I have a Sandisk Wifi + 256 mb card in my MDA Compact and eventhough the driver and such work flawlessly, the wifi performance is very disappointing. With an internet download benchmark I got about 26KB/s througput. I knew the card wasn't going to be fast before I bought it, but I was expecting to get at least something like 100KB/s.
At first I thought the problem was with the card itself, but when I tested an Sandisk Ultra II 256MB SD Memory card with pocket mechanic I noticed that the throughput to the memory card was also very low (0.26MB/s).
The throughput to the supplied mini SD was even worse (0.10MB/s).
Now I am wondering, is there a general problem with the SD bus interface? Can someone verify these results for me?
Or am I mistaken and should I not expect anything more? I did a full SPB benchmark on the device itself and the numbers were even a little better than to some posted in a review.
TIA!
yeah the jam seems to be slow with cards for some reason?!?!
i got a simpletech 10mb read/write one of the fastest and best cards out and i used to get over 1mb read/write on the xda2 with it but on the jam it gets 0.26mb write and 0.78mb read
with my ultra 60x 1gb it only gets 0.23 read and 0.63 write :\
seems so slow
I get similar speeds to this on my XDA II but the SD Card is much faster in an external USB 2.0 reader/writer.
Even worse, I bought a standard speed SanDisk 512k SD card that is so slow, the XDA II can not write to it at all!
I now only buy Ultra 60x or faster SD cards even though you don't get anything like that in performance in the O2 device itself - just reliablilty.
I use an external SD card reader/writer to load it with MP3s etc. I suffer 20 minute backups with Sprite Backup to SD card daily as I have no choice. (I also back up to 2 PCs as well daily - not much faster).
gazzaman2k said:
on the jam it gets 0.26mb write and 0.78mb read
with my ultra 60x 1gb it only gets 0.23 read and 0.63 write :\
seems so slow
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Hi guys!
I've got 2 512M SD memory card:
- Sandisk UltraII 512MB
- Panasonic High speed 512MB
...and I've got 2 device:
- i-mate Jam (QTEK S100)
- Canon PowerShot SD300 camera
Waht's the difference between the 2 SD?
In your opinion the speed are identical?
Is it better to put the Sandisk into Jam or into the camera?
Hi
I read a long discussion about SD card speeds on this site ages ago.. as i understand it, PPC can only read and write at a FRACTION of a slow/normal SD cards read/write speed, so it really makes no difference.. might as well put the biggest, cheapest card you can in it as anything alse is a waste of a memory card...
My own limited experince with a few sd cards i have (bog standard up to sandisk xtreeme III) shows no difference in speed across the cards.
Lovely caemra you have by the way
Gero
Hi
I read a long discussion about SD card speeds on this site ages ago.. as i understand it, PPC can only read and write at a FRACTION of a slow/normal SD cards read/write speed, so it really makes no difference.. might as well put the biggest, cheapest card you can in it as anything alse is a waste of a memory card...
My own limited experince with a few sd cards i have (bog standard up to sandisk xtreeme III) shows no difference in speed across the cards.
Lovely caemra you have by the way
Gero
Thanks!!
Well... I understand that in ppc I can put the slower one but...
Sandisk Ultra II vs Pnasonic highspeed?
What is the faster? (I'll put the faster in my camera!)
Has anybody benchmarked and mini SD Cards compatible with the wizard.
I am thinking about waiting for the 1GB 66x mini sd card if it helps speed up the wizard in running programs.
any idea of performance 's of mini sd cards?
is the mini sd card slower or faster then the built in memory?
any recomendations of mini sd card for the wizard ?
I doubt the Wizard would have the hardware to take advantage of high speed cards. High speed cards are typically for devices like highend digicams and video cameras that would utilise the extra speed.
does the speed of the SD card makes any difference on the universal? and which is better to use SD or MMC?
SD. Speed doesn't make much difference as the read is slow. I have a 2GB Sandisk Ultra II and I am happy.
I'm using sandisk extreme III. It felt faster downloading, copying and installing files then my normal speed Apacer sd card.
I got a 32Gb MicroSDHC class-10 memorette card.
I verified the speed with a card reader + h2testw that write speed is : 14.7MByte/sec
read speed: 17.5MByte/sec
But when I used the class10 card in tmobile HD2, I am shocked.
When I copy a 720MB movie the write speed is about 4MByte/sec.
h2testw program when used on hd2 connected to PC, showed write speed as 4.8 MByte/sec only.
It needs to be noted the same card when tested with h2testw and a card reader gave 14MByte/sec but gives less than 4.5MB/sec on HD2.
How to fix this problem of HD2 microsd card speed!
Looks like HD2 usb controller has some problem.
the card is indeed class-10.
Please let me know a solution to this problem on HD2.
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I got a 32Gb MicroSDHC class-10 memorette card.
I verified the speed with a card reader + h2testw that write speed is : 14.7MByte/sec
read speed: 17.5MByte/sec
But when I used the class10 card in tmobile HD2, I am shocked.
When I copy a 720MB movie the write speed is about 4MByte/sec.
h2testw program when used on hd2 connected to PC, showed write speed as 4.8 MByte/sec only.
It needs to be noted the same card when tested with h2testw and a card reader gave 14MByte/sec but gives less than 4.5MB/sec on HD2.
How to fix this problem of HD2 microsd card speed!
Looks like HD2 usb controller has some problem.
the card is indeed class-10.
Please let me know a solution to this problem on HD2.
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The HD2 doesn't read or write to sd cards at that high of speed... that's why it's pointless using class 6 or 10 cards in a HD2. I think most phones are like that. Class 6 and 10 cards are mainly used for digital cameras, where having high sequential write speeds matters.
zarathustrax said:
The HD2 doesn't read or write to sd cards at that high of speed... that's why it's pointless using class 6 or 10 cards in a HD2. I think most phones are like that. Class 6 and 10 cards are mainly used for digital cameras, where having high sequential write speeds matters.
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I have earlier used a nokia 5800 xpressmusic phone with a class 6 16GB card.
The data transfer speeds were higher than HD2.
Generalizing from a single instance (HD2 scenario) may not be correct.
I'm going to go with that the HD2 does not transfer faster than 5.3 MB/sec between the PC and the phone regardless of what the internal transfer rate between the phone and card is.
Using a class 6 card myself, i have noticed that the phone is much more responsive than it was with the class 2 card in there and movies play without stuttering from the class 6 card and applications launch quicker.
my nokia n81 8gb did 8MB/sec from internal 8GB and so did my KM900. The KM900 did 6.2MB from the same classs 6 card
I was under the impression the HD2 maxed at 16 gig. Maybe that's the problem?
Like zarathustrax said, the HD2 isn't capable of read/write any higher than a class 4 card. I think somewhere on the EVO forum there's a fix to unlock the read/write capability for a higher speed but I dunno if anyone here has tried the fix, or if it even works for the HD2 at all.
anhyeuemmaimai said:
I'm going to go with that the HD2 does not transfer faster than 5.3 MB/sec between the PC and the phone regardless of what the internal transfer rate between the phone and card is.
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This is not true. I've copied large files at over 10MB/s directly to the phone. I can't vouch for every hd2 though as it's quite possible they have different hardware. Also the speed drops dramatically if you're copying many smaller files.
I am thinking to buy memorette 32 gb microsd class 10 for my HD2.
As far as I have understood:
1) No matther what I cannot use it fully Class 10 speed when connected to HD2
2) When I connect it to my PC with card reader I can fully use class 10 speed.
I have sandial 8 gb class 2. When I connect it to my pc with card reader and transfering large amount of data (150+ MB), it cease to operate. I have to reconnect it. Then I shuld transfer in less amount of data or reduce copy speed (such as UltraCopy) . I think that is a safety issue for preventing disk from get burned. My question is, will I possibly have some issues with memorette or some other class 10 cards?
Also would it not better using class 10 card in HD2 for using on SD installed Operating System instead of class 6 or 4?
I would appriciate if someone return about memorette. I have never heard about that trademark. I am planning to bid on ebay today.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
lude219 said:
Like zarathustrax said, the HD2 isn't capable of read/write any higher than a class 4 card. I think somewhere on the EVO forum there's a fix to unlock the read/write capability for a higher speed but I dunno if anyone here has tried the fix, or if it even works for the HD2 at all.
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fix to unlock the read/write capability for a higher speed ????? Really ... i have buy a micro sd 16GB class 10 ........
morfil said:
I am thinking to buy memorette 32 gb microsd class 10 for my HD2.
As far as I have understood:
1) No matther what I cannot use it fully Class 10 speed when connected to HD2
2) When I connect it to my PC with card reader I can fully use class 10 speed.
I have sandial 8 gb class 2. When I connect it to my pc with card reader and transfering large amount of data (150+ MB), it cease to operate. I have to reconnect it. Then I shuld transfer in less amount of data or reduce copy speed (such as UltraCopy) . I think that is a safety issue for preventing disk from get burned. My question is, will I possibly have some issues with memorette or some other class 10 cards?
Also would it not better using class 10 card in HD2 for using on SD installed Operating System instead of class 6 or 4?
I would appriciate if someone return about memorette. I have never heard about that trademark. I am planning to bid on ebay today.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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A good quality class 2 or 4 sd card is usually better for running an operating system off of, as lower class cards tend to have faster random access speed and better random read/write speeds. Class 6 and 10 sd cards are designed to have a higher sequential write speed, but to achieve these higher speeds, the card initializes the part of the card that's about to be used. The initialization takes some extra time to get started, but boosts the sequential write/read speed so it's great for digital cameras or writing files sequentially.
But when it comes to using the card to run an OS off of, like android or wp7, or using the card to run apps off of, you are going to be reading and writing many small bits of data from different parts of the card. When it comes to this, you need a card that has a good random access speed and random read/write speeds. A high class card that is tweaked to have high sequential read/write speeds ends up being slower because it keeps initializing each part of the card before accessing it, while the lower class 2 or 4 card that doesn't do the initialization is a lot quicker accessing many small parts of the card because it doesn't have that extra step... but they don't get the speed boosts with sequential read/write.
Many people just assume that a higher class card is always going to be better, but this isn't true at all. It all depends on what you are using the card for. Higher class 6 or 10 cards are perfect for digital cameras, recording video, or transferring large files, etc... if you are going to be doing sequential reading or writing, higher class is better.
But for running apps off of, or running an OS off of, or using it as internal memory for an OS like wp7, or anything that will be accessing many parts of the card quickly or reading many small bits of data, etc., you want a card with a good random access speed and random read/write speeds, and that is something that is not rated on cards... but generally lower class cards are better than higher class cards... especially if you get a good quality brand, like sandisk. Sandisk class 2 and 4 are very good cards for random access speeds.
I hope some of you find this info useful and stop assuming a higher class card means better for all situations.
buzz killington said:
This is not true. I've copied large files at over 10MB/s directly to the phone. I can't vouch for every hd2 though as it's quite possible they have different hardware. Also the speed drops dramatically if you're copying many smaller files.
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You must be special then. In my tests I had no difference in a class 2 and class 6.
morfil said:
I am thinking to buy memorette 32 gb microsd class 10 for my HD2.
As far as I have understood:
1) No matther what I cannot use it fully Class 10 speed when connected to HD2
2) When I connect it to my PC with card reader I can fully use class 10 speed.
I have sandial 8 gb class 2. When I connect it to my pc with card reader and transfering large amount of data (150+ MB), it cease to operate. I have to reconnect it. Then I shuld transfer in less amount of data or reduce copy speed (such as UltraCopy) . I think that is a safety issue for preventing disk from get burned. My question is, will I possibly have some issues with memorette or some other class 10 cards?
Also would it not better using class 10 card in HD2 for using on SD installed Operating System instead of class 6 or 4?
I would appriciate if someone return about memorette. I have never heard about that trademark. I am planning to bid on ebay today.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I am using memorette class 10 32GB microsd currently.
Its affordable and is fully working. I have tested to full capacity read/write using h2testw as I wrote in an earlier post.
Just check the seller's feedback and the description though.
I use TEAM micro sd class 10 on my hero,but after a month my sd card write speed is only 2MB/s.
At the first time,it reach 11MB/s when i tested it with h2testw and sd speed test on my handset.
I only use 640MB for app2sd (ext2) without swap cache.
Could someone explain to me what was happen to my sd card?
Sorry for my bad English