Hi guys, after browsing through this forum I unlocked my xda 2 (many thanks) and have now tried my 3g sim card in the phone and it works fine. So far as I understand, I will effectively have no on air content e.g. gprs connection, gps wap, or any of the 3g stuff. Can I do either of these things: alter the gprs settings so they work with 3g... or using pocket internet explorer, dial up to a provider such as freeserve...
Many thanks,
JB
sure
just get 3g's
access point name
for their wap, grps and mms service
add them to your connections in settings and
maybe get the login and pass if 3g use that and you are set
speaking of that, since i am using 3g in australia, and while using the sim card on gsm phones, it is roaming on vodafone network.
does that mean if i have voda's wap, gprs config, i can use the gprs service?
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Hi guys, after browsing through this forum I unlocked my xda 2 (many thanks) and have now tried my 3g sim card in the phone and it works fine. So far as I understand, I will effectively have no on air content e.g. gprs connection, gps wap, or any of the 3g stuff. Can I do either of these things: alter the gprs settings so they work with 3g... or using pocket internet explorer, dial up to a provider such as freeserve...
Many thanks,
JB
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Jim: i am new to 3G, are you saying that xda2 can support 3G and how does this differ from the norm GSM. Currently, i am on GPRS with GSM and does 3G works this differently. Thanks.
3g(UTMS) is the name of the 3th generation of mobil phoning
xda1 and 2 do not! support 3g you need a speciel 3g console to use 3g
it give a better bandwidth and they push it with video phoning
read more about 3g
http://www.3g.co.uk/
Rudegar said:
3g(UTMS) is the name of the 3th generation of mobil phoning
xda1 and 2 do not! support 3g you need a speciel 3g console to use 3g
it give a better bandwidth and they push it with video phoning
read more about 3g
http://www.3g.co.uk/
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what console do i need to make my xda2 3 G-able. Thanks
I unlocked my xda II with the software available on this forum. I then simply put the 3G simcard in the phone and it worked... comes up with the O2 network. However Three have now said that they have built in measures to stop this working now.... although I'm not sure whether this is true or not (I've tried 3 3g simcards in my unlocked xda2 and they all work and two of them are less than three weeks old). Now I've never heard of it happening to an XDA 2 before, but there are rumour that putting the three simcard into a 2 or 2.5g phone can physically damage it. Anyway, I've had no problem, so give it a try if you feel brave (I take no responsibility ). (BTW you don't get 3G content... and I couldn't get GPRS working! so its a phone only).
Cheers,
Jim
o2xda2
only way i can think of is getting the xda2 backpack which have a cf
slot and get that UTMS /3G cf card and use that
where Can I buy a UTMS /3G cf card for my XDA II?
where Can I buy a UTMS /3G cf card ?
i have no idea
read about it here
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1714
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Hi all
In the proccess of unlocking my phone and wondering if any one has got a 3 sim to work?? (as 3 contracts are better value)
and is it easy to do if poss.
Nice one
Jo
Try this for a start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3961&highlight=dual+sim
I have two SIMs working, without the need to keep popping them in and out of the SIM holder - all I do is turn the phone off and then on to get the other SIM (Flight Mode).
I do not know if 3 is possible, the case is very tight! Swapping them manually should work, but you will get bored of removing the back panel and battery every time.
Ian
Hey IanF
I think J0bo means a sim by the company known as 3 (lol)
Will it work in an unlocked XDA.
Don't see why not?
Sorry i cant confirm this.
If it does work, i doubt wether the Video facility will work, but the regular mobile calls should work, unless the sims are of a completely diferent design & therefore are not compattible with the regular sim holders.
Good luck mate
E
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but 3 is a 3G provider and as far as I'm aware they do not do GSM/GPRS. Therefore the XDAII with out a major change of circuitry will never work on the 3 network.
I'd love to correct you if you were wrong, but unfotunately, i don't know what i am talking about. lol
Regards
E
of cause you cant use UTMS on a gsm phone
i do know that 3g phones can send on gsm aswell when they are in places where the UTMS network is not supported but if they use normal sized and functioned sims which would work as gsm when placed in a gsm phone i dont know but i kinda doubt it
yes cause you can use 3g sim they work in 3310s for god sake lol and the pen phone
they use o2 for 2g and their own network for 3g you wont be able to use 3g capabilites but 2g will work fine
they dont work in some types of phone for some reason though but i think i remember seeing xda2 in the does work list
gaz
First of all, I would like to recommend a good psychiatrist...for going on the 3 network.
I was on 3G for 2 weeks. I only had reception for one of those weeks!
Wait a few years until there are some more 3G masts(above schools and churches!)
Also I tried a 3G sim in a 6310i but it didnt work.
i would asume that when ever the utms network dident have connection it would just roam over gsm using the network from other companies
i've seen those 3 commercials with video phoning
and i've seen the video phoning irl
there is a world of difference
irl the video is 100% not sync with audio
and the video look like an old Chaplin movie because of those
low fps
looks like it's soo bad the p0rn industry will not ever begin to use it before they make it faster
but it read an article where they tried a CF utms card in a pocketpc
that really did wonders for the internet speed compared to grps
when i tried my 3g sim i managed to get a signal with it but it was same as putting it in an ol nokia... the text messaging doesnt work.
when i tried my 3g sim i managed to get a signal with it but it was same as putting it in an ol nokia... the text messaging doesnt work.
Ghost Sim
I really like the look of the ghost sim but am confused.
Can you toggle between thc two sims just by selecting "flight mode"? If so, could the RADIO app posted on this forum be assigned to a button to do the same thing?
Presumably some of you clever chaps could write an app to do this (with a different wallpaper for the two sims).
Thanks
Dave
Doh!!
Should have realised this was talking about '3' !! Sorry.
Quantum - Yep - I am using that app actually, its very neat!
Ian
I can make calls with a 3G sim as the 3G network switches to o2 when it is unable to recieve a 3G signal, but I cant get GPRS to work, can any one help? has any one got a 3G sim to fully work with their XDAII?
I will post more info if required
Thanks
Jud
If im not mistaking, the data trafic is locked to a specifik 3G network?
if it were me i would ask 3 if they support grps
and if they did to turn it on
judsta said:
I can make calls with a 3G sim as the 3G network switches to o2 when it is unable to recieve a 3G signal, but I cant get GPRS to work, can any one help? has any one got a 3G sim to fully work with their XDAII?
I will post more info if required
Thanks
Jud
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AFAIK, if you are a Three customer, all of their services are available in proper 'Three' coverage areas.
BUT, they make it clear on their site, that in none Three coverage areas, coverage is then provided by O2 under a 'roaming' agreement Three have with them.
They point out that in these conditions, voice calls and sms are still possible (as this uses standard GSM, or rather CSD).
BUT, that picture messaging etc will not be possible.
This seems to indicate quite clearly, this is because a GPRS arrangement with them is not possible, or established.
Thus, in your case, a Three SIM card will work in an XDA (but only the OLDER ones allegedly, Three supposedly got sick of too many people buying them for just the high amount of free inclusive minutes and sticking them in their own handsets and incurring high roaming costs for Three with O2, so locked the newer ones), but GPRS is not available when in a none 3G handset, or in truth, on a none Three network!
Hi
Im on a Three network in Australia and i am able to use the three sim in my XDA however, I am unable to send sms as it cant read the sms function from the carrier sim. I have change to an optus sim and sms works on that, so im sure its just three's sim that doesnt.
Anyone having a similar problem ? and have a fix ?
Hi, I have Austrian 3 sim in my XDA II and GPRS works, however (of course) I am using national roaming partner's (A1) network, because XDA does not have UMTS radio.
Everything works OK. data, sms, email....
Buzz
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3965.html
Does anyone have any further information on whether a special 3G SIM card is necessary to use the HTC Universal? If this is true, it is terrible news for people who'd like to use it in the USA.
Does anyone have an email address for a decision maker for one of the US carriers (T-Mobile USA, preferably)? Maybe if we send some rational emails, they will decide to pick it up.
It will be necessary to get a new simcard to work on a 3G network... though the Universal will work with any sim card without the benefits of a 3G network (i.e. if you put a 2.5G sim in you will be able to use GPRS in it etc)
I have an Xda Exec on evaluation. I can confirm it works with SIM as well as USIM, without issue.
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I have an Xda Exec on evaluation. I can confirm it works with SIM as well as USIM, without issue.
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Pls tell us more...about USB Host fuctionalities etc... battery life...Wi Fi..Bluetooth.Can we listen songs over Bluetooth Headset...?
Any issues related to twisting and turning of screen...Pls
If your carrier offers a 3G network you can get a USIM for no money - or the cost of the SIM so you can access the UMTS network.
SIM - lets you access a GSM network (or an iDEN network)
USIM - lets you access a GSM and a UMTS network
RUIM - lets you access a CDMA network - in theory GSM networks too for roaming (mentioning this for brownie points lol )
Hi, I have been watching with keen interest the development of the Universal. I had the original XDA and the XDA2 but have been waiting for this 3G device before I upgrade.
I have one on back order, but not with Expansys. I have been watching Expansys wondering if I should get one through them instead of waiting however when I phoned them for some technical info about 3G networks the sales individual did not know anything about the "UK networks"!!!
So, does anyone know if you can take an unlocked, uncofigured, JasJar (such as those being sold on Expansys) and just configure the settings for 3G, or is it far more complicated than that.
I am sure I read somewhere that 3G settings need to be configured by the network, unlike GPRS which I have easily configured for my voda sim card in my xdas.
Well if it can be configured, anyone know the settings for the JasJar to use vodafone 3G ??
Cheers, Numb
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
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n1, thats good to hear. But did u have to configure any settings for 3G ? or was the phone already configured, and if it was already configured it who by, Expansys ?
If they are unlocked presumably you have to configure it to your chosen network ?
Thx fer the reply tho, can't wait to get mine now, you lucky devil.
Cheers, Numb
to make a long stiry short: settings for gprs and umts/3g are the same, no need to change anything, if you have your vodafone gprs set you are ready to use 3g as well.
cheers, lutz
re
:lol: n1 lutzh that is what I was after. Keeping my fingers crossed for early next week. Otherwise I may to try a different distributer.
Thx again for the heads up.
Cheers, Numb
Hi all,
Congrats for the nice forum. I got my MDA compact sim free recently which I used with my Vodafone UK sim card and it worked fine. However I have signed a new contract on 3G UK in Phones4you where I was convinced by the dealer that the sim card can be used to another sim free phone apart from the 3G Nokia 6680 I have taken. It seems that this was not true because when I insert the sim card in the MDA it says "Ivalid Sim Card" and I can't use it now. Do you know any way I could manage my problem? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you very much.
I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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Yes, they have good price plans, but I am really disappointed cause I can't use my MDA. Their sim cards seem to be locked and unfortunately I have no idea whether there is any way to make it suitable to non-3G phones.
The dealer lied.
3 will not allow non 3G phones because it involve cost to them. Three roam to O2's GSM (2G and 2.5G) when you are out of range of the 3 network and that costs them money. If you have a 2.5G phone like the Magician then it will be permanently roamed to O2 and they would make no money from you becasue they would be billed by O2 for your calls.
Don't forget you get a "cooling off" period on these contracts. Might be worth using it.
MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe this is true
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
Thank you all for the replys, it seems that unfortunately in UK it would be impossible to use 3G card on the MDA. As the 6680 has nothing in common with the MDA I hope my bills to compensate the inconvenience :mrgreen:
3G
Using a non umts phone like the magician to connect to a umts network seems to me a very strange and bad idea.
Wait until next year (not so long) and buy the HTC Hermes or the XDA version : it's a S110 with the features of a QTEK 9100 and umts and wifi and ....
GAINER said:
RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
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Yeah, an Israeli Orange sim card works OK on my Magician.
of course I couldn't use any 3G services... :roll:
3 is a UMTS-only network. All 3G phones in the UK are dual-mode GSM/UMTS phones.
Because the 3 network does not cover enough of the UK it has an arrangement with O2 so that 3 phones will 'roam' to O2 when out of 3 coverage. When they do this they use O2's GSM network. So, a GSM phone with a 3 USim would be permanently roamed to O2 as I said earlier.
An Orange USim will work in an Orange GSM phone. Orange (in the UK) have a GSM Network and are rolling out a UMTS network. When an Orange phone is out of reach of the Orange UMTS network, it simply uses the Orange GSM network instead. Now if you put a usim into an Orange GSM phone, it simply accesses the Orange GSM network and can't see the UMTS one. Oh and it will be able to use the 2.5G GPRS system as well.
A bit wordy but I think it's clear.
also remember folks thats "3" use a 5volt sim card unlike every other uk network that still use the old 3volt cards.