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Hello,
sometimes, in a "rough environment", I use my old Nokia 6110 instead of MDA2. Is there any way how to get the SMS messages received in the Nokia (and supposedly stored on the SIM) from the SIM to the MDA2 ?
Thanks a lot for an advice !!
Petr
Prague, Czech Rep.
i've never heard about phones being able to store sms's on the sim
pretty sure that all i've heard about use the phone for that
so if moving the sim from a phone which supposed to support it
and putting in another which also is suppsed to support it would prove if it does or dont
if only one brand of phones support it at all i doubt it's a feature which many people long too much for on the any other brand of phone or pda out there
Rudegar: SIMS normally come with space for up to 20 SMS messages.
Some phones will store them locally, the good-old-fashioned way is SIM based.
xvylp01: The only way that I know to transfer them is via a PC - Nokia
PC Suite to get them there and activesync back again. Of course, they
will then no longer be SMS messaes, but you should be able to save them
as notes, or similar, so that you can access them
Cheers,
Dave.
..to retrieve SMS messages unseen by the Magician?
I think this is an software issue.
Reason I ask is this:
I bought a dual sim adapter and after I cut my 2 cards up to make them fit, I both inserted them into an old Nokia 3310 I had lying around. Interestingly enough, I saw SMS messages in my inbox from a few months back I hadnt seen before. So I am 99% sure the software isnt capaturing all events, God knows for whatever reason.
Beside the usual **** you receive via SMS, there were some messages form my girlfriend, so in order to prevent heavy arguments with her in the future due to me not replying (hehe), Id like to know how to fix this.
Oddly enough, after inserting the dual sim adapter into my Magician, they dont show up. They should be on the SIMs somewhere though
any ideas/ help would be great
never heard about any pocketpc phone which supported sms's stored on sim cards
i suspect that the whole api interface is limited to contact info
could be, but then how the fook did this occur in the first place?
Its odd enough like it is
maybe nokia and some others stray'd from the std sim std because sims started to have more and more memory and people dident need that much for contacts
dmmh said:
..to retrieve SMS messages unseen by the Magician?
I think this is an software issue.
Reason I ask is this:
I bought a dual sim adapter and after I cut my 2 cards up to make them fit, I both inserted them into an old Nokia 3310 I had lying around. Interestingly enough, I saw SMS messages in my inbox from a few months back I hadnt seen before. So I am 99% sure the software isnt capaturing all events, God knows for whatever reason.
Beside the usual **** you receive via SMS, there were some messages form my girlfriend, so in order to prevent heavy arguments with her in the future due to me not replying (hehe), Id like to know how to fix this.
Oddly enough, after inserting the dual sim adapter into my Magician, they dont show up. They should be on the SIMs somewhere though
any ideas/ help would be great
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Hi DMMH, sorry to go off-topic, but can you tell me where you bought your dual sim adapter? I cannot find conclusive posts on which types work and yours seems to work fine. Can you switch the SIM by an icon or do you have to turn flight-mode on and off? thanks in advance.
It would be possible to write a prog to read through all SMS records on the SIM card. Can't say I've ever tried it, but if stuff is saved on the SIM, it'll find em!
V
well if you can access the address's of the sim then yes
but you access the sim using some interface in the gsm module
then only if it support it
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
rdosti said:
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
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Hello
thats exactly what I like to use the shift for. I am not interested in making phone calls with it.
But the Shift is blocking calls, which should also arrive on my mobile phone...
I think HTC has made this blocking to avoid connection problems when somebody tries to calls the shift (which is not supported).
Is this right?
Might work?
I don't know for sure about T-Mobile. I am using a similar service (they call it "FlexiCard") from E-Plus. They have a function that allows you to designate one of your SIM cards as the primary card. This is the card that will receive calls (and SMS) first, only if this card is not active (phone turned off) or busy a call or SMS will be routed to the other card.
However, there seems to be a service difference between T-Mobile and E-Plus: I have the SIM card in my Shift still designated as the "primary" card. If the modem is turned on, this is interpreted by E-Plus as "busy", so calls go to my phone (which holds the "secondary" card). If the modem is turned off, the SIM card in my Shift is obviously inactive and not visible to the mobile network. So the only reason for me to switch "primary" vs. "secondary" would be to continue receiving SMS messages on my phone rather than the Shift. Unfortunately, for SMS E-Plus does not bother whether the "primary" card is active / busy or not, SMS always go to that card (understandable when you look at how SMS works on mobile networks).
If you don't find any information about switching primary/secondary card in your documentation that came with the card I suggest contacting the T-Mobile hotline. They should be able to tell you whether this functionality is available with your "MultiSIM" and how to switch "primary" between the cards.
Thank you mw65719 four your tip.
I just phoned with T-Mobile support.
They don't support it like Eplus to switch between SIMCards.
It is just possible to define a primary card for SMS service, not for phone calls. Whenever someone calls me both phones are ringing.
So I will have to buy a new contract with T-Mobile just for data transfer, which is more expensive than the combination of phone/data contract.
I have the same issue with the MultiSIM from t-mobile. Both phones (the other one is a Touch) are ringing, after the first ring a line-busy message is generated.
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
Does anyone has an idea to solve this problem instead of splitting the MultiSIM into two separate contracts?
Have just opened a suuport case at HTC Europe concering this issue. Seems to be a German (and t-mobile) specific problem.....
speech service ?!
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Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
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find out how the call canceled
a: is it the 3g modem that set the networkstatus to -> data service only
b: or a apllication that will call canceled - reason busy
see here what i mean
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/laptop/hyperterminalmulti-sim-anleitung.pdf
I think it's part of the WinMo/SnapVue side.
Vista enables a lan connection with WinMo for internet.
So there could be settings in the registry to enable/disable this busy status.
I try to find somethin, but unfortunately i'm not a pro like others here in the Board.
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
Idea how to activate phone pad
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it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
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I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
Pawel062 said:
problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
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I am not interested in using the phone pad.
I like to solve the busy line problem (read some posts above). When activating the speech on modem side, this would be solve and I could use my Shift with my MultiSIM-Card
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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souds interesting ! .. have you try some scenarios ? with 3G enabled, with 3G disabled, with wifi enabled, with wifi disabled ... etc ?
I can't try myself.. but as there are data connection through 3G.. I think that it is possible to find a solution to the step 2 !
Anybody found a solution for this?
Getting my shift soon, and im going for a twin sim solution. would suck if i cant get phone calls on my kaiser cos the shift is on in snap vue mode and rejects the calls.
I am experiencing the same Problem with my Shift.
It is crazy, because my Mobile rings a halt time, then the Shift rejects the call. Afterwards, I have to call back.
The problem should be able to solve, but you have, anyhow, to tell the shifts modem not to reject voice calls. Still, I do not know how to tell the modem
Hello?
Has anyone resolved this issue? I'm a new MultiSIM user, and the idea of not having any internet with my shift is ****ing me off (that would make it as useful as a brick ).
Any resolution is appreciated.
Cheers.
HI @ all, i don´t know, if you fixed that problem.
I´m a multi SIm user too. With the original Radio Version (shipped with german SHIFT) the same problem. After that, i update the radio Version to the Phone edition radio Version:
see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486234
(but here always my WinCE Side was really slow??) so I Downgrade back the phone edition
1.27.35.28 and ce OS version 5.2.1620 (I00 ROm I think)
And now, Phone is working, and never the Multisim usage hangs up.
I don´t know why, i play every 1 month with Shift and upgrade, downgrade something, then the most time shift is not in use, so i don´t make a history what happend...
:-(
But with the new radio Version it will work.
maybe this rom work too:
Cmonex posted another radio for backup. This radio is for original rom (ie all other roms from the forum). Look for the link on page 5, or here
http://rapidshare.com/files/20211808...ift1582123.zip <- this is not for the phone or for this rom
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7...e6ba49b5870170
Irgendware said:
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
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it happens with all multiple sims when you have all the devices activated!!!...
when you have multiple sims and you have all the devices open...
which device should accept the call ??
it does not work as douplex land line... not all of your mobile devices should ring at the same time ... obviously the one that was opened first and got the signal from your provider should get the line...
the twin sim solution works fine with me ... plus unlimited internet access from phone and the shift...
BUT one device open at a time ...
I just bought my htc HD2 and upgrader to official rom 1.62, i think, released from last january, then i had this bug for sending sms. i upgraded the radio, twice, 2 versions, no way,
used the official rom, then three roms of the best cookers her, thanks to them for all the work
But, no way to send the sms, i receive instead something from my operator telling that i'm using a bad adress, something like that.
I read all around the site, and this seems to affect just some users.
but from another side, someone with the same issue desactivated the sms function with shap's utility, and solved it.
i don't know what to do, please help, is this a hardware issue?
have you tried getting the settings resent from your network provider?
It's not the normal sms bug you have. You have a problem with the settings.
Contact your provider and ask for the sms settings.
Or visit the a shop that have this provider and the HD2 and ask for help.
Thanks for the replay.
When i started with the phone, with Orange france, i think i was able to send some messages. but then i updated to several roms to hope resolve the problem. i'm receiving areplay from the provider just after sending every sms saying 'your message can't be treated else you have no credit, or you use a destination non authorized!!!!"
i cheked the parameter for the server provider, it's ok. nothing wrong on this side. Really strange to buy a handset 550$ and to be without sms function, i regret really having sold the Iphone 3Gs, at least i could do the basic things.
As I wrote, it is NOT the sms bug that is making problems on your phone.
Because with the SMS bug, the SMS never left the phone.
If you get a message from the provider, then it is the provider making problems, not the phone.
So either the telephone nr is wrong, or the settings or some strange thing in the ROM when used with your provider.
I suggest you test with another SIM card. Borrow a SIM card from a friend to test. Test both with the same provider and a different provider just to find out. Also, if you post what provider you use, maybe someone here can help U with correct settings.
But I agree there have been to many bugs on this phone. I had much less problems with the Touch HD, but HD2 is so much faster that i prefer the HD2.
U should also contact your provider with this problem since they are making the problem.
You are right!
Here is what i did.
i have another sim card from another provider, i switched the two sim from the two phones, and when i use the new sim hd2 configure automatically the settings. then i send the message from the HD2 to other handset with the faulty sim-provider-config or whatever. the message is delivered in 2seconds! so definetely strange thing here.
I cheked the setting - number for sms server, it's ok. back with my principal sim on hd2, and again no way to send the sms. really strange!!!
thanks anyway for the good help. i appreciate
Hi All
I'm looking for some help please!
I have fitted a Chinese Android Head Unit to my car. I have a 4G/Wi-Fi modem into which I have fitted an O2 Pay-as-You-Go SIM Card. The SIM card connects to the HU by USB, but rather oddly the modem uses Wi-Fi to connect to the Head Unit (for some reason not using the faster and more reliable USB, but that's not the question).
So, I can connect to the Internet and use up the time on the SIM card - that's all OK, but, O2 will only top up the card or tell me the outstanding credit if I answer a text message that they send to the SIM card - which of course has no idea what to do with a text as it isn't in a mobile phone. Their security question is "what is your most dialled number ?" - but I don't ever dial out. So I have to top up blind by going to the O2 shop and handing over cash!
The 4G/Wi-Fi modem is now in the cars roof column so not easy to get at!
Do you have any suggestions as to how I can top-up? My ideas were:
a) Find an app that turns the Head Unit into a mobile phone that can receive and make texts
b) I know that the 4G/Wi-Fi modems you plug into laptops come with software that allow the provider to connect directly (without texts). Is there one of these for Android?
Hopefully I am just not looking in the right places - I don't want any solution to involve my mobile phone as the idea is that my car can support me if I lose my phone.
Cheers
James
Well.. I just googled "02 sim top up"
seems like auto-top up is a thing. and it seems that you can install a "my o2" app, on the headunit or phone, and see the balance on there..
maybe have to put the sim in another device to get a text to link it to a account or something.
Hi pafo42
That was easy - thanks, I'll give it a try.
I did go on line to O2 and consulted two of their 'Gurus' on different occasions. Suffice it to say they were completely useless. Well I'm assuming that they are Gurus in the sense of an authorititve teacher, but I guess they are Gurus in the sense of being Hindu Spiritual Leaders and so have no particular knowledge of Mobiles and Android, etc.
It will be interesting to see if my Head Unit comes up with the same display as a phone - not sure about the fingerprint part either but it is an avenue to explore.
I also searched Google play for an app but I guess I failed there!
Cheers
James