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Internet via bluetooth?

Hi all
Firstly apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. Searching bluetooth returns ... too many results to sift through.
OK, I have this setup. I connect my laptop to the net using either the router OR network cable. My laptop is equipped with BT.
Is there any way to browse the net from my PDA, by establishing a BT connection from XDA2 to the Laptop?
I know it would be a doddle (I hope) if I were to purchase a wifi SD card, but if I can avoid the expense it would be great.
Thanks in advance.

One way would be through BlueTooth ActiveSync. As when in the cradle, when your PPC is connected to your PC through ActiveSync, internet connectivity is through the PC. I use it whenever I am in proximity to my BT laptop. Works well!

If you go to Options in ActiveSync, click the Rules tab, check Open ActiveSync when my mobile device connects. and have the Connection set to The Internet or Work depending how your network is set up. Then establish an ActiveSync connection (USB, serial, Bluetooth or IrDA) and it will allow you use Internet programs like PocketIE, Pocket Outlook, etc.[/b]

I thank you both for your very very quick response.
Yes, both methods work. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am one happy bunny.
Cheers

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

maybe it's a firewall issue
try messing around with the ping program
on your pocketpc and see if you can ping the ip of your computer
and on it's gateway and dns
also make sure your dns settings on your pocketpc is set to the same as your pc
pocket ping
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=11879

Thanks for the advice. Bit stumped really:
My PC has a static IP address (10.130.16.84) I run pocket ping on the XDA and it says it's IP address is 192.168.55.101 the network is DHCP enabled. Neither of them can ping the other one (so there is no way I can connect to the proxy from my XDA2). Any ideas why my IP address isn't in our LAN range.
Just out of interest I can use a Dell X3i and connect to the network wirelessly no problem at all.

Further to baffle everyone - If i disconnect bluetooth and cradle it. I get the same Ip address but can connect to the internet no problem! So this would lead me to believe that all the connection and activesync settings are correct.

not sure here are some guides
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449

Thanks for the help but the guides didn't fix the problem.
I eventually got it working (and a better bluetooth connection in the process) by downloading the slightly newer version of the XTND Blue Manager software http://www.windigosys.com/support.htm
I can now suft the internet on the XDA over activesync and syncrhonise files ok. Slightly slow but this I expect with what is basically a glorified serial port!
The only slight niggle I have now is that ActiveSync always reverts back to COM1 as the default port when I reboot my machine. Is there any way to stick it to com3?

it's blazing away at 700K/sec at least so the specs says

Can't access network via Widcomm Bluetooth

Hi,
I’m using a Dynamode usb Bluetooth dongle with Widcomm 1.4.2.10 on WinXP and the bluetoothgps files on my XDA II. I'm trying to access my LAN and the internet using the Network Access profile, but so far I can’t even ping between the XDA and PC.
I've set up OBEX File Transfer and it works fine in both directions. I go to the Bluetooth Manager, add a new connection, browse the services of my PC and add Network Access. I authorise the connection on the PC then the network connection bubble appear on the XDA but it never connects. I've read on several guides that a specific IP address needs to be given, that’s fine, I want to use static IP addresses. So I go to connection settings for BT Network Access and on the Advanced page set the IP address to 192.168.0.101. I've set the username and password to an account on the PC that has access to everything. On my PC, in network connections I give the Bluetooth Network IP 192.168.0.100 and my LAN connection 192.168.0.1 (the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 for all of them). When I try to connect again, it succeeds, but using vxUtil I get timeouts when l try to ping the PC and vice-versa.
I've also tried it the other way round, setting up the Personal Network Server in Bluetooth Settings and connecting from the PC. In connection settings->Advanced->Network card->BT PAN User Driver I've set the IP address to 192.168.0.101. Again it connects fine, but I can’t ping.
I've also tried the Activesync profile (although this is less important as I can activesync over the network if I get it working). I'm sure I've set Activesync to use the right comm port, but it just says the device is not recognised for one of two reasons.....
This is really frustrating me now, I've tried reinstalling the BT software on the PC side and I’ve tried different versions, but I get the same result every time. I’ve followed several step by step guides on how to do this but still no luck. If anyone's got any ideas please let me know!!
-Tom. A

HI,
Check out this tutorial:
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74

That was the first tutorial i tried, everything works fine until I ping the PC or XDA and I get nothing
-Tom. A

I can ping from my Xda2 to Pc and the same from pc to xda2,everything seems to work fine but..
using resco explorer (trial) It can't find any network pcs.
What's wrong? someone can help me?

connect PPC as wireless adapter

Hi all. I've connected the xda (with WLAN card) to an adhoc net at home and was able to browse the net/connect around (via broadband through a gateway comp). Now I want to hook it up with a laptop (doesn't have wifi) as a wireless adapter. How exactly do I connect the two? Is it by "wireless modem"? Any pointers appreciated. Thanks.

Yep,
You need the driver & usbmodem_dialer. Lucky you I uploaded it a week ago to the ftp under usb_modem. It contains the inf for the laptop, the dialer & a document with the steps to follow
Regards, M

Hi. Thanks for the advice. But I'm not trying to dial GPRS as internet in the PPC is already provided by the SD WLAN card. I'm trying to connect the laptop w/ the PPC so that it can use the internet in the adhoc network. Can it work in the setup? Also, Im assuming that the "wireless modem" software in PPC has to be running? Thanks!

Just follow the document, including the start of the wireless modem program. I think it will work with wifi as well, haven't got a wifi card yet. Maybe Santa can arrange one.
Cheers, M

Well, I tried that and it didn't work. Error 777 or something. Can't connect. Thanks anyway. Seems that the whole thing is suited for GPRS connections. Tried several times on my laptop but it timed out.

Take a good look at the modem init-string. Sometimes I've to add a ,0

Done that (just add ,0 to the end of APN in the extra strings?) but still no go. I'm really confused now. Queried the modem and it seemed to respond just fine. As I'm not going to use the GPRS at all, what should I put in username, password and APN? Also, what about "preset GPRS" in wireless modem? Thanks.

Frankly I don't know, I'm a gprs user and hoped this could solve your problem. Maybe it's only for gprs usage. APN & user/password are usually for gprs & I only had errors in 600 range.
Regards, M

Well, seems that I've hit a brick wall here. Thanks for all the help anyway.

im still with you sekinoss - this woud be a cool thing to do.
As a semi literate PC user I get to go to a lot of poeples places and sort their pc problems (for my sins!)
I've a friend who isnt internet savvy and has a wireless setup for his wifes laptop downstairs and his own pc connecteed to a modem(!) upstairs. Hes non intenet savvy and I want to get windows updates etc for him for the upstairs pc which is generally not net connected. I'd love to just take my PPC there with a usb lead and use it to get him on broadband wireless upstairs and update his windows machine properly. (He usually doesnt bother with the windows updates as they 'take too long' on a modem. Hmm.) Surely this would be a cool use of the PPC - I can't understand that there seems to be no software/method to do this sort of thing.
Ah well! :?:

Can my jasjar and Centrino communicate?

G'day all,
Well I got my jasjar today, and essentially I was originally under the impression that with this I would be able to use the wireless technologies of my laptop and jasjar to sync outlook, and browse the fiels on the notebook etc.
Then reality hit me.
You cannot sync via wireless. Then as it turns out I have no clue on how to setup a wireless network..
So im just wondering if anyone can inform me, is it possible for my jasjar and centrino notebook to communicate with each other wirelessly? If so what do I need to do in order to do that.
Thanks in advance
a very confused wireless enthusiast.

ActiveSync will not work on wi-fi, but you can setup a device-to-device network and use files on a share on your computer. If your Centrino has Bluetooth, you can use ActiveSync with that.

i have AS over bluetooth fine, and allows me to browse the internet etc
i have WIFI configured at home and work which allows me to browse shared folders with passwords and permission, run terminal server to my XP and our Terminal Server, and allows me to run Terminal Server over wireless over the internet direct to my remote work servers.
so it really depends on what you want to achieve, it will more than likely be a combination solution.
WIFI <> AS
WIFI = Internet and Shares and Terminal Server
WIFI = Streaming music and videos
Bluetooth = AS
Bluetooth = Internet
Bluetooth <> Shares and Terminal Server

Well my laptop doesnt have bluetooth so that is no good to me.
Yeah I just want to access the laptops music, video or documents wirelessly. Im a little or completely lost as how to do this, I do not have broadband, and I have no networking experience really.
All I have is a Centrino laptop armed with the latest wifi components, and a jasjar.
I managed to make a device-to-device connection as someone suggested, and the devices appeared to connect, but I couldnt seem to do anything with them as such.

Try Resco Explorer (www.resco.net) It allows you to map network drives (once you have your device-to-device connection sorted)

Wiz - Off topic but can you share how you got your O2 Exec Blackberry Enabled? I'd like to do the same. Ta - philg

Got resco explorer, gotta say thats a handy lil feature packed app. But to my problem at hand....does anyone have or can anyone give me a run down of how to get a device-to-device networking happenng.
I can get the two devices to connect as such via wifi, both jasjar says connected as does XP, however when I go to map a network drive, in Resco or XP fo rthat matter, I just an a message saying no computer is connected or availbe. This despite the fact that it is right there!!
Any suggestions, tutorial recommendations?
Thanks.

r u using xp pro or home?
what sort of antivirus r u running?
firewall? ms or other
any other security settings imposed?
generally, go to pc, find folder u want to connect to, RMC, properties, sharing, enable with a name you like, apply security with password (nb sharinmg over wifi will allow others to access without security).
goto pda, resco, map drive, type in \\computername\sharename, enter your username to log onto pc and password (assuming these were the same pemissions you applied when setting up)
I had this working using a wifi access point via a local router, but norton screwed it up and been unable to fix....

Yes XP Pro
Default Network Security really, like I said ive never really used them or accessed the features so usually keep em closed.
and running NIS 2005. But yeah look im not a total noob, ie I disabled NIS at one point to see if that was hampering the connections, and even enabled it and enabled full access and that did nothing either.
what you suggested I pretty much did.
however, when ive set up the device to device connection it gives me security options ie WEP WPA etc, done these restrict other networks from using the shared folder?
I ask because there are a fare few wireless networks around me, wouldnt want to give any of them access to my stuff, even if it is only my music and some documents.

If you start your WIFI on your PPC and PC, does the WIFI icon on the PPC create the connection, ie the antennae and two arrows that remain still.
If so, then you have got the connection to the PC, we just then need to get the folders and access to each other. If not, then we cant get any further till we resolve this issue.
RMC My Computer or go to control panel system. Far right Tab allow remote connections, tick the box to allow. This should allow a Terminal Server connection from your PPC to your PC. So find out the IP of your PC, then open TSC and enter the same IP address and see if it connects. If it starts to get create a connection via GPRS/3G cancel it. This will be due to the "My Work" and "Internet" settings which we will have to come back to.
If it you can open a TSC then you have established the WIFI and can create and authenticate a connection, so it means we have a problem with the foler sharing.
So in summary, doing the above will:
1. Estabish that the WIFI connection using WEP is working
2. That you are connecting over the same common network using TSC to connect and control your PC from your PPC
3. THat the problems are folder sharing related
Let me know how you go.

I wont be able to try these suggestions until tomorrow but im pretty confident one of these will work, thanks for taking the time, I will definitely try em tomorrow.
But just for what information I have ATM, yes the wifi icon you described is there, so like I said the PPC is definitely connecting, just when its connected I dont seem to be able to do much.
Will let you know how I go
THanks again

I have resolved the problem that I have been having with connecting to a network share, when I could before and cant now....
The answer was simple, and I cant believe how simple.
The answer was found here, and posted by DUTCH
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21317&highlight=network+wifi+connection+share
"Make sure you have "Enable Netbios over TCP/IP" checked in your TCP/IP Advanced settings."
If your not sure where this is let me know, but it provided and immediate fix for me. ...
Well, actually, I did two things simultaneously, so not sure which actually worked. I also went into the specific connectsion > Network Cards on the PPC, Network Adapter set to work, then Wireless tab, found the specific network opened this and changed this from internet to work.
So the combineation of the IP settings and the change from internet to work allows my ppc to connect to my computers folder shares.

well, i tested it furter.
If i left the work setting on my network, then when I used the internet, it opened and connected a gprs connection to open the web site.
so i changed the network connect back to "the internet", and was able to use the network card to connect to the internet and access the web.
I was also STILL able to access a network share whilst the network connected to "the internet", so the solution for me was
"Make sure you have "Enable Netbios over TCP/IP" checked in your TCP/IP Advanced settings."

Cannot get IP address using Internet Sharing

hey, ive been scooping on here for a while and this is my first post.
ive searched for over an hour and i havent found the answer.
i downloaded internet sharing cab and installed it, it runs fine on my wm6, but when i connect it to my laptop using usb, the laptop cant get the IP address.
it eventually says limited connection on my laptop. any ideas?
TIA
Cliff

I can tell you from experience (i connect this way) that you don't need to install anything on your laptop exept for active sync (i think the latest one is 4.5) after you do that you enable internet sharing in your wing ( start/programs/accessories/internet sharing) after you enable it you connect your wing to your laptop, at that point your laptop should regognize your phone as a network connection. you can now browse the net.
if you're on the 5.99 proxy there is one more step. you have to configure Internet explorer to use the proxy. I don't remember everything off the top of my head but I think it goes like this settings/ connections tab/lan settins/proxy server
from there you just enter the same proxy and port that you did on your wing. you should now be able to surf.

the thing is, my phone is unlocked and im on the cingular network. i have all the settings for it. internet explorer works on my phone.(i get internet on my phone)
when i connect it to my laptop, it detects it like its supposed to, BUT it doesnt get the IP address. if you have anymore info, let me know
thanks
Cliff