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I don't know if this is a fault or something I didn't expect but would be glad to here how others have found it.
I have had the ameo for a few weeks and have noticed that if I use a bluetooth or wired headphone everything seems to be fine on a phone call. However when I try to use it as a speakerphone, whoever I am speaking to complains that my voice is breaking up (I have a strong signal strength). It appears that if there is any response from the person I call or any noise in their background then the microphone at my end is interrupted making my voice unintelligible. I know the manual says to use a headset but what is the point of having a speakerphone if you can't use it? Does anyone else have the same problem or have I got a faulty unit?
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I don't know if this is a fault or something I didn't expect but would be glad to here how others have found it.
I have had the ameo for a few weeks and have noticed that if I use a bluetooth or wired headphone everything seems to be fine on a phone call. However when I try to use it as a speakerphone, whoever I am speaking to complains that my voice is breaking up (I have a strong signal strength). It appears that if there is any response from the person I call or any noise in their background then the microphone at my end is interrupted making my voice unintelligible. I know the manual says to use a headset but what is the point of having a speakerphone if you can't use it? Does anyone else have the same problem or have I got a faulty unit?
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I get this on full volume in a small room. Turning the volume down a bit usually seems to solve it. I think the mic is pretty sensitive and can get flooded a bit too easily.
bobg said:
I don't know if this is a fault or something I didn't expect but would be glad to here how others have found it.
I have had the ameo for a few weeks and have noticed that if I use a bluetooth or wired headphone everything seems to be fine on a phone call. However when I try to use it as a speakerphone, whoever I am speaking to complains that my voice is breaking up (I have a strong signal strength). It appears that if there is any response from the person I call or any noise in their background then the microphone at my end is interrupted making my voice unintelligible. I know the manual says to use a headset but what is the point of having a speakerphone if you can't use it? Does anyone else have the same problem or have I got a faulty unit?
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I have used both the Ameo and the Dopod rom on the same device and can conirm that this problem is worse on the Ameo rom
Could other dopod users tell their experiences regarding hands-free calling
bobg said:
I don't know if this is a fault or something I didn't expect but would be glad to here how others have found it.
I have had the ameo for a few weeks and have noticed that if I use a bluetooth or wired headphone everything seems to be fine on a phone call. However when I try to use it as a speakerphone, whoever I am speaking to complains that my voice is breaking up (I have a strong signal strength). It appears that if there is any response from the person I call or any noise in their background then the microphone at my end is interrupted making my voice unintelligible. I know the manual says to use a headset but what is the point of having a speakerphone if you can't use it? Does anyone else have the same problem or have I got a faulty unit?
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I experienced something similar but only when the caller has a lot of background noise on their end. It's not a consistent problem here so I assume it's not the same issue you're having.
Thanks for the replies - it looks as if the unit is working to spec but that there is a 'built-in' problem when using the phone as a speakerphone. I didn't get this on the spv2000 I replaced with the ameo so wasn't expecting it. Background noise does seem to trigger it - I just tried phoning using the speaker phone to call an answerphone and it worked fine with clear audio at the other end. I think a day or 2 of playing with the volume to minimise the problem is the next step. I'll post back when I can be more definite but would be grateful for any other opinions.
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BobG
On my U1000 the mic works fine in speakerphone mode. There are no brakeups of voice even while walking mid-traffic. Yes, I have to speak loud but that is expected with background noise over 85db.
However, the speakers do not return sound very loud at all (for a speakerphone). I have to lean way forward and almost put my face on the screen to be able to clearly hear the other side (even in a totally quiet environment).
Would have been great to have had a decent speaker phone, but as it is I'm sticking to my bluetooth headset.
The 2 drawbacks with bluetooth is the answer delay, it takes a good 1 second before the connection is established between the headset and phone. The second thing is the sensitivity of the mic, it picks up everything that goes on around you, and drowns out your voice. I have to move the mic close to my mouth if there is other noises going on around me (but this is most likely a bluetooth headset problem, and not related to the U1000).
OK several calls later and after fiddling about with the volume I've found that the best way for this problem to be overcome is to set the 'in call' volume to its lowest! I've also set the main unit volume to about 40% but that shouldn't really have any effect. It's odd that the best way for the speakerphone to work is on minimum volume - fine for single calls but not much use if I want a few other people to listen in. However this is a very small problem now and the benefits of this device hugely outweigh this small drawback.
Hi there,
I want to have a bluetooth headset ready to go when the Kaiser is available from AT&T. I will primarily use it to make calls, but if there is a good combo stereo/mono headset for listening to music too that would be great.
My current bluetooth headset is the Jabra model with Caller ID. The Caller ID is nice, too bad the headset is bigger than a Vogon destructor fleet.
Any thoughts? On style, functionality, and compatibility with the Kaiser?
Thanks in advance!!
I just ordered the Pulsar 590A but I don't have a kaiser yet. I will deffinately be using these with the kaiser though and expect them to work 100%.
This set seems to be one of the top bluetooth stereo headsets. I only wish it was behind the ears instead of over the head.
For non stereo I would try the jawbone.
I vote for the aliph jawbone. I love mine http://www.jawbone.com/
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I vote for the aliph jawbone. I love mine http://www.jawbone.com/
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are you currently using your Tytn II with the Jawbone? if so, please share your thoughts. i'm using a BlueAnt Z9 and it's works well with the Tytn II, but the volume is slightly lower than when i use it with my Trinity.
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are you currently using your Tytn II with the Jawbone? if so, please share your thoughts. i'm using a BlueAnt Z9 and it's works well with the Tytn II, but the volume is slightly lower than when i use it with my Trinity.
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It works great. I love the aliph. It has wonderful noise cancellation and it raises and lowers the volume depending on the environment Im in. If I am talking on the headset and an unexpected noise comes about I do not miss a word of the conversation. The headset adjusts the ear piece volume right away so that I hear perfectly and likewise the other party doesnt hear all the noise around me due to the noise cancellation sensor. I love to drive with the windows down on the highway but if some one calls I have to quickly roll the windows up,,,,,,,, not so with the aliph jawbone. I hear them well and they never ask me, what? what? even when I'm doing 60 with the windows down. I sound like an infomercial,,,,,,
And with this prog you can stream your music to the headset http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1400141&postcount=6
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I just ordered the Pulsar 590A but I don't have a kaiser yet. I will deffinately be using these with the kaiser though and expect them to work 100%.
This set seems to be one of the top bluetooth stereo headsets. I only wish it was behind the ears instead of over the head.
For non stereo I would try the jawbone.
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Yes Platronics Pulsar 590A
I'm a huge Jawbone fan, however, the volume is definately lower with The TyTN II that is was with Hermes. I still use Jawbones, but in the car I'm finding it harder to hear my callers. It's only in Hi Noise areas that this is now a problem. Callers have not complained to me about my voice quality. I really hope that this gets fixed with a software patch from HTC or here!
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I'm a huge Jawbone fan, however, the volume is definitely lower with The TyTN II that is was with Hermes. I still use Jawbones, but in the car I'm finding it harder to hear my callers. It's only in Hi Noise areas that this is now a problem. Callers have not complained to me about my voice quality. I really hope that this gets fixed with a software patch from HTC or here!
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Same here. Callers say I sound exactly the same from 1 second to another when I quickly end the call and switch to the treo 750 then call them back. They sound the same except a whole lot quieter. So then I turn the volume up about 3 notches to max and that brings them to a comfortable volume so that I hear them easily but then since the headset is on max and the phone is on max I get white noise and distortion.
With my treo 750 if I dared to put the call on max is would be uncomfortably loud but the voice quality would still be better than the Kaiser. That shows that the 750 could even go louder before creating white noise or distortion. So I would say that the quality and power of the audio of the Kaisers (software/hardware?) for transmitting mono audio is 1/3 weaker than the treo. I suspect users who report different haven't thoroughly tested this.
BlueAnt Z9
I had a Jawbone but it really didn't fit my ear very well. And if it doesn't fit well, it doesn't work well because it needs to rest on your jaw-bone. My favorite part was that its LED was the least annoying of all BT headsets.
That being said... I love the BlueAnt Z9. It works great, the volume is about the same as the Jawbone (sadly). But it has great noise canceling. It has a great universal fit earpiece. It's smaller than the jawbone. And you can hold two buttons and turn off the LED flashing all together. It's a great design and I prefer carrying it, wearing it, and using it WAY MORE than the Jawbone.
The Ultimate Upgrade for a Jawbone
I have a Jawbone headset and it is the best headset I have ever used. The one problem I had was the fit. It didn't fit in my ear comfortably, the ear loop hurt after a while, and the ear piece never fit in my ear well.
I found the ultimate upgrade to the Jawbone http://www.averysound.com/as.jawbone.html
It is a custom made ear piece made for the Jawbone. They send you an epoxy putty that you jam into your ear. It hardens in about 10 minutes and you mail it back to the company. In about a week and a half, they send you a custom ear piece in the shape of your ear.
Once you have it on, it fits firmly in your ear, it's comfortable and the volume is great. I don't need the ear loop at all, it fits that well in my ear. It is so comfortable that I forget I have it in my ear. The volume is so good and clear you have to turn it way down, because the sound is going straight into your ear canal.
The downside is that it costs $67. I thought long and hard about it. But I found another guy who had gotten one. He convinced me it was worth it.
I have the Plantronics 590A Stereo bluetooth headset, the sound is amazing and i think that it is one of the best stereo headsets out there. If you prefer something that goes behind the ear, then check out the Motorola HT820, i dont think it's as good as the 590A, but it is much cheaper and depending on your preferences, you might want a behind the ear more.
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I have a Jawbone headset and it is the best headset I have ever used. The one problem I had was the fit. It didn't fit in my ear comfortably, the ear loop hurt after a while, and the ear piece never fit in my ear well.
I found the ultimate upgrade to the Jawbone http://www.averysound.com/as.jawbone.html
It is a custom made ear piece made for the Jawbone. They send you an epoxy putty that you jam into your ear. It hardens in about 10 minutes and you mail it back to the company. In about a week and a half, they send you a custom ear piece in the shape of your ear.
Once you have it on, it fits firmly in your ear, it's comfortable and the volume is great. I don't need the ear loop at all, it fits that well in my ear. It is so comfortable that I forget I have it in my ear. The volume is so good and clear you have to turn it way down, because the sound is going straight into your ear canal.
The downside is that it costs $67. I thought long and hard about it. But I found another guy who had gotten one. He convinced me it was worth it.
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wow that's crazy. I may have to look into getting something like that...looks pretty awesome!
I use a Jawbone headset also, and I too have found it to be on the quiet side when compared to using it on other phones. I just turn the volume up a couple notches, and no problems.
As for those of you who the Jawbone didn't fit properly... Mine came with four different over the ear pieces (Reg & Large for left and right ear) and five different pieces that go in your ear. It took me a little while to find the one that worked best for me... but since then no complaints.
As for the custom shaped ear piece, $67 is more than I spent for my Jawbone to begin with.
I've have a set of Moto HT820 and they out "perform" any set I've had to date. The only draw back is the bulkiness, so they are only used on long trips and around the house.
I've also tried the Plantronics Pulsar 260. DON'T buy these. The volume is not near loud enough, even in a quiet enviroment.
I am trying a set of Moto S705 They are very loud and the sound quality is better than expected for ear buds. Still not the base reproduction of the HT820's, but still good. Also it has a built in FM radio, which for me I really like. I miss having that with one of my old Nokia's. The only negative so far is sometimes callers complain I sound muffled. Don't know if I have a bad set or what, but will report back if I find out.
Does the caller id function work with tytn II?
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
I have a Jabra BT620s, which is also A2DP. It is total crap. I would look at a different brand. Motorola headsets are supposed to work well.
Jabra BT8010 and Tilt
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Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
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I have the 8010 and it with all due respect to the previous poster, it works great. I have used it with the original shipped ROM and several cooked ROMS (Currently on Sleuth's 6.1 ver 3) and it worked well with all of them. I will say it seems to work the best (longer distance from the PPC) with the radio included in Sleuth's 6.1
Can either of you provide more specific information about the issues you had with it? I've never had a bluetooth headset before so I might not even notice.
My BT620s sounded like a bad record. The pitch kept shifting very subtly, but it is INSANELY annoying and makes it completely un-listenable. Also, it would drop audio for about 5 seconds of every minute, which is very annoying. It had trouble with pairing, when you turned it off, it would sometimes refuse to re-connect to the phone. The call quality with it was OK though. I sold mine and bought a pair of Motorolas.
i have the bt8010 (only for a week) and the head set is pretty good
i have had the headset cut out on me i think there is interference from the cell or wifi. but it doesn't happen all the time. the battery life is good i have played at least 9 hours of music (stereo) straight before it need a charge. the sound quality is ok, there is some distortion on the extreme high and low notes.
but it is wireless
the headset need to be angled in a upward angle in order to be conformable (at least for me) i was able to were it for 3 hours with out a problem
the cord between the ears some times get pulled by twisting my neck, it's about 1 inch too long
i have used it in a noisy production floor and the person on the other side head me fine, a little downed out but they didn't hear the hum of the loud machine in the background and because i had the stereo on i head him better then on my phone, and yes you do hear the person on both right and left sides.
i was going to get a Motorola (mono) one but i got this one because the talk time and standby life is longer (according to specs) and this one has stereo option.
this is the only headset that you could switch from work to play
i am happy with it, and other around me like it.
btw i got mine refurbished.
I have the BT8010. I've had it for about 7 to 8 months now, maybe longer.
I really do not like the headset at all. It has great sound so don't get me wrong. If sound is all you are interested in then go for it. But if you are looking for fit or the ear loops to stay on then they aren't the ones.
For me, the fit for me is horrible and the headset hurts because I have small ears.
SECOND and this is the BIGGEST LET DOWN, the ear loops keep falling out.
So if you get it go ahead and call and order some extras right away. You can contact them via phone I think and they will send you a few. Just keep one in your wallet and one in the car and some @ home, and some in your briefcase.
The ear loops fall out way too easy for my tastes. I'm currently looking for another set of A2DB enabled headsets.
I use it for some 4 month. Mostly monoaural. It's ok, but...
Pros: VERY good sound quality (noise reduction, environment supression), good battery lifetime (up to 3 days), clear display, handy controls.
Cons: the ear hanger (? sorry for my english) slips out from the unit causing unit to fall, fast dial numbers are too short (cannot add cell codes e.g. enabling my phone number identification before dial number), does not fit perfectly into the ear - the sound is good when I puch it with my finger toward my ear, but listening to the music is a bit painful (not full spectrum due to distance between speaker and ear-hole that cannot be, at least in my case, adjusted).
Overall: good design/performance. Better quality then BT800 (my previous earphone). Cannot be securely and properly adjusted toward ear.
has anyone got more insight on this headset... i am looking in purhcasing it.
I use the 8010. The only complaint I had was the ear hook kept falling out, like the poster above. What I did was to superglue the hook in. Now, it doesn't fall, and it fit tighter to the ear, making it better to hear conversations and music. I lost one of the hooks before, and when I called jabra to order another set of hooks, they sent me out a Free pair, no ? asked, so support is great. Now, you can find the headset at a very good price. I paid $100 for mines, you can find them for $40-60.
Jabra BT8010 connection
I also have problems with the ear loop falling out. But it's not that often.
What I find annoying is that it doesn't automatically connect to my HTC prophet as stereo headphones when I switch the Jabra to music mode. I have to manually go into bluetooth settings and click on Jabra BT8010 to set as stereo headphones. Does anyone have a fix for this? If I don't do the above steps, AVRCP is able to work, but music will still come out of the phone. It would be nice if I can just listen to music with a push of the mode button without having to fumble for my phone.
i have em .. and to be honest i cant really complain
the only problem ive actually had is like everyone else has mentioned...the ear loop comming off..but thats so small in comparison to what they have to offer.
imo :
the sync from my car to my home bt system is awesome!
the clarity is superb
volume, settings, caller id and the phonebook work flawlessly..and to top it off i got em off of ebay for 25 bucks brand new with a reciept..
cant beat it!
i ahve jabra bt620s and sound is too low, how can i increase the sound on bt headset
the best bluetooth I know so far is Itech. They don't sell here but you can find it on ebay. A2DP, bluetooth stereo, cliping on you cloth, looks like a ipod shuttle on you collar.
Does anyone actually use the phone as a phone? I'm finding that the echo cancel really limits the quality of the phone. I can hardly carry on a decent conversation in the car using the supplied headset.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Try this: connect the headset. Call your phone from another phone. Listen to both at the same time. You can clearly hear when you talk that the phone is suppressing noise.
What I find is that when I'm in the car, it actually seems to suppress the volume of the person on the other end! So, it can be very frustrating as I miss words that they say.
Combine this with AT&T's marvelous AGC (where if you don't talk, it cranks the volume so that when you do talk, it blows the person on the other end away!), and the total quality of the call is horrible.
I've been using cell phones for almost 20 years. This is the worst phone quality I've ever experience.
When I use the phone directly for calls, everything sounds clear and at a consistent volume with one exception, while waiting for the other party to answer, the call ringing tone goes up and down in volume.
I've paired 3 different bluetooth headsets to the phone and found that the volume in my headset goes up and down quite a bit. Usually it's the worst at the beginning of the call. Sometimes I can't hear the other person answer but then it levels out a bit and the volume fluctuations are less extreme. I've tried an old Sony Ericsson, a Jabra Extreme, and have settled on a Plantronics Voyager Pro+. The Voyager is about the best I've tried but still exhibits the volume fluctuations but not as bad. It also supports A2DP so I can listen to podcasts through the headset.
I use it with the Sync system in my ford f150 and have no problems at all. It works great. I dont use headsets so..........only my sync system
I thought it was just me. My Plantronics 925 does this as well. Calls from the phone are fine, but the headset volume cuts in and out. Is this a bad Bluetooth stack or other problem? I think I remember another phone (WM 6.5) that had to get hacked to fix this. I'm a little miffed on this. Did anyone at Samsung or ATT test the bluetooth on this phone before selling it?
I have had very good call quality whether using the "phone as a phone", the phones speaker phone, or a blue ant bluetooth headset. I have had poor call quality only when trying to call someone in very low signal area. That has only been once. Otherwise overall clarity and volume have not been an issue, actually phone volume on high is too loud for my ears!
adding to my earlier post. I exchanged my Focus due to an unrelated issue. Both handsets had the same fade out issue with the bluetooth headsets. I've experienced it on every call so I don't think it's signal related. I don't see any volume fluctuation at all when using the handset without the bluetooth headset. I've tried the same three bluetooth headsets on my wife's iPhone 3GS and all work fine. I've also streamed at least a couple of hours of podcasts from the Focus to my headset and the volume is perfectly level. Whatever the issue, it's only related to phone calls. Very frustrating.
I've experienced the same issues. I have an Aliph Jawbone Icon. Before I updated the firmware on it I could barely hear someone on the other end. With the new jawbone firmware I have the ability to control the volume in the headset and only when I have it turned all the way up does it work ok. I do, however, still have trouble when people are talking that when the first start and or finish talking what they say seems to get clipped. Further, the volume seems to fade in and out. Also, if I'm using the AT&T navigator software and have my headset attached it will give me directions through the headset, but the end of every direction gets chopped off. So, the avene or street part of a direction doesn't come through.
I've been following this issue in a few different forums. Today a moderator in the Microsoft Answers forum jumped in and said they were experiencing the same problem and they would escalate the issue.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...4ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132?prof=required
Can't recommend this phone
I was so excited when I first got my Focus. I thought it was such a huge step forward for MS mobile and actually had some chance at being mainstream. Sure it lacked a few features but there was the hope that MS would update the phone quickly. After all, they seemed to have made such phenomenal progress in getting the phone to market, seemed like fixing a few things and adding a few features would be a no-brainer.
Well, here we are 3 months later (Apple released the first update for iPhone 1.0.1 only one month later) and lots of rumors but nothing substantial on the long-awaited update. We'll see cut/paste but it's not at all clear if they will address anything else.
Here in CA we have a law that says we can't talk on the phone unless it's hands free. For the first time since that law was imposed, I've been regularly breaking it. I can't use a handsfree headset. Even the wired one that comes with the phone is so damn inconvenient that by the time I get it going, the caller is long gone. So, seemingly MAJOR features like BT headsets appear to get no notice at all from MS. I've looked through all the threads and there's nothing from MS. They don't even acknowledge the problem.
Looking at the thread from mcraine, I don't see where MS is going to do anything about this. Also, don't see any indication that it's part of any forthcoming updates.
Too bad. I thought this MS had a chance with this phone but they are blowing it big time. Momentum is gone now. If we have to wait another 3 months to get the browser fixed then the phone is destined to be like the Palm Pre. Good phone but can't keep up with the 'big' boys. This horse jumped out of the gate and was looking really good for the first couple of strides but then completely fell down and they are trying to coax it to get up again.
same issue here as well. mine is only a month old. it is not as noticable when sync'd to the car, but still noticable. and as said before more at the beginning of the call. if there were not issues, it would not be M$
I just noticed that the volume control does nothing when I have the phone on speaker. The bar showing volume does move and the numbers change but the volume stays the same. Fortunately it appears to be at the loudest setting which is better than having it too quiet.
I have done the tweak through the diagnosis codes that gave the speaker a louder upper end as it was too quiet before. Not sure if it was working before that. Anyone notice anything similar?
I'm not sure if you're targeting this question to folks that have done the mod, but my phone is stock and the volume control works fine with speakerphone.
I noticed something to that effect to. I was on the boards tonight to actually roll back those changes I made for the audio headphone output.
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I set my defaults back, and now the speakerphone volume works again. It was not working while the settings were in place to increase the volume.
Well, I'll likely just keep the modifications in place. Before, the speakerphone wasn't loud enough to be useful while driving. Only once did I want to turn it down and that's when I found the problem.
This wouldn't be an issue if I could get the bluetooth to properly pair with my built in bluetooth in my truck.
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Well, I'll likely just keep the modifications in place. Before, the speakerphone wasn't loud enough to be useful while driving. Only once did I want to turn it down and that's when I found the problem.
This wouldn't be an issue if I could get the bluetooth to properly pair with my built in bluetooth in my truck.
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What's not working with the Bluetooth?
It will indicate that it has paired with the hands free kit but nothing happens when I send or recieve a call. Normally the radio will shut off on the display will read "phone".
One thing I noticed yesterday is that if I am on a call already when I start my truck the "phone" indicator does come up on the radio and the speakers go quiet but the conversation never switches from the phone to the truck radio. As mentioned above it does nothing if the truck is already running when a call is placed.
The hands free works perfectly with my old HTC Tilt so no issue there. I have also succesfully paired the Focus with a regular headset so it does work. So there is something in the communication between my Focus and the hands free kit.
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It will indicate that it has paired with the hands free kit but nothing happens when I send or recieve a call. Normally the radio will shut off on the display will read "phone".
One thing I noticed yesterday is that if I am on a call already when I start my truck the "phone" indicator does come up on the radio and the speakers go quiet but the conversation never switches from the phone to the truck radio. As mentioned above it does nothing if the truck is already running when a call is placed.
The hands free works perfectly with my old HTC Tilt so no issue there. I have also succesfully paired the Focus with a regular headset so it does work. So there is something in the communication between my Focus and the hands free kit.
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Ok, not the same as my issue. Mine will not play any of the A2DP through the bluetooth of my car. It's a wiring issue in my case though. I'm hoping Microsoft enhances Bluetooth options so I can choose to only enable handsfree and not A2DP like I can on other phones. Otherwise, all my phone's system sounds are missing, so I cannot hear anything when connected through bluetooth on my car (except calls).