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Hi everyone I'm new here. I would like to downgrade my bootloader from 5.17 to 5.15 but am having some problems with the Wallaby patch. First let me tell you what I'm running:
Australian O2 XDA
Rom upgraded to 4.00.01
RSU upgraded to 4.21
Protocol 32S54
Using the XDA Rom image tool I have written the Wallaby patch to a pretech 128 mb card using the 1k header and diagnostics method (I have tried the 3.5k header as well) the program reports that it was succesfull although I can't see the file under file explorer. When I start the bootloader I don't get any message about upgrading and the bootloader reports Card Key Invalid. When I exit the bootloader it Hard Resets the XDA. I have tried reverting to the XDA Developers Rom and interestingly although I get the same invalid key error on exiting the bootloader it only Soft Resets. I am waiting for a serial cable to be delivered and then will be able to upload the previous version via Hyperterminal (I Hope ?) but it would be interesting to know if anyone else has managed to do this and how they did it.
Great Site
Richard
Hi there Richard - I am also in Australia (which might be of significance too??) and am also experiencing the EXACT same problems as you!!! :shock:
I cannot get the Wallaby Bootloader (v5.17) to recognise the ROM Image (via xdarit) and provide the alternate menu options necessary to flash the bootloader?! :evil:
Is it perhaps a region specific issue that we Aussies are unlucky enough to have??
I would REALLY appreciate ANYONE who has some suggestions for Richard and I to provide an alternative means of downgrading 5.17 so that we can uninstall PPC2003 (which is way to buggy IMHO) and go back to PPC2002. Thanks in advance guys and keep up the EXCELLENT site!!!!
Hi Mike
If all you want to do is get rid of PPC2003 you could just run the developers V1.2 Rom setup (I have gone backwards and forwards a couple of times) Personaly I prefer PPC2003. I want to get back to bootloader 5.15 so that I have an alternative backup routine in case I crash the device as obviously in order to run a Program A update the device needs to be working. Having said that there is a USB flash program in the bootloader which might allow the Program A to work I just havn't been brave enough to try it yet. Any one else out there tried it ?
Richard
Hey - thanks for that info Richard - okay, so now I can in fact go back to "bog standard" PPC2002 right? Or will it still be running a non-standard ROM?
What I am worried about is that if I need to send this sucker back to Optus(?) for warranty repairs etc. then they may not be too happy to do anything under warranty if they detect that I have installed a "non-authorised" ROM upgrade (if you know what I mean)?!
So you reckon PPC2003 is okay huh? Are you with Optus or Telstra?
Last question - what is the most efficient (and straightforward) way to back up the XDA if A) I keep PPC2003 a little longer and/or B) if I go back to PPC2002? FYI - I have a 128MB SD card and reader (integrated into my Toshiba notebook as well as cradle (obviously) and the USB Sync cable.
Thanks for your help Rickard (and anyone else that cares to offer any advice) :?
Mike
The Developers Rom is based on the latest O2 UK Rom update 3.17.03 (I think) and basicaly they have crammed all sorts of software into the Rom (Survives hard reset and makes better use of the systems memory) In order to go back to standard you would need a "Asian" image (there on a previous version to UK?) which includes "local" configuerators for GPRS etc. I beleive an update is due out soon so once it is you can install this and Optus will be none the wiser.
Yea I realy like PPC2003 much nicer all round but a bit of shame that some software won't run on it. I'm planning to have a go at a "speical" Rom myself based on the 4.00.01 image.
I'm with Telstra but can't see why Optus would be any different apart from the auto configureration.
Assuming no fix for the bootloader arrives (This is by far the easiest) you can back up you're Rom via Hyperterminal you will need a serial cable to do this. By and large unless you're planning to mess around with you're system there isn't much point in doing anything other than backing up you're Ram (As apposed to Rom) with the SD card backup program included on the XDA
Richard
Someone please help!!
I downloaded the xda-developers rom unlocked the phone and now want to go back to wm2003 on my sx56, but cannot get past all the technical language in the other posts to figure out how to do it.
Would someone please let me know in the most rudimentary English possible how to do this?
Thanks a million
It's pretty easy and I just did it. I read the forums for hours before trying it to make sure I wasn't missing something...
I decided to go with the Beta 2003 Rom first... there are posts that the final ATT Rom is buggy... so I'll wait and see.
1. I installed XDA Dev Rom 3.17.03 and unlocked my SX56
2. Downloaded and installed XDA tools
3. Started the install (Programme A) of the original ATT PPC2002 Rom. It's going to unzip/install to a directory and then stop telling you that your SX56 isn't a version recognized and the process cancels.
4. Place a 64mb or bigger SD card in your reader.... or connect the SX56 via activesync to your PC with a 64mb or bigger card in the SD slot.
5. Start OSImage Tool located in the XDA folder.
6. For Source you navigate to the folder where the NK.nb1 file is... Program Files under SX56 upgrade utility.
This was the part that was confusing me.... and I mean I spent hours figuring this out since I could not find it in a post...
7. For Destinations use the drop down and choose either the XDA SD slot or your SD reader. DO NOT browse to either of these devices since it will not create a bootable SD card. Let OSImage Tool do it's thing and you now have a bootable SD.
8. Connect your XDA to power and put the SD card in the XDA and hold the power button while performing a soft reset.... you now see the install from SD menu.... install your ROM. When it is installed you perform a "hard reset" (not soft like if said before).
9. Now you can run the .exe install of WM2003 Beta or WM2003 Final. This will upgrade your radio stack. If you for some reason don't want to upgrade the stack just start with #1 and do it all over again.
I hope this helps... since it no longer makes me the newest XDA newbie. I graduate from pre-school XDA to 1st grade... only 12 more years of XDA learning to go... woohoo.
A soft reset isnt recommended after rom upgrade, you need to do a hard reset by unscrewing the stulus and poking the top part in the hole on the right hand side of the xda, wait one minute then poke it again.
oh yeah... that is what I meant... I keep thinking hard reset is moving a switch like my POS Toshiba e750.
steps to upgrade
hi, well i have xda with rom version3.17.03 and radio stack 4.21,,
i m really excited to know bout the ATT upgrade to window2003,,,
but dont know how it should be carried out.
if someone just mention the steps for it.
I cant decide which rom to upgrade to. What are other people using for o2 UK? I see some have got ver 4.01.00. Ive got 4.00.05 at the moment but would like to have TomTom in the rom so if im going to upgrade it again, might as well save some space.
To be honest Im not sure what the difference is between the versions are. I looked thorugh the posts and Im nore confused than before.
Any sugestions?
bpd3701,
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!
I have successfully upgraded, and the phone is unlocked and everything.....thanks so much.
CC
Hi, I've just recently got my self a T-Mobile MDA Vario. This is also known as Qtek 9100, Imate K-JAM, O2 XDA Mini S. The first thing I did was to find out whether there is a newer rom to upgrade to and I landed on this forum. The wiki was informative but still lacking a lot of information which only resides on this forum. After digging the forum for the whole day, here is my summary.
The first thing you do when get your phone is to SIM unlock and CID unlock your phone. SIM unlock allows you to use different service provider on your phone. CID unlock allows you to upgrade your OS rom, radio rom and extended rom. The OS rom is where the Windows Mobile OS resides at, radio rom is where it controls your GSM or CDMA radio protocol. The extended rom is where your service provider does their own customization, like adding their own software, logos etc. You can customize your own extended rom too once its unlock, like adding and removing application.
To SIM unlock and CID unlock your phone, currently I only know of 2 free programs that can do that for you. You only need to do this once since the unlocking info is stored in a different part of the memory then the roms. I must stress that CID unlock will *VOID* your warranty with your service provider.
1) The first one is lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b. This utility can SIM unlock and CID unlock. It also allows you to lock it back. Thank you very much machinagod! You can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796
If you can follow intructions its a piece of cake.
2) The second util is aWizard ROM Utils. This ultility can *ONLY* CID unlock your phone and *NOT* SIM unlock. However this tool also allows you to change the splash logo easily. It also can backup and restore your OS rom, radio rom and extended rom independently of each other. Thanks ahlok_hk! Get this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386
After you are done with the unlocking, it is advisable to backup your rom before you do anything upgrades. This is because most of the people here are on contract with their service provider. If your phone breaks and wants to send it for service, it is better to restore it to the original roms it came with otherwise they might say you have void your warranty by flashing third party roms and then you are stuffed.
I have found a few threads that deal with backing up the roms.
1) This thread explains how you can use romupdate.exe and ntrw.exe to dump raw data from the roms to your SD card. This will *WIPE* out all existing data on the SD card so becarefull. You can keep this SD card safe somewhere until you want to restore but then you won't be able to use it. You can use ntrw.exe to copy the raw binary from the SD into a file. You can then keep this file somewhere safe and then format your SD and carry on using the SD as before. To restore just use ntrw.exe to write from the restore file to the SD card and follow the instructions to restore. Thanks arnoldl!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32866
2) This method is pretty much the same as above except that it uses different programs. This uses a terminal program (terraterm) to get into the phone and use "r2sd" to dump Rom to SD. It also uses psdread and psdwrite to read and write raw data to and from the SD. This also tells you how to be able to reformat your SD after you use it to backup. Thanks Genesis3! http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
3) You can use the aWizard program to backup your roms. Follow the intructions.
4) Button is kind enough to write a program to backup all your IPL/SPL, OS rom, Radio rom and Extended rom. This program is easy to use. You will still need a SD card for this.
Read this thread for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40347
You can grab the tool from:
http://buttonwashere.narod.ru/
I think this method will backup your OS rom, Radio rom and Extended rom. I'm not sure whether it backs up your IPL and SPL. There is a bug in SPL 1.06(bootloader) *thanks Button for the hint* it will give you an error if you try to restore from the SD using the ntrw.exe/psdwrite method. The workaround is to install an older rom with SPL 1.01 such as the first Qtek Prodigy rom. Then you can restore your rom. Using the method where you backup your rom to SD and keep it there until restore is not affected. I recommend getting a 128MB SD since its relatively cheap. Its worth buying one just for rom backup.
Now that you have unlock and backup your roms. You can start flashing new roms to try out!
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard
You can find many different roms under the Roms directory. This roms usually are all in one packages from the OEM such as Qtek, I-mate, O2, T-Mobile etc. The ODM is obviously HTC. If you want localization for your language just choose a rom your language eg:- RUU_Prodigy_2080702_102_11310_QTEK_FRA_Test.exe for french.
These all in one packages comes as an executable which includes the flash program and the OS rom, Radio rom and Extended rom. Just click and install. To get your settings for your network GPRS settings, you might be able to find a *.cab file which has the settings in your original extended rom and copy over to the new extended rom. This only work for 1.x roms, read below for more info. You can get UK network operator settings here
http://www.htcclub.net/en/settings.php
It seems that the most popular roms are from Qtek and I-mate. This RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe seems to be recommended by most. This rom is the 1.x series. There is a newer 2.x series of roms just recently released which includes the AKU2. From what I understand AKU2 is like a service patch for windows. It includes DIRECT PUSH email functionality (similar to RIM's Blackberry) and AD2P which is stereo bluetooth support.
At the moment non of the final released AKU2 roms have AD2P. If you need it, the Qtek 2.x beta testing rom does include this functionality. You can find this on the ftp. Another downside to this newer roms is that the Extended rom seems to be locked and you won't be able to access it. No one has yet found a way to crack it. These newer AKU2 roms have fixed the wifi bug which showed when using WiFIFoFum wifi scanning program.
Linux
I just had a chat with the linux developers for HTC devices on irc. It seems the wizard running with the OMAP750 processor does not have enough documentation and is not well supported in the kernel yet. But the development on the HTC Universal seems to be going well. As for syncing with windows mobile 5 and linux, the synce project currently do not support WM5 yet, they just started a new mailing list for it. If you have any experience in reverse engineering please help. The only solution now for me is to install windows xp on vmware and sync from there. Then you can export your outlook as a file to be imported into your favourite Linux app. Linux cannot read the mini SD in your device, so you will need a card reader to read and write files to it.
This is what I've found out so far after spending the whole day digging the forum. I shall add them to the wiki so other ppl who don't have that much time to spare can benifit from it.
I have a few unanswered questions. What is IPL? What is SPL? I sort know its something to do with the bootloader. Does using "r2sd" backup my IPL and SPL? It not how do I backup my IPL and SPL? If I upgrade to the 2.x series roms, will I be able to restore back to the 1.x series? From what I've read, you can restore from 2.x back to 1.x but the IPL and SPL will still be 2.x, is that correct? Thanks!
Hope this helps someone. Those threads above should really be made sticky. The search never turn up what I need. I had to slow dig my way thru.
regards,
vaxen
I was considering starting a 8125 Standardization Project, much like the SX-66 Standardisation Project. I'm am just not sure I have the time.
Nice walk through BTW. You sum it up rather well :wink:
I wish you posted this 2 days ago, then I wouldn't have had to do all that digging to figure it out. It is easy once you see the BIG picture though eh?
Later; Lew
great overview. Thanks a lot !!
Really great overview! Posted the URL to my Expert Blog at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=great_tips_for_htc_wizard_users&more=1 for even more exposure.
will a 512mb minisd be enough to back up everything before flashing to a new rom?
Thank you
Excellent timing just started the process myself.
oo3: Yes, 512MB is more than enough for backing up your rom. If you use a 512MB to backup your rom and write the raw data to a file. When you restore, you need a 512MB card to write the raw data back to the card. I personally bought a 128MB card just for backing up the rom. It only cost me £10 to buy it online. Its worth the investment.
good overview.
Might be worth to put it on the wiki
One flaw: ExtROm of all ROMs 1.6.x and above are locked with no real solution yet.
For the 1.6.x roms you could try to fiddle with versions in order to (one time right) make the ExtROm you want.
For the 2.x ROMs even this is not possble until now.
The aWizard tools are said NOT to be working on the 2.16.x (final aku2) ROMs they do work on the 2.8.x (beta aku2) ROM from QTek.
At this moment buzz_lightyear is fiddling with my spl to try to get the EXTRom unlocked.
The SD backup/restore process works really well btw.... I just tried a restore of the original Cingular Rom on another demo 8125 and it turned it back into a pristine stock device.... Cingular will never know we "had our way" with so many of their demos now :twisted:
Backup Restore and Upgrade Rom!
What a summary. Thank you for your effort.
Upgrade question
I've just backed up the existing ROM on my new O2 Mini S, thanks to this wonderful post. Before I proceed to an upgrade, could someone please tell me if I should leave the SIM card inside the wizard, remove it, or it just doesn't matter during the upgrade? I'm planning to go for the O2 AKU2 rom. Thanks.
Blokade
It just doesn't matter during the upgrade
Um. The OMAP can run linux. Linux is a supported OS for the OMAP. The problem is the rest of the hardware (lcd, etc).
i SO want linux on the wizard. 4x6 font and console :d
ftp a no go
can someone please help as i can't get into the ftp via the link provided
Re: ftp a no go
This overview should updated : the latest lockwiz 3a can also do the latest Tmobile-NL ROM with IPL/SPL 2.21 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
A more detailed instruction to unlock can also be found at http://www.mdahacks.com/item/2006/6/7/unlock-your-htc-wizard-mda-8125-phone-using-lokiwiz
Does this also work for the CIngular 8525 or Dopod 838 Pro?
Does this upgrade also work for the Cingular 8525 also known in South Asia as the Dopod 838pro?
No. Look inside of the Hermes section for that device.
--eluth.
Great overview, I would hope that future visitors or registered users read through it and save themselves and others a lot of headaches. On that note any reason this isn't getting stickied?
@The SOundshark
If your running peerguardian you might want to dissable it, or if your running any other type of firewall. For the life of me I can't configure peerguardian to allow FTP access, so try that and hope it helps.
Hi Everybody,
after nearly 2 years of inactivety I am back...and with a problem-after I got to involved in business I lent my xda to a friend, he had no better idea then to put a strange rom on it.
Now to my problem. I cooked a downgrade rom 3.17, downloaded it. I used the OSImage Tool to write the file named NK.nb1 on my sd card.Hardrestetted my xda and there I am. In the wallaby bootloader. He does not ask me to upgrade from the card...nothing....
I would do it over the cradle...but that does not work because he installed some kind of se rom.
I am stuck...realy.
Could anyone be so kind and give me a hint? I looked and read the whole day in the forum...
Thank you
H
Maybe you use a Internal SD-Card Writer?
They often make problems in writing the ROM correctly on the card.
You should try an other SD-Card-Writer or try getting a functioning ROM of an other device by backup....
You can also test the process by backuping your "strange" ROM and try to reflash the backup ROM. This should work and will show you, if you really have some problems in writing the ROM to the Card....
Stefan
solved
Hi Stefan
(Dank Dir, Thema erledigt)
Problem solved. I believe it was my card writer, even 2 of them, which caused the trouble. Both of them wrote the file in a wrong format (dont ask me why)
When I read the how to once more I have seen that I can write through activesync. When I tried that it suddenly worked like a charm.
So thank you again-your hint about the writer solved the problem.
Cheers -or better- Herzlichen Dank!
H
Hello everyone!
I have a HTC Tytn with WM5, and want to update it to WM6 (or later, with perfect and stable versions)
I´ve read loads of post, and got confused with so many applications and proceedments.
This is my first time with flashing/updating with these kind of devices, and need help to update my device.
I think for me and for future reference (for other users) that a step by step tutorial would be great.
P.S - I already searched the forum, and web for a step by step procedure wih no success.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I also got a Tytn with WM5 and now I am using WM6 released by HTC and ATT officially. This official WM6 Professional room was available before Aug 2008 and after that period, ATT offical website no longer provide download service. I searched on google for a few hours and finally get an official released rom. And this rom can work by just connecting your fully battery charged Tytn via USB and execute the *exe file you downloaded. It's very easy.
My suggestion: Ask google where can you get this room downloaded. And further more. Attention suspective links. There do exists free download without requirement of some sensitive information(Credit card number, etc)
Sheitx said:
Hello everyone!
I have a HTC Tytn with WM5, and want to update it to WM6 (or later, with perfect and stable versions)
I´ve read loads of post, and got confused with so many applications and proceedments.
This is my first time with flashing/updating with these kind of devices, and need help to update my device.
I think for me and for future reference (for other users) that a step by step tutorial would be great.
P.S - I already searched the forum, and web for a step by step procedure wih no success.
Thanks in advance.
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If you've searcherd then you know to install Hard SPL V7 first... After that you can use the sd card method to install ANY Hermes rom... A quick search will give details, I know I've typed it out enough times...
Cheers....
Dear Ultramag69,
I do want to install Hard SPL V7 first, but I fail for almost every known method
to install it into my device. And I do unlock to super CID under the guide got
from this forum. I don't know why. So finally I decided to use a official release
version.
ultramag69 said:
If you've searcherd then you know to install Hard SPL V7 first... After that you can use the sd card method to install ANY Hermes rom... A quick search will give details, I know I've typed it out enough times...
Cheers....
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Go to the sticky about Hard SPL in the upgrading section, page 116, post 1160. It will tell you how to use the sd card to upgrade the SPL. Just remember that you need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 or it won't work...
Thanks I'll try. But before that I am interested that whether the upgrade for Hermes from WM6 to WM6.5 would save me memory for running programms? The problem I am facing is that after I open WIFI and Palringo I will use 70% memory. When I open Google Map, then it eats 87% of memory. Can upgrade to un official WM6.5 help me solve this problem, or in reverse, latest system requires more memory?
ultramag69 said:
Go to the sticky about Hard SPL in the upgrading section, page 116, post 1160. It will tell you how to use the sd card to upgrade the SPL. Just remember that you need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 or it won't work...
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Look for app called x-button, it closes apps instead of minimizing them...
ultramag69 said:
Look for app called x-button, it closes apps instead of minimizing them...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use HTC Task Manager and it also offers Close "X" button for all running Apps. But I want remove some ATT software encored in my windows mobile system, such as ATT Music, Mobile TV, Cellular Video...etc. Is there anyway I can move them without re flash my rom with 3rd party rom?
NO.........
Done [But, Can't Detect Memory Card]
Hello!
There's actually a link in XDA for the W.M 6.5 ROM.
Works perfect with TYTN, although i still have the memory card detection problem.
It says that it's not installed.
About the WM 6.5;
Since this equipment is a little bit slow; i added a few apps so the equipment can run faster (due to the new ROM consumes a little more memmory than the original WM. --> WM5.1).
[Performance Apps]
"Speedboost"
"Advanced Config"
I find those very usefull and you can actually "see" the diference; if you configure them well.
Memory Card NOT Working...
Hello.
By now i think i've read everything about this problem; and still can't access the memory card.
Although i found a method to figure where the problem is.
I opened the camera app; and reinserted the memory card; then a message appears asking if you desire to save the photos in the memory card.
So it means that the SD Slot; the memory card; are working.
Also seems that WM6.5 v2 (from "FCW") detects it somehow... But i can't open access the memory card in anyway.
I tryed these SDBus Updates: (but no success)
- AX3L 3.1.2c SDHC DLL's
- HTC SDHC Settings
- MiniSD HC Patch v2.2
- SDBUS
- SDHC
I'm going to install the v3 version now.
I'll report in a while.
WM 6.5 v3 (FCW)
No use; i can't find out...
Tryed everything and can't get it working.
The v3 works awsome; but didn't fix the problem.
It detects with the "Camera Method" but i can't use/explore the memory card. Also if i go into the "memory" app it says memory card not installed.
Any idead on what i'm doing wrong?
Yeah, me too !
I still cannot access my sd card in tytn at WM6.5 until now...
I wonder if HardSPL v.7 will works...
Greetings;
Awww... I was digging my old threads to make them more usefull, clean and clear.
Yes HARDSPL worked great!
By this time i'm proud to say that my HTC died.
Anyways; if anyone has troubles with SD Card; try to install the ROM; without the SD Card in the device. That shall do the trick. I remember that was my issue. Hope it helps.
Best Regards;