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RE: bluetooth

RE: bluetooth
i was wondering if it is possible to send a message using bluetooth, like with the Nokia phones, where you search for a bluetooth device nearby, and then send a message.
also, when my device is paired up with my computer, i can not seem to be able to use more than one connection, e.g.: if i'm using my bluetooth headset, i can't sync the Himalaya. i was wondering if it is normal or not.
in connection with bluetooth and the computer, i can't see any service other than these two: "OBEX Object Push" and "SSA"
are these the only two service available from the device, or are there more?
thanks in advance...
p.s.: i use a Widcomm stack for my D-Link bluetooth dongle

Hi,
To chat with other devices, you can use:
http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysqlcc.html
Depending on your settings, you normally can use more services at once from your computer...
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449
Hope this helps...
Sam

hey,
the MySQL thing is not available for the Himalaya, only for a desktop PC.
i looked through the website of geekzone, but i could not find anything about multiple bluetooth connections
thanks for your help tho...
NfScLambo

PocketBlueChat.exe

hmm...can i know what the program is, and how good it is, according to experiences, so as not to mess up my brand new Himalaya, pls?
also, i went and googled on the program and found this out:
Before downloading pocketBlueChat, make sure you meet all the prerequisites:
PocketPC 2002 Device
Bluetooth capable device
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does this mean that it won't work on my Himalaya?

Hi,
Sorry for the MySQL-link... The wrong link was on my clipboard... :?
I posted too fast...
I wanted to enter the link of PocketBlueChat (the other post)...
You can find some more information on http://www.thegedanken.com/Bluechat/ (this should be the right one)... Sorry...
It works great! The only problem is that the other client also needs BlueChat, but it's only one "exe", so you can beam it to your other contact!
Sam

o ok
i was hoping for something like nokia's bluejacking system
you send a person a contact through bluetooth, and this contact contains a message. i see that's not possible by default, but i wonder if there is an add on for it

samvds said:
It works great! The only problem is that the other client also needs BlueChat, but it's only one "exe", so you can beam it to your other contact!
Sam
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I've just tried using BueChat on my XDA2 and its comes up with the following error
'Unable to open the ReadPort'
How did you get yours to work?

Put on bluetooth and softreset, it work.

XDA exec and Mac

Hey people,
I have a XDA exec and I am just wonering if anyone knows any (preferably free) programs that allows me to connect my XDA with my Mac mini. I cant seem to use the bluetooth to send thing over (all the time it just says decive is not compatible with this file or somthing.
Anyone help? Thanks.

No activeSync as of yet, sorry.
There is software available but it isnt free.

Ignore the file incompatible message and click on send anyway. It's pure nonsense. The universal will download it anyway.

i think you might as well get a SD Crad reader to transfer file.
i use USB SD card reader tranfer file from my powerbook to my dopod 900 if i have 2 or more file to send it

Yes I already hd an SD card in there, but not a card reader.
When I try to send somthing to it via bluetooth, it just says "device does not have nessesery services" and fails to send? Also, when I look under paired devices, I look under say my nokia 6680, and it says:
Device Services: SDP Server, Hands-Free Audio Gateway, Headset Audio Gateway, OBEX File Transfer, SyncMLClient, Nokia OBEX PC Suite Services, OBEX Object Push, Dial-Up Networking, Imaging
When I look under my XDA exec, it only says:
Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Dial-up Networking

in yr mac under yr System Preferences bluetooth.
have u tried to delete yr xda exec pairing
and pair it again??
after yr pairing with yr exec try to send it again.
hope its work.if it cant work pls let me knw i will check it out with my friend.

Keep an eye on this site too - they say they are working on WM5 support at the moment.
I used it for my ipaq and it worked really well - will probably get the new version when they have syncing sorted for WM5 too
http://www.pocketmac.net
Cheers,
Smiffy.

I have tried pairing it and unpairing it several times but to no avail.
I also saw that, and when it becomes available for WM 05, I will probably buy it.

my dopod wm5 work together with my powerbook well.

Mac os X and jasjar
Hi chaslam,
To get it working you need to change a registry setting...See below:
To change the ability to receive files via Bluetooth (OBEX)
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex'
The 'IsEnabled' DWORD value should be set to '1' to enable OBEX and '0' to disable OBEX.
For example, to enable the ability to receive fles via Bluetooth
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex\IsEnabled = 1
You can then send via bluetooth...(you get a message saying not supported, but it will send, files appear in my documents folder)
Regards
hippo

Sorry but I dont understand that at all lol. Where do I type that in?

bluetooth sending
no problem, I've been there and still am sometimes! you need to edit a registry setting. To do that you can use some software installed to your jasjar. Do you have a method to get files copied to jasjar at the moment? if so let me know and I'll send you the application and tell you the steps to go through.
ps. what version of Mac OS X are you using?

Sorry I havent got back to you sooner, ive been very busy the last couple of days.
Yes I can do it via a PC I have, but my Mac is the main computer that I use so I would like to transfer things via that.
I would be very greatful if you could send me the program. If you dont want to post it on the forum you could send it to my email if thats ok. Its [email protected] (dont worry about spambots as its my Spam email address what I post on forums).
I am using the latest version of 10.4.3.
Thanks

ok, got the program installed but I am not sure how to acually change it. I get to the opening page and it says:
hkey classes root
hkey current user
hkey local machine
hkey user
When I click on on of these it does nothing. Just lets me change what it says. I cant find the obex thing and all of that.
Sorry if I have being stupid, but could somone help me on what to do from here?

Ok been looking around the forum and found a much simpler and safer way to do this.
Just go to settings > Connections > Beam > Accept all incoming Files
Much simpler and safer, and it works!
Thanks everyone for your help.

bluetooth
That's Great - I should have checked the easy option first!

Hmmm I tried this lastnight and I have "receiving all incoming beams" enabled and I couldnt BT any files over.
Are you sure you didnt use IR?

Try re pairing your exec and see if it works. Worked fine with me.
Oh and IR is the little infared box on the phone. Completely different from bluetooth.

Got it working - Shoulda tried re-pairing really!
Cheers Chaslam

On the subject of syncing data from your Universal to a Mac.. there are two utilities that are due to be updated to support WM5 soon and they are
PocketMac
&
Missing Sync
These are the only apps that will sync directly to a mac as far as I know... unless anyone knows better??? please let us know :lol:

For anyone having problems with activesync - my solution...

Okay - I was having no end of problems connecting to Activesync and syncing to Exchange (local desktop would work ok), sometimes activesync on the desktop pc would stay at 'connecting' other times it would try to connect, but fail with error code 80072efd or 0x85002003. I also kept getting the error message on the PDA - unable to connect with your network settings (or something like it...).
After a couple of days trying to get it working (and occasionally succeeding after hard resets etc) I started investigating...
So, I checked a few things... Activesync 4.X uses a Remote-NDIS host on the PDA to make an IP based lan-type connection to your pc. Check your settings in
Settings > Connections > Network Cards > Network Adapters
for the 'Remote-NDIS Host'.
Mine had been set on 'Use Specific IP Address'. Change this to 'Use Server-Assigned IP Address'
Now check that it says ' My network card connects to' and that work is selected.
Now check Settings > Connections > Network Cards > Connections'
and check that the proxy server states - This network connects to the Internet' and that there is no proxy server specified.
I don't know if this will sort any issues out for anyone else - but it worked a treat with mine, so having spend days trying to get it working I thought I would share my horribly annonying experiences!!!
Hope it helps,
Liamo

on secoind thoughts - this has caused me more problems... grr I hate activesync - ignore my babbeling....
If I sort it properly I will post again..
i'm off to eat some apple-humble pie.
liamo
:-(

Okay,
so I uninstalled version 4.1 of activestink and installed the latest version 4.2. I created the pairing and hey presto - it's synching again.
Yup - it's great fun.
ohh, I also hard-reset in between 'cause I was annoyed!!!
;-)
liam

this worked for me.
i too faced the 'spinning wheel' problem with active sync.
i figured out that it was the configuration of the desktop or laptop and not the wizard as such.
1. after connecting the USB, i cud see messages like RNDIS device ready and all.
2. after this click on the lan icon in the taskbar of desktop. it displays all the lan connections. select the one that is for windows based mobile device.
3. in the properties for this lan connection, in general tab, check the box for Internet protocol.
4. In the advanced tab, click on settings for windows firewall.
5. check if activesync is added to the exceptions list. if not, check the box for activesync. click ok.
this should solve the problem. i sometimes have to do each time i connect thru usb.
hope this works.

hey guy i also had the same problem and although the first post was somewhat helpful, i still had to take an extra step in order for activesync to connect properly.
1. after changing to " Use Server-Assigned IP Address" in the connections tab i then had to:
2.go to the "usb to pc" interface and uncheck "enable advanced network funciotnality"
thanks for this post - i couldnt get my activesync to woork for the past 5 days

Activestink 4.2 won't even start on my computer :lol:
I don't really need it anyway :roll:

Anyone got stuck when Activesync keeps "Retrieving Settings" endlessly ???

moedinha said:
Anyone got stuck when Activesync keeps "Retrieving Settings" endlessly ???
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You should make the activesync on the phone a serial connection instead of a ndis connection, this cab helped me:

great man! i tried everything and this really works. thanks a lot

mrjay said:
great man! i tried everything and this really works. thanks a lot
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You're welcome
It was driving me crazy the first day I had my wizard.
you can also use a registery hack:
use your favourite regeditor;
change
HKLM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\“DefaultClientDriver“=“RNDIS“
into:
HKLM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\“DefaultClientDriver“=“Serial_Class“
Erase:
HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“
do a Soft-Reset.
check after the reset if a:
HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“ key has been made for serial communication otherwise it won't work.

the-equinoxe said:
moedinha said:
Anyone got stuck when Activesync keeps "Retrieving Settings" endlessly ???
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You should make the activesync on the phone a serial connection instead of a ndis connection, this cab helped me:
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How can I run this cab if I can't use Activesync? (My PPC (MDA Pro) is in a vanilla state)

in my case was easier because i was able to copy on the ppc but i couldn't copy from it. trry to load it somewhere where you can take it from with your phone.

I've tried d/ling it from here but It doesn't save as a cab file.

Slave1 said:
the-equinoxe said:
moedinha said:
Anyone got stuck when Activesync keeps "Retrieving Settings" endlessly ???
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You should make the activesync on the phone a serial connection instead of a ndis connection, this cab helped me:
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How can I run this cab if I can't use Activesync? (My PPC (MDA Pro) is in a vanilla state)
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This is the trick I found out:
Connect your phone, wait till activesync starts.
Run taskmanager on your pc and kill:
WCESMgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
Go to your explorer (again PC) and doubleclick:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\wcescomm.exe
Activesync will run now without errors (but doesn't sync!).
click on explore, copy the cab to the phone.
Disconnect the usb-cable, start the cab on the phone.
Reboot the pc, reconnect the usb-cable and activesync will sync again

the-equinoxe said:
mrjay said:
great man! i tried everything and this really works. thanks a lot
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You're welcome
It was driving me crazy the first day I had my wizard.
you can also use a registery hack:
use your favourite regeditor;
change
HKLM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\“DefaultClientDriver“=“RNDIS“
into:
HKLM\Drivers\USB\FunctionDrivers\“DefaultClientDriver“=“Serial_Class“
Erase:
HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“
do a Soft-Reset.
check after the reset if a:
HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“ key has been made for serial communication otherwise it won't work.
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I've make the registry changes but after soft resetting, no HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“ key has been created. Can you please post the contents of that reg key so I can put in manually otherwise is there something else I need to do to get the key created?

I have also had a similar problem with my computer and my Qtek 9100 not "finding each other" properly for a sync over USB ince the day I bought it over a year ago. Haven't been too bothered with it, as I've synced via BT instead (which works perfectly).
Still, technology that doensn't work properly seriously anoys me. Having tried all other available and suggested solutions I stumbled across the-equinoxe's recepie of reg-changes. After following the instructions I also ended upp with no HKCU\Comm\RasBook\’USB\“Entry“ for serial communication.
Therefore, I would like to repeat sunseakers call for help... Could anyone tell me what the contents of that entry is supposed to be?
Thanks for any help!

...i don't know if this will work for you, but i attached mine usbreg...

Thanks Krinkie.

ActiveSync must be one of the most frustrating applications out there. I have tried all recommended fixes and still cannot get ActiveSync to recognize my MDA. The last time I did a sync was 9/06. Too much BS using this application. I have searched all over the web and cannot find any application that will allow me to update my PIM file without ActiveSync. So, I guess I will finally give up on this. Thanks to all of you who have tried to help me. Thank You!!

I've been trying for days to connect to my laptop and the file above 'rndis to serial' finally did the trick... I'd read elsewhere about turning off your firewall etc, in the end I'd uninstalled all my firewall, anti spyware and antivirus programs...
Thank god for everyone here at XDA-developers... there wasn't anything useful on the Microsoft site.

Autosync with bluetooth

Hi, I've enabled an ActiveSync connection with my Trinity and my computer via bluetooth..
What I really want though is to have it connect automatically once I'm within range and everything is on, how would I do this?
Thanks for any help!

Hi, How did you manage to sync via Bluetooth.
Thanks

Haven't done this yet, I need to buy a dongle... but according to the info I've read you need to setup a pan service that is the equivilent of a wifi ad hoc connection...

smalley83 said:
Hi, How did you manage to sync via Bluetooth.
Thanks
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Search the forums.
PAN service...I'll give it a go..

Question for El_Mariachi
So, you have your PPC rigged up to sync through bluetooth each time you put it in the cradle? That's my goal, but I'm having some trouble you might be able to help with.
Here's my situation:
- PC and PPC are paired
- Sync is possible through bluetooth manually
- In the Activesync program on the PPC I go to Menu>Connections>
The "Synchronize all PCs using this connection:" box is ticked
However, the drop down list of options only contains "`USB" and nothing else
If it isn't too much trouble, could you check your registry here:
HKCU>ControlPanel>Comm
And please list all the values under that Key?
I really appreciate it.

Apparently you have to sync manually there is no other way. I'm not sure how to check the registry but let me know and I'll be happy to post the values
In terms of syncing...
Pair your PPC with your PC
Enable an incoming COM Port from your PC via bluetooth
In AS on your PC, allow connections through that COM Port
On your PPC, in AS, select connect via Bluetooth, select your PC, ActiveSync should appear and check the box.
Then connect via bluetooth again and it should work!

Exporting regsitry keys
If you have a registry editor installed, it should be easy. If you don't have a registry editor installed, and you don't really want to install one I will understand. On the other hand, if you don't mind then a popular freeware is fdcsoft's task manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32913&d=1168267333
Once installed, open the program and find the regedit tab. Open HKEYCurrentUser>Comm>Rasbook (see Rasbook location attachment for a pic) and look and see if there isn't a key called Bluetooth, or perhaps `Bluetooth. If there is, then tap and hold that key and select Export. (See Bluetooth Export attachment for another pic) If you zip and attach that file then I can download it and see if it works on my PPC.
Again, if this is too much hassle then it's cool, but it might really help me out. Thanks.
John

Sending files via bluetooth

Hi i wonder if anyone can help,
Now i seem to have had this problem with every HTC phones i have used (XDA orbit, steller, mini) and now my HTC HD2. why cant anyone send me files, pictures, music anything via bluetooth. We get all paired up and eeverything but when they send it to me it just comes up connection failed?
Now i know my bluetooth works on all me phones as i sync at work and have handsfree in the car, so i can only assume its settings but i have look at all of it and cant figure where im going wrong?
thanks in advanced
shane

Hmmm . . .
Do you click "Accept" for the file transfere ? (Bottom left of screen (soft-key))
(After accepting the conneciton, the file transfer itself needs to be accepted as well)
Besides that - to transfer files from my computer, I had to enable the file transfer protocol:
Settings->menu->all settings->bluetooth->"Gears" tab<left most tab ***>->Advanced<+> ->File transfer->allow incoming file transfer

Som30ne said:
Do you click "Accept" for the file transfere ? (Bottom left of screen (soft-key))
(After accepting the conneciton, the file transfer itself needs to be accepted as well)
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It never gets that far, i dont get the option to accept, on my mates phone it just says connection failed. i dont get anything on my screen, but we are paired up so its not like they cant find me phone etc. it just says connection failed, when they try to send it to me. i have also left all visibilty etc on, and even keep my phone ruuning (i.e. not standby) and still no luck.
Som30ne said:
Besides that - to transfer files from my computer, I had to enable the file transfer protocol:
Settings->menu->all settings->bluetooth->"Gears" tab<left most tab ***>->Advanced<+> ->File transfer->allow incoming file transfer
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I have tried this option with the paired phones, but again no luck, however i have no problem sharing pictures etc from my PC. sending files etc via bluetooth and my computer at work, works fine. its just people sending files etc from other mobiles???
this is what is confusing me, but i have had the problem on all xda's i have had, so there must be another setting.
cheers

No one has any ideas then?? its bugging me now

Can't help you mate.
All I can say is that on all my HTC phones (Diamond, HD & now HD2), it's worked fine - never had a problem.

I also had this very same problem. I have a Kaiser (vodafone v1615) and i was able to send files via bluetooth, but not to receive them. Then i found this thread and now the thing is working:
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=227899
Basically the solution is:
TIP: Make sure you enable “Receive all incoming beams” if you want to receive files / PIM records over Bluetooth on Pocket PC’s with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack!
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This can be done in "start menu"->"settings"->"connections" tab->"Beam"
Just that simple check.
Let me know if this works for you.

I have this exact same problem! Unfortunately the quote above only applies to Wm6.1 and below that use the microsoft bluetooth stack.
On this occasion HTC have plumped for their own buggy version.
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585081
I think there is some conflict between obex push and obex file transfer. I have a toshiba bluetooth stack on my winxp install and the bluex utils on my linux partition. Neither of them work anymore on wm6.5 whereas they did on my wm6.1 polaris.

i dont have a connections tab on the HTC HD2, well i have a connections page but i dont have beam as a option??

Subsx said:
i dont have a connections tab on the HTC HD2, well i have a connections page but i dont have beam as a option??
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You wont have "beam". "Beam is part of the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack. The HD2 has the widcomm stack.

optiknerv said:
You wont have "beam". "Beam is part of the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack. The HD2 has the widcomm stack.
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Ok but im guessing then that no body can help or even have the same problem??

well, I may be a few months late, but here's my solution, at least it might help new HD2 users:
go to settings tab, choose "all settings" from the right menu button
choose bluetooth, and then click on the settings tab (the one with cog wheels) make your device dicoverable, then from advanced>connectivity>remove the check mark if you don't have your friends' de3vices paired with yours.
finallyadvanced>file transfer>check: allow incoming file transfer connections.
to make this a bit faster you can browse your windows library via file explorer and create a shortcut for the bluetooth program in the start menu (this will also enable you to add a shortcut in the manila today
hope this helps