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I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy
Mine sometimes switches between UTMS and GRPS if I try connecting to anything, but only if I'm in a ****e coverage area (mainly at work).
BTW, I don't suppose u have call timers working right on hudson phone dash with the MDA Pro?
andykemp said:
I have the UK T-mobile MDA Pro and am having all sorts of problems with the connection to T-mobile. If I am sat at home I get 1 or 2 bars (50-70% according to Hudson Phone Dashboard) and this is fine unless I ask the phone to do anything, open software, menu, etc.
In which case the signal strength disappears completely and then the phone sits for 1-2mins until it finds the signal again and the process then repeats...
Has anyone else seen this or do I have a defective unit??
Cheers
Andy
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Andy,
I had something that looks a little bit like it. The phone kept searching for a connection when trying to work wit MSN.
I put my phone settings on : settings/phone/band and set network type to GSM, when I am in Holland. So don't keep it on "auto"
When I am here in Romania however I can switch it back to auto and do not have the problem. It switches to the battrery consuming UMTS however. If I put it back on GSM it stays on GPRS however.
Huib
I have already tried setting the phone on Manual GSM - 1800... which improves the speed at which it reconnects but doesn't seem to eliminate the problem of the disconnections...
I know the signal isn't fantastic here but I have an old nokia 6210 with a tmobile payg sim in it and that always has 1-2 bars and has never lost it's signal...
I just tried putting it back on Auto... Then open messages and right on cue it lost the signal...
What do other people think? Does this sound faulty to you?
Hello, without meaning to sound like a complete idiot, can anyone tell me if I will automatically get 3G connection on my o2 account, or do I need to contact them to enable it.
Because every time I try to make a video call, the Exec tells me that 3G is not available.
Or do I need a new SIM Card?
They sent me a new SIM Card with the Exec, but I have not fitted it. Do you think that I need to insert and activate it?
Many Thanks in Advance
Fatzzz
I also got a new SIM card when my Exec arrived and I had to call O2 to get them to activate it. They said this would happen within several hours, but in fact it happened within 5 minutes. The old card stopped working at exactly the same time, so don't go out without them both once you've called them!
You can only make video calls when your phone has locked on to the 3G network. You'll know when this has happened because you'll see a 'U' symbol next to the phone signal strength icon instead of the 'G' for GPRS. (U stands for UTMS.) Or, go to the phone dialler pad and check the network name.
Most people seem to struggle to find a 3G signal though, so it might all be a waste of time. Certainly here in Sussex I haven't found a signal yet.
Thanks SiliconS, do you know if there is a special plan to subscribe to, or will it work as long as it is in a 3G area?
Cheers
Fatzzz
I contacted O2 today to ask the same question (as well as get my new plan confirmed).
I was advised that I would need a new sim, which has been ordered and should be sent out soon, and once that sim arrives, I need to contact O2 and get them to enable the new SIM and disable the old one.
What they then advised me is that 3G would be used whenever it is available.
It'll work in Liverpool where I work, but from what I've seen, St Helens, where I live, won't work just now but is planned for future expansion although there is no date.
To be honest I doubt I'll use it too much as I permanently activesync with my laptop via Bluetooth and use that as an Internet connection.
Once a decent push email solution has been delivered I'll probably rely on 3G a bit more.
In London, I get U everywhere I go, don't know about other areas. It was rather amusing when the train passed Hither Green the U changed to G for about 10 secs then switched back to U again. So does it mean the transmitter somewhere near Hither Green doesn't support 3G?
it could just be that the signal wasn't strong enough to support UTMS.
For example, if I go into the office at work I usually end up on GPRS, yet if I go near a window I can use UTMS just fine.
Hope this helps.
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/
Check you O2 coverage
I am right on the edge of a coverage area however i am in dark blue but i get a very week signal from O2s UMTS network and a very strong signal from their GSM network.
I have real problems with using a data connection as i keep switching between the 2 networks and there is a delay while it does it. Also MSNM is really bad when it does this. At the moment i have set my Exec to just use the GSM network and ignore the UMTS one.
well I ordered a new sim from o2 to get 3g on my jasjar, and they sent me a normal gsm one (I didn't notice at the time, ended up hard resetting just to make sure I hasn't disabled it somehow!) So check when the SIM arrives that got 3G written on the side with the bubbles and not GSM! I infact ended up going to the O2 shop and getting one from there.
Flubster
is there a registry tweak to remove the roaming icon on my TyTN?
the registry hack from my Wizard does not work on the TyTN...
I am using the TyTN on Cingular in the US (Hawaii), and the roaming icon is constantly on even though I am on my home network. I did not get the roaming icon on my old Wizard, but I get it on the TyTN. Maybe this is because I am using the old AT&T Wireless towers...
any help on how to get rid of the icon? :?:
Hi,
What is the roaming icon, something similar to a radio tower?
I think I newer saw it...
It's your wifi trying to connect...
It disappears when your gprs is searching or online.
When you don't start an internet connection but only activate your wifi then you'll see it appear...
the roaming icon is a solid triangle that appears to the left of the GPRS (or UMTS) icon. page 23 of the manual also describes it as a roaming icon.
i got it once or twice on my qtek 9100 when i actually WAS roaming, but my TyTN displays it ALL the time
ok, I understand.
Did you check your "Phone settings" especially the "Range" tab (I'm not sure of the english word, it's after the newtork tab) ?
SkyyBoy said:
the roaming icon is a solid triangle that appears to the left of the GPRS (or UMTS) icon. page 23 of the manual also describes it as a roaming icon.
i got it once or twice on my qtek 9100 when i actually WAS roaming, but my TyTN displays it ALL the time
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I have the same issue with my TyTN in San Diego
Possible fix
I had the roaming indicator on all the time on my wizard. Was able to turn it off with the following reg change:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
DisableRoamingIndicator
Change value to 1
Try this might work for tytn..... still waiting for mine to arrive
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nakadm said:
I had the roaming indicator on all the time on my wizard. Was able to turn it off with the following reg change:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
DisableRoamingIndicator
Change value to 1
Try this might work for tytn..... still waiting for mine to arrive
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I tried this reg hack as soon as I got my TyTN, but it does not work. I don't know why they changed it...
I don't think just make the roaming indicator disable is the right solution. The device thinks its in roaming mode the because of that all roaming rule apply like Over the Air Sync schedule and so on.
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I'm having the same problem--I'm on Cingular in Seattle. I've tried the registry hack and it doesn't work, the roaming triangle never goes away. I'm assuming this isn't a problem as I'm clearly in my home area, but it would be nice to know what to do to it to make it go away.
T-Mobile (US) vs. Cingular SIM
So I popped a friends T-Mobile (US) SIM into my TyTN and I don't get the roaming triangle like I do with my Cingular 3G SIM. So I'm wondering if the issue with the roaming triangle is with the SIM, or something that can actually be changed in the phone (like the previous reg hack that worked on the Wizard).
I've looked everywhere in the registry, tried changing some of the settings in the "OperatorNames" key and also the stuff in \HKLM\System\State\Phone but no luck yet.
Does anyone know if this behavior is phone/reg based or SIM based?
I wonder if it has to do with Cingular's (in the process of converging) blue and orange towers.
Well i'm in Toronto, and everyone seems to be in different places that this is happening to, so i don't believe its a "carrier" or provider problem. thats my theory... also.. i tried the hack above the LM/drives/Built itn/RIL but cannot see any options in the reg that even suggest hint at disabling the roaming icon.
This sux. I can't believe HTC customer support is as bad as it is.
How can we get to the bottom of this?
I have upgraded to the most recent HTC TyTN ROM (1.35) and the roaming icon is now gone. The new radio ROM (1.18) appears to have fixed this issue.
It is difficult to understand, why it is a “problematic issue". Basically, Roaming triangle appears to facilitate you, that you’re not roaming in your Home PLMN (Own Operator NW). It means you’re visitor in an other GSM Network (VPLMN) and you are registered as Roamer . This is nice to know with Roaming triangle if Roaming charges applied OR NOT.
I get the roaming icon everytime I install a ROM that is a non-Cingular ROM. My phone is an JasJam, when I first turned it on I had a roaming symbol, calls to imate and Cingular were unsuccessful. Installed a newer Cingular ROM (1.34) and the triangle went away, then I installed an HTC ROM (1.35) and symbol was back, then I installed Cingular's 2.06 and it was gone, radio v1.33.
Now I've installed WM6 Vanilla which keeps whatever radio you were using before and the symbol is back.
I'm convinced it has something to do with the OS talking with the SIM so there has to be a regedit somewhere to correct this. I really hate having this thing warn everytime I initiate a OTA Sync. Don't let this issue die its still out there.
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It is difficult to understand, why it is a “problematic issue".
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Not a problem if it is a true indication. But it is misleading when you are registered on your own network.
Seems I got same problem in Hong Kong.....previouly me using Vodafone 2G service....now changed to Hong Kong 3 2G/2.5G(i-mode) service...I can connect to 3(2G) network but a roaming icon keeps showing all the time.....I am bit nervous the roaming charge now T_T
And I am using Dopod818Pro in Hong Kong
was there ever a resolution for this?
Remove roaming triangle... Solved.
I had the same issue with the roaming triangle... I'm not sure where I found this but it works perfect for me. I use Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) to import it to my registry, then I just restart the phone and the roaming indicator is gone.
Good luck to you and vote Ron Paul!
Mark
A new symbol has begin to show on my phone. Its the triangle shaped one in the top of the screen. To the right of the text "TELIA S Telia".
Anyone who knows what the symbol means?
normally that means that your X1 is in Roaming - that you are using another operator than you default operator.
i have this symbol all the time, while i am driving through Germany or Italy and logged in to one of my home-network's roaming partners
While using 3G in Sweden you can be on another operators net without extensive charges. They have a roaming agrement because they use oneanothers cell stations, e.g Telia - Tele2. The problem is that WM sees it as roaming and displays it as such.
on8a said:
While using 3G in Sweden you can be on another operators net without extensive charges. They have a roaming agrement because they use oneanothers cell stations, e.g Telia - Tele2. The problem is that WM sees it as roaming and displays it as such.
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Ok, is there a way to prevent this and only use telias net?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463458
you could try that
LFCFredda said:
Ok, is there a way to prevent this and only use telias net?
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Not that I know of, except turning off 3G and only use GPRS.
Anyway, it's only the symbol thats annoying, unless you use some program that prevents data connection when roaming. The price is still the same.
Every time I go abroad I turn off the automatic update features of these programs.
Hi All,
Done a quick search on this and can't find anything relevent, but i apologise if a thread already exists.
Really a question for those in the UK on the t-mobile network. Have any of you attempted to sign up for the orange 2g roaming service yet? I signed up, recieved the confirmation text, replied to it, and received the final confirmation. However, I'm not sure it's working. The signal seems no stronger, and i still drop in my house.
Obviously i'm posting this in the android section because i'm running android myself and am wondering whether anyone in the same boat has managed to get roaming to work. Should the fact that we're on a non-official OS running off the sd card make a difference?
Oh and for completeness, i'm running shubcraft 1.5 rmnet.
Cheers fellas!
I'm quite happily flip flopping between Orange while at work and T-Mobile for everything else...
works like a charm for me though you do have to stick the phone into Airplane mode after selecting the different provider for the data to work ...
Jezwick said:
I'm quite happily flip flopping between Orange while at work and T-Mobile for everything else...
works like a charm for me though you do have to stick the phone into Airplane mode after selecting the different provider for the data to work ...
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Many thanks for the reply Jezwick. So, just for clarity, you're manually selecting each provider as and when required? Because i can do that, i think. When i select orange though, whilst it registers with the network fine, i get a little "R" above the signal bar (any ideas what that means?) And the speed appears to be limited to Edge. Orange have a very strong signal round here, so i figure i should be getting GPRS really.
It's the auto-switching i'm not totally sure is working really. Is there any explicit indicator that it's flipping on it's own? Or do you just observe a generally better 2g signal, rather than say, a very weak 3g one? Round the house, my phone is still trying to make do with 1 or zero bars of 3g. I would have hoped it would flip over to orange more or less all the time under those circumstances. Nothing to stop me manually selecting it i guess though...
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Many thanks for the reply Jezwick. So, just for clarity, you're manually selecting each provider as and when required? Because i can do that, i think. When i select orange though, whilst it registers with the network fine, i get a little "R" above the signal bar (any ideas what that means?) And the speed appears to be limited to Edge. Orange have a very strong signal round here, so i figure i should be getting GPRS really.
It's the auto-switching i'm not totally sure is working really. Is there any explicit indicator that it's flipping on it's own? Or do you just observe a generally better 2g signal, rather than say, a very weak 3g one? Round the house, my phone is still trying to make do with 1 or zero bars of 3g. I would have hoped it would flip over to orange more or less all the time under those circumstances. Nothing to stop me manually selecting it i guess though...
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The R is indeed for roaming that's the way it works if your not on your 'own' network.. The 'flipped' service will currently only work at GRPS speeds at the moment but should be 3G by the new year
I have noticed mine flipping automatically but only once or twice in the last few weeks but only when I get NO signal from the current service.
Jezwick said:
The R is indeed for roaming that's the way it works if your not on your 'own' network.. The 'flipped' service will currently only work at GRPS speeds at the moment but should be 3G by the new year
I have noticed mine flipping automatically but only once or twice in the last few weeks but only when I get NO signal from the current service.
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Understood - thanks for the info Just done some reading and apparently EDGE is faster than basic GPRS. For some reason, i'd always assumed the reverse. Looks like the best option is just to have it always on orange whilst at home and use wifi for data (which i do anyway to compensate for the poor signal). Cheers!