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unlocking software licensing restrictions

is it true that xda2 has very strict restrictions on wat is allowed to be installed on it?
if so is it then possible to unlock that feature so i can write my own c programs for it?
maybe even write a new browser that has jvm say ?
Dave

No. You can write and install whatever you like. Where did you hear that rumour?
Surur

Dave,
So youre a programmer.
I am still looking for someone who can contribute the following software to this community:
Today pluging that makes ot possible to toggle Bluetooth & TomTom GPS being switched on / off. If youre interested, let me know, I can supply you with more exact specs. It seeems to me quite simple: just reading / updating some registry values.

programming
sure ill give it a go.
email me with specs and sourcecode
[email protected]
this would be my first xda2 programming experience tho, so it ight take me a little while to get fammiliar with xda2 programming first. im mostly a pc proammer good in c++ and opengl graphics, however im fast learner.

there are enoug forums for PPC programmers where u can read how to modify registry:
www.devbuzz.com
www.pocketpcdn.com
amd of course www.msdn.com
etc

flashing the phone rom what does that do for u practicaly?

flashing the phone rom what does that do for u practicaly?

flashing means to upgrade the s/w (firmware) that is stored in (flash) "rom".
Normally you only flash the device when
- You suffer from bugs in the old'rom
- The new rom has specific benefits
There are 3 types of rom on the device that can be flashed:
OS- the operating system
Phone (aka Radio)- the gsm/gprs radio functionality
ExtendedROM- add-on and customisation s/w (usually put together by the service operator)

Flashing the rom on the xda 1 since the developers got their hands on it is a whole new ball game, they discovered that the autoconfig program was taking up acres of space and wasnt really needed, there was also some unused space. They devised a way of writing complete programs to this space and my xda has numerous programs in rom that would normally be taking up precious ram when installed. These guys are brilliant in adding value and funcionality to a brilliant device.

Copying Rom & Reloading onto another device

Hi,
I am currently looking into purchasing 750 XDAIIi Devices from o2. (after o2 release the new firmware version hopefully next week to solve the battery problem and release the blackberry client)
However, I will need to configure each device with a set of custom in house applications, and set it up in a certain way.
The easiest way i can think to do this is to get 1 device how i want all of them, then to take a copy of the rom, and to copy that rom to all the other devices.
What utilitys are available to do this? Ive so far found tools to copy the rom from the device, however im stumpted on how to re-flash the rom with the copied version.
any help/sugestions etc greatly welcome!
Thanks in advance,
Noodle.

Noodleman said:
Hi,
I am currently looking into purchasing 750 XDAIIi Devices from o2. (after o2 release the new firmware version hopefully next week to solve the battery problem and release the blackberry client)
However, I will need to configure each device with a set of custom in house applications, and set it up in a certain way.
The easiest way i can think to do this is to get 1 device how i want all of them, then to take a copy of the rom, and to copy that rom to all the other devices.
What utilitys are available to do this? Ive so far found tools to copy the rom from the device, however im stumpted on how to re-flash the rom with the copied version.
any help/sugestions etc greatly welcome!
Thanks in advance,
Noodle.
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What you need is SPB Clone great little app but expensive for my uses with you buying so many I guess it would prove affordable
http://microsoft.handango.com/Platf...ype=2&productId=150895&sectionId=0&catalog=1&
More info at the link above or
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en

Ah great info there, thanks.
However it says its compatible with the XDA, XDAII and XDAIIs, not the XDAIIi.
Its exactly what im looking for though

Noodleman said:
Ah great info there, thanks.
However it says its compatible with the XDA, XDAII and XDAIIs, not the XDAIIi.
Its exactly what im looking for though
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I'm sure you will find it does the XDA IIi drop SPB a mail and I guess they will confirm that!

The demo works on the XDAIIi so i think its time to spend some mulleh
:mrgreen:
This could save me a long long time

Re: SPB Clone
Noodleman said:
The demo works on the XDAIIi so i think its time to spend some mulleh
:mrgreen:
This could save me a long long time
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Thats good news please tell us all how you found the app a nice little review would be good!

Sure.
I think firstly i will explain the situation i have, then it might make things clearer.
I could possibly have 750 XDAIIi devices, and 750 Bluetooth printers within the next 2-3 months.
This is to be used for a mobile, in house application. I am currently looking for a quick, and easy method to setup all of the devices.
I currently have a mangement solution, using Mobi Control. Its a VERY VERY good piece of software, and the new version is out next week which will offer some SERIOUSLY good features such as device lock down etc.
The issue i have is that the XDAIIi will require a certain config before I install the Mobi Control Client. (certain bluetooth settings and application settings)
So, for my base device, i have installed the Mobi Control client (removed from cradle before it is named by the mobi control server) , and also setup the relavent bluetooth settings etc. I have also tweeked some device settings to help out the battery life, and also changed things like the mappings of the buttons.
Then i used the SPB clone tool. I installed it onto the device and ran it. The wizard is easy, it has about 3 steps. The first step is to choose where you would like to save to. I chose the SD card, however you can also use ro storage.
Then, you can choose to password encrypt your device, and also choose if you want to copy the storage area of the device. Then, is builds your image.
The image takes about 5 mins to build to the SD card. and its done.
Now all you need to do is to drop the SD card into another device, it auto runs the wizard and will build the device EXACTLY the same as the master device. It will prompt you for the current time, as the time of the master device is also in the image.
This is a great solution for me, because all i need to do with each new device, is drop it into a cradle for 2 mins at most. The mobi control server auto names the device with my naming scheme, and then installs and configures our in house applications.
So intsead of it looking likes it going to take me about a month to build all the devices, i might be able to do them in a few days.
Thanks for the recoendation of that application

noob needs some help (long... yawn)

I am sorry that the title is so general but I really do need lots of help with my wizard and don't know where to start.
I have had the thing since xmas and have not used it for a single day ! it was an impulse buy and probably a mistake. I realise that now but I'm stuck with a 12 month contract so might as well try and use it.:roll:
I work a 12 hour day and simply do not have the time to experiment and play with it. I need someone who has considerable experience with the o2 mini s and is able to explain how to set it up properly and use it effectively and has both the ability and patience to explain it to me. I am happy to pay for this as I see it like any other service which we pay for. I do not expect help for nothing.
Is there anyone prepared to help me with this ?
first I would like to know how I can change and improve my desktop.
second I would like to know how I install TomTom
thanks
Nick
peanut

Long yawn answered with enthusiasm
Firstly I have an xdaII + 2i and i'm pretty good with pc's, but there are some glaring holes in my knowledge.
My brother has the phone you have, and on his I have installed ttn5 and stripped the rom back so that the phone works much faster.
There's an awful lot of reading for you to do, so seen as i can prob not help much on this forum i'd be glad to help customise and suggest tools and s/w for your ppc up for you so that you'll find it at least fun and maybe use it.

I am currently on my 4th iteration of a Pocket PC phone. I started out way back with an Ipaq 3650 with a softphone, migrated to the 1st T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone (Wallaby, XDA, ect.), spent a year with the Ipaq H6315, and have now been using the new T-Mobile MDA USA (Wizard).
When I had the original XDA (Wallaby), got lured into the "Fix it 'til it breaks" addiction by this site. The "ROM Kitchen" was just too inticing to resist. That first generation platform in its factory state left much to be desired and the enhancements created by this forum and it's members greatly improved the user expierience of those devices.
Now that I have skipped the XDA II, III, and IV devices and all of the jargin associated with these newer generations of this platform and are now using the Wizard, I find myself relegated back to "Noowbie" status with regard to my knowledge of how, when, & why to upgrade my new device.
The usefulness of this forum and the many contributions of its members have contributed to the dificulty in extracting the information one may be looking for. There is simply so much information here to sift through.
I too find it hard to find the time required to assimilate all of the data here.
My device is in it's stock configuration with the exception that I have run the Lockwiz unlocking program. Until I can get my head around what these varius other rom images will do for me, I am going to use the device as it is now, which is a quantum leap in usability compared to the other devices I have been using for the past 4 years.
It probably already exists, ( although burried in countless 30 page threads) but perhaps a sticky Noowbie section that will help us that are time challanged so that we can someday increase our usefulness to this forum.
:idea:

A problem with your question about your desktop is there is more than one answer.
My answer is to use:
*Wisbar Advanced
--Close apps (you can define exceptions)
--Define a top bar theme
--Define top bar buttons and multiple actions for each
--Show running task icons on top bar
*Wisbar Advanced Desktop plugin
--Define multiple "virtual" taoday screens
--Place shortcuts, buttons and even links to place a phone call on any desktop
--More themes
--Pin items that can be available on all virtual pages
*Pocket Breeze
--A great way to see all PIM items (calendar, task, etc).
--Allows other today plugins to be used in tabs
*Pocket Weather as a tab in Pocket Breeze
*Pocket Alarm
--This does lots of things in addition to phone profiles and includes a today plugin
*SPB Backup and its today plugin
*The SearchToday plugin borrowed from the Treo 700
There is just so much you can do and it has taken quite a while to evolve to this for me. And sometimes I change it
To get the most out of it, you will just need to budget some time.

Wow thanks for the replies everyone.
Phoneguy glad to see that I am not the only one with insufficient time to assimilate all this new technology. So much & so little time ...
Thank you for your offers of help. Perhaps I should make a list of what I would like to do with the mini s and start from there. I'll do that tonight. Perhaps any readers would make some suggestions as to what I can do to make the ppc a more friendly interface

Newbie seeks guideance on add on apps

Greetings,
I am new to the world of mobile computing and am looking for some guidance on choosing apps to load to my new Sprint mogul ppc6800. I have recently upgraded to the sprint released 2.17 ROM. I have factory installed IE 6.0 In searching the net there seems to be lots of reference and apps for WM3. Will most apps designed for WM 3 run on the WM6 platform?
One program I looked at listed three different versions for different processors.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sudoku-ppc.html
I believe this unit has a Qualcomm. Which would be most appropriate or should I just stay away form the stuff designed for WM3?
A second program I am looking at is MS Voice Command. In searching the archives here, there seems to be enough support for me to get that to work if I decide on it, but are there other, better programs which will allow me to work hands free?
Thanks
Dan

yes most work even wm2000 apps will run on wm6
and your qualcom is arm based

My must have software
Voice command Is a very good program, for hands free simple to set up and use, mic volume and outside noise conditions can effect the performance.
Consider lokking at these
spb back up. A good back up program
spb Phone suite. Today plug in for you phone and contacts.
Spb pocket plus, today plug in and task manager.
Their are so many programs out their, and everybody has different syle, but these are the most suggested
Good luck

DLobster said:
Greetings,
I am new to the world of mobile computing and am looking for some guidance on choosing apps to load to my new Sprint mogul ppc6800. I have recently upgraded to the sprint released 2.17 ROM. I have factory installed IE 6.0 In searching the net there seems to be lots of reference and apps for WM3. Will most apps designed for WM 3 run on the WM6 platform?
One program I looked at listed three different versions for different processors.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sudoku-ppc.html
I believe this unit has a Qualcomm. Which would be most appropriate or should I just stay away form the stuff designed for WM3?
A second program I am looking at is MS Voice Command. In searching the archives here, there seems to be enough support for me to get that to work if I decide on it, but are there other, better programs which will allow me to work hands free?
Thanks
Dan
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The best guidance is to read the forums, here and at the other sites. Pay particular attention to problems others have with the apps you research and the fixes for those problems. Also see how many users have uninstalled the apps due to problems.
Asking for opinions on what apps to install is like asking, "I want to buy a car. What should I get?" You will get a myriad of answers, mostly based on what works for the person answering. However, the question cannot properly be answered without knowing what YOUR needs are, what YOUR level of proficiency is related to computers, what YOUR ability is to live with side effects of the apps you load...in other words, only YOU can decide which apps are best for you, based on research into other's experiences, viewed through your perspective.
One suggestion based on my experience...find a backup method and back the device up as often as you can...for example, I back up daily to the SD card and back up the SD card weekly to my computer.

Thanks all for the insights to my processor and the suggestions. Back up is next.
Dan

Windows Mobile 5 Replace one character in ROM? Reward $1000

Edited: Contact mod.

For $1k I'd buy JTAG and do it . And keep the rest (RIFF BOX is 119€ and a bit of soldering/getting board for another 10€ to avoid soldering).

Haha, this reward smells like scam

mysymbol said:
Hello
Can someone tell me if it posible to replace/change just one character in Rom in Windows Mobile 5 Device, knowing where it is (memory address)
Device is not listed anywhere on this forum, and really it does not matter, since it runs Windows Mobile 5 and I can connect to it with ActiveSync (USB or Serial)
Willing to pay $1000 for solution.
Honestly, will paypal the money to someone that can help
Thanks
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Why would you pay $1000 for a solution for a Windows Mobile 5 phone when you can get a Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5/WP7 phone for HALF the price.

Response to your concerns
This is not a Mobile Phone and I do not have one but several thousands of these in my posetion. Again this device is very rare and you will not find it anywhere. Solution to my problem can be used over and over again.
Simply its just like a phone running Windows Mobile 5 and I just need to change few lines of memory addresses in ROM. Please help.
For those that think its a scam, fine, I will offer $10 for solution, but for someone that can believe I will paypal $1000 instantly upon working solution.

I would agree with JTAG but I have several thousands of these in my hand and I need faster solution. Please help. I can run any files, commands for you on my device and provide results. Thanks again

You might want to try also itsutils's app "pdocwrite", that might do the job too. Or psetmem, if it is in RAM and not ROM.

wouldnt Jtag be just as quick as connecting a phone to a computer... booting into the rom, changing code etc etc etc? over and over and over again?
That said... Your best bet is to send one of these "devices" to a developer on here who can take the rom and make the changes that need to be done and make a custom rom for you.
Thats my two cents!

You are a little silent on the details of what you want to change in the device. There is hardly a universal solution for the task you have sketched. Let me outline the levels of security that have to be passed:
Running programs e.g. for manipulating memory (RAM or ROM) may in the first place be restricted by OS security (policy). This must be overcome and is also know as "Application Unlocking" of the device.
Some files on a device can simply be replaced by RAM copies and those will take the function of the ROM part after copied to the device and a subsequent reboot.
If really the ROM itself must be changed (as 2. does not work) then you have to be able to read out the ROM, dis- and re- assemble its parts (aka "cooking") and finally load back the results to the device. Several security mechanisms are in place for devices to ensure that only the legitimate authorities can do this.
Thanks to joint efforts et XDA-developers many popular devices could be hacked at that level to foster the popular cooking activities.
So if you give some more hints on what character you want to have changed and where you see it (but want to see a different one) then even other options may come up, e.g. changing data in the databases that are use for translating user interface parts (control panel), other data-driven options (e.g. registry) and so on.
So in the end there may be a much simpler solution to your problem that you thought about so far?

are these some chinese knockoff model and you need to change something to sell them on without non chinese people having problems? i would help but got rid of my chinese to english rom hardware last year

reward still availble
can someone help? I can read files from ROM, but how to write back? utility is there but its uncompiled.

I don't think you've made enough threads on this issue. I think you should post 5,6,7 maybe even 8 more and see if someone responds...

what device are u meaning to change?

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