Bluetooth Profile - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

I notice that my colleagues IPaq can do all kinds of stuff with his bluetooth...and My Xda can't.....is this fact? ie....bluetooth networking....and much more i think..

The XDA2 ( MDA ) Bluetooth options are very limited compared to iPaqs.
However, ive tried all the usual Bluetooth options ( ftp, pim, serial etc ) and they all seem to work fine - even though there no options to support them.
You can however try these two links:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and try the Bluetooth SuperPak software which can be found here:
http://www.high-point.com
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Redwolf said:
and try the Bluetooth SuperPak software which can be found here:
http://www.high-point.com
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What does this one do/enable ? I can't find it on the website...

Basically it adds extra Bluetooth functions, such as being able to send files and set up other options that the XDA2 doesnt have options for.
It works fine on my XDA2, but a friend of mine hasnt got his working ( even i tried installing it for him and no joy ) so really its trial and error.
Give it a try, but remember if it asks you to overwrite any files, backup those files first, such as system .dll files. :wink:

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Bluetooth sending of files ??

I know the xda II is not capable of this out of the box... Are there any third party apps that would allow me to do this??
The problem is that the XDA II uses the limited Microsoft Bluetooth stack that came with Windows Mobile 2003 instead of the full-featured Widcomm Bluetooth stack used in iPAQs. The Microsoft Bluetooth stack doesn't support the File Transfer profile nor the Network Access profile. Someone has taken the Widcomm stack from the iPAQ and adapted it for the XDA II. Just search this forum for "BluetoothGPS.zip" and you'll see lots of discussions concerning this. But note that this is a hack.
Hi Jargon, Thanks for the reply.. Would it do my xda II any harm if I download it? or would it mess it up? .. If I download the bluetoth gps thru what software can I tranfser files via bluetooth? Thanks
sleekool said:
Hi Jargon, Thanks for the reply.. Would it do my xda II any harm if I download it? or would it mess it up? .. If I download the bluetoth gps thru what software can I tranfser files via bluetooth? Thanks
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I haven't used the hack myself (I didn't want to void my warranty). So I can't speak from experience. But you can find the info you need by searching the forum for "BluetoothGPS.zip".
Nah, If it voids the warranty... Jargon, Thanks for the reply again, would you happen to know how to remove application icon/shortcut on the program menu that has already been removed from the system? another thing, I also accidentally auto-configured the phone to the 1010 settings, how can I remove the settings and the app icon/shortcut on the program menu? thanks
sleekool said:
Nah, If it voids the warranty... Jargon, Thanks for the reply again, would you happen to know how to remove application icon/shortcut on the program menu that has already been removed from the system?
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Yeah, just launch File Explorer and go to the "WINDOWS\Start Menu" folder. Look for the unwanted shortcut in that folder and in all its subfolders. Then delete the unwanted shortcut and you're done.
sleekool said:
another thing, I also accidentally auto-configured the phone to the 1010 settings, how can I remove the settings and the app icon/shortcut on the program menu? thanks
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You're not alone. I once made the same mistake. To fix it, I used PHM Registry Editor to search and delete the "1010" settings in the Pocket PC registry. Then I manually reconfigured all the connection settings (Settings->Connections->Connections->Advanced and MMS Composer options). After that, I removed the AutoConfig icon from the Start->Programs list to make sure I don't make the same mistake again.
I hope this helps.
you bet it helps.. I did it !! I removed the application icons at last. Thanks Jargon. :lol:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
the bluetooth tool in here, use for xda2
Is this a software? or something that might void my warranty?
it says on the update improvements that it still cant send files thru bluetooth until the future versions.. can it?
sleekool said:
Is this a software? or something that might void my warranty?
it says on the update improvements that it still cant send files thru bluetooth until the future versions.. can it?
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You can send file using bluetooth, just launch File Explorer (don't use Resco Explorer, it doesn't work with Bluetooth file transfer), tap and hold the file you wish to beam, then select Beam File... from the popup menu, just wait for your available bluetooth devices to be listed, then just tap to send the file...
I'm glad to be wrong on this one. I've just successfully transferred a file from my desktop PC to my XDA II via Bluetooth (Microsoft stack). However, I still can't figure a way to transfer a file from my XDA II to my desktop PC. My XDA II can detect my desktop PC but the file transfer always fails.
horsy said:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
the bluetooth tool in here, use for xda2
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I have NEVER been able to log on tyo that link, I have tried lots of times, any solution?
cruisin-thru said:
horsy said:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
the bluetooth tool in here, use for xda2
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I have NEVER been able to log on tyo that link, I have tried lots of times, any solution?
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try this link http://www.angeltowns.com/town/bluetooth/
I managed to get that file, however I am no nearer getting my pc and xda2 to sync, or send/receive files. I noticed that once the patch was loaded that "bluetooth" option in activesync vanished. My pc can see my xda, however it cannot browse the files or vice versa. Simple tasks should not be this difficult, I have spent a whole day on this, I even used the latest and greatest widcomm software to no avail.
As an addition to the above, I thought I would try to see if I could have better results using an ipaq 3870, within 10 minutes I had Obex file transfer and activesync through bluetooth working. All I managed on the xda2 was to send files to the desktop using right click/beam command. The ipaq software is far better and does almost all the work for the user.

EDIT Help please... Bluetooth half-gone

Here goes.
I bought a Magician a few months back. Hated the lack of space but liked the Bluetooth functionality. I could connect wirelessly around the house no problem. Sending/receiving files to/from anyone with a Bluetooth device.
Decided to proceed with BigStorage ROM Flash. Flash succesful. Enjoyed adequate space. Hated Bluetooth. I tried to get some help in this forum but the help extended wasn't exactly too successful. I was missing the [`Bluetooth] option in ActiveSync [a registry key I believe], and I couldn't send/receive files. I decided to give up on it until I had enough time to retrieve the registry key by reflashing with shipped ROM and flashing back to BigStorage.
I found the time to do it last week. Flashed and reflashed several times [every single attempt was successful], checking and rechecking for the Bluetooth registry keys. Yet I couldn't find them.
My Magician can still detect Bluetooth devices so I'm sure the hardware isn't busted. But I can't even transfer files using Bluetooth. Tried installing that Bluetooth Stack from http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532. Added some new features, but functionality is as stated in this paragraph.
Help? ::crycry:: hahahaha
I am now totally clueless as to how to go about this predicament..
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I've recently did the BigStorage ROM on my Magician. And everything was just peachy. Up until I tried to sync my Magician to the PC via Bluetooth.
Before I did the ROM patch, I was able to sync my unit through Bluetooth after some few hours of tweaking my system. But after I did the patch, I tried to sync it again through Bluetooth. My PC was waiting for the Magician but the unit kept disconnecting itself.
I ran Activesync on the Magician, went to its settings, and the Bluetooth option was gone. Only `USB was left along with some numbers (baud rates?), when previously it had `Bluetooth as well.
I'm sure Bluetooth works (as I've installed the CAB associated with it from the ExtRom) on the unit since it can make a device pairing and ask for a passkey and all that, but syncing through Bluetooth doesn't work anymore.
Could anyone shed some light on this for me?
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try pairing your device to the pc! make sure that ur pc is not listed on the magician paired devices, activate the pairing from the magician through bluetooth under settings system tab through "Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup" and go from there.
let me know how you go!
errr.. ok i tried what you suggested. and i'm starting to wonder..
now my device can't see and can't be seen. i can't make a pair anymore even from the pc. my unit says 'no new devices found' yet my pc is discoverable.
broken bluetooth radio maybe (but it was working before the patch...)? or could it be a cab file i missed?
Hi i'm only new myself but you could try a soft reset then retry pairing your device, or a hard reset and see if the bluetooth works then? or maybe even try the cab file on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532
I have found that worst case senario a hard reset and look for the right bluetooth cab to install from the ext rom.
run a search on this site for ext rom and look for the post with details about each of the seperate files and what they do!
*Edit* i did a quick search and i wasnt able to find anything in the ext rom that applies to bluetooth setup or settings! so i guess a hard reset maybe the best way to find out whether is software or hardware?!!
Maybe one of the more experienced guys on this site might be able to help you further.
Hope this helps a little
thanks for your time boh113. i can still sync through the USB port so i guess bluetooth will have to wait. i just use it for wireless internet around the house when i'm not at the pc anyway.
i might try the hard reset when i have more time to tinker with the magician. but in any case, i'd like to thank you for trying to help
just an update in case somebody can help
i managed to pair my device with the pc already. but i still can't connect via bluetooth in the magician's async.
ok i found something in my registry pertaining to my problem. although i'm not sure how to fix it.
in the magician's async, under tools -> options -> PC -> options, there's a drop-down list for PC synchronization options:
`115200 Default
`19200 Default
`38400 Default
`57600 Default
`USB
there was a `Bluetooth option included at the end of the list before i did the bigstorage ROM.
going back to the registry, i found the keys to this list (although i'm not entirely sure if these are correct, but these are the only ones on my list)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`115200 Default
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`19200 Default
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`38400 Default
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`57600 Default
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`USB
and to what i can see, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook\`Bluetooth doesn't exist. there are a whole lot of hex values under these keys and i'm not sure what they are for.
although if somebody could post/upload the `Bluetooth key from their device, i'd be grateful.
i'm aware that the hex values are also based upon hardware but i'm willing to try it out.
Ok i can find what your talking about but i dont have the ability to copy and paste the registry entry anywhere?!
if you can tell me how to get hold of this for you i'd be happy to help anyway i can!
most registry editors have the capability for exporting specific keys up to whole trees. perhaps if you have resco explorer and the registry add-on. or some other software similar to it. tap-hold and export?
thanks
I have resco explorer and the registry add-on but i cant find anyway to export the registry file?!
There's an option for import but thats it, also there's an option to copy but all it allows you to do is copy and past within the registry itself!
unfortunately i dont have the technical experience to do much ore tha n this, a quick guide as to which program to use and how to do it and i would be more than happy to help!
oh ok. open up resco explorer or the registry add-on. then navigate your way to this folder:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Comm\RasBook
there should be a \`Bluetooth\ folder within \RasBook\ what you do is tap-and-hold on that (`Bluetooth) folder until you see the drop down text list. "Export..." should be one of the options then you can specify where to put it. by default resco places it in the main memory
will wait thanks boh113
No worries found it and exported for your satisfaction!
Had to zip it ;D
hope this can help you further!
Goodluck
Much appreciated!!
Will try it out in a bit. I'll post my results after
Thanks boh113!
well, i got back the `Bluetooth option in async. but still doesn't want to connect to the pc. the hex values probably don't match the hardware in my unit. oh well. i'll test it out a couple more hours. and if i still don't get it to work, a hard reset might be my only solution. or re-flash with my original rom and start all over again. hahahaha
thanks for your help and time boh113. forgive me for having taken too much of it
No worries, sorry i couldnt have been of more help!
Good luck with it all!
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Need better "BT manager" like widcomms. Help!

HI!
Is very satisfied with my prophet BUT where is all nice BT profiles from 2003SE?
Widcomms "Bluetooth Wizard" was way better , especially the Obex FTP profile so you could browse/send/recieve files from another phone or your computer.
Have searched everywhere. Tried all hacks and BT stacks. Like Toshiba Bcsh, Widcomms, AVE, Brainboxes etc ending up with nasty errors.
The only thing I really want is the Obex FTP stuff.
Have also searched for a Obex file browser like "Bluetooth Commander" (PalmOS) but have not found similar software for PPC
Anyone who knows what to do?
And yes, I have went through every page on XDA-developers.com!
Heeelp
Thanks in advance
/MrX
hi rastamanne, i'm finding that my file transferring needs are being handled fine by the beam file menu in WM5.
You gotta use the crappy included file explorer however, i imagine most people use Rescos.
Anyway, tap and hold on file, and click beam. Working for me fine so far.

Internet sharing on WM5 with Wifi and proxy

I have wm5 with an old rom ... no ICS
After reading a lot
I thought that I try http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1 and
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...tting_up_a_bluetooth_personal_area_net&more=1
HTTPSnoopProxy.class file, copy it to, say, the root of your "access point" Pocket PC and get a decent Java Virtual Machine (I recommend CrEme 4.00 because of its superior speed, reliability and moderate memory consumption).
Install CrEme on the device that you would like to act as the Bluetooth Access Point. Then, on the same PDA, write a link file that invokes CrEme on HTTPSnoopProxy.class.
The link file will be, assuming you install CrEme in the main memory, as follows:
255#"\Windows\creme\bin\CrEme.exe" -Ob -classpath \ HTTPSnoopProxy 8080
To make your life easier, I've uploaded an example file here – you only need to put it in, say, \Windows\Start Menu\Programs so that it's easily accessible. It, again, assumes that CrEme 4.00 is installed into main memory and HTTPSnoopProxy.class is copied to the root directory of your PDA. If not, you must modify either the path to CrEme.exe or the parameter of -classpath.
Then, just set up a Bluetooth PAN network and find out the IP address of the "server" (the "Access point") PDA
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But I have a MS BT stack not sure if this Widcomm version is trouble free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003&posted=1#post1073003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
using the HTC_PCM_Routing dll and is now using a custom dll. By using a custom dll I have complete control over the processing and can pass the multiple IO control calls need to get the audio routed. You may notice a funny icon in the phone app while audio is routed, I think this is tty mode (not sure), but, it works to do what I needed. Also, I have not messed with Voice Command activation yet, but, I do think that should be possible. I have not hard-reset tested this cab so please let me know if there are any issues. I also moved serial5 to serial9, so you may have to manually delete the serial 5 driver keys. After installing the cab if it does not work correctly, make sure the widcomm/plugins/handsfree/audiosetupdll says SD_PCM_ROUTING.dll
I'll also attach that dll separately for those who just want to replace the key and dll.
One note, the audio routing is full time, once activated all audio all the time will be routed.
,Dave
Edit: State management has been corrected, updated to v.03.
,Dave
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I found The fluxist WiFi Hack -
These instructions will allow you to connect to the Internet connection on your Hermes via WiFi. Essentially, you will be turning your Hermes into a WiFi access point.
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_accesspoint
So I wondered if The fluxist WiFi Hack could work with the proxy not sure how best to proceed.
Is it better to run the proxy and install the widcomm stack
or try to adapt the fluxist WiFi Hack to work with the proxy
or just to give up and wait until I falsh wm6 (i'd rather not go this way)
Can anyone provide a step by step on getting this to work?
starfish_001 said:
I have wm5 with an old rom ... no ICS
After reading a lot
I thought that I try http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1 and
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...tting_up_a_bluetooth_personal_area_net&more=1
But I have a MS BT stack not sure if this Widcomm version is trouble free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003&posted=1#post1073003
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
I found The fluxist WiFi Hack -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_accesspoint
So I wondered if The fluxist WiFi Hack could work with the proxy not sure how best to proceed.
Is it better to run the proxy and install the widcomm stack
or try to adapt the fluxist WiFi Hack to work with the proxy
or just to give up and wait until I falsh wm6 (i'd rather not go this way)
Can anyone provide a step by step on getting this to work?
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First, do you want to share your Wi-Fi or GPRS connection? It's only in the former case that you'd need the first (Java) app; with the latter case, go for the "hacked" one.
Thanks - i like to share my 3G/Gprs with my laptop ideally.
I'm guessing that I still need the proxy as I have a rom without ICS built in
WIFI to Bluetooth
First of all please don't mind my simple English.
I want to know if it's possible to do something similar.
Except:
My Device(HTC Wizard WM6) is connected to Wifi accespoint or using Desktop internet from USB.
can I share this connection over Bluetooth?
so my other mobile can use Wizards internet.
Internet from as desktop --> HTC Wizard --> BT on other mobile.
or
Wifi Accesspoint --> HTC Wizard --> BT on other mobile.
thnx.

Laptop + HD bluetooth problem

i have a Toshiba Satellite.. about 1 year long and i put a Kingston bluetooth USB on.. ive used it before with my Sony Ericsson and i had no problem but now that i try to connect with my HD it doesn't work.
my HD thinks it connected but my computer doesn't
i cant send files to the phone or anything at all.
its not even recognized
everything works fine if i use the USB cable the HD brought
do i need to update some kind of drive? or what?
anyone got any ideas?
Windows Bluetooth Protocols
Just an idea, but some phones use File Transfer Protocol on Bluetooth, however Windows Mobile devices use Object Push Protocol, adding this protocol onto your Laptops range of available Bluetooth settings, SHOULD allow you to transfer files between Laptop and Touch HD via Bluetooth. Had a similar problem with my laptop!
Hope this solves your problem!
"Once upon a time" in windows mobile 6 I was able to browse my phone through bluetooth connection.
Now with the Blackstone it appears to be impossible. There is no such option within the bluetooth settings.
i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.
tyronne1126 said:
i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.
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i can send and receive files to my device and have them stored to my Bluetooth Share folder on my storage card. i exported the registry changes and dll from my Orbit2. you can get the dll file here and the registry changes here. it's probabaly best if you follow my instructions from here. once you've made the changes, soft reset and you should be able to send files to your folder of choice without prompts. there are probably other methods of accomplishing the same task, but this has worked for me since i've had my HD. oh yeah, the disclaimer: you assume all risk for anything that happens as a result fo the import and file copy to your device.
i rather not go through all that.. dont want to mess up anything. leaving it pretty much stock. best way to go. besides adding programs (real ones) haha.. only thing i have is HD Tweak from here.. i dont evne have gyrator.. not really needed. thanks anyway. ill just use the cable.
if you're not an experienced WM user, i can understand not wanting to follow the detailed instructions. they were created for the person who requested the info. really, your not installing software, your copying a (certified windows mobile dll) file to your device and importing a registry setting. it's basically the manual steps a cab file would execute. you copy the dll to your windows folder, use PHM or Resco Registry to import the registry settings, soft reset and then try to send a file to your laptop. that's it.
For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).
ill see what i can do later.. i got finals >< thanks guys
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For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).
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same here.... this method is to transfer files via Bluetooth/OBEX to a folder of your choice without prompts and without having to connect to WDMC or AS...

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