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Can't flash 3.17/ 3.16 after installing XDA devel ROM

I installed the XDA developers ROM flawless, but the GRPS browsing deosn't work, and I need it. I want to go back to the original ROM, or other original QTEK ROM, but when I run the installer it stops after "waiting 10 seconds.." I tried 2 different ROMS I've found inthe forum, the UK [email protected] 3.17... and the 3.16...
How can I go back? Is it possible? Please developers help me
Thanks

yes, it's no problem to flash (downgrade?) it to O2 3.xx,
I am not very sure what happened in ur XDA, but I suggest try to use Image Tool to burn the O2 rom.

what's the image tool?
Is it different from the installer I tried?

OK, here is the reason:
B coz the rom which from xda-developers is base on qtek rom, so the id of ur XDA has been changed to qtek's id, once u want to install the rom from O2, the upgrade program found a different id and refuse to upgrade it.
u can:
use Image tool to write the ROM from O2
or
run adaptRom.exe in ur pc to update the ROM from O2, and then u can 'install' it from ur pc to XDA

how exactly I use the ADAPTROM?
I run it from the pc and nothing happenned. (A dos window opened and closed immediately) In which directory should I run it? Or is it from the mobile device through the pc? Please explain me.
The other thing is that I didn't understand correctly the process with the ROM image tool. I copied the ROM from the QTEK to the SD, and then I wrote in the SD the upgrade. Now the pc doesn't recognize de SD, I can't even format it and I'm too afraid to put it back in the XDA.
ANy ideas what should I do? I even tried Isobuster but it didn't read it.
Esteban

Copy adaptROM.exe to same direcory as installer (under "Program Files", called "RUU", "Programme A" or somthing similar.
Go to this directory using the command prompt, and then run adaptROM in that directory.
Run "Programme A", it will not complain anymore...
We're working to make this easier...

i am facing the same problem
hello dear xda-develpoers .... i have the same problem but i have the qtek and i flashed it with the new o2 rom with the xda-developers 1.1 but i cant go back to my orgeinal qtek rom ..i have triyed copying the adaptROM.exe to same direcory as installer (under "Program Files", called "RUU" then i have tryied to flash the rom but nothing changes can u please help me....thanks very much

I hope you also ran adaptROM, and not just copied it. First run adaptROM, then "Programma A"...

Who can give me their T-Mobile number so I can dl the upgrad

hi,
Sum1 here who a T-Mobile subscriber? I have a T-Mobile PocketPC that I need to unlock tho I'm not a T-Mobile subcriber. I need a T-Mobile mobile number to get the upgrade at http://www.t-mobile.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/download_popup.asp
Or if someone already downloded the upgrade where can I download it without keying-in the mobile number? Thanks.
BTW, I have a question, if I download the upgrade, can I now use the XDAunlock.exe file here (is my ROM automatically updated)? My ROM version now is 3.14.40 ENG. I'm having trouble with the ROM updater here since im not linux literate.
Email me at [email protected]. Thanks a lot

I already downloaded the TMobile upgrade. Can somebody tell me if this upgrade will indeed upgrade my ROM to the correct ROM version with wirelss modem feature to I can use the XDAunlock.exe to unlock my xda? Thanks

The answer is NO, the latest TMO upgrade is 4.01.00 and it has no wmodem.exe application. If you need to unlock your device, go to www.xda-developers.com/XDAunlock/ and use the tool there.
If it doesn't work, try the kitchen at www.yorch.net and cook a new 3.17 based ROM and flash your XDA and unlock it, then you can upgrade to TMO 4.01.00 later.
BTW, the TMO upgrade affects the RSU part. So, unless you are a TMO user you better use the .nbf file only with either SD card or use the XDAtools to flash your device.
Good luck.

Hi Biso,
How can I "cook" a rom? http://kitchen.romanweb.com/kitchen/index.php when I go to that website, the only thing needed to be selected are the 3.17.03 ENG O2-Euro (6656 kB available) and XDA-developers AutoConfig data (113 kB) under it. and the unlocking option right? This wil be the first to use my pocket pc device, which option should I select under How would you like your ROM?
installer EXE
zipped NK.nb1 (SD-card flashing)
zipped NK.nbf (advanced users)
and should I do anything on the NBF header string?
Thanks man.
If I use the intaller EXE file, how will I "flash" it on my device? What are the differences between using the exe,nk.nb1 and nk.nbf? Thanks again.

I notice that above the page there is an indication, by default when I go to the page (without checking or unchecking anything) the top of the page states:
space in ROM: 6656 kB
used: 7729 kB
free: -1072 kB
*overload*
Should I limit my ROM on 6656 kB (meaning that I have to uncheck other options)? My deveice is an XDA 1. Thank you.

Hi ...
Yes, you have to uncheck some optional s/w till the guage line is "Green".
If you are not familiar with the SD method, just select the EXE type. It will generate a 15 MB exe file which you should download it to your PC. Connect your XDA to your PC throught the cradle and ActiveSync and run the exe file while the cradle is connected to the power supply and follow the instructions on the screen.
Good luck.

Thanks man for the quick reply.
Sorry I'm getting confused. Should I transfer the exe file to the device and run the exe file on the device?
Thanks again

The exe file runs from your desktop, your xda will need to be synced with your pc before running the exe.

Thanks so this is what I have to do:
First sync my device (cradle connected to the power supply) and after synching, run the exe file on my desktop computer (no need to transfer on my device or anything?). That's it?
Is this fail-proof? Will it not damage my device if ever there was an interruption or sumthing? How can I make sure that I can go fail-proof? Kinda worried coz I just got hold of my xda 1 (T-Mobile edition), I'm a palm user before. Thanks
BTW, my PocketPC Version is 3.0.12039 (Build 11178). ROM version 3.14.40 ENG. I don't know if my PocketPC is 2002 or 2003. I'll be using the yorch.net ROM (http://kitchen.romanweb.com/kitchen/index.php). All compatible?

ROM 3.14 is a PPC2002 one and all ROMs on Yorch.net is WM2003 except the 3.17 one.
Just to ensure it's a safe process, remove the SIM and SD card from the device and stop any running applications on your PC.
Good luck ...

Thans Biso. How bout a step by step guide? Pls pls pls? Id really appreciate it man.
Like
1. Sync the device (Power connected to the cradle)
2. Run the Rom Exe file
3. etc.
Just to be sure. BTW, is the exe file really just 150KB? Is that all I need to unlock my device?

Hi ...
There is nothing really needed more than what you just wrote:
1. Connect the XDA to the cradle and sync while the power is connected.
2. Run the EXE file and follow the instructions on the screen.
BTW, the EXE file should be at least 15 MB, seems your ROM was not "cooked" well .... try again

Ohh ok. I downloaded twice and all I got was 150kb. how will I know that the ROM i got is "cooked" well so I can be free of troubles. Can you just give me a link to the right/"well cooked" ROM? Thanks man.
One more thing, should I run the ROM EXE file while my device is synching or after the synch?

it's still 150 kb. Here's what it says when I view the log
./mkrom.sh: ../../kitchen.local/mkrom-inc.sh: No such file or directoryno files for configid 26220739Cannot fit files in given sectionsError splitting files

seems there is something wrong with the kitchen work space ... it happens sometimes ... no big issue.
You may try this kitchen as well http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
P.S: run the EXE file after the device is synced

which one should I pick? Pocket PC 2002 ROM or Windows Mobile 2003 ROM. And what's the difference. Sorry for my ignorance. Thanks for the replies.

Biso,
Can I use an MMC card for flashing? I MIGHT be able to borrow an MMC card. Also, I dont have a card reader but I have a digital camera which I can use to transfer the ROM image from my desktop computer to the card. Would you think it would work? Thanks again man.

will the exe file below work for me?
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
and
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
This is my Device's Information
ROM version: 3.14.40ENG
ROM date: 11/26/02
Radio version: 6.18
Protocol version: 324e4
Pocket PC Version 3.0.12039 (Build 11178) (Don't know if this is 2002 or 2003 pocketpc)
Pls reply. thanks

Hi ...
1. As the figure tells, WM2003 is the latest than PPC2002.
2. I can recommend to use TMO 4.01.00 as I have it on my device for almost 3 months now with no problems so far (few things have to be tweaked tho), but I heard good news about AT&T 30.09 ROM as well.
3. I can't confirm that MMC can replace SD card. I saw some threads on this but no final results.
4. The answer is NO, the only way to move the NBF file to the SD card is either a card writer or by using XDAtools with the XDA cradle. I don't think the card will be recognized by the bootloader otherwise.
5. SER-V12 is a PPC2002 ROM and useful only if you need to unlock your device (which I believe it's already unlocked).

No I just want to unlock the device, that's it I don;t really want a ROM upgrade, just so happens that I need to have a ROM upgrade to unlock the device
SO I can use the SER-V12? Thanks a lot.

Help please using XDAtools as I am a dummy!!!

Sorry folks but I have already posted this and don't know how to delete the previous post. after I reviewed the previous post I don't think I made myself clear enough. Please accept my apologies. But would appreciate help on this.
I have read the majority of the info on XDAtools on the forum and installed I believe correctly. I currently run on Win98SE. I have installed Jeff summers version of XDA tools. And though I think I understand what I am doing I am not totally convinced. Before I embark on cooking roms and upgrading etc I would like to be able to do the following:
1: Dump my current rom from my device to my PC I can do this using
XDAtools OSImage. But have noticed that I can only appear to dump
this as NB1(windows CE(*.nb1) type files if I try to call this NBF I get
the following errors:
”error opening C:\program files\xdatools\bootloader_v5_15.nb0ea for
reading. the system cannot find the file specified”
”error opening source bootloader from C:\program
files\xdatools\bootloader_v5_15.nb0ea. error opening target device”
Is it possible to dump my ROM to a file called ‘xxxx.NBF’? or must I stick with *.NB1? this is not a problem as long as the NB1 file can be reloaded.
2: When I try to upgrade my ROM by using OSImage tool and selecting
source as:
‘C:\PROGRAM FILES\XDATOOLS\BINARIES\ATT160204.NB1’
Select destination as ‘device memory (via Programme A) ‘
When attempting to load an ‘NB1’ ROM from my PC to my device memory
(via Programme A) I always get the following message:
”Programme A not found - run with --register error opening target device”
I originally ran the ProgrammeA with ‘--register’ when first installed and tried numerous times since. Can someone please help as I am sure it is something simple I am missing. I only want to be able to use XDAtools to dump and restore ROMs.
I have tried searching for a solution but to no avail. Any help appreciated.
Thanks in advance John.

May you tell your current ROM version and device type?
Some ROMs do not accept the EXE or the XDAtools with NBF files upgrading methods. You may have to use the SD card flashing in this case.

Thanks Bis
Thank you Biso007 I am currently running A.30.09.ENG and my device type is an XDA1. But I believe the problem is associated with XDAtools ProgrammeA as it cannot find the specified files. Though I have followed all instructions for definition. There is probably something simple I am missing. You see I only want to be able to use XDAtools to dump and restore Roms without the need for SD/MMC cards.
Thanks John

Try downloading the XDATools from Jeff Summers site, it has all the missing bits, including the required batch file :
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe
That's from the sticky XDATools thread, probably read through there and you will find most questions answered if you continue to have problems.
Remember though that the SD card method is the preferred option, and if you burn any T-Mobile ROM's the SD card is *required* to reverse that.

Re: Thanks Bis
jdoherty76 said:
Thank you Biso007 I am currently running A.30.09.ENG and my device type is an XDA1. But I believe the problem is associated with XDAtools ProgrammeA as it cannot find the specified files.
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XDAtools cannot work with WM 2003.
and you no need to backup A.30.09.ENG (ATT USA version WM2003), you can get it from online!

cgigate said:
XDAtools cannot work with WM 2003.
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is that confirmed ??

Biso007 said:
cgigate said:
XDAtools cannot work with WM 2003.
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is that confirmed ??
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Yes, it for sure!
XDAtools only works with Pocket PC 2002 or some test version WM2003.(<4.0.11)
It cannot work with WM2003 official release (AT&T A.30 or T-mobile).

Thats weird, I am positive I used xdatools to program my sd card through reader writer after downloading the official WM2003 upgrade, in fact I must have used that method because I had to seperate out the radio stack and program just the ce rom, I have no other tools to do this.

XDAtools only works with Pocket PC 2002 or some test version WM2003.(<4.0.11)
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I think you'll find that it only does *not* work with T-Mobile WM2003 ROMs. That's only because they lock up their OS to try and prevent us from changing ROMs. I don't think that's the case with any other manufacturer. I also think it doesn't make any difference whether it's WM2003 or WM2002, it solely depends on whether the manufacturer locks the OS.

Thank you cgigate & ebswift re XDAtools/WM2003
Thank you Cgigate and ebswift maybe this is why I am encountering problems with my download and restore of my ROM. I inadvertently choose a WM2003 AT&T rom to practice with. Maybe I should have chosen a PPC 2002 ROM to test??
I thought I had a problem with XDAtools and that I did not have all the correct links/files in place. Maybe I should dump my ROM and try restoring a PPC2002 and then re try my test. Thanks again guys.

i used xda tools with the AT&T WM2003 rom on my uk o2 xda with no problem. I wanted to keep my old radio stack as it was working fine and just used the os upgrade file, via SD card.
I would recommend updating activesync to 3.7 if you are doing it via the XDA cradle.
maltloaf

Did you use XDAtools to copy direct to device
Thank you Maltloaf, when you upgraded your rom did you use XDAtools directly from PC to device or copy the file onto your SD/MMC card and use the bootloader program to load ?? If so maybe you can answer the problem I am encountering. Thanks john

i have flashed twice (had to go back to 2002 for a short while)
both times using the SD card/bootloader method and I transferred the file onto the card using xdatools in the xda/cradle

Thank you Maltloaf
Thank you Maltloaf this seems to be clearer now, but in the context of upgrading etc XDAtools is only being used to copy the file from source to SD/MMC card. I was under the impression that XDAtools did not require the use of SD/MMC card. But maybe it's a matter of finding out what works for you. John

well xdatools should be able to flash directly to the xda as far as i know but it's always the safest way to do it sdcard style

Thanks to all
My thanks to all you helped with my recent questions. Thanks John

Trouble to install provider rom to xda-developers-rom

hi,
thanks to the support on this site i was able to unlock my o2 xda. the new rom of your special xda-rom was installed. as it is only in english i would like to have a german rom again..... downloading and installing the o2 or t-mobile updates always failed. the rom-image wasn't found or the active sync-connection failed.... is there a german tool available?

cook 4.00.33 or 4.01.19 based ROM in the kitchen and use the SD method

o2 rom german
thx for your quick help. downloaded rom kitchen yesterday. but there is no executable file resp. can't find my handheld in the winzip unzip-folders.... furthermore i am a beginners and did not really understand how to use the sd-card. if i try to install the progamme a from o2 i always get default "rom image not compatible" or even "can't establish active snyc connection" (even if xda is connected and syncronized the other data correctly.

I think your choices are either to get used to the English OS, or to look around a bit more on this site to learn the SD-method.
I would personally opt for the first choice, but being from Sweden I really don't have a choice. There isn't such a beast as a Swedish WM 2003 for the xda :-(

SD method is quite easy .. cook ur ROM as .nbf file ... copy this file to the SD card using the xda with XDAtools or a SD reader/writer .. insert the card in ur xda and goto the boot loader screen .. it will automatically flash ur ROM

Unlock SIM (Pocket PC Phone Edition)

Hey Guys,
My friend gave me a pocket pc with phone edition. When I tried to insert my sim card it asked me to the unlock code. My friend used this mobile for T-Mobile sim card in US.
Here is the ROM Versino: 4.01.16 ENG
ROM Date: 02/04/04
Radio Version: 6.25.02
Protocol Version: 324e4
After typing my PIN code it asks me to unlok the sim.
What can I do to resolve this problem
Thanks,
bm_t

Try the XDA unlock tool. You can find it on the website.
I have unlocked tmobile using that tool. However if it gives you problems unlocking.... I would suggest installing the xda rom and then try.
I am going to unlock a new Tmobile on tuesday. If this does not work you can get in touch with me on any chat and I will walk you through the process.
lemme know if you need anymore help.
Cheers!
Diki :lol:

Thanks Diki for your reply.
I have tried XDA Unlock and XDA2Unlock but failed.
When I tried XDA2Unlock it reports some error like COM2 0X..... (Hex #)
You have seen my ROM version and Radio version. How do i install new xda rom .
I only have the USB cable. Do I need a serial cable?
thanks

As much as i know, it will not work for you to unlock your device.
xda2unlock is only for the second Version of XDA (MDA II, MDA II,...), so you have to use the xdaunlock tool.
there are several postingsa, that unlocking will fail with your radioversion.
Maybe they have changed the code in this version.
There is a guy (cgigate) that promise he is able to repair and unlock all devices, but personal i don't believe this.
i believe changing ROM will not change anything. But you can try it. Look for the XDA deelopsers special ROM 1.2 or use the 3.17.03 ROM and the unlock tool.
But flashing a device could be dangerous.
Changing the radioversion is also possible, but the risc to end ata paperweight is very high...
Stefan

Hello LumpiStefan,
Where do I found 3.17.03 ROM. I have tried in your site(Romkitchen) but I couldn't able to download.
http://lumpistefan.dynsdns.org
After selecting the ROM and some additional softwares, I clicked the 'Build Rom Now' Button but nothing comes.
Can you help me with this?
thanks
bm_t

bm_t said:
Where do I found 3.17.03 ROM. I have tried in your site(Romkitchen) but I couldn't able to download.
http://lumpistefan.dynsdns.org
After selecting the ROM and some additional softwares, I clicked the 'Build Rom Now' Button but nothing comes.
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Cooking process works well for me.
Maybe you have to wait a few minutes more.
Cooking process can be up until 5 minutes.....
Otherwise try again the Build Rom now button....
HTH
Stefan

Hello LumpiStefan,
I have tried serveral times but I couldn't able to download the ROM.
Do I have to register or download some other application to download your ROM.
Here is what I did to download the ROM
After Entering ur site LumpiStefan, http://lumpistefan.dynsdns.org
I clicked PPC 2002 and select 3.17.03 with XDA developers (Default ).
and clicked 'Build Rom Now' button.
When I clicked 'Build Rom Now' button, the only thing that changes is the graphs (right hand side of the page). I have tried many times but only the graphs changes.
Did I miss something (some procedures or .....)
thank you for ur time

After clicking cook rom you should have the option to specify where to download it.

Hello,
I have 128 kbps line but couldn't able to download the rom for the site.
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
It doesn't respond the site except changing the cpu ... graphs
Is there any other site to download 3.17.03 Rom for XDA-I.
thanks

bm_t said:
I have 128 kbps line but couldn't able to download the rom for the site.
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
It doesn't respond the site except changing the cpu ... graphs
Is there any other site to download 3.17.03 Rom for XDA-I.
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You can try http://xda.weblink.net or use http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe to download the xda developers ROM based on 3.17.03 including the unlock tool....
I think you're the first guy that has problem to download a rom from the kitchen.
What for browser are you using? Have you ever tried another ROM?
HTH
Stefan

Hi LumpiStefan,
Thanks for ur reply.
I have checked both sites (i.e http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/ and http://xda.weblink.net)
I have tried also another rom but the same problme. I have tried to download the rom from Linux and win XP pc.
I have aslo downloaded http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
but when I executed this file from my win XP machine ( I have connected my XDA through USB cable and installed ActiveSync 3.7.1) it reports error (something like Unable to find the XDA Please connect Serial/USB cable)
I'm really really stuck with this phone
thanks

it seems that you don't followed the correct procedure.
This link it's a wizard and could help you: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/UnlockWiz

Hello Folks,
I have seen a post in form.xda-develpers.com that this file http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
will not work because my phone (i.e PC2003) (the adaptROM is not compatible with PC2003)
He said the only option to Unlock the SIM is only using this xdarit.exe application. Since my SD is 8 MB, I can't load the ROM with this space.
As far as I have seen the situation, my only option is getting the serial cable.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks

bm_t said:
As far as I have seen the situation, my only option is getting the serial cable.Thanks
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Get the serial cable.

SIM Lock
Hi,
Every time I run "XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe" I get a message, error getting data, and then the program close.
plz advise. thanks

'error getting data'
I had the same error. I read somewhere on one of these posts that
there was some capatibility between Programme A.exe and Activesync 3.7.1.
Apparently you could downgrade your activesync version or use XDATools to push the nk.nbf file down to an SD card and flash from there. Use winzip or something else to extract all the files in the SER installation exec. In the English folder you'll find the NBF file to use.
In XDATools put this as the Source, target is the SD card in the device. Go to bootloader utilities (power+soft reset and maybe press contacts) and depending on your bootloader version it may detect you have a flash image on your SD card. Follow the instructions on the pda to flash the rom.

Hi rhodwyn,
Thank you for your support, but still I cannot downgrade my "BootLoader" to "5.15" with every boot I'm geeting "5.22" even after loading the spocial edition ROM.
Also, I cannot find (XDArit & Wallaby bootloader version 5.15 files) in the neet.
Please advice.
Thanks.

Hi ALL,
I did unlock (SIM LOCK) my phon.
Thanks you all for help & support.