Adapter to allow charging of XDA II backpack - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I was wondering if you hardware gurus out there were able to make an adapter that plugged into the port on the XDA II back pack and then accepted the standard XDA II USB charger plug so that the back pack could be charged separate from the XDA II itself.
Anyone?
Ed

What port is on the back pack. Is it juts a two pole jack plug the same as the XDAII Sync Cradle? If so why not use the supply from that?

The port is the female equivalent of the internal bus port positioned below the battery of the XDA II. You can see it when you remove the battery cover on the rear of the unit.
It is very different that the USB port at the base of the XDA II.
Ed

Ah sorry, I had imagined that it would also have a seperate charge jack on the rear in the same way that the dual PCMCIA backpacks jackets for the iPAQ's used to have to allow charging of their internal battery.

Yeah I wish! I used to have one of those iPAQ jacket/sleeves too and it was good to be able to charge them separate from the iPAQ.
So that's the main downside I have with the backpack. I love the unit, the presentation software works REALLY well, but I have to have it fitted to my XDA II to charge it.
I guess if I had a wrecked XDA II I could use the internal socket and make up and adpater. Perhaps in the next model?
Ed

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IT CHARGES...IT CHARGES!

I have two cradles one USB and one SERIAL from my original XDA.
I have posted them on ebay 2x and no bids at all...nothing. OK they are
not going to sell.
I want a cradle for work. After reading confirmation that the connectors
are the same...Hmm...my Imate fits but it is snug inside due to a plastic
piece...can't have my baby scratched. So I take apart the USB one very
carefully. File down the plastic inside piece and put it back
together...NO PROBLEMS. The Imate drops right in. YEA I have a USB cradle.
WOW.
I got to test it out...plug it into the usb port, drop the imate in and it
starts to sync...YEA.
Here is the interesting part. NO AC Adapter connected and the thing is
charging. Umm charging. This is the original XDA cradle. My old XDA
never use to charge without AC plugged in. This might be a clue to the
sync/charge cables...looks like the connection is in the imate itself not in the new XDA II cradle.

My XDA won't charge

There have been quite a few postings here on people having problems charging their XDA with thrird-party chargers originally built for the XDA I.
Add me to the list I"m on the road and can't get the damned thing charged using the charger.
However the good news is, that the problem is not the cable (or the connector for that matter). Right now I'm in the internet cafe using the USB-connection to charge the XDA II at least a little. THis is working!!
My third-partz charger is a power supply with a USB-socket, that connects with this charge-sync cable. But, its not working! This leaves two possibilities:
1) The power supply is providing a lower voltage than the XDA II requires (something less than 5.0 Volts, mazbe 4.7?). I can't check this here, but if someone with a similar problem could measure his charger voltage using a multimeter, we might find an answer. Pins to check on this site under "connector".
If this is the cause, it won't help me here, but at least we'll have the problem solved.
2) I noticed in my charger, that the USB/pins 2 and 3 ( Data-H and Data-L) are unconnected. Potentially the XDA II has an issue if these lines are floating whilst power is applied to the USB-bus. I don't know if we can check this easilz,bu if someone has an Idea?
Greetings from the Maldives 8) Sun, warm, great, but no power for my XDA!!!
mobile charger
I'm using a nokia charger, and the supplied adapter and it seesm to work fine.
MDA/XDA II Pinout - Charge Issue Resolved!!
Being back from my vacation, I immediately got into figuring out why my third party charger was not working, though the MDA II would charge through the same cable when connected to the USB-bus of a PC.
It was a wiring error in the USB-cable after all!
To figure it out I took that little adapter that comes with the original charger apart. Though the MDA/XDA II has the same pinout as the MDA/XDA I, there is a major difference in that not all GND pins are connected together inside. In order to charge, at least one of Pins 16,17,18 must be connected to ground. The grounds on pins 2 and 5 are not connected to the internal charge circuit. TO make things worse, the MDA/XDA detects an external charge power source when pin 2 is GND and Pin 22 is +5V - so the light goes on, but it still does not charge.
On my cable the USB-shield was connected to pin 18. When connected to a PC, the shield was connected at that end to Ground and all went well. On my charger supply, the shield was not connected, so it couldn't charge.
I just rewired the connector and see there it works!
So, if you have the same problem, and are handy at the soldering iron, there is a solution! For those making/selling those USB charge/sync cables, get it right the first time!
Is it safe using a Nokia Charger ?
My Nokia travel charger is rated at 6.2 V, not 5.0 as the one supplied with the XDA II
Regards
Michael
Yeah! But watch out anyway because the volatge is not the only thing to check before charging a device. The right voltage but a bad amperage can cause lots of damage...
Using the Brando USB charger woukd actually DRAIN the battery when the bar reaches yellow....
Using a Nokia charger
The Nokia is rated at 6.2 V 720 mA, the original charger is 5V 1 A.
If I understand my physics right, the XDA may draw more current that the charger can handle, so AMP vise, the danger is on the charger ?
Not that I belive that the XDA would really pull 1A, but you never know.
It would be really nice to have just one charger in the travel bag..
Regards
Michael
Suggest a USB Charger and source.
Can anyone suggest a usb charger cable and source in the UK for an O2 XDA 2 as the one that I have currently does not charge at all despite the light saying so.
xda ll charger
hi
you may get a car charger from http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108736
i have had one on order for 2 weeks now may get it in the end :lol:
Re: Suggest a USB Charger and source.
bloodwynd said:
Can anyone suggest a usb charger cable and source in the UK for an O2 XDA 2 as the one that I have currently does not charge at all despite the light saying so.
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This was the effect I had. Its a mistake in the wiring on your cable.
Thanks,
What I am really after is to find out if there is a place to find a USB cable that will work right out of the box/dodgy package that it comes in. I am not good with soldering irons or electronics and would like to buy one that is wired up correctly to charge my XDA II.
Cheers.

Buying direct from dell what's included ?

I'm thinking of buying a streak direct from dell to use with my 3uk sim
Looking on their website exactly what's included with the basic model as usb cable and chArger show as separate purchases
I never attach my desire to my pc so my question is does it come with a normal charger surely it does ?
Also notice that 2.1 isn't for direct purchases only o2 customers any idea when it will be released presume its delayed cos the 2.1 has screwed up most o2 customers phones - I'm hoping dell are delaying for 2.2 release
Just another question has anyone found a holder which u can clip to ur belt to carry the phone ? And has anyone bought the car kit does it rattle or is it sturdy ?
Ta
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Anyone ? Someone must have bought direct from dell
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It comes in a neat little box; including earphones, USB cable, and a charger!
To update to 2.1 just have a look at the appropriate thread in the forums...
Success!
i bought it directly from DELL UK. IN the box were
Dell Streak
Wall Adapter with USB on 1 end.
USB Cable to Connect the Streak to PC or Wall Charger
Headset
Sleeve to hold the streak in. Nylon i believe
As for the Case question PDAIr has got some cases that you can use or you can search ebay for easycase or something. Look in the accessories forum there are links for it.
^^ everything above but don't forget either a 16GB Micro SD card or pay extra for a 32GB Micro SD card.
I would recommend easecase off ebay where you can get a custom made leather case for £25 (though you'll have to wait about a month for it) but you can choose the orientation, have exposed or hidden magnets or buttons to secure the lap, whether it has a belt clip, pocket or a belt loop, the colour and type of leather on the outside and the colour and fabric on the inside, have your name or whatever embosed on to the front of the case and if need be, to increase the size of the case for a looser fit.
There are plenty of universal phone holders that will hold the phone one way or another (I'm currently using a clingo sticky pad holder thing) but I've read that the official car holder wobbles a lot due to the flexible arm and the weight of the phone. Tho it's worth noting that for a 12v to USB adaptor, the adaptor needs to output 1000mA and have the 2 middle pins shorted in order for the adaptor to charge the Dell. Some will already have the 2 pins shorted but a lot of them don't.
Excellent thanks just how stable is 1.6 cos I know on my hero it was horrible Bluetooth would never work properly ....
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I find connecting to audio devices is fine (mine auto connects to my car stereo whenever I get in and start the car) but I have had a couple of issues transfering items via bluetooth to other devices. Android doesn't seem to allow file transfer by default but you can download bluetooth file transfer off the market for free and it works most of the time, but sometimes it just doesn't want to play. Also, transfering items eats up battery big time!

Tighter USB cable

As I find the USB cable provided with the charger to be too short, I ordered a cheap 2m cable. This cable is quite tight if I want to push it into the USB port of my Nex4, so I was wondering if it is safe to use; are micro USB ports very vulnerable?
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Hi
Remcotjuuh said:
As I find the USB cable provided with the charger to be too short, I ordered a cheap 2m cable. This cable is quite tight if I want to push it into the USB port of my Nex4, so I was wondering if it is safe to use; are micro USB ports very vulnerable?
Sent from my beloved Nexus 4
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Micro USB is designed in such a way the plug wears out quicker than the socket (as it is easier/cheaper to replace the cable), so a well used plug may be loser than a newer one. Can you remember how tight the original was when you first used it?
If this new cable is tighter than the original I would be inclined to say do not use it. A cheap one is probably not made to the correct specifications and if this is the case it could damage the socket in the phone.
Buy cheap buy twice.
Regards
Phil
Thanks for your reply. It certainly is tighter than the original was at first, so I guess I won't use it for my phone then. It was only three bucks and most things I bought from China wholesales/warehouses were actually quite good concerning quality, so I don't mind it.
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Stock charging cable only giving out 300-420 amp

Does anyone have the same problem? I notice that it only has 4 pins, dunno if its supposed to have 4 or 5, and to make my situation even worse 2 of them seem to be faulty, they are almost flat.
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It's sadly thinking that the problem is the phone (This doesn't happen with my other phone), I was to buy a new cable because the same issue (And its "solved").
The main problem seems to be a strict samsung charging chip mounted on the s4, that only with some cables charges at full speed (1900ma) with others thats works perfectly with other phones (Charging at full speed) doesn't charge at maximum currency (300-500ma) (I was testing with a Galaxy S4 i9500, a S5 mini g800y and a Galaxy Grand i9080).
No, I have replaced the charging thingy. Blah blah, because I broke the port once. Also have tried different cables and they all give 1900 amp. I just pulled the 2 pins with a needle and its giving 600-1080 amps.
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The USB spec calls for four lines, though the mini and micro connectors have five. In most cases that fifth pin will not be used, although Garmin bridges pins 4 and 5 in their DC adapters to let the GPS know it's connected to a charger and not a PC. Based upon your description, it's unlikely the cable is the problem. I would borrow a friend's charger and connect your cable and phone to it. If it charges faster then you know your charger went south. Otherwise the issue is somewhere within the S4.
I have tried every cable and every adaptor in this planet, they all work well, I just wanted to use the original charger bcoz I don't want some cheap Chinese cable (I'm Chinese BTW) catching on fire and burning my house down....
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One thing to keep in mind, that I just though about, is that the S4 charger uses all four pins for charging. You want to measure all four pins and add the results. It should be close to the rated output of the charger.
In your case though, if the other adapters worked and yours didn't, the adapter is faulty.

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