Unaccessible programs on SDCARD after card withdrawal - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hello everybody, Seasons Greetings to all
i'm facing trouble with the way the SDcard works on my Qtek2020: I can install all programs i want on the card and everything works flawlessly until i withdraw the card from the device for any reason, no programs launched at the time of the withdrawal; When i put the card back in the device, the SDCARD seems to be empty for the device and despite that i can see that the contents is still present and displayed under fileexplorer, all shortcuts to the on the storagecard stored programs have vanished, and are not restored even after few minutes wait or a softreset.
Is this a known limitation of the device? Is there a way to refresh these shortcuts (without having to copy new ones by hand)? Is this a known limitation of either Windowsmobile2033 Phoneedition or WindowsMobile2003? I add that this doesn't happen on my E200 Smartphone(Qtek8080) with the same cards. When i put the card back all shortcuts that were still available but grayed out after having removed the card are displayed and working? I hope this helps!!
Is there a workaround for this?
Awaitng your inputs, i remain, Brgds, ARNAUD

how about Qtek soft reset ...
with SD card inside - have you tried this ?? it might help ... at least it helped me twice on similar occassion
regards, monika

if that does not help ...
maybe you might consider using some SD media verification tool or even formatting for good orders's sake ...
but soft reset hopefully is to solve your problem
regards,
monika

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Very strange,can't delete or add any file on my xda II

Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??
I might add that i can delete the files on my computer through activesync with no problem. I have O2 German upgraded to the T-mobile 1.60 english.. so any clues whatsoever???
What software do you have installed, I would be inclined to do a backup then hard reset, then when reinstalling software check if the problem occurs after each installation of your programs, this might pin it down to a program that is locking all files for some reason.
It seems that it happens randomly, cuz when I made a backup I didn't had this problem.Then when the problem occured I restored but the problem remailned. I have a lot of programs installed I wans doubting Microsoft voice command but the problem remailned after uninstalling it other programs(metro,tomtom 2,finger clix,fullscreen keyboard,sms writer,xcpuscalar,pocketMVP) any of these programs is known to force this problem. Thanks
I don't know that any of these programs by themselves are known to cause this behavior - but sometimes combinations of programs, glitches during installations, or any of a dozen other things can cause abnormal behavior.
I would agree with cruisin-thru . . . the only way to be sure if it is one of the programs you have installed, and if so which, is to do a hard-reset and install the programs one-at-a-time, giving some time for testing between installations.
Same problem here
Yep - I have had and currently have the same problem.
Uninstalling programs does not help, only a hard reset and then reinstall one by one testing as you go.
I have done a hard reset in the past, but never built it back up to the same spec, so have not pin pointed an app (if it is an app)
It may help if you compare to my install list ??
Let me know how it goes,
Ian
Adode Acrobat Reader 1.0
Astraware Bejeweled
Astraware Bookworm
Belkin WPDAK
Boma Software Reversi Game for Po...
Fonix UK Roger (2 MB)
Fonix VoiceDial 1.2 EN
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
Microsoft Money for Pocket PC
MTUX RingToneX
Pocket Bluetooth Tools
PocketMac_CEWindows.Net RegKin...
Realnetworks RealOne Player
SanDisk Wi-Fi SD Card for WinCE 4.00
SBSH.net Birth2Day
SBSH.net Calendar Plus Proffessional
SBSH.net iLauncher
ScaryBear Software Check Notificati...
Smartphone4u Extended ROM Switc...
I have also had, but removed now:
mov Software imov Messenger(tm)
>Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the >small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then >nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem >before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard >reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??[/quote]
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
I've the same strange randomic problem, the workaround is:
- Remove SD Card
- Softreset
- Reinsert SD Card
At least, you don't need hard reset anymore
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.
Maddoc ur the man, it really resolved the problem and u made me feel small not having thinked of that. For the rocord the only program in common with InaF is Pocket Bluetooth Tools, don't know if it has something to do with it. Thanks guys
Well what do you know!!!
Well Maddoc, this just goes to prove you learn something new every day!
o I tried to delete a file in File Explorer - it hung
o I killed off File Explorer from the running program list - probably not required, but just to prove the file had really been deleted
o I ejected my SD card - a very cheaply made one
o Soft Reset
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
o Inserted the SD card
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
I'm very happy, and the confusion as to why it is acting like this will soon disappear.
Thanks again!
That's the good part, the bad one is that you have to pull out the SD card every single time you do a soft reset, but I'm satisfied with that until someone knows what the heck is going on.
BRosenow said:
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.
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Just to add some extra informations...
In my office there are 2 qtek2020 users, me and another friend.
The only differences between devices is that i use SD cards regulary and only my device is having this kind of problem, the frequency of this problem arises when i use TOMTOM navigator and the maps are stored in SD card.
The results are the same with my 256mb sandisk and 128mb pretec.
Seems that at some point the QTEK2020( and i think also mda/imate etc... ) is unable to "receive" file change notifications( or something like that ) and the results are:
1) You can't delete file with "file explorer"( hourglass loop )
2) If you write a new note and save it, you can't even see the note on the list !!!
3) If you install another application, the program group/start menu is not updated !!!
BTW i've just reformatted my 256mb sd card with flashformat two days ago, no problem for the moment but i'm not using navigator now...
Thanks to all
I stand corrected! Partially anyway . . . :wink:
Since I do not use TomTom Navigator (or any other GPS software for that matter) it is conceivable that the software is corrupting the FAT on the SD card.
Have you tried using StorageTools (or other similar software) to scan (automatically fix all errors) and defrag the SD card to see if it has any effect?
Well I formatted the SD card(pdc 256) with storage tool and fixed all errors(tried fat32&16) but the problem still there. The thing remains to try is to uninstall TomTom2 along with the Gps software to see if it solves. :?:
A key point here is that even uninstalling might not solve the problem. It is a sad fact that many times when you uninstall a program, both on PCs and PPCs, it is not uncommon for registry entries to be left behind, unnecessary .dlls and other files to remain, and some files that were overwritten by newer (or older) versions to remain as well. This is why several of us have stressed hard-resetting the device . . . it is the ONLY way to be sure you are starting from a known platform.
SD problems
I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.
Well finally the problem resolved. I should say the hint that mrg2003 gave is really the solution,in other words you should not format the card from the device but rather from the card reader(fat and not fat32) and bingo no more blocks. I should say this forum is great. Cheerz :lol:
Re: SD problems
mrg2003 said:
I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.
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I confirm, i formatted my sd with flash format... No problems at all now !!!!
I really don't understand this perfectly right! I have an SD Card and the same problem as all of you state.
What do I have to do? I use the Qtek 2020...
Thanx in advance.
Still have a problem and can someone help me with it!
I formatted the sd card with a lot of tools through the Qtek, like storagetools and flash format.
Afterwards I tried to format through windows format tool!!
But none of them worked and still have the problem of the hourglass..... Can somebody help me? I have a Sandisk 256 MB Ultra II.
Thanx in advance

Storage card Problem

Hello friends
I have a Gene in which i am using a 2 GB mini-MMC card.
Once in 2-3 days my gene loses the data on the card and shows some strange charecters with 1 GB or 2 GB size.Usually multiple folders with such strange characters are found.When i soft reset the card is shown normally.But after 2-3 months even softreset does not work.Then i have to format my card and start from scratch.3 times i have done hard reset but without any effect.I am not using any cracked software.I removed all third party software but still the same thing continues.
So i need your advice as
1. I cannot send the phone to repair as the nearest service center is 1000 km away.
2. I am not able to try another card as my mini-mmc is stuck inside the Gene( Damn the person who conceived this idea of putting the storage card space in an inaccesible position )
Please my dear friends. Any tidbit of idea can save my phone
partition
I read somewhere that partitioning will resolve the issue but I just couldn't get to do it. There are guides everywhere to tweak the registry to fool the OS into thinking that your storage card is not a removable drive and then partitioning it, but I just can't get to do it. It shows me a drive with only 52mb space!?!
Anyways, this is a gene issue and we need to get it resolved. If anyone out there knows anything about it, please help.
Card partition
Now you can create partition on your storage card by your device
Check PPClink software card studio
even with trial version you can do all these things
Atlast found the cause of card corruption
Brothers
After successfully experimenting with somany options atlast i have found the answer for the card corruption.
IT WAS DUE TO MERRIAM WEBSTER( SLOVOED ) DICTIONARY WHICH I HAVE USED FREQUENTLY-BOTH UNABRIDGED&MEDICAL.
I have removed them 1 week back and nomore card corruption since then.
So there is an issue with slovoed and WM5 ppc.
If anyother members having similar problem try this option.

Memory card disappeared!

Heya! I asked this is in the respective ROM-thread aswell, but noone seems to answer =p
I just installed a new ROM on my device (link can be found at bottom if needed). However, since the install, my file explorer no longer finds my memory card. It has on all previous roms, so I'm not sure what's wrong. Any ideas?
showthread.php?t=564028
(stupid thing didn't allow me to post the entire link..)
I would take out the sdcard softreset when it started again I would reinsert the sdcard
and see
My X2 has this huge problem too. Its very iritating, because SD card disappeare in hour from inserting to X2. Sometimes it solves when I remove and insert card again but usually I must soft reset. Is there exist any solution to fix this?
alesmatusek said:
My X2 has this huge problem too. Its very iritating, because SD card disappeare in hour from inserting to X2. Sometimes it solves when I remove and insert card again but usually I must soft reset. Is there exist any solution to fix this?
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i had the same problem, i dont know if it has something to do with it but i think that disabling the "energy save" (or something like that) helped, now i see the card always, however:
I have an autorun app (Garmin), usually when you insert the memory card it asks to be executed...
Now i get that execution request like 3 or 4 times by day, meaning the card gets disconnected somehow..
I´ll try this, but where can I find energy save?
Em I only one who have this problem? There must be a fix. However the X2 is unusable...
happens to me to
X2 mem card that came with the phone (original rom)
one time its there next its not (may come back but most times i need to reinsert it or reboot my x2)
Hi guys,Had the same sd card problem with my x2 before,from a week it is visible all the time,first I start with removing the card and putting it back again,no results,than I formatted it with a card reader(be careful here should be formatted fat32) than it was stable for a while,than it started again,I don't know how I managed to fix it but I installed some program called SKKV.Software.SKTools.v4.1.25.4 and formatted the card from the menu there than put all my contents back again from my pc through active sync and now more than a week it is there working every time I try to enter it,hope that I've help wish u luck

SD card is full or missing when in "Documents" tab

When I'm on "Documents" tab it says - "SD card is full or missing"
Any way around it ?
Come on ... nobody has this problem ?!!!
I had that problem too and I wish I could give you a way to fix it, but I had to perform a hard reset after WMWifiRouter screwed my WiFi up. Your post reminded me about the problem with the documents tab and I just checked it... turns out the hard reset also fixed this issue for me.
I'll let you know if it comes back and we can work out a fix that doesn't involve resetting everything on the phone.
I actually performed hard reset (because of a different issue). Unfortunately it did not fix Documents tab problem
are you using a ram disk at all? that is known to mess with the docs tab.
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are you using a ram disk at all? that is known to mess with the docs tab.
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I do not even know what is RAM disk on HD2. No, I do not use special RAM disk apps and my ROM is US T-Mobile HD2 stock ROM
bogdatov said:
I do not even know what is RAM disk on HD2. No, I do not use special RAM disk apps and my ROM is US T-Mobile HD2 stock ROM
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hmm no clue then, sorry. Think if it were me i'd try copy off all the files and folders onto the pc then format the sd card and copy everything back, just to see.
Did you remove the original SD card that came with it? Or, replace it with another one? I know it's in the manual that once you do it, the SD card may not work anymore, or something like that. Maybe that's the cause, I'm just guessing since I don't have this kind of problem.
microSD card came with T-Mobile Hd2 (US version) already inserted. Did not touch it
I have this problem too with my Touch HD.
I can't read my documents. It says: "SD card is full or missing".
Any help. Please...
I've fixed this problem
I had this problem too
I've fixed this problem thus
I backed up all info the storage Card and I made a complete format the storage card complete under windows, after I copied all info into storage card again, and this operation fixed this problem
Dmonium
Excuse :me if my english is so bad
dmonium said:
I backed up all info the storage Card and I made a complete format the storage card complete under windows, after I copied all info into storage card again, and this operation fixed this problem
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Did exactly same thing but it did not fix it for me
Format worked for me, although I'm pretty sure the SD card was fine, and was gonna compare the pre-format files to post-format and see if I accidentally deleted anything that would cause this. Was in a hurry though, and never ended up comparing.
Formatted(full) SD card on PC, then put in phone and formatted there to get the stock files back on. Then copied everything else over (TF movies, and my downloads, etc..). Worked fine after that.
Hi
I had the same problem and quicikly solved this issue:
Go to: \Carte de stockage or Storage card\Application Data\HTC\databases\DocExp
And delete 2 files: postlist.DB & value.DB
It worked for me, hope the same for you
Installing a network plugin caused the issue on mine, when I unistalled it worked again
mdean11 said:
Installing a network plugin caused the issue on mine, when I unistalled it worked again
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mdean, do you happen to have the name or the cab handy, so I can take a peek at it for a possible connection to the cause? Thanks!
I tried 3 different ones, all caused the problem - generic network plugin, htc network plugin, and schnaps network plugin
SD Card is full or Missing - SOLVED
1. Delete the folder - Storage card\Application Data
2. Tab again the document tab - wait re-loading until finish searching all documents
3. Successful!
thanks dude i was having the same problem, when i enabled shared network folder in touch tool, it stop working but i went back and disabled it and now working again.
Glad you all figured it out... I had this problem 3 weeks ago and immediately after enabling and setting up the network plugin with Touch Tools 1.4. Luckily, I didn't have to look for the cause since the last thing I did was install & use the network plugin!
So, for future reference.........
Also, your facebook pictures in htc album's facebook tab will stop showing up if you manually assign a "CacheSize" value other than 0 to HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS.
Be advised!

A few apps think SD card missing, full, and/or empty.

Recently found the "Recent Documents" showing nothing but black screen with "SD card is full or missing". Searched, and found just a few threads with a few fixes that didn't work. Lived with it, as I don't really use it. Today, I noticed "Settings>SD card and phone storage" shows 0.00 MB for Total, used, and Free SD card memory, when it's actually not quite half full right now (16g TMOUS version).
Testing just now, the camera is set to SD card for storage, but still puts the pics in \App. Data\HTC\HTC Album.
The SD card still works fine, everything is there, and other apps can use it fine. Resco properly shows total/used/free sizing. All apps on the card also work fine. 1st WinMo phone, so still learning things, and not entirely sure whats Sense and what isn't, but so far I think it's sense related only?
I did delete a bunch of sizable image cache files assuming they'd be recreated, which they did for everything I've checked that's not on the sd card.
No ideas?
hi, i have exactly the same problem. i already wrote a text to post in forums because i cant find anything on the internet about this problem.
my text: said:
im using different anja31 roms (Back to the roots FT2 base 161 / Next Generation 202 / and actually One Step Further 6.5.x) and have a strange effect with sense and my sdcard on all of them (not sure if i had this with 1.48 stockrom i used before). somtimes when i do a softreset, something went terribly wrong with manila. when you go to the settings tab and choose 'sdcard and phone storage', the sdcard is shown with 0.00mb at all/used/free. normaly it shows the amounts or if there is no card inserted it shows a text about that (see the attached pictures).
when i use the tool supplied by microsoft the correct amounts of the card is shown, also 99.9% of all programms have normal access to the sdcard. the only exceptions i found are the build in voicerecorder and the document tab. when my device is in that '0.00mb' state both programms refuse to work because there is no space on the card.
till now i tried to:
- take out and back in the card.
- softreset with/without card inserted.
- take out and back in the battery with/without card inserted.
- hardreset and restore a backup, (this only helps if the error was not already present at the time the backup is taken).
non of this helps, the card still shows 0.00mb in the manila settings, its like manila/sense refuse to read the card parameters again and use the old one over again and again. the only way to recover at the moment is to hardreset and hope that the last backup dosent have the bug already in. because if so i have to step back in my backup history and take older snapshots. i use sktools for backups.
does anybody else have this strange phenomenon? i think about using a different rom like artemis or ride the tube, but i dont want to make everything new from scratch (i never use backups when doing a rom change, to prevent side effects) only to discover the same problem again.
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finaly (and because anja stopped rom developing) i gave up on this, and change to a ride the tube rom. the problem is not showing again, but this have nothing to say because the other roms are working for weeks without problems and then suddenly showup the error.
sorry that i cant help you, its more saying 'you are not alone'.
regards mad
ps. the first tow screenshoots show the 'normal' display with/without a card inserted. the third shows how it looks when the error came up, regardless if a card is inserted or not.
*EDIT:21.04.09* the rom has nothing to do wiht it. i could reproduce the problem 2 times, with the new installed rtt rtm3 rom. first time i disable/enable sense under the todayplugin settings to restart it. the result was a crash of sense and after a soft reset the sdcard shows 0.00mb. the second time i installed jetcetprint and worldcard mobile from a cab, after a softreset the sdcard was gone again.
SD Card is full or Missing - SOLVED
1. Delete the folder - Storage card\Application Data
2. Tab again the document tab - wait re-loading until finish searching all documents
3. Successful!

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