Hi, My xda II can't seem to open programs when connected to the cradle..
It says ->
eg. windows media player
"cannot open 'wmplayer'. A critical component is missing or cannot start because program memory is unavailable. Tap start > settings > System tab > Memory, stop programs that did not automatically stop, and try again."
there were no other programs running except active sync. This always is the case when the xda II is connected to the cradle.
Need your help, thanks...
any help please?
What version of active sync are you using?
Is it because, when activesync runs on your xda, you have too many total programs running (more than? 32?)
- Ben
I'm using verion 3.7 of active sync..
Ben, How come there is too many programs running when connected? I always check the running programs and the only program running is active sync...
thanks
Lots of programs are running in the background.
Programs don't realy close if you click on X.
Use Magic Button to really close programs (freeware).
Download it @ http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
Well! I don't have a XDA II actually, but I read in this forum that you can only have a maximum number of Programs ? Threads ? Processes ? Services running. Then Windows Mobile starts closing the programs you have in the background.
What I was suggesting is that you are already running the maximum number -1 of processes, when you cradle it, activeSync process starts up, so you reach your maximum total of processes, after that, Windows refuses to start any new processes, instead of closing the ones that are running in the background, maybe because they are all "critical".
It was just a suggestion,
try closing some other programs you might have installed and start up everytime
- ben
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Attached 2 files to "clear" the memory leaks.
Description from:
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
The files are actually in a cab file meant for Smartphones and cannot be installed directly to Mini. I extracted them out and found that they work on Mini as well.
I am interested to hear feedback on this... does it really work as advertised on Oxios? :?:
tried on my dopod 818 with wm5..
no dice..
didnt work
tried on jasjar, depends on circumstances.
if activesync ate up the ram during the day, then only recover about 2 meg of the 15 eaten.
if from using lots of different apps in a short period of time, then a little more successful, maybe upto 5 meg.
Looks interesting..not sure how effective it is...by the way I'm using Magic Button on my Mini so no issues with multiple programs running...
Actually while on the subhject of programs running, there are heaps of processes running on the background that do NOT show up on the "Running Programs" in the Programs menu.
All your today plugins are running and any background processes that were started up at every soft reset. To get a clearer picture, install a tool like Mem Maid and you can see for yourself which app is eating up your RAM. It clearly shows which process is running and how much RAM that process is consuming.
Yes, and one way to reduce memory leaks involves discipline with Today plugins. :lol:
Incidentally, I have removed STK, CheckAutoUpdate and Assistant from my StartUp folder, without ill effects. 3 processes freed! 8)
actually those three processes take up very little RAM and don't use the CPU at all so leaving them on your device is ok. It's the 3rd party apps that you will have to look out for....
I currently have mBlueSchedule running which automatically turns on and off bluetooth for me. It consumes 1.18MB RAM...amazing.....hihihi...
amazing! works fine!!!!
O2mini_noob said:
I currently have mBlueSchedule running which automatically turns on and off bluetooth for me. It consumes 1.18MB RAM...amazing.....hihihi...
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Hi O2mini_noob,
take a look at dktoday, the dll is a measly 30kb couldn't find the memory consumption in ram though. It turns on BT on an incoming phone call, it counts the time I called people today & this (user adjustable) month, counts # sms send, it shows your current active operator (when pressed the screen is turned off), missed calls, show BT status & switches it when you press it's BT icon.
It's my favorite today plugin.
Cheers, M
thanks oltp, looking at it now....
I always have problems with WM5 memory management, which led me to experiment more on some free apps out there. This is a personal trick I just recently learned from all the AKU 3 versions that are coming out that I have been trying out and would like to share with everyone.
I will attach OXIOS Memory CAB file below my post, you need both Oxios Hibernate and Oxios Close Apps for this trick to work.
This is the theory for the increase of memory: basically what I wanted to happen is to only have 1 application running in the background no matter what. Thus, opening another app automatically closes the other app, even just pressing the OK button. Just like what a Palm device does with regards to application handling.
One draw back though, you are eliminating the ability of the WM5 device to run multiple applications at the same time.
OK enough of the explanations, here is what you have to do:
1st: Download the copy of OXIOS apps I provided.
2nd: Run the CAB file to install.
3rd: Go to Windows>Start Menu>Programs>Accessories.
4th: Copy the shortcuts for both Oxios Close Apps and Oxios Hibernate.
5th: Go to Windows>Start Up.
6th: Paste both Oxios Close Apps and Oxios Hibernate.
7th: Perform a soft reset.
Basically this would make WM5 behave like a palm device. You can now only open one application at one time, thus ensuring you have enough memory for your current application to run.
You don't even need to close any app anymore manually, since it is done automatically for you now.
There are some exceptions to this however and they are:
1: Contacts Application
2: MMS Application
3: Calendar Application
4: Phone Application
These 4 apps can be opened all at the same time without closing automatically, a good thing because you want them to work together when sending messages or files. Plus, you also want the phone ON at all times.
Good luck and let me know if you prefer this solution or suggestion.
hmmm...
I don't like the idea of not being in control of my device...
I've been happy doing it manually with Magic Button, and since yesterday, Wisbar Advance 2.
I think the extra tap is worth it!
that's great, maybe it's good for me, thanks for your cab file.
i tried these apps before, but not in this fashion. it never really fully recovered all the memory that it was trying to recover.
is there still a gradual memory leak, or does this manage to retain the full amount of memory after each closure.
i start with 29 - 30mb, it drops to about 18mb, so I reset it. does this stop the memory drop and reduction and totally reclaim the memory on closure of every app?
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does this stop the memory drop and reduction and totally reclaim the memory on closure of every app?
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No, unfortunately, but based on using them on the latest AKU 3 ROMs, Oxios apps are getting better in recovering the lost memory.
thanks! will think about installing this. currently, im just using memmaid's reclaim ram plug in. Im not sure if it's just placebo but it works somehow..
I was playing with several ipod UI's for my Hermes and somehow my remove programs list is now blank. the total storage memory available at the bottom is also blank.
it seems like i didnt install anything...but all my programs that where installed before still works.
i think it happened after i uninstalled WA2 and WAD.
anyone know how i can get it back???
Hi,
try to remove the last 1 or 2 programs you've installed using activesync (add or remove software) .... your list should come back.
bye
Thanks for the help...but i am using WMDC and it gives me an error everytime it tries to sync.
sigh...i guess i'll just have to upgrade to black 3.5 with a fresh install.
Sorry to ressurect an old thread but I just had exactly the same issue on my HTC Touch. All my installed programs have vanished from the list (but still work) and ActiveSync won't connect to let me install or uninstall anything.
I have 6.97mb of storage free and 16.33mb of program storage free.
Any ideas how to sort this out without clearing everything out and starting again?
I am using aserg windows mobile 6.1 rom and I have noticed a creeping problem. As time goes on, I can only seem to run 1 substantial program at a time.
For instance, if I try to run any of these programs in tandem:
HTC audio manager or Windows Media Player
Mundu mobile messenger
Opera
Internet explorer
Dictionary software
Outlook mail (sms/email)
Skype
the program in the background always closes. This is especially annoying when for instance I am listening to music and I get an email or sms, I go to check it and my music player just closes. Same if I try to browse the web and listen to music or check an sms, It is very annoying.
What causes this function in windows mobile and how do I turn it off?
As for memory, when I start I have 13-14 megs free memory. Any of these programs take an absolute MAXIMUM of 4-5 megs at peak usage. I should be able to run at least 2 together without a problem, and if another one does nto have enough memory, it shoudl just say so and not start, but not close out other programs...
I also have about 4-5 megs of free storage space on the phone.
any ideas on this one?
It seems as time goes on, I can't seem to run any more than 1 program simultaneously...
Reduce the amount of file space your browser have allotted for cache files and history.
My browser cache for both Opera and PIE are both pointed at the storage card which has about 500megs free. This problem occurs even if I am running any programs though, not just browsers...
It's either the memory shortage (which some of those programs can actually take much more than 4 or 5 mb to run.) Or you have it set to close on tap, within the task manager/x-button, instead of close on hold.
I use batterystatus, and it is set to tap and hold X to close, but I never use the X, I simply go to the start menu and open another program, then when I try to switch back to the other program, it is closed already.
How do I check if it is a memory problem?
For instance, if I run HTC audio manager, then get a message, I click reply, then after about 3 seconds into my reply HTC audio manager closes.
is there any way I can "force" the programs to stay open? Even if I were to launch a new program and it does not have enough memory, it woudl just not open rather than closing an existing open program...
To me, it sounds like you are running out of RAM, and programs that were running in the background are automatically closed. I'm not affiliated with Windows Mobile and hence not an expert, but I believe this (closing previously open programs rather than the new one) is the expected behavior in WM. Imagine getting a phone call and the phone app not opening since there's not enough memory because the OS didn't automatically close background programs...
I don't know of a way of changing the memory management behavior, but maybe someone else here does? I'd argue that you wouldn't want to anyway.
I'd suggest that you DO use the X button to close programs, otherwise I guarantee you will run out of memory and things will close automatically anyway. The difference is you won't have any say in what gets closed at that point. I added programs that I don't want to close with the X button (like Live Messenger) to the exclusive programs list in the Task Manager.
Second, I'd suggest you take any steps you can to increase your original pool of memory.
Darren, I understand your point, but it seems as if I have plenty of memory, and I can only run 1 program at a time. I don't mind so much the behaviour, it is just at the point of being ridiculous when I can only run 1 program at a time.
So you think that starting with 13-14 megs of free memory is not enough? How would I go about increasing this original pool of memory?
Also, even it I use the X button to close programs, that does not solve my problem anyways, whichever program is not in the foreground seems to close by itself anyway...
phony, I understand your frustration. I have had low memory problems myself, and I know that programs running in the background will close when that happens. That's why when I read your post it sounded like a memory issue to me.
I ended up tweaking a few things to try to get more free memory, like not running certain processes or services automatically at startup. I'm not sure if it is relevant to the ROM you are running, but see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312312.
This is definitely a memory problem. When the free program memory is lower than about 1MB (don't remember the exact number), the WIndows Mobile will send a WM_HIBERNATE to all the running program to release all the possible resources. If the memory goes lower, it will broadcast another message called WM_CLOSE to close all the background apps to release more memory. The only reason for apps that close on themselve is either low on mem or there are some apps in the background (maybe a virus) sending WM_CLOSE every now and then. To be honest, to have less than 15 megs of ram to start with is NEVER enough. Try to change the pool size if you don't like any of the great roms here. Hope this help.
So it's not the obvious...on two other programs running and the task manager shows %75 memory available.
this occurs on a fresh backed ROM of wm6.1 on my xv6900.
I'm using the default wm6.1 calender and I can look at any view (month, week day) and see the events. when I try to open an idivdule event to see my notes...it hangs and this error finally comes up.
No porgram memory available. Tap Start >....Task manaer, stop programs that did not automoatically stop, and try again.
Memory leak, ROM flaw? Anyone seen this before.
thanks.
rsf