. Only the beginning of the message is in the sms.
Anybody had a phone bill after using this sort of service?
I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of scheme means that certain messages end up costing money, in the same way that premium pay-per-message services already exist in other ways.
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Anybody had a phone bill after using this sort of service?
I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of scheme means that certain messages end up costing money, in the same way that premium pay-per-message services already exist in other ways.
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It is not possible what you are saying because you don't have any software installed in the phone to send the message it is a WEB site...
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It is not possible what you are saying because you don't have any software installed in the phone to send the message it is a WEB site...
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Here in the UK, we have premium-rate SMS services. To sign up, you send an SMS to a specific number and after that they send you the information you've requested via SMS. Each SMS they send costs you money.
To enable such a service requires no special software. All you need to do is give the provider permission to send you these expensive SMS messages by giving them an SMS with your number in.
So, I can imagine the scenario with mjoy: you type your mobile number into the mjoy website to register for some sort of 'free' service but without realising you also accept that they will charge you for certain other services. These charges will appear in your mobile phone bill along with your other network costs, just like the premium SMS service I described above.
I don't know how likely this is, nor what service mjoy is offering. I haven't visited their site, so apologies if I've got the whole thing wrong.
But you get nothing for free in this world and companies like mjoy will exist to get revenue from subscribers, either by directly charging for the service or by selling space to advertisers.
Perhaps the only advertising is on their website as you visit to collect a message and it will cost you nothing directly. But it would be somewhat naive to assume this without checking, especially since a mechanism already exists for providers of premium-rate services to charge subscribers through the operator's normal billing systems.
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Here in the UK, we have premium-rate SMS services. To sign up, you send an SMS to a specific number and after that they send you the information you've requested via SMS. Each SMS they send costs you money.
To enable such a service requires no special software. All you need to do is give the provider permission to send you these expensive SMS messages by giving them an SMS with your number in.
So, I can imagine the scenario with mjoy: you type your mobile number into the mjoy website to register for some sort of 'free' service but without realising you also accept that they will charge you for certain other services. These charges will appear in your mobile phone bill along with your other network costs, just like the premium SMS service I described above.
I don't know how likely this is, nor what service mjoy is offering. I haven't visited their site, so apologies if I've got the whole thing wrong.
But you get nothing for free in this world and companies like mjoy will exist to get revenue from subscribers, either by directly charging for the service or by selling space to advertisers.
Perhaps the only advertising is on their website as you visit to collect a message and it will cost you nothing directly. But it would be somewhat naive to assume this without checking, especially since a mechanism already exists for providers of premium-rate services to charge subscribers through the operator's normal billing systems.
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Well you are not subscribing to any service when you register, there is advertising on their web site and you can do a simple search in Google to see that no one else had problem with this service...next time research more
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2421931,00.html
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Well you are not subscribing to any service when you register, there is advertising on their web site and you can do a simple search in Google to see that no one else had problem with this service...next time research more
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_2421931,00.html
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I hope you're right. Good luck.
So, how is this free SMS if the other end has to log online to see the entire message???
I can as well send an email over GPRS to someone, and if they have internet they can just check their email. Wow, free text!
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Exactly this type of service just cost me Mrs £6, re received a text message asking her to reply to receive the message upon her reply she received 2 new text messages saying they had cost £3 each.
Not had a bill yet but expecting a nasty one.
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Exactly this type of service just cost me Mrs £6, re received a text message asking her to reply to receive the message upon her reply she received 2 new text messages saying they had cost £3 each.
Not had a bill yet but expecting a nasty one.
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Bah I tried twice to send messages to other number and I fully received the message no need to reply no need to log to the web site to see the full message....(not very long messages)....mah
beware
good day, i just want to share my experience after i register to myjoy the other day, i receive a misscall from these number+37866321929i was confuse what number is this so i try to ring the number then i remember way back in singapore that there is a scam that if you ring the unknown number your top up will be gone and after 1 ring i hangup but its too late for me,my balance 20.00 euro is long gone. ive chk in internet for my call history i have 7sec for 1.99euro and another one 7min for 18.00euro for the same number.
is it possible that mjoy is behind all of this.
Sorry my english is poor
In anycase, i still dont want to provide my number to the public(even not public). Cuz it kinda private stuff and now in most security method they need the mobile number to identify who you are, so if some people use that information in the harm way then i would be stuffed, wouldnt it?
I just got into this article, new version 2.2 has just been released:
http://droidedup.com/2010/05/hullomail-2-2-for-android-now-available/
http://www.hullomail.com/us/android.html
And I found one alternative:
http://www.youmail.com
Is anyone using it with HTC Desire?
Any issue with it? Please if you can give short review
Have been using the previous version with no issues. Not had a lot of VM's but it works in that it sends you an MP3 of the message to your email address, or you can call the local number (included in your contract minutes normally) to retrieve the message as you normally would. You can also set custom greeting message if you wish. I would definately recommend - I've been on T-mobile in UK for few years and retrieving VM's were always the only 'external' charges on my bill each month - no more!
Thanks for your info. But I found this app is only for UK and US...
It is not available for other countries
Too bad, I live in NL.
And I can't find alternative.
I was thinking if there is an app that can simply record voicemail to local phone storage as mp3. That would be enough...
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Have been using the previous version with no issues. Not had a lot of VM's but it works in that it sends you an MP3 of the message to your email address, or you can call the local number (included in your contract minutes normally) to retrieve the message as you normally would. You can also set custom greeting message if you wish. I would definately recommend - I've been on T-mobile in UK for few years and retrieving VM's were always the only 'external' charges on my bill each month - no more!
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Found http://www.youmail.com/
The thing that I dont understand, how does it works "actually"? Because the basic service is free.
From their FAQ:
Q. How does YouMail work?
It's really simple. Calls you don't answer get forwarded to YouMail instead of your current wireless voicemail. That's it.
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So, I will still pay to forward the voice mail to YouMail, correct?
I tried hullomail for about a day, and frankly didnt really like it,
had to sign in every time etc.. was just annoying so gave it up
Sign in? I never have to sign in. The only problem with hullomail I guess is that if you have your internet connection off, you wont get to know that you have a voicemail. (someone plz correct me if i am wrong here)
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Sign in? I never have to sign in. The only problem with hullomail I guess is that if you have your internet connection off, you wont get to know that you have a voicemail. (someone plz correct me if i am wrong here)
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Unfortunately, this appears to be the case - if your phone is offline you get no notification. Hullomail originally offered SMS notifications, but they are no longer available. Customers who set-up SMS notifications in the past are still receiving them however!
WORKAROUND TO RECEIVE OFFLINE HULLOMAIL SMS NOTIFICATIONS
When a voicemail or missed call is registered by Hullomail, the system can send you both an email with the details/message, and a separate notification email.
It's possible that you could set the notification to go to an email>sms address - a number of providers, including some mobile companies - offer this service. (ipipi is one such provider that used to.. You'd have to double check)
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Unfortunately, this appears to be the case - if your phone is offline you get no notification. Hullomail originally offered SMS notifications, but they are no longer available. Customers who set-up SMS notifications in the past are still receiving them however!
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My SMS notifications has stopped.
UpdateHullomail now offers SMS notifications, and transcription.
Both services are at a cost, and can be purchased in the 'in-app store' after installing the app in Google Play. One or more services might not be available for certain countries.
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I've been using this for years, on Blackberries then Androids. It's always been flawless for me, and it's handy to have a permanent email with the voicemail attached. The facility to "just" dial in to get your voicemails when there's no data signal is great too.
Anyone recommend a decent visual voicemail app ?
I'm aware that t-mobile US do an app for android, but they don't seem to do it in the UK.
Any other apps that are recommended to do the same thing ?
I use Hullomail. Works fine. But the biggest problem is it gives you notifications only via emails. So if you are in an area which has no data connection, you would never come to know if you have a voicemail.
yeah i use hullomail too, its still a bit slow but they are actively working on it.
you can solve the problem of not knowing that you have a message by subscribing to free sms updates in your account, this will text you if you have a missed call or a voicemail.
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yeah i use hullomail too, its still a bit slow but they are actively working on it.
you can solve the problem of not knowing that you have a message by subscribing to free sms updates in your account, this will text you if you have a missed call or a voicemail.
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How do you subscribe to free sms updates? I can't see an option anywhere.
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How do you subscribe to free sms updates? I can't see an option anywhere.
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you need to login to hullomail on the web and go to the notifications tab, there are two check boxes there which you cant miss, one for missed calls and one for voicemails.
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you need to login to hullomail on the web and go to the notifications tab, there are two check boxes there which you cant miss, one for missed calls and one for voicemails.
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Don't have a tab called notifications. Have an option for missed calls, but none for sms updates. Weird.
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Don't have a tab called notifications. Have an option for missed calls, but none for sms updates. Weird.
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Are you lloking on the hullomail website or in the app? because i'm talking about the website and inbetween the email and service info tabs is one called notification and the option for sms reminders is there. I have no tab for missed called on the website.
have you setup your provider? i'm with t-mobile possibly the service of sms is only provided in conjunction with them.
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Are you lloking on the hullomail website or in the app? because i'm talking about the website and inbetween the email and service info tabs is one called notification and the option for sms reminders is there. I have no tab for missed called on the website.
have you setup your provider? i'm with t-mobile possibly the service of sms is only provided in conjunction with them.
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was talking about the website as well. i don't have anything between the email and service info tabs. the missed call option is under the 'General' tab. I am also with t-mobile btw.
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was talking about the website as well. i don't have anything between the email and service info tabs. the missed call option is under the 'General' tab. I am also with t-mobile btw.
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ok dude, i've emailed the devs to ask as they have been very helpful to me in the past when i was using a blackberry.
you are in the uk right?
yep, in the UK.
Thanks so much for contacting them!
For you, does the sms service work seamlessly?
yeah it all works really well.
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yeah it all works really well.
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Second that! Hullomail sms service works really well for me too.
Also no SMS option, in the UK
this is the answer from andy at hullomail, so you can email them ad they'll enable sms notifications.
Hullo Will,
Yes that is the downside of any data notification mechanism - can't wait for data to be the only carriage so we get 100% coverage .
We are balancing two issues with SMS, usability and expense. Our aim is to keep our service free so we've gradually been limiting the use of SMS as its the single most expensive element of running the service. Today HulloMail is taking over 2M messages a month in voicemails and missed calls and currently growing 20% month on month.
However saying all that we enable SMS on a per request basis -- it can be requested via [email protected]. We will be bundling SMS freely as part of a premium bunch of features which can be switched on and off via the mobile app as and when needed in Q3.
On the background thing we will be adding this functionality. We currently use a mix of web and native views but our plan is to evolve the message list to auto-update in the background -- bare with us on this one
I hope I answered all your questions.
cheers
andy
Thanks Kinkade!
Thumbs up for Hullomail here too.
I've just logged in and I'm fortunate in that I get the option for SMS notifications.
It's probably because I've been using Hullomail since the middle of last year.
Regards,
Dave
Yeah, the HUllo mail guys are awesome, they have always been really quick whenever i've queried summat.
apparently they are growing at 20% per month and process over 2million messages a month. thats the main reason for having to request sms notifications apparently its the biggest cost for them
as title i was wondering if there is any free sms apps to allow to send sms thur wifi /gprs as im on a free wifi/gprs traif
Gary:) said:
as title i was wondering if there is any free sms apps to allow to send sms thur wifi /gprs as im on a free wifi/gprs traif
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Send an email?
Its not quite free but you get 2p texts (im from england) but i think its an international thing: fishtext http://www.fishtext.com/
you install a java app and send them from in there, the reciever gets the text message from your number (rather than the text service's number) so friends can just click reply.
it's easy to top up your online credit, just send a normal text from your phone to fish text and it takes £5 off your credit and puts £5 in your online credit.