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Orange works Vodafone doesn't! Unlocked with Manipulator

Hi everyone. Great programme thanks but can anyone tell me why my Vodafone contract SIM won't work? I get a signal fine, It detects the Vodafone network fine. But every call drops before connection with Unable to Place Call message. Also will not take incoming calls. My Orange Pay as You Go SIM now works fine... and it has definitely unlocked as only O2 worked before. But I need Vodafone SIM to work.
The Vodafone SIM still works in all other handsets. I have also checked with Vodafone and they say there is no reason why the SIM should not work in un unlocked XDA. There are no calls barred on the account.
Is it a setting I have wrong? Or something I did wrong in the unlocking process? Many thanks for anyone's help.
My XDA is Pocket PC 2002, 32mb RAM
Rom Version: 3.12.07 eng
Rom Date. O8.13.02
Radio Ver: 4.06
Protocol 32S54
David C [/b]

Hi mate,
I have used the unlocked 64 mb xda with vodaphone with no problems. My rom was 3.16 and radiostack 4.20 and it wasn't any problem. Now I have upgraded to the good old xda rom from Jeff's kitchen and new radio stack from O2. I suggest you do the same and it will problably work better.
Good luck.
Cheers
Vic

I would wait a day before trying anything else, the phone is obviously unlocked to both 900 and 1800 mhz networks. I have had experience with Vodafone and T Mobile and Virgin recently where no calls could be placed for many hours, next day everything was normal, some kind of network problem. Have you tried the sms using the Voda sim, also what message does a caller get when trying to call you if you have the Voda sim inserted.

One more thing, I think it says somewhere that if you upgrade the radio stack to 4.21 then the unlock no longer works, so it would be better to get this solved before you upgrade the stack.

Thanks for your suggestions guys. But the Voda SIM works fine in my other phones and I have just tried it again in the XDA and same thing happens. Unable To Place Call. So it's not the network.
When I try to dial in to the Voda SIM on XDA I just hear a long tone...dead. It is a very early XDA. Don't know if that makes a difference.
Any help gratefully received as running out of ideas. Is there a manufacturer that may be able to help? But then they probably know less than you. I doubt if O2 will want to!
Many thanks again
Dave

Oh and Cruisin-Thru
SMS does work both ways...just the voice calls that don't. Any clues?
Thanks v much
dave :?

Have you tried manually setting the network under settings/phone/network, try choosing that and see what happens.

I have yes.
It's detecting Vodafone network fine. Just no calls. It's almost as if there's a call bar on though Voda tell me there isn't and it works in all other handsets.
Thanks anyway
Dave

One other thing, is that a very old sim card? Have you tried another voda sim in the xda, I remember having strange problems with some phones with the earlier sim cards, dont know the difference between them though.

Hi there, thanks. It doesn't work on any Vodafone SIMS. But all other networks. Vodafone say they don't know anything about the XDA and it must be a hardware fault..
Could it be that it is not unlocked "properly"? Should I run manipulator again? Think may have to give up on this one.
Thanks Dave

NO SERVICE? - For no reason

Hello..
I last night put my phone onto "flight mode" so that i was not distrubed in the night if a text came through....
this morning i set it back to normal but the network reception reported NO SERVICE
when it had not come back this evening.... i put my sim in a different phone and used a different network's sim card in my pda.... NO SERVICE was reported for this as well but the sim that was placed in the other phone registered on o2 as soon as the phone was switched on
I've only just bought my MDA but off ebay... although it was new i am unable to contact the seller... please can anybody help??
email me to [email protected] or [email protected] if anybody can help
Thanks

MORE info re above
Hi again
In my frustration I have swapped sims again and this time put VODAFONE pay as you go sim in the MDA Magician above.... It found the network and i was able to ring/text from it.....
On putting the O2 Sim Back into the MDA it said NO SERVICE again.....
But using that very same sim in my nokia finds a network.....
The MDA is originally a TMOBILE one that has been unlocked...
ANY help on this would be very appreciated as I'm very annoyed that it's stopped working.
Thank you

Soft reset?
Although, I think taking your batter out and swapping sims may count as a soft reset.

Thanks for the reply - but again that did not solve it... besides to eliminate this i did a HARD RESET as well and re configured it....
I've even RE UNLOCKED it in case this was the problem
(its a T MOBILE PDA) with an O2 SIM IN...... I bought it in November time and unlocked it the same time... My O2 Sim has been working ok in it until the other night when i decided to put it in "flight mode"(so i wasn't disturbed at night)
Im suspecting that it anything to do with IMEI number vs SIM CARD number? Could this have been blocked somehow to that phone?
Its very confusing as it WORKS with VODA sim and DOESNT with O2 yet the SAME O2 sim works in my old nokia 6610.... aaarggghhhh!! LOL

If your MDA works with a Vodafone SIM, it certainly can't be blacklisted for all UK networks since it picks up Vodafone. Secondly, it sounds more like a SIM card issue relating strictly to the MDA. What happens when you try another O2 SIM card in the same MDA?
Make sure the O2 SIM hasn't been damaged in some way, if all fails you might want to take the MDA to T-Mobile to see if they can determine whether its IMEI has been blacklisted for certain networks. Otherwise a ROM upgrade may also help fix the problem.
Good Luck

My guess is that your magician is reported & listed as stolen. Probably not all providers are using the same list with blocked IMEI numbers. Which can explain that one sim works & the other doesn't though works in an other phone.
See if you can find a list for your country on the web. There are some references to such lists in this forum.
Regards, M

check which band your phone is using....
go Phone>Options>band> then select auto

Help needed using Orange Sim in XDA Mini S

I have two XDA Mini S phones, which I believe are fully unlocked. I am able to use a Vodaphone sim in them and everything works perfect. When I put my works Orange sim in them the phone works i.e. I can make and receive calls but the Sim Manager does not work. Which means I cannot access the contacts on the sim card or use the options menu to configure the phone. When I try to access the options menu I get the message " the phone is not ready, please wait 15 seconds and try again"
Has anyone else had this problem and gotten over or around it. I have spoken to both o2 and Orange and they are both an absolute waste of time. I would appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks.

Hi,
I am on orange too, also had the same trouble. I could make and receive calls, but could not access sim card to add contacts or send / receive texts. The XDA mini is a 2G phone, my orange sim is was a 3G. When I changed it for my wifes 2G orange sim, all worked perfectly, so we just swapped sims and phone numbers. Tried to get a 2G sim out of orange on my contratc, they were having none of it, said I would have to go PAYG. So I did the swap with the wife and extended the contract.
Hope that helps.

Thanks for your advice Mlkey.
Following your response I contacted Orange and changed my works contract 3G sim for a 2G sim on contract. This still does not work and as usual I am getting no real help from Orange.
Looks like the only solution will be to change my mobile / pda, that is, unless anyone else has any other possible fix.
Are PAYG sim's different than contract sim's ??, if they are does anyone know if I were to get a PAYG sim that worked in my XDA would I be able to get my company number transfered to that sim and convert the sim from PAYG on to my works contract account ???.
I would appreciate all the help / advice I can get, before this drives me mad !!!

XDa wizard and Orange sim only
Hi,
I'm having exactly the same problem! O2 to Orange sim only and completely no SMS. Orange support is argueably the worst. Interseting to here that it's version. ie G4/G4..Have read somwhere that VOip SMS maybe the solution? ...If i can find the thread again I'll post a link.
Cheers
Eamonn

Fixed this problem by using the t-mobile 2.26 rom as described in "Definitive Guide to unblocking and rom upgrading g3 wizards

I am having exactly the same problem. My phone is a G4 and I believe it to be fully unlocked from o2. According to orange my sim is a G2 sim because the 7th number of the sim card begins with a 2 and not a 3. I cant even try a different rom because I can't connect to my computer with active sync through usb or bluetooth this has been for about a year now.I usually transfer files through a card reader. Can anybody help me because the deal with orange is really good but the phone is useless without sms or mms and I really dont want to change the phone.
My IPL 2.21.001
SPL 2.21.001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.21.4.1
Cheers Gord

Hi,
I am new to this forum. I have exactly the same problem . Has anyone found any solution to this/ Please help!

The solution is to upgrade the radio rom

SIM Access ORBIT 2 lock

Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack

Sorry I don't have an answer to your problem; I understand car kits using SAP are quite new.
Could you tell me how well it works with other phones in general, and how much you paid?
I understand the SAP system means the car kit has it's own "phone" but accesses your SIM card to connect to the network?

Hi there,
it works great!
You turn on your ignition key and the car kit start opening the connection to your cellular phone in your pocket without any touch of a button ect...
After your drive, you switch of the motor and the car unit disconnects the connection and give the cellular phone its function back.
A great thing, but believe me iam so disappointed that my new Orbit from O2 rejects my simcard but only in combination to my car hands free unit....
Greetings to UK!
Wolf

Wolfman-Jack said:
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
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Hi,
interesting. So just to be clear you tried
1) o2 sim in orbit II - sim access works fine
2) other net sim in orbit II- sim access not work?
if that's the case you could try flashing a new rom, but I would suggest u wait a bit. Maybe check in the kaiser (o2 stellar) forum, for same prob and how to resolve it.

check compatibility of your bluetooth car kit with Polaris seems to be ok
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6084.htm
"This product is compatible with:
. . . .
HTC: Advantage, MTeoR, P3300, P3400, P3600, P4350, P6300, P6500, S310, S620, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Cruise, Touch Dual, TyTN, TyTN II"
so that's out of the way

older thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272235
maybe u could send a pm to mahmood,

ORBIT2 O2 Lock on SIM ACCESS
Hi Jackster,
i have meanwhile a little more what i have checked out.
Yesterday i took all sim-cards which have been in nearby range and what a big surprise all worked fine.
I tried prepaid cards of Vodafone, T-Mobile, and E-PLus and a contract card of E-Plus.
The only simcard which was rejected during the try of connect to the bluetooth devise is my own BASE-SIM-CARD .
BASE is by the why part of EPLUS company thats the FLATRATE PART of EPLUS.
After i tested all, i called my friend which has also an BASE contract and what another big surprise his card also didn`t work.
After all brainstorming it seems that only that BASE-cards were declined.
Next step is to find out what the differences are between all cards and the BASE sim card is. Maybe UMTS and normal GSM????
Maybe a protocol problem, because in my E51 from Nokia all cards also the BASE-CARDS works fine.
Greetings
Wolf

Wolf, I would suggest trying BASE related forums, as the same issue might happen with other handsets.
You might also try phoning BASE, tell them your problem, and asking if they have another type of SIM card you can try, even if you have to pay €10.
Good luck, and please let us know if you find the solution.

good luck

Update and News
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf

Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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it would be difficult to get an old simcard, cause all provider deliver as new card so called USIM Card, most times with 72k Size. Try to get a blank E-Plus Simcard in an phoneshop and call the hotline, ask them for a sim card change and tell them you have a blank simcard you can use (dont tell its an eplus sim card) the cant check it, they will reaktivate your simcard with your base number without questions only minor change... in the phone your provider will be stated as E-Plus cause its programmed in your simcard.

Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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Hello Wolf,
i have the same problem with my new Touch Cruise and my Nokia 616. I tried several Sims´s the last 2 days. One Vodafone (UMTS), one normal O2 (UMTS), one O2-Multicard (UMTS) and one old E-Plus (GSM).
The E-Plus Sim was the only one wich operated normally in SAP-Mode. The other Sim-Cards hanged by connecting after pairing. After turning the igniton off and on, this cards asked for the PIN but they didn´t find a network.
Have you tried another Firmware likes Bepes???

Hello LM76,
no i havent heard about that.
Can you tell me more.
Wolf

HTC HD network problem

Hello,
For first, sorry for my bad english...
I bought HTC TOUCH HD (from Orange UK) from second hand.
I have problem, I don't know if it is SIM locked or it is another problem...I explain..
So, when I insert Orange Slovakia sim card, phone show me all local networks but when I select ORANGE and input PIN code then phone try register to network, but ..... UPDATE: Now, Phone can register to network, but I cannot make call and message send.
When I insert another sim card (T-mobile, O2) Slovakia then phone doesn't accept card and show me message: "The Sim card is missing".
So, I don't know what can I solve this problem...
Last question:
I would like to change to original ROM, but I don't know which is exactly for my phone. I've read that I must search ROM for "S/N", but for my S/N I didn't found.
I have SN : HT91AKD0*****. Can you tell me which original ROM is exactly for my HD??
Thank you very much for any help.
Peter
My Phone:
HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
Os version: 5.2.21901
ROM: kwbr topix 3.6 WWE
Radio: 1.09.25.14

hi Quark01,
I think your problem is much similar to mine. I got one HTC Touch HD from my brother (Orange UK). when i start using this phone in india it won't work becoz it was lock with orange. I unlock this phone from market and now i can use it with vodafone in india. I was always facing network issue and best thing was after unlock also it shows me only UK networks but i can make and receive call but most of the time i was having bad network issue.
Thanks to XDA Developers ROM wiki page which helps me out to find right ppl with right ROM and i updated my ROM after that i solved lots of performance issue and of course network issue also. Now I'm Using this handset in USA with T-Mobile and best thing is whenever i go to other country and try any SIM card it will detect their settings automatically and give me best connectivity.
i think you should see this page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6176060
I asked help for almost same problem and i got lots of reply. Make sure you read more before changing your ROM and you should know everything about ROMs.
Best of Luck