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Speakers on Wizard / Universal

Heard that the speakers was alot better on the Universal then it is on the Wizard? Can anyone confirm that the speakers _are_ better on the Universal thanks.

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DUDE -
i donno who told u that !
although i have no comparison to other - the HTC universal speakers are WEAK !
i had to amplify all mp3's i wanted as tones by 20-30% (volume) so ill hear them.
and quality isnt great..

Oh that sucks

hmm..that strange..I dun see any issue on soft speaker on my universal. The ringtone is loud and so thus the MP3.

I have both and find both speakers fine. Either the headphone output is better on the wizard or the headphones themselves because the sound it a lot better through headphones on the wizard.
What really annoys me with those little headphones though is that they dont go into your ear properly. Push them in with your fingers and the bass is really good. Then when you let go your back to tinny sound again.
Thought headphones would have moved on by now. Where are our microbe implants that are equiv to having some 400w technics strapped to your head.

I have to agree with the others, my EXEC's speakers are loud if turned to full blast. I can hear my MP3s playing from the other room with my door closed.

knowsleyroader said:
What really annoys me with those little headphones though is that they dont go into your ear properly. Push them in with your fingers and the bass is really good. Then when you let go your back to tinny sound again.
Thought headphones would have moved on by now. Where are our microbe implants that are equiv to having some 400w technics strapped to your head.
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You can get headphones that do just that, from Sony, Shure and Etymotic, but to get that bass response they have to seal the ear with rubber rings. Cost aside, that raises serious safety issues for general use because it isolates you from external sounds. So they can be dangerous wearing them outside, as you won't hear the cry of "Look Out!" or that speeding truck hurtling towards you.
That said, I have some Shure e3cs, and they are stunning. What's more they're better for my hearing long term because I can keep the volume levels right down and still hear the finest detail in the music. I just have to be _very_ careful when crossing the road...

Ineedtoys said:
knowsleyroader said:
What really annoys me with those little headphones though is that they dont go into your ear properly. Push them in with your fingers and the bass is really good. Then when you let go your back to tinny sound again.
Thought headphones would have moved on by now. Where are our microbe implants that are equiv to having some 400w technics strapped to your head.
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You can get headphones that do just that, from Sony, Shure and Etymotic, but to get that bass response they have to seal the ear with rubber rings. Cost aside, that raises serious safety issues for general use because it isolates you from external sounds. So they can be dangerous wearing them outside, as you won't hear the cry of "Look Out!" or that speeding truck hurtling towards you.
That said, I have some Shure e3cs, and they are stunning. What's more they're better for my hearing long term because I can keep the volume levels right down and still hear the finest detail in the music. I just have to be _very_ careful when crossing the road...
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Can you get them with the smaller jack for the wizard ? Link ?

knowsleyroader said:
Can you get them with the smaller jack for the wizard ? Link ?
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Get an adapter then you can use any headphones you like.
Maplin and Expansys do these:-
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108470
But I prefer not to use the "one piece" moulded adapters as they put too much stress on the XDA socket. So I use one like this:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5852006398
(you get one like this with the £99 Orange C550 Music pack)
Downside is you have to unplug the headphones to talk, but I note you can now get them with a microphone (but AFAIK no talk button):-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5851815612
Or you could get one that allows you to use your audio headphones and a headset together:-
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119236
Another alternative, if you're handy with a soldering iron, is to take a spare HTC headset, dismantle the dongle that houses the talk button, disconnect the crappy headphones, and solder in your new ones, or, to be more versatile, the 3.5mm wired socket from one of the cheap adapters.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=523654&page=1&pp=30
Or buy it ready made, but with retractable cord, here:-
http://www.seidio-europe.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=230
(Note: Seidio's web page indicates the PTT and Mic wiring is the same for the XDA and the Treo, but I haven't tried it, so YMMV etc).

Had accident, smashed speaker, need new one

Hi all,
I had an accident and fell flat down to the ground with my TyTN in the belt pocket, exactly between my hip bone and the ground.
Now I have some more cosmetic plastic issues, but this would be acceptable. The bad thing is the Mail button is like a "sensor key" now, but works. The really bad thing is, the plastic speaker item inside (connected to the toppoly board, the speaker where the sound during calls comes out) is completely smashed and there's no more sound.
Since the rest is perfectly well, no screen damage (and no wrong alignments!!!) I would like to keep this phone but need a new speaker.
Could you guys help me to find such a speaker? The only part number on it is
501E6234A . It is a white plastic part, two gold connectors on the board side, a metal cover (now smashed) and a membrane on between the cover. You can see it on the attached pic, it's the white plastic rectangle in the middle.
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Thanks in advance and greetings from Munich,
Torben

Hi Torben...
Did you ever find a replacement speaker? I have the same problem as you and need one
Thanks

Hey Fallingonion,
I am sorry, but I don't have any good news... I was in contact with a German company that usually repairs all kind of mobile phones for sales companies. They told me since the device is still too new they haven't received any replacement parts yet. The only way to have it repaired would be sending it in to HTC.
I did that in December and am still waiting for it to come back - and what it will cost.
How did you break your phone?
Torben

I've seen a few parted out Hermes on ebay - you might try that.

Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben

kic said:
Hey lacroixdp,
thanks for this hint, too bad it's too late for me - but maybe Fallingonion can get a new speaker from there.
Greetings,
Torben
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I've done some digging around, and may have found a suitable alternative It looks like the Motorola L6 / L7 might use the same part...
I figured the speaker would not be unique to the TyTN - some other phone or PDA must use the same one - so I went looking for disassembly instructions for other phones in the hope that they might show the same speaker.
If you check Step 9 in this pdf you can see what looks like the same earpiece speaker (even though it looks like they may have unfortunately damaged it during removal - you can see the metal face plate is still attached to the front of the phone.) What do you think?
I've ordered one to see if it fits - I'll let you know what I find
I didn't actually break mine - I bought one from eBay, only to find that the earpiece distorted if you turned the volume up So I took it apart and found that the metal shield on the front of the speaker was dented slightly - I guess enough for the speaker membrane to hit it.
If the Motorola speaker works, maybe you can get your phone back from HTC before they charge you a fortune?

Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben

kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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I'll let you know as soon as I get it - hopefully it will be soon

kic said:
Wow, yes, definitely looks the same - I simply cannot say anything about the actual size.
Let me know what comes out - too bad I already sent mine in for a repair! I doubt I can still get it back without a repair :-(
I am curious though anyway
Torben
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Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike

mikechannon said:
Difficult to say if this the TyTn front speaker (earpiece) is identical to the one shown in Motorola PDF, might well function ok even if specs are slightly different though. In terms of delicate electronics were at the ironmongery end of the scale here!!!
Mike
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That's what I'm hoping, Mike
The speaker in your photos looks exactly like the one in the TyTN - are they of the TyTN earpiece or the Motorola one?
EDIT by Mike - The pictures above are of the TYTN fron speaker/earpiece. And we now know the Motorola L6/L7 does work as a replacement.

I know that it is a complete offtopic ... but this is the reason why I use the aluminium case for my Vario II it just saves lifes ..

Just as an update - the replacement Motorola speaker that I was sent works fine
It was not a perfect match for the old one - it was necessary to slightly bend the contacts outwards to make sure that they made proper contact with the pads on the circuit board - but other than that replacement was simple. Sound quality of the new speaker is fine, and seems a bit louder than the original, although I could be imagining that
In case anyone else has the same problem, the only place in the UK that I could find advertising the necessary part was Phatphones (see "Speaker/Earpiece for Motorola L6/L7" on this page.) The part was quite expensive compared to other replacement speakers, but as I said it was the only one available.
Cheers all -

When your speaker out of order, did you try to using the orignal headset? I have the same accident as you did. But ,There is no sound at all.I try to using the orignal headset, but still don't work. I am not sure , if it is the speaker problem or the sound IC problem. Now. I can only using the Bluetooth headset.

HTC Touch Diamond speaker

Is there any way of improving sound quality from the standard speaker on the HTC TD ?
The speaker works but is very tinny when compared to other phones in hands free mode.
Is this a hardware issue, and hence nothing can be done, or is there a software frig that will help sound quality ?

hi, it seems when ever a sound question is asked no one seems bothered or have covered it a million times before. I asked the same question and had 300 views without an answer. Sorry pal but if its a sound question i fear youll have to ask in another forum as it seems taboo here. Im currently using my spare diamond and testing some other speakers inside it as there is so much speaker room its untrue, when i find , If i find a good one with a good fit ill pm you and let you know
cheers for now

let me know too when you finished testing please.. btw how much room is in there ? (dimensions)

We need a response from the pros at this.
cos im not ready to pop it open just yet lol

coopigeon said:
If i find a good one with a good fit ill pm you and let you know
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Can't you just post a guide here so everyone would know?

U can increase the sound level using tweaks in Advanced configuration v3.2 but sound quality will decrease .

i think this issue related to the hardware, not to the software issue.

coopigeon said:
hi, it seems when ever a sound question is asked no one seems bothered or have covered it a million times before. I asked the same question and had 300 views without an answer. Sorry pal but if its a sound question i fear youll have to ask in another forum as it seems taboo here. Im currently using my spare diamond and testing some other speakers inside it as there is so much speaker room its untrue, when i find , If i find a good one with a good fit ill pm you and let you know
cheers for now
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usally with these things you will find if you dont get an answer
then the question has been asked a million times before and everyones
fed up of answering it.this question has been asked since the
diamond first became available.
best to use search first and if nothing comes up thats relevant
then post a question.

thanks for your help guys.
I would, as I am sure others to , be interested in a public posting if you find a speaker that fits and improves the sound quality.

perhaps this can help, woudnt try it myself tough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lJoelghkH8

darkenergy said:
perhaps this can help, woudnt try it myself tough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lJoelghkH8
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Nice, but it looks like a gsm phone. My cdma phone looks like I need to remove the entire internal back cover. It looks like one piece.

964rs777 said:
usally with these things you will find if you dont get an answer
then the question has been asked a million times before and everyones
fed up of answering it.this question has been asked since the
diamond first became available.
best to use search first and if nothing comes up thats relevant
then post a question.
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I disagree . The question of low sound has been from a software , tweak point of view but i asked about replacement speaker inside the phone itselfd from another phone as theres so mcuh room i could pack for a weekend away as well compared to many other phones

Did anybody try that mod or changed the speaker?
i d be curious to hear if it really improved the sound

I used to have a Samsung i730 (WM5) which had "SRS WOW", a software solution that helped with the perception of lousy sound. It did work quite well in making the speakers sound better. I don't know if that could be easily ported over.
Unfortunately, I no longer have that phone.

Not sure how this affects the quality.

nosro said:
I used to have a Samsung i730 (WM5) which had "SRS WOW", a software solution that helped with the perception of lousy sound. It did work quite well in making the speakers sound better. I don't know if that could be easily ported over.
Unfortunately, I no longer have that phone.
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Ahh, never mind. Plenty of people on the SRS case with no consistent solution found yet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417636

darkenergy said:
perhaps this can help, woudnt try it myself tough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lJoelghkH8
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I opened up my phone , and i opened the speaker also (first cutting step in the movie).
But next, after inspecting the main speaker housing it seems to have multiple connections wich lead to a black foil covering the housing.
I assume this foil is used as antenna for one or more of the phone's radio's/recievers.
So i assembled it back again without cutting a square trought the housing (step 2) as that would cut a large hole trough the antenna foil.
Volume gain from only opening the speaker (first step in the movie) is not noticable.

shift repair guide with photo?

hi guys i want guide with photos to know how to open my shift safely to reach the usb to replace it as i danage it..few month i saw that guide but i could look for it or get it
so please any one know to help me get steps to open it safley it will be so nice
thanks

Here it is.

thanks so much dear friend,you are such kind person
i get the doc but its photos not working,but any way i get it thank you so much

nooor7772000 said:
thanks so much dear friend,you are such kind person
i get the doc but its photos not working,but any way i get it thank you so much
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You can download the Pdf version here
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Shift Dismanting Guide by facedemol PDF.pdf

Great work, thanks for sharing the document!

hello, while you're at it you may also want to change polarity to one of the 2 speakers (reverse the 2 wires soldered to it). I found out on my shift that they were soldered wrong by the manufacturer and they kind of cancelled each other. I cannot explain the audio terms in english but you may want to try and see if they sound better that way.
By the way, i wrote that guide, nice to see if it helps anyone

facdemol said:
hello, while you're at it you may also want to change polarity to one of the 2 speakers (reverse the 2 wires soldered to it). I found out on my shift that they were soldered wrong by the manufacturer and they kind of cancelled each other. I cannot explain the audio terms in english but you may want to try and see if they sound better that way.
By the way, i wrote that guide, nice to see if it helps anyone
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I am not sure I understand the speakers bit..... To my ears the speakers sound ok complete with stereo sound. When you say soldered wrong what does that mean. Plus If I am not wrong the speakers wiring is within the housing for the screen and not the lower part that houses the motherboards, keyboard etc. Maybe you could explain a little more I have a closer look. Thank you for the info.

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DIY TF101 Speaker replacement

I am thinking about do-it-yourself (DIY) speaker replacements for the TF101.
I pulled mine out and found the plug connector is part similar to JST 04SUR-32S. It is 0.8mm pitch so the wires have to be thin.
I have found a couple different speakers that fit. The square dimensions must be under 25mm x 11mm (12 might work), and thickness is unsure but must be under 7mm. I also will evaluate round at 11mm diameter.
Examples:
http://www.veco.com.tw/
square speakers
The part number on speakers in the tablet is "tek 1505". I think the 05 stands for 5 ohms, just a guess.
Thoughts or suggestions?

Let us know how it goes.. I have one speaker not working, I might want to try that too.
Thanks

Awesome. I am really looking forward to this. If you find some speakers that perform really good, let us know the specifications. I really would like some better speakers.

really looking forward to this, really would like some bass enhanced speakers...

Old news: Got my speakers pulled, need to test originals on an oscillator.
New news:
Got replacement speakers, but they are a little to big. Will see if they fit next time I open my tablet.
Got replacement plugs for wiring harness, 04SUR-32S. I think it is a match, and will test fit next time I open my tablet.
This morning I made a replacement wiring harness with some top quality AWG 30 wire and a replacement plug (04SUR-32S). The quality of my wire seems better than original, so I might replace the original wiring harness if the original speakers test okay.
I got my plugs from these guys: http://ecommerce.tlcelectronics.com/jst/04SUR-32S
So, I have a few extras (min order 100) - selling some. Recommend a few (5?) because it takes practice to crimp in the wires. Also, I might make a few replacement wiring harnesses - and sell some wiring harnesses instead.
At this point, I am not 100% sure they will fit in the circuit board but they *look* like a match to the original. PM me for info.

Any news on this?
I'm very interested in this too.

I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?

Bob Smith42 said:
I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?
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I replaced the speakers on my A101 a few months ago. I usually use Digikey for components, but Mouser had a surprising amount of speakers. Have you looked for stock there yet? In my testing, all speakers around this size have a sharp linear falloff under 100Hz, so I focused on getting the highest SPL efficiency, I think I ended up around 96dB/V.
P.S. Why are you bothering with new plugs for the speakers? I usually just desolder the old ones and use their harnesses. Not an attack, just wondering.

How difficult is it to disassemble and reassemble this tablet? I asked the guys over at ifixit if they were going to do a teardown of Transformer but they said they have no plans at this point. Does the battery look DIY if it is ever needed?

just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!

Wondering why you don't look at an enclosure/driver that works....IE the iPad...not the 2.
What did they do that ASus obviously didn't??
The transformer is a consumption device, and by god, as such it had better deliver sight , sound and recording of same with steller results...zsent mine back and returned to my Ipad2 for that very reason.
... hoping the crappy audio I/o will be solved with the next iteration...
I really wanted the Xformer to be a winner
Chas

divvet said:
just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!
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Update: I never got reply from speaker supplier. Could use more suggestions on suppliers. So, I will have to go with what I have found already - 2 sizes slightly off.
Great suggestion hesynergy. I will check out the iPad 2 speakers.
I am still planning to do mod in near future. If someone else wants to attempt you can PM me and I will make you a speaker wiring harness. You can remove the originals and try a second set without damaging originals.
Other distractions at the moment. I got two 4000mAh 7.4v batteries (8000mAh total) that might (should) fit in the dock. I need to disassemble the dock or tablet to measure the power connector so I might do speakers at the same time.
I will post everything when going on ....

found that link..
http://www.speaker-tw.com/manufacturer/speaker/rectanguler%20speaker.htm
admittedly, i haven't measured the speakers yet so dont know if these are anywhere near the size needed.
and also just realised this isnt a uk supplier, but none the less may come in handy.

just emailed asus asking for help. hopefully get a good response

I've been following this thread. I love hardware hacks. Too bad there isn't more of it spread among popular devices. I have to admit, I was hoping to hear a success story like, "I've done it! I integrated the port design from my Bose Wave radio and my Transformer has some b-b-b-bass!"
Till then, i'll keep lurking the progress here.

Hi Guys
I want to replace my speakers as well. The left speaker does not work
I sent my transformer for RMA and they sent it back and again the speaker does not work. On the paper I received they mentioned that they changed a sponge.
I can not be bother to send my transformer back to asus.
Have you found a speaker replacement and the hardness?

well asus responded with very little help. they gave me a list of possible sites to find the part, but none of them had it

My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.

Hi Divvet
Can you share these web sites that you got from Asus?
I think these speakers are really bad quality. I hope Asus to understand that
and to start replacing them with a better quality.
If someone find a good quality speaker and to actually fit I would be interested in
Lets see the results

vlasac said:
My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.
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Mine did the same but eventually it stopped, i took my tab apart and it didnt seem to be the connection itself, i think it was the actual speaker, unfortunately i dont know enough about repairing speakers.
And here you go prince...
www.asusparts.eu
www.notebookrepair.co.uk
www.psaparts.co.uk
www.expansys.com
www.computerbasement.co.uk
http://www.superbattery.co.uk/Asus-laptop-battery/
http://estore.asus.com/shop/category.asp?catid=363
www.replacedirect.com
www.laptopparts.co.uk/ShopByBrand.aspx?BrandDetail=Asus
www.jpcparts.com/m/100/ASUS.html