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RE: bluetooth

RE: bluetooth
i was wondering if it is possible to send a message using bluetooth, like with the Nokia phones, where you search for a bluetooth device nearby, and then send a message.
also, when my device is paired up with my computer, i can not seem to be able to use more than one connection, e.g.: if i'm using my bluetooth headset, i can't sync the Himalaya. i was wondering if it is normal or not.
in connection with bluetooth and the computer, i can't see any service other than these two: "OBEX Object Push" and "SSA"
are these the only two service available from the device, or are there more?
thanks in advance...
p.s.: i use a Widcomm stack for my D-Link bluetooth dongle

Hi,
To chat with other devices, you can use:
http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysqlcc.html
Depending on your settings, you normally can use more services at once from your computer...
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449
Hope this helps...
Sam

hey,
the MySQL thing is not available for the Himalaya, only for a desktop PC.
i looked through the website of geekzone, but i could not find anything about multiple bluetooth connections
thanks for your help tho...
NfScLambo

PocketBlueChat.exe

hmm...can i know what the program is, and how good it is, according to experiences, so as not to mess up my brand new Himalaya, pls?
also, i went and googled on the program and found this out:
Before downloading pocketBlueChat, make sure you meet all the prerequisites:
PocketPC 2002 Device
Bluetooth capable device
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does this mean that it won't work on my Himalaya?

Hi,
Sorry for the MySQL-link... The wrong link was on my clipboard... :?
I posted too fast...
I wanted to enter the link of PocketBlueChat (the other post)...
You can find some more information on http://www.thegedanken.com/Bluechat/ (this should be the right one)... Sorry...
It works great! The only problem is that the other client also needs BlueChat, but it's only one "exe", so you can beam it to your other contact!
Sam

o ok
i was hoping for something like nokia's bluejacking system
you send a person a contact through bluetooth, and this contact contains a message. i see that's not possible by default, but i wonder if there is an add on for it

samvds said:
It works great! The only problem is that the other client also needs BlueChat, but it's only one "exe", so you can beam it to your other contact!
Sam
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I've just tried using BueChat on my XDA2 and its comes up with the following error
'Unable to open the ReadPort'
How did you get yours to work?

Put on bluetooth and softreset, it work.

XDA exec and Mac

Hey people,
I have a XDA exec and I am just wonering if anyone knows any (preferably free) programs that allows me to connect my XDA with my Mac mini. I cant seem to use the bluetooth to send thing over (all the time it just says decive is not compatible with this file or somthing.
Anyone help? Thanks.

No activeSync as of yet, sorry.
There is software available but it isnt free.

Ignore the file incompatible message and click on send anyway. It's pure nonsense. The universal will download it anyway.

i think you might as well get a SD Crad reader to transfer file.
i use USB SD card reader tranfer file from my powerbook to my dopod 900 if i have 2 or more file to send it

Yes I already hd an SD card in there, but not a card reader.
When I try to send somthing to it via bluetooth, it just says "device does not have nessesery services" and fails to send? Also, when I look under paired devices, I look under say my nokia 6680, and it says:
Device Services: SDP Server, Hands-Free Audio Gateway, Headset Audio Gateway, OBEX File Transfer, SyncMLClient, Nokia OBEX PC Suite Services, OBEX Object Push, Dial-Up Networking, Imaging
When I look under my XDA exec, it only says:
Device Services: Service Discovery, Voice Gateway, Voice Gateway, Dial-up Networking

in yr mac under yr System Preferences bluetooth.
have u tried to delete yr xda exec pairing
and pair it again??
after yr pairing with yr exec try to send it again.
hope its work.if it cant work pls let me knw i will check it out with my friend.

Keep an eye on this site too - they say they are working on WM5 support at the moment.
I used it for my ipaq and it worked really well - will probably get the new version when they have syncing sorted for WM5 too
http://www.pocketmac.net
Cheers,
Smiffy.

I have tried pairing it and unpairing it several times but to no avail.
I also saw that, and when it becomes available for WM 05, I will probably buy it.

my dopod wm5 work together with my powerbook well.

Mac os X and jasjar
Hi chaslam,
To get it working you need to change a registry setting...See below:
To change the ability to receive files via Bluetooth (OBEX)
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex'
The 'IsEnabled' DWORD value should be set to '1' to enable OBEX and '0' to disable OBEX.
For example, to enable the ability to receive fles via Bluetooth
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Obex\IsEnabled = 1
You can then send via bluetooth...(you get a message saying not supported, but it will send, files appear in my documents folder)
Regards
hippo

Sorry but I dont understand that at all lol. Where do I type that in?

bluetooth sending
no problem, I've been there and still am sometimes! you need to edit a registry setting. To do that you can use some software installed to your jasjar. Do you have a method to get files copied to jasjar at the moment? if so let me know and I'll send you the application and tell you the steps to go through.
ps. what version of Mac OS X are you using?

Sorry I havent got back to you sooner, ive been very busy the last couple of days.
Yes I can do it via a PC I have, but my Mac is the main computer that I use so I would like to transfer things via that.
I would be very greatful if you could send me the program. If you dont want to post it on the forum you could send it to my email if thats ok. Its [email protected] (dont worry about spambots as its my Spam email address what I post on forums).
I am using the latest version of 10.4.3.
Thanks

ok, got the program installed but I am not sure how to acually change it. I get to the opening page and it says:
hkey classes root
hkey current user
hkey local machine
hkey user
When I click on on of these it does nothing. Just lets me change what it says. I cant find the obex thing and all of that.
Sorry if I have being stupid, but could somone help me on what to do from here?

Ok been looking around the forum and found a much simpler and safer way to do this.
Just go to settings > Connections > Beam > Accept all incoming Files
Much simpler and safer, and it works!
Thanks everyone for your help.

bluetooth
That's Great - I should have checked the easy option first!

Hmmm I tried this lastnight and I have "receiving all incoming beams" enabled and I couldnt BT any files over.
Are you sure you didnt use IR?

Try re pairing your exec and see if it works. Worked fine with me.
Oh and IR is the little infared box on the phone. Completely different from bluetooth.

Got it working - Shoulda tried re-pairing really!
Cheers Chaslam

On the subject of syncing data from your Universal to a Mac.. there are two utilities that are due to be updated to support WM5 soon and they are
PocketMac
&
Missing Sync
These are the only apps that will sync directly to a mac as far as I know... unless anyone knows better??? please let us know :lol:

Where are all the bluetooth functions (esp. File Transfer)?

The only bluetooth functions I get on my MDA Pro are Headset and Serial Port. I'm desperate for File Transfer... does anyone know how to get it? Thanks!

They are there, just not visible..
Try sending a file to your Universal through BT, and it shall recieve it..
Make sure that the beam settings are "Accept all inncoming"

if you use the inbuilt file explorer on any file, you can press and hold, then select beam file. if bluetooth is on, it will:
1. search the infra red port
2. Search all surrounding devices with bluetooth on, and discoverable.
then you can just select where you want it to go.

Transfer files using bluetooth
Does anyone know how I could transfer a file from my Qtek 9000 to my Nokia N70 (Symbian OS) using BLUETOOTH. When I pair the two I get "Dialup networking” only I cannot find a way of transferring files from one device to the other. Please include step by step instructions if you know how.
Thanks

Re: Transfer files using bluetooth
avensis said:
Does anyone know how I could transfer a file from my Qtek 9000 to my Nokia N70 (Symbian OS) using BLUETOOTH. When I pair the two I get "Dialup networking” only I cannot find a way of transferring files from one device to the other. Please include step by step instructions if you know how.
Thanks
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1. Enable Bluetooth on both devices;
2. Open File Explorer, go to the desired file, hold the stylus down (like right click on a PC) and choose "Beam File" (this works with Bluetooth as well as Infrared)
3. Choose Nokia N70 or its assigned device name when you see it on the list

File sent as a message not as a files transfer
Yes thanks i tried doing what you suggested, but it sent the file from the Qtek 9000 to the N70 -> recieved it as a message and i could not save the actual file anywhere on t he N70?

Well, what does the message look like? What type of file are you trying to transfer? I would expect you be able to save an attachment or something similar. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the Symbian OS.

Bonzo said:
They are there, just not visible..
Try sending a file to your Universal through BT, and it shall recieve it..
Make sure that the beam settings are "Accept all inncoming"
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Either I'm doing something stupid here, but.. if I send a file from my desktop to my MDA Pro (BT enabled, accept incoming beams enabled) I just get a message saying 'ftp service not found on target device'
If I explore available services I can see DUN and Voice Gateway... am I missing something?

Re: File sent as a message not as a files transfer
avensis said:
Yes thanks i tried doing what you suggested, but it sent the file from the Qtek 9000 to the N70 -> recieved it as a message and i could not save the actual file anywhere on t he N70?
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Im very familiar with symbian OS but new with PPCs so should be able to help!
Install a file explorer such as fexplorer onto your n70. Fexplorer on the root page has a mail option, and when you enter it, you can see all the files recieved via btooth/mms. Copy the file and paste it to your desired location using fexplorer. Alternatively, if the file explorer you use doesn't have the "mail" option on the home of the sw, visit x:/system/mail (x= c or e depending on where messages are stored) and browse throygh the folders until you find the attachment and paste it to where you want.

Thanks
Thanks very much, i did what you said, but the mail opton was not there, instead i found the Inbox directory and there was what i was looking for, so thanks again...

I don't know if anyone remembers the old widcomm bt versions on blueangel, but u used to be able to browse other devices and stuff, well, I'd like to be able to do this, I miss this function....
is there 3rd party software that can do this?

I don't know if anyone remembers the old widcomm bt versions on blueangel, but u used to be able to browse other devices and stuff, well, I'd like to be able to do this, I miss this function....
is there 3rd party software that can do this?

joey jojo said:
I don't know if anyone remembers the old widcomm bt versions on blueangel, but u used to be able to browse other devices and stuff, well, I'd like to be able to do this, I miss this function....
is there 3rd party software that can do this?
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something like this? http://www.silentservices.de/btCrawler.html

Browse and BT transfer data from deviceA to deviceB
I check BtCrawler it does not let you transfer files between device, what i am looking for is something like a file explorer where (once two devices are connected via BT) then one can copy files (using a fileexplorer type of interface from one location in device A to another location in Device B. Veyr easy stuff really but cannot do it anymore in Qtek 9000 WM5, whereas in my Blueangel WM2003 i used to have that exact functionlity, and i used to do it by transfering files from my Cellular camera to my PDA.

Re: Browse and BT transfer data from deviceA to deviceB
avensis said:
...what i am looking for is something like a file explorer ...
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OK, got you this time. WM5 only supports Obex-Push (trabsfering V-Cards and stuff). It currently does not support Obex-FTP which is exactly what you are looking for. Maybe some future updates from M$ will add this functionality, so I hope...
cheers

Thanks, but if you find any software that provided the " Obex-FTP" on the WM5 PDA could you please send me a message.

isnt it possible that we can update the bluetooth stack to the widcomm one?

daven said:
isnt it possible that we can update the bluetooth stack to the widcomm one?
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I'd like to know if this is possible.

Bluetooth profile.

Hi
I was rather disappointed to see the poor BT support on my newly acquired iMate JasJam.
It supports almost no BT profile
In particular OBEX (file transfer).
I found some references to some BT extension to the Microsoft BT stack, but they don't seem to work.
Any ideas if there are ways to extend the functionality of BT with this device and add some common profiles like OBEX, FTP etc?
Thanks
JY

Just wanted to start a similar thread. I was quite disappointed finding out that I can't receive e.g. a CAB file via BT! Though it sends all OK

Lurker0 said:
Just wanted to start a similar thread. I was quite disappointed finding out that I can't receive e.g. a CAB file via BT! Though it sends all OK
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Could it be because you need to turn on 'receive all incoming beams' under start>settings>connections>beams
try it. i heard that its coz of this.

Of course, this option is turned on!

Hi all,
Don't know if I'm missing something but i can send .CAB, .WAV, .MP3 etc files both from and to my SPV M3100/Laptop (or desktop).
Beam is on.
Gavin.

jyavenard said:
In particular OBEX (file transfer).
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Actually, it should work - the MS BT stack has a pretty good OBEX implementation, as has also been pointed out in several of my, related articles; for example, http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1065&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Probably it depends on firmware version... btCrawler self diag shows for me only OBEXObjectPushService, and only if that option is turned on. No OBEXFileTransferService at all.
Other services shown are not related to file transfer (audio, modem, serial ports).
Do you (who's able to receive any file) have OBEXFileTransferService on your device?

Sending files via Bluetooth

Hi folks,
I'm having some problems with my X1 and sending files from XP to it via Bluetooth. If I right click say a doc file and try to use the "send to" context menu and follow bluetooth to my X1 it starts trying to send then I get a pop up saying "The request could not be honored" and the transfer fails. This was working fine with my P1.
I have asked Google but I have not found anything of use so far. The X1 and my Thinkpad are paired etc.
Anyone seen this or know how to resolve it please?
Many thanks
Ant

you need to go into your Programs and set up "Internet Sharing" before you can share files between your computer and the Xperia.

yowsa said:
you need to go into your Programs and set up "Internet Sharing" before you can share files between your computer and the Xperia.
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Why? He's not sharing an internet connection, he is sharing files.
It took some time for my X1 and the Netbook to talk to each other, lots of pairing passcodes (just use 0000 or aaaa) and attempts to "beam" files finally got it working (although I couldn't provide exact steps).

Finally fixed this! I had to check "Receive all incoming beams" in the Bean configuration under settings for comms.
Thanks