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Unaccessible programs on SDCARD after card withdrawal

Hello everybody, Seasons Greetings to all
i'm facing trouble with the way the SDcard works on my Qtek2020: I can install all programs i want on the card and everything works flawlessly until i withdraw the card from the device for any reason, no programs launched at the time of the withdrawal; When i put the card back in the device, the SDCARD seems to be empty for the device and despite that i can see that the contents is still present and displayed under fileexplorer, all shortcuts to the on the storagecard stored programs have vanished, and are not restored even after few minutes wait or a softreset.
Is this a known limitation of the device? Is there a way to refresh these shortcuts (without having to copy new ones by hand)? Is this a known limitation of either Windowsmobile2033 Phoneedition or WindowsMobile2003? I add that this doesn't happen on my E200 Smartphone(Qtek8080) with the same cards. When i put the card back all shortcuts that were still available but grayed out after having removed the card are displayed and working? I hope this helps!!
Is there a workaround for this?
Awaitng your inputs, i remain, Brgds, ARNAUD

how about Qtek soft reset ...
with SD card inside - have you tried this ?? it might help ... at least it helped me twice on similar occassion
regards, monika

if that does not help ...
maybe you might consider using some SD media verification tool or even formatting for good orders's sake ...
but soft reset hopefully is to solve your problem
regards,
monika

Very strange,can't delete or add any file on my xda II

Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??

I might add that i can delete the files on my computer through activesync with no problem. I have O2 German upgraded to the T-mobile 1.60 english.. so any clues whatsoever???

What software do you have installed, I would be inclined to do a backup then hard reset, then when reinstalling software check if the problem occurs after each installation of your programs, this might pin it down to a program that is locking all files for some reason.

It seems that it happens randomly, cuz when I made a backup I didn't had this problem.Then when the problem occured I restored but the problem remailned. I have a lot of programs installed I wans doubting Microsoft voice command but the problem remailned after uninstalling it other programs(metro,tomtom 2,finger clix,fullscreen keyboard,sms writer,xcpuscalar,pocketMVP) any of these programs is known to force this problem. Thanks

I don't know that any of these programs by themselves are known to cause this behavior - but sometimes combinations of programs, glitches during installations, or any of a dozen other things can cause abnormal behavior.
I would agree with cruisin-thru . . . the only way to be sure if it is one of the programs you have installed, and if so which, is to do a hard-reset and install the programs one-at-a-time, giving some time for testing between installations.

Same problem here
Yep - I have had and currently have the same problem.
Uninstalling programs does not help, only a hard reset and then reinstall one by one testing as you go.
I have done a hard reset in the past, but never built it back up to the same spec, so have not pin pointed an app (if it is an app)
It may help if you compare to my install list ??
Let me know how it goes,
Ian
Adode Acrobat Reader 1.0
Astraware Bejeweled
Astraware Bookworm
Belkin WPDAK
Boma Software Reversi Game for Po...
Fonix UK Roger (2 MB)
Fonix VoiceDial 1.2 EN
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
Microsoft Money for Pocket PC
MTUX RingToneX
Pocket Bluetooth Tools
PocketMac_CEWindows.Net RegKin...
Realnetworks RealOne Player
SanDisk Wi-Fi SD Card for WinCE 4.00
SBSH.net Birth2Day
SBSH.net Calendar Plus Proffessional
SBSH.net iLauncher
ScaryBear Software Check Notificati...
Smartphone4u Extended ROM Switc...
I have also had, but removed now:
mov Software imov Messenger(tm)

>Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the >small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then >nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem >before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard >reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??[/quote]
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
I've the same strange randomic problem, the workaround is:
- Remove SD Card
- Softreset
- Reinsert SD Card
At least, you don't need hard reset anymore

I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.

Maddoc ur the man, it really resolved the problem and u made me feel small not having thinked of that. For the rocord the only program in common with InaF is Pocket Bluetooth Tools, don't know if it has something to do with it. Thanks guys

Well what do you know!!!
Well Maddoc, this just goes to prove you learn something new every day!
o I tried to delete a file in File Explorer - it hung
o I killed off File Explorer from the running program list - probably not required, but just to prove the file had really been deleted
o I ejected my SD card - a very cheaply made one
o Soft Reset
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
o Inserted the SD card
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
I'm very happy, and the confusion as to why it is acting like this will soon disappear.
Thanks again!

That's the good part, the bad one is that you have to pull out the SD card every single time you do a soft reset, but I'm satisfied with that until someone knows what the heck is going on.

BRosenow said:
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.
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Just to add some extra informations...
In my office there are 2 qtek2020 users, me and another friend.
The only differences between devices is that i use SD cards regulary and only my device is having this kind of problem, the frequency of this problem arises when i use TOMTOM navigator and the maps are stored in SD card.
The results are the same with my 256mb sandisk and 128mb pretec.
Seems that at some point the QTEK2020( and i think also mda/imate etc... ) is unable to "receive" file change notifications( or something like that ) and the results are:
1) You can't delete file with "file explorer"( hourglass loop )
2) If you write a new note and save it, you can't even see the note on the list !!!
3) If you install another application, the program group/start menu is not updated !!!
BTW i've just reformatted my 256mb sd card with flashformat two days ago, no problem for the moment but i'm not using navigator now...
Thanks to all

I stand corrected! Partially anyway . . . :wink:
Since I do not use TomTom Navigator (or any other GPS software for that matter) it is conceivable that the software is corrupting the FAT on the SD card.
Have you tried using StorageTools (or other similar software) to scan (automatically fix all errors) and defrag the SD card to see if it has any effect?

Well I formatted the SD card(pdc 256) with storage tool and fixed all errors(tried fat32&16) but the problem still there. The thing remains to try is to uninstall TomTom2 along with the Gps software to see if it solves. :?:

A key point here is that even uninstalling might not solve the problem. It is a sad fact that many times when you uninstall a program, both on PCs and PPCs, it is not uncommon for registry entries to be left behind, unnecessary .dlls and other files to remain, and some files that were overwritten by newer (or older) versions to remain as well. This is why several of us have stressed hard-resetting the device . . . it is the ONLY way to be sure you are starting from a known platform.

SD problems
I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.

Well finally the problem resolved. I should say the hint that mrg2003 gave is really the solution,in other words you should not format the card from the device but rather from the card reader(fat and not fat32) and bingo no more blocks. I should say this forum is great. Cheerz :lol:

Re: SD problems
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I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.
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I confirm, i formatted my sd with flash format... No problems at all now !!!!

I really don't understand this perfectly right! I have an SD Card and the same problem as all of you state.
What do I have to do? I use the Qtek 2020...
Thanx in advance.

Still have a problem and can someone help me with it!
I formatted the sd card with a lot of tools through the Qtek, like storagetools and flash format.
Afterwards I tried to format through windows format tool!!
But none of them worked and still have the problem of the hourglass..... Can somebody help me? I have a Sandisk 256 MB Ultra II.
Thanx in advance

Lost Program Files

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has had a similar incident with their Wizard -
I've got a MDA Vario, i haven't upgraded the ROM or over clocked it at all, i've just installed a few games and a few applications most recently (Agile).
But over the last couple of days the phone has started reseting itself and today i seem to have loast a load of applications i had installed onto the phone.
Having checkeed the phones storage card, it would seem that the "Program Files" directory on the card has dissapeared!
Does anyone know whats going on and how best to stop it?
Thanks for your help.

Can help you on a solution. but I kinda had the same experience. You may want to specify that the lost programs files are in SD only.
Anyway, previously, just after I've got my Charmer phone, I kinda install everything into it and it causes problems. Some programs causes problems and it hanged my phone and I have to soft reset it. I keep on trying and reseting my phone
and later, I've noticed that files in my SD files are lost. I experience twice, once I lost everything in the SD and later I only lost the Program Files dir of the SD.
So, what I think is.. before you soft reset, remove your SD card. That's what I can do.

Problem may be being caused by Agile Messenger
Sounds like a solution.
But i figured something i had installed recently had started causing the phone to reset, since having this problem i have uninstalled Agile and the phone seems to have stopped reseting randomly.
Therefore, is there a program similar to Agile out there that doesn't screw up your phone? If so, what?

i had a similar problem before. What happened with me is several folders disappeared, whether i tried to view them on the devices explorer/resco explorer or even in a memory card reader, but the memory for those files missing was still being used. So i had to use a recovery program called GetDataBack and plugged the card into a memory card reader and it scanned it and recovered everything.
heres my original post on what happened with me.
hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45189&highlight=

Thanks for that, i'll try and get this recovery software and hope i haven't lost too much!
Did you ever find out why you lost the files?

Keeps rebooting with new microsd card

Hi , i just got a new sandisk 4gb microsd. The card works fine except when i softreset, it wont go to the homescreen, it will keep rebooting without an end!
Ive been reading on the internet and for some people the solution was to renaming the file omap850_sdhc.dll to omap850_sdhc.dll.old in the windows folder.
But on my htc p4350 with the official vodafone wm6 , that file seems to be part of the rom and cant be edited ! Ive tried totalcommander, resco explorer.
Does anyone have a solution for this or is familiar with this problem??
Thanks

What happens if you take the card out, reboot, then put it back in?

BadBoyNDSU said:
What happens if you take the card out, reboot, then put it back in?
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That works , but thats just not what i want.

Hi Phusio,
I have the same problem. Have you found a solution yet?

the windows sdhc card driver probably messed up...that or you installed something on the card that should've been installed on the phone..and now your windows is confused...hehe
there are several solutions... i don't know any that work on all devices
it's been discussed many times... try searching for boot-loop or stuck at splash screen... something along those lines.
the easiest solution is to hard reset...
if you're card is clean that's even better cuz then you can organize it very nice and neat..

Doing a hard reset is not an option for me.
Several other threads have discussed the option of deleting/renaming the omap650sdhc.dll followed by a soft-reset. But this dll is in rom and cannot be deleted. Tried Total Commander and Resco Explorer, but no chance.
Guess I will wait until I'm fed up enough to do a hard-reset.

i had that same problem with my new MicroSD 4GB card.
All i did was:
Turn the phone off and take battery + SIM out.
Turn in your MicroSD card and start it up.
When it's fully booted take the battery out without turning the phone off and put the sim back in.
Then turn it back on and hope for the best.
It worked for me.

SD card is full or missing when in "Documents" tab

When I'm on "Documents" tab it says - "SD card is full or missing"
Any way around it ?

Come on ... nobody has this problem ?!!!

I had that problem too and I wish I could give you a way to fix it, but I had to perform a hard reset after WMWifiRouter screwed my WiFi up. Your post reminded me about the problem with the documents tab and I just checked it... turns out the hard reset also fixed this issue for me.
I'll let you know if it comes back and we can work out a fix that doesn't involve resetting everything on the phone.

I actually performed hard reset (because of a different issue). Unfortunately it did not fix Documents tab problem

are you using a ram disk at all? that is known to mess with the docs tab.

samsamuel said:
are you using a ram disk at all? that is known to mess with the docs tab.
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I do not even know what is RAM disk on HD2. No, I do not use special RAM disk apps and my ROM is US T-Mobile HD2 stock ROM

bogdatov said:
I do not even know what is RAM disk on HD2. No, I do not use special RAM disk apps and my ROM is US T-Mobile HD2 stock ROM
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hmm no clue then, sorry. Think if it were me i'd try copy off all the files and folders onto the pc then format the sd card and copy everything back, just to see.

Did you remove the original SD card that came with it? Or, replace it with another one? I know it's in the manual that once you do it, the SD card may not work anymore, or something like that. Maybe that's the cause, I'm just guessing since I don't have this kind of problem.

microSD card came with T-Mobile Hd2 (US version) already inserted. Did not touch it

I have this problem too with my Touch HD.
I can't read my documents. It says: "SD card is full or missing".
Any help. Please...

I've fixed this problem
I had this problem too
I've fixed this problem thus
I backed up all info the storage Card and I made a complete format the storage card complete under windows, after I copied all info into storage card again, and this operation fixed this problem
Dmonium
Excuse :me if my english is so bad

dmonium said:
I backed up all info the storage Card and I made a complete format the storage card complete under windows, after I copied all info into storage card again, and this operation fixed this problem
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Did exactly same thing but it did not fix it for me

Format worked for me, although I'm pretty sure the SD card was fine, and was gonna compare the pre-format files to post-format and see if I accidentally deleted anything that would cause this. Was in a hurry though, and never ended up comparing.
Formatted(full) SD card on PC, then put in phone and formatted there to get the stock files back on. Then copied everything else over (TF movies, and my downloads, etc..). Worked fine after that.

Hi
I had the same problem and quicikly solved this issue:
Go to: \Carte de stockage or Storage card\Application Data\HTC\databases\DocExp
And delete 2 files: postlist.DB & value.DB
It worked for me, hope the same for you

Installing a network plugin caused the issue on mine, when I unistalled it worked again

mdean11 said:
Installing a network plugin caused the issue on mine, when I unistalled it worked again
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mdean, do you happen to have the name or the cab handy, so I can take a peek at it for a possible connection to the cause? Thanks!

I tried 3 different ones, all caused the problem - generic network plugin, htc network plugin, and schnaps network plugin

SD Card is full or Missing - SOLVED
1. Delete the folder - Storage card\Application Data
2. Tab again the document tab - wait re-loading until finish searching all documents
3. Successful!

thanks dude i was having the same problem, when i enabled shared network folder in touch tool, it stop working but i went back and disabled it and now working again.

Glad you all figured it out... I had this problem 3 weeks ago and immediately after enabling and setting up the network plugin with Touch Tools 1.4. Luckily, I didn't have to look for the cause since the last thing I did was install & use the network plugin!
So, for future reference.........
Also, your facebook pictures in htc album's facebook tab will stop showing up if you manually assign a "CacheSize" value other than 0 to HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS.
Be advised!