Please Help(What is the difrent between Pocket PC & Palm - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

How r u my new frinds ???
My teacher ask me home work about the diffrent between Pocket PC & Palm OS??
or any Opreating System for mobiles......
please help meeeeeee

http://aspen.ucs.indiana.edu/collabtools/extras/MobileDevices.html
Click on the link and you should find all the information you need.

The main difference between the two is that Pocket PC is multitasking (you can run multiple programs at the same time) while Palm OS is not. But the next version of Palm OS will be multitasking. It's funny how Palm previously said the Pocket PC features (color, multitasking, fast CPU, etc.) are not needed and then later add those same features to Palm OS.

well in defence of palm then batt's are becomming better and
things like colour tft and .....
require less power then they used to
i see pocketpc as a pc which fit in your pocket (not shirt pocket though )
and palm as a eletronic calander / time manager. ... . . ..
a pocketpc is overkill for many people who just need a eletronic time manager

PLEASE I want the diffrence between the opraeting system of Pocket PC & Palm OS??
I am SORRY

Go search on google, we arent here to do your homework, what did you expect? a written up essay or something?

Jargon said:
The main difference between the two is that Pocket PC is multitasking (you can run multiple programs at the same time) while Palm OS is not. But the next version of Palm OS will be multitasking. It's funny how Palm previously said the Pocket PC features (color, multitasking, fast CPU, etc.) are not needed and then later add those same features to Palm OS.
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It turns out that the next version of Palm OS will not be a true multitasking OS. Instead, it will use the task-swapping method, and only if a program is written specifically for task-swapping. So the next version of Palm OS still won't be able to run multiple processes at the same time.

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Requesting software like wisbar

Hello,
i heard from a friend that he knows a pocket pc software.. that u can make ur pocket like real windows xp. the theme ofcourse.. should look like.. this
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?i...mages?q=pocket+pc+xp+theme&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=
does anybody know.. the names of this software that can do for pocket pc.. this above link is for palmos.
but he doesnt remember the name anymore.. i hinted him many software like wisbar.. none of them were right.. maybe u guys can help me to fill in the names of all wisbar alook like.
That is clearly WisBar Advance Desktop. Take a look at the few screen shot / today thread, they have the exact (or rather similar) screen shot.
nope..
wisbar cant be..
1. its a graphic design company that released that.
2. my friend says.. wisbar aint.
3. it comes with softreset, hardreset, shutdown etc. wisbar aint.. u have to install separately..
hi i found this software Shutdown (Windows XP Style)
Shutdown (Windows XP Style) enhances your PocketPC with an XP-style shutdown screen. It includes a shortcut in the start menu and can be used to perform a soft-reset without having to use the reset button.
or
PocketWin is a new kind of Pocket PC launcher that is intended to completely replace your Today screen. It features a sleek design and a Windows-like interface. PocketWin is made with Macromedia Flash and requires Flash Player 6 for Pocket PC installed. What makes PocketWin different from other program launchers is it's extreme flexibility. You might compare PocketWin to a set of Lego pieces that you yourself can add up to build that very thing you've always dreamed of. With it's extended plugin capability there are virtually no limits to what can be accomplished with PocketWin. The new update provides a number of new features and interface improvements that will put all other launchers to shame!
Please visit our website to read about PocketWin's exciting features.
The latest update has the following set of new features:
Full WM2003 compatibility!
Requires only Flash Player to run, no need for extra software such as Flash Assist or eVB libraries!
Free skins that support animation and transparency effects (two free skins included!)
Create your own skins with our SDK (Skin Developer Kit) *soon to be released
Browse for files - no more inputting by hand
Create unlimited number of folders to arrange your shortcuts more efficiently
New interface elements, such as improved Windows XP like start menu and control panel
Shut down and restart your Pocket PC - XP style!
Requires only 800kb of storage memory
Plus MUCH more!!!!
im talking about a software like wisbar.. which includes shutdown, softreset, hardreset etc.. its INCLUDED.
and beside.. if u look clearly.. the wisbar windows xp are nothing compared to the link i showed.. first of all.. start is at the bottom. and there are alot ****s.. that u dont find in wisbar.. if u look close to that site.
for pocketwin.. i gotta check it out.
I think what you have is the iSpin Launcher which is a Palm OS program, not for Pocket PC. That's as far as I can read, I can't read Thai, sorry.
What about this:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/experience.shtml
A little program called eXPerience. Never tried it. Could this be it?
helterskelter..
i asked my friend. yes thats it.. thanks alot man..
pocketwin looks alike.. but its far from experience.
hi just install pocketwin on my spv m500 i did not like it was making my pocket pc slow so i uninstall it and now my sound it not working try to turn the sound up but i gose back to the bottom agine any body i need your help thanks
use experience.. its alot better

How can you add icons to the today screen?

Hi,
I have been using my vario II since December and intend to get rid of it when i can upgrade as windows mobile is really poor. I mean windows is bad enough on a pc let alone a phone!
Anyhow i just want to do something really simple, I would like to add large icons to my today screen for some programs i use a lot like IE and Salling clicker (so i dont have to keep going ot start). Am I missing something really basic or do i have to go through a load of tweaks to do it.
This is why windows mobile is so poor becuase it shouldnt be this difficult to do something basic.
Thanks
WM itself cannot do that. You'll need to install some other software. Try cLaunch.. if you are more adverturous try rlToday.
that is why i hate windows mobile, its not user friendly at all. I mean i just want to add some icons to my today screen, the problem with windows mobile it may offer extra features but its at the expense of ease of use.
e.g. phone profiles, silent etc if i want to activate them on a nokia i just press the on-off button
never mind, i knew what i was getting into when i bought a windows mobile device, when my upgrade comes around i will just get a normal phone and use the vario II as a bluetooth remote control.
Well, you may want to try using the SmartKey, which takes the left key, if you were to press and hold it, it will open the 'Start Menu', and using your D-pad, it is easy enough to open programs.
As for phone profiles, you can press and hold your 'Communication manager' button and it will go into silent mode. If rather than having 2 phone, you may want to try other programs like.. er.. the.. SPB Shell, that makes WM phone looks like normal phone.
to be fair i know i know how to use the phone, i mean all i want to do is change the icons on the today screen so i can just tap on them and load them! I mean its all well and good having 100s of functions but if you cant access them easily what is the point?
I really think people are crying out for devices which are easy to use and ready to go our of the box, not one where you have to make endless tweaks! Windows mobile is certainly not that, perhaps the new iphone will make a difference.
Well, for one thing, WM device has this 'Today' screen which is one of the unique thing that, other devices (e.g. Palm, iPhone) doesn't have. From my point of view and my usage pattern, I'd much prefer the Today screen than a launch pad.
SPB pocket plus or Mobile Shell will let you add icons to your today screen
hi thanks
i have downloaded spb pocket plus and it has allowed me to add the icons, can you just tell me what is better the shell or pocket plus and what are the drawbacks of pocket plus ? it reminds me of norton i.e. it has a massive footprint and wants to take over your whole system! I have tried to reduce it as much as i can.
I used the gprs monitor a few months back and it slowed my system and effected battery life.
thanks for your help though
cLaunch is less fancy, and small. . and free.
HTC home pluginn
The HTC home plugins (the one from the touch and the one from Kaiser) are not exactly what you are looking for but also can help you.
Those plugins change your today screen and add a TAB where you can put 9 favorite applications and launch them by a simple click on the screen, also gives you a contact tab that is usefull ...you can search for those pluggins in the WM6 section... for me it has worked fine.
Regards
the HTC home plug in is god awful ugly tho.
I thought the HTC Home plug was beautiful. I like the new one even more that has a tab for photo contacts! However, I don't use it on my phone because it seems to make everything take twice as long. Uninstalled it and my phone was zippy again. I use SPB Pocket Plus for icons on today screen and SPB Photo Suite for contacts on the today screen.
chaz_redux said:
to be fair i know i know how to use the phone, i mean all i want to do is change the icons on the today screen so i can just tap on them and load them! I mean its all well and good having 100s of functions but if you cant access them easily what is the point?
I really think people are crying out for devices which are easy to use and ready to go our of the box, not one where you have to make endless tweaks! Windows mobile is certainly not that, perhaps the new iphone will make a difference.
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keep in mind that even with the advanced amount of funtions, they need to be organized somehow.
You also may want to look into PHM Tray Launch. You can have smaller icons placed in the system tray so access your favorite applications. (PM me if u want it, I can't upload it cause of the file extension)

SPB Mobile Shell & SPB Pocket Plus?

I just got a Sprint Mogul, and I was wondering what the difference was between these two. Should I be using one or the other, or are they made to be used together? I'm fairly new to this, so I'm not quite sure which one I should buy, or if I should be buying both.
Thanks!
I have just the mobile shell, and it severely rocks. Well worth every penny. I tip my hat to the SPB folks.
mobile shell is just that, a shell, adds a nice finger-friendly interface (i found it to be a bit of a ram hog, which sucks with only 64mb)
pocket plus is more of a utility program, it adds functionality to file explorer, PIE, gives you additional button mappings, option to make the close button actually close apps, and safe mode (very useful if you like tinkering with stuff)
they can be used together, or separately (like most SPB apps they integrate seemlessly with eachother) its just a matter of deciding what you want to be able to do
If you go on the site, or somewhere, I forget, it shows the different features of the two to show you why you should buy both, in a checklist format. The only similarity in the two, is they both have a tabbed today plugin. If you had to decide between the two, go with Pocket Plus, it adds the perfect pieces to WM.
Found the page:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3941
I have pocket plus and have tried mobile shell. Personally, I didn't care for shell. I believe you can still download and try them both. Do that then decide if you want to buy any of them.
I used shell and phone suite and i have pocket plus but i don't think i like it as much. the one thing that I love is pocket plus and shell is when you lock it you can unlock using the bottom soft key which makes more sense i think. You can download 15 day demos and test it out but I took them all off because they do seem to leak memory.
The only programs I had was shell phone suite and live search and i'd get down to 3500kb in like 8 hours so I had to wipe it and have stock 3.1.2 with nothing added and it's a lot faster.
For those of you who have used BOTH, would you please comment on the value of using MS and P+ together, and specifically HOW you use them together?
I own P+ and have used it extensively on my HX4700. So I realize it has many utilities, like the browser extension and whatnot. The key reason I liked it was because when I used it on my PDA in a car mount, I could make the icons bigger (like TomTom and Contacts) so when I'm driving, I wouldn't crash.
But I'm having a hard time understanding why you'd want both. If you don't need the additional functionality in PIE (because I use NetFront), if you don't need the button mappings, and since there's a very finger-friendly task manager in MS already, I just have a hard time seeing the sense of installing MS and P+ together.
It seems to me that MS is the far better tool for a phone, which will be used mostly by fingers, where P+ seems to be more geared to a stylus and "power users". Therefore I'm inclined to think this is the way to go for me, despite the fact I already own a license of P+.
For those of you who are using both, would you please talk about why, and what value you find in Pocket Plus vs. Mobile Shell? Maybe I'm missing something.
Thanks!
I have used both, and find that a better combination is actually Mobile Shell and Phone Suite (another SPB program). That is the perfect combination for easy touch access to most frequently needed items all displayed very tidily on the today screen. Backlight, photo-speed dial, alarms, weather, missed calls, voicemail, texts, emails, comms manager, and ringer profiles are all neatly shown in just the top third of the screen. I should try to get a screenshot of mine...
Pocket Plus I found very useful for my Dell Axim, which was just a pocket pc, not a phone. Of course, I did a whole lot more with the Axim, and it was much faster and had a lot more RAM than a Titan. Pocket Plus has good features, but I think it has too much unnecessary stuff for a pocket pc phone, especially one short on RAM like the titan.
Hope that helps
Heinous said:
I have used both, and find that a better combination is actually Mobile Shell and Phone Suite (another SPB program).
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Thanks for the feedback. I did install the trial version, but found that again, it simply duplicated the utility of what Mobile Shell already gives us. I found that all it did was to pull some features away from Mobile Shell and put it on the Today screen. I think what would make more sense for me is to do away with the 'Today' screen altogether, in favor of using Mobile Shell alone. Is there any way to do that?
Heinous said:
Pocket Plus I found very useful for my Dell Axim, which was just a pocket pc, not a phone. Of course, I did a whole lot more with the Axim, and it was much faster and had a lot more RAM than a Titan. Pocket Plus has good features, but I think it has too much unnecessary stuff for a pocket pc phone, especially one short on RAM like the titan.
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Interesting. Like you, I've owned an HX4700 and found PocketPlus indispensible. But, by and large, I used it primarily to make my most frequently used programs easily accessible. One screen was named 'Car' and the icons were BIG so that when it was in my car cradle, I could navigate. But I don't find that the TyTN has less memory than my HX4700, though, so far as I can remember, and I find it to actually run faster in real use.
I think I'm coming down to trying to figure out what to do with the default 'Today' screen. It seems to have no value when used with Mobile Shell.
I'd appreciate hearing ideas on what aftermarket plug-ins I can put there that actually have value, or how to get Mobile Shell to take the place of the default Today screen.
Thanks!
I use both P+ and MS. The Today plugins are disabled for both, and I limit the today screen to Messages, Tasks, and Calender entries.
For P+ I use the Pie extensions, file browser, X Button, and File Manager improvements. MS handles the actual phone usage.
They do overlap a bit but I find that having both is a great utility

run WM in iphone, Android in PPC???

Is that possible to run WM in an iPhone.
Or run Android in a PPC?
I mean directly flash the ROM into iPhone or PPC.
Not like "running android on Kaiser"
Could anyone do this kind of "transplan"?
We should have a sub forum discuss about it, that make WM, and PPC more fun with it.
People are trying to make andriod to work in emulators on top of windows mobile first because they want it to be stable.
When everything is working stable, developers could look into flashing a andriod rom with andriod bootloader onto a device.
For now it is more important to get everything to work properly.
and about the iPhone.. we still dont know wether its fake or not.. its just a rurmor.. the developer promised it to be released by jan.. till then wait for jan..
i think WM on iphone is fake.............
there are very rare chances of that happenning.......
WM on iphone
there is WM on iphone, Norwegian developer did it,
http://5x5m.com/lp/277/windowsmobile.html
is it going to be freeware???????
i would seriously think about getting an i phone then........
Why would somebody want to have WM on a device which can't be used with stylus?
At the start, I knew that there was something fishy about it. Look at the phone, the bootloader is too "friendly" to be a beta.
hskeik said:
there is WM on iphone, Norwegian developer did it,
http://5x5m.com/lp/277/windowsmobile.html
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"Okay, looks like we (I, the bloggers, the Internet, the Windows Mobile users) were "too excited" (?) by running Windows Mobile on iPhone hardware. As it turned out (thanks for the comments and E-Mails), the video and the whole story above is a hoax and part of a viral marketing campaign from Sonic Emotion, a maker of surround-sound systems for PCs, handhelds and other things that need surround sound." - Source
There is already Android on PPC. I have it installed on my phone.
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-cab-file-for-automatic-install
wud_e said:
There is already Android on PPC. I have it installed on my phone.
http://www.myhtcphone.com/downloads/14-files/3-cab-file-for-automatic-install
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yes, but it doesnt work very well
I think everybody should now, that there is a "working" androit for windows mobile based devices...
I'm definitely going to try it once its bootable as a seperate OS.
I'm sure the peeps at XDA are going to be successful in porting it on to ppc aswell, so I'm just patiently waiting.
Akshay
There is already android on msm 7200 Chipsets like the Kaiser or Vouge
And it's not an Emulator and run on the ROM.
But you must load the Bootloader "HaRET" on Windows, and after that, Windows mobile is quitted
also, windows mobile is working on iphone wich lags realy
Say WM is flashed onto iPhone somehow. But as Parg said it can't be controlled by stylus. And there is no Dpad, then some application can not be used with that hardware.
Indeed, it makes much more sense to get a Diamond instead of trying to flash WM on iPhone.
Additional to the hardware troubles (stylus, unsupported multitouch, ...), there would be license troubles. Guess you don't want to pay MS for WM on iPhone, even if that was possible, right?
Android, or at least a compatible system, should be possible for every device (at least in theory). However, if I buyed a device including a WM license, I'd prefer a good emulator (or rather VM, similar to the J2ME VMs which allow to use Opera Mini). That way, both WM and Android programs would run fine. OK, bad chance to modifiy the main system interface (start menu + Today screen), but I like the plugin concept of the Today screen anyway...
bobosky520 said:
Is that possible to run WM in an iPhone.
Or run Android in a PPC?
I mean directly flash the ROM into iPhone or PPC.
Not like "running android on Kaiser"
Could anyone do this kind of "transplan"?
We should have a sub forum discuss about it, that make WM, and PPC more fun with it.
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iphone? whats that? wasnt it a fad fashion accessory from last year that claimed to be a tech revolution in, well, in, I dont know? lets see, its not a smart phone, not a PPC, not a Symbian, its more a feature phone containing a proprietary operating system with very limited 3rd party support apps and interface.
Why would such a great device want WM running on it? oh yeah I know, it sux and its boring UI would eventually drive you nuts for lack of customization and limitation of available "decent" apps! hahahahhahhahha It'll never run M2D or some of the other awesome skinnable applications or any Linux OS etc, Its just WacOSX and doesnt even provide onboard bluetooth with A2DP holly crap even my 5 year old piece of junk Symbian supports A2DP, in a few months WM devices will be released with Bluetooth v2.1 (700kbps) and soon version 3 speeds up to 480Mbps. carried away sorry
Klael said:
Say WM is flashed onto iPhone somehow. But as Parg said it can't be controlled by stylus. And there is no Dpad, then some application can not be used with that hardware.
Indeed, it makes much more sense to get a Diamond instead of trying to flash WM on iPhone.
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Dpad is not essential for PPC,
usually, apps can direct operate by touching the screen.
the only problem is games, a lot of games have to use dpad as controller.
Mort said:
Additional to the hardware troubles (stylus, unsupported multitouch, ...), there would be license troubles. Guess you don't want to pay MS for WM on iPhone, even if that was possible, right?
Android, or at least a compatible system, should be possible for every device (at least in theory). However, if I buyed a device including a WM license, I'd prefer a good emulator (or rather VM, similar to the J2ME VMs which allow to use Opera Mini). That way, both WM and Android programs would run fine. OK, bad chance to modifiy the main system interface (start menu + Today screen), but I like the plugin concept of the Today screen anyway...
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iphone hardware is not a big problem,
as long as iphone is one device, no matter how many people are study on it, it is one device.
Android on PPC is a problem, there are so many different PPC, which one should we study on?
License is not necessary, Hacking, of course, is not legally with license.

Can my laptop run Windows 8?

Acer Aspire 5552
-AMD Athlon II X2 P320 processor 2.1 Ghz
-ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
-4 GB DDR3 Memory
-500 GB HDD
-1366x768 HD LCD
1: Will this laptop run Windows 8 with all available options, such as splitting apps and all?
2: Running the upgrade assistant, it says secure boot isn't supported on my system. Is this a worry?
3: If I upgrade, will I keep all my programs and documents?
4: Is iTunes, Skype, Steam, Hamachi, Chrome, Microsoft Office 2007 and Photoshop CS5 all compatible?
5: My track-pad is a Synaptics one. Will Windows 8 drivers give it all the different gestures for Windows 8?
6: What is it like without a touch-screen? Should I buy a touch-mouse and, if so, what one?
Brad387 said:
Acer Aspire 5552
-AMD Athlon II X2 P320 processor 2.1 Ghz
-ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
-4 GB DDR3 Memory
-500 GB HDD
-1366x768 HD LCD
1: Will this laptop run Windows 8 with all available options, such as splitting apps and all?
2: Running the upgrade assistant, it says secure boot isn't supported on my system. Is this a worry?
3: If I upgrade, will I keep all my programs and documents?
4: Is iTunes, Steam, Hamachi, Chrome, Microsoft Office 2007 and Photoshop CS5 all compatible?
5: My track-pad is a Synaptics one. Will Windows 8 drivers give it all the different gestures for Windows 8?
6: What is it like without a touch-screen? Should I buy a touch-mouse and, if so, what one?
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1. Not a guarantee, but splitting apps should work - however useless that feature is.
2. Secure boot blocks anything besides Windows from booting up, which is helpful to almost all Windows users, but probably not xda members.
3. Don't do the upgrade. People have had so many problems with it that it is much better to dual boot imo.
4. iTunes - not sure but probably, seeing as it is just a music application and doesn't direcly interface with hardware
Steam - yes
Hamachi - no idea
Chrome - yes
Office - yes
CS5 - yes
5. It SHOULD
6. I would say that a proper trackpad is ergonomically superior to a touchscreen. Sure it's a little more awkward but you don't have to lift your hand up to it. When I upgraded to 8 my two finger scrolling became almost as smooth as it is on Mac. The only inconvenient part about not having a touchscreen (imo) is having to drag the mouse from the top of the screen to the bottom in order to close apps, but it is way easier to just alt + f4 it.
But if you are like me you won't even touch Metro apps. My start screen consists of my desktop apps and shortcuts to various folders. It retains all of the functionality of the old start menu. Just stuff has been moved around that's all. You can still hit windows (or click start) and start typing away. But now if you want to click on something to open it you have the whole screen available, and you can pick which programs are on there, instead of just your most recent ones.
JihadSquad said:
1. Not a guarantee, but splitting apps should work - however useless that feature is.
2. Secure boot blocks anything besides Windows from booting up, which is helpful to almost all Windows users, but probably not xda members.
3. Don't do the upgrade. People have had so many problems with it that it is much better to dual boot imo.
4. iTunes - not sure but probably, seeing as it is just a music application and doesn't direcly interface with hardware
Steam - yes
Hamachi - no idea
Chrome - yes
Office - yes
CS5 - yes
5. It SHOULD
6. I would say that a proper trackpad is ergonomically superior to a touchscreen. Sure it's a little more awkward but you don't have to lift your hand up to it. When I upgraded to 8 my two finger scrolling became almost as smooth as it is on Mac. The only inconvenient part about not having a touchscreen (imo) is having to drag the mouse from the top of the screen to the bottom in order to close apps, but it is way easier to just alt + f4 it.
But if you are like me you won't even touch Metro apps. My start screen consists of my desktop apps and shortcuts to various folders. It retains all of the functionality of the old start menu. Just stuff has been moved around that's all. You can still hit windows (or click start) and start typing away. But now if you want to click on something to open it you have the whole screen available, and you can pick which programs are on there, instead of just your most recent ones.
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Why shouldn't it be able to run Windows 8 in full, since it more than passes the minimum system requirements? Will the performance of my laptop improve or become worse than with Windows 7? I really would like for Hamachi to work, so if anybody knows please leave a message. What is the point of dual-booting? I really do just want to upgrade. What problems are there with that?
Brad387 said:
Why shouldn't it be able to run Windows 8 in full, since it more than passes the minimum system requirements? Will the performance of my laptop improve or become worse than with Windows 7? I really would like for Hamachi to work, so if anybody knows please leave a message. What is the point of dual-booting? I really do just want to upgrade. What problems are there with that?
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If something goes wrong, you still have your old os. Also upgrading windows is generally a bad idea because of all the problems it causes. If you wanted to upgrade I would back up everything to an external drive and format it.
JihadSquad said:
If something goes wrong, you still have your old os. Also upgrading windows is generally a bad idea because of all the problems it causes. If you wanted to upgrade I would back up everything to an external drive and format it.
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I will likely still keep Windows 7 then, if upgrading is that risky. I cannot be bothered to reinstall everything or transfer all my files. My laptop is really important for my education and also just in my daily life. I don't want any risk to it. Thanks for the help though...
Brad387 said:
I will likely still keep Windows 7 then, if upgrading is that risky. I cannot be bothered to reinstall everything or transfer all my files. My laptop is really important for my education and also just in my daily life. I don't want any risk to it. Thanks for the help though...
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No problem
JihadSquad said:
No problem
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It will take me hours to reinstall all my games and software, especially since I can't even remember where I put the discs for some of them any more. Not worth it.

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