Database Users

Can we upgrade/downgrade using serial (LTP1)?

I was running ROM 3.20.06 and Radio 4.21.00.
I read everything on here about upgrading to ROM 4.00.05 and figured that I was ready to upgrade. Many others experienced no problems when upgrading from 3.20.06 to 4.00.05.
The upgrade procedure was complete and I hard reset.
The XDA turned on and a white screen with "Test Only", "Not For Sale", A Microsoft Windows Powered logo and the Platform information appears and that is all that happens. In other words, it is ****ed and won't do anything.
Does anyone know whether ROMs can be installed via, LTP1 seeing as though the USB will not communicate? Will I get the same problem?
A reply would be nice.

Forgot to mention...
I forgot to mention that I will be connecting my USB cradle to a USB-2-LTP1 cord. If that helps anyone reply then sweet.

Get yourself an sd card reader writer and an sd card of 64 meg or more. Use the tools on the forum to program the rom to sd card, then you enter bootloader mode and your phone will burn the rom from there. As for the lpt port, no way that I know of.

Bootloader mode?
:roll:
Is it possible to change the XDA into bootloader mode if the XDA is not functional? (I cannot do anything, just a white screen is what I see)

Give it 15-20 minutes
I know that this sounds stupid, but don't mess with it for about 15-20 minutes. It seems that if the radio stack is screwed, the OS takes forever to boot. I have been doing OS installs for several months, both directly and via an SD card, so I was comfortable with the process. I had NOT ever done a radio stack upgrade as I had the latest (& only one) that AT&T had released. With the "official" rollout of WM2003 by AT&T, I decided that I liked my custom 2003 ROM that I had cooked a couple of months ago, but I did want to try the newer radio stack. Well, all hell broke loose. At first, I had a PPC that would not boot. So, I did a new flash of the OS via SD chip. It seemed that it too was locked (ie the initial splash screen with OS info at bottom and then it seemed to freeze). Then I read in another thread that someone had noticed it took about 15 minutes for the thing to reboot after a failed radio stack upgrade. And so after giving it time, sure enough, my PPC did finally boot.
The bad news is that I have NOT been able to get the radio stack reinstalled. I have followed all the tips and suggestions, but no luck. If you find that yours finally does boot, then goto start, settings,system info and see if there is info about the radio stack. If it is blank, then you have not radio stack and that is why the long boot cycle.

Radio stack
Ok, when I performed the upgrade, I believe it was only the ROM that upgraded. The radio version is the orignial XDA upgrade which was released to the public as a genuine radio (B) upgrade. I'll look into the SD boot load. Will it automatically install from the SD card? Anyone got any idea?

WANTED: AT&T SX56 virgin ROM file

Can somebody please help me.
As I posted in this post, I scr3wed up my buddy's AT&T SX56.
I have got the thing past being dead, by putting a custom ROM on it.
However, I really need to get this thing back into AT&T mode, with either 2002 or 2003 on it. I will then upgrade to 2003.
Does anyone know where I can get a virgin AT&T ROM so that I can re-flash his system.
Thanks.
-=Nick=-

nickpoore said:
Can somebody please help me.
As I posted in this post, I scr3wed up my buddy's AT&T SX56.
I have got the thing past being dead, by putting a custom ROM on it.
However, I really need to get this thing back into AT&T mode, with either 2002 or 2003 on it. I will then upgrade to 2003.
Does anyone know where I can get a virgin AT&T ROM so that I can re-flash his system.
Thanks.
-=Nick=-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check out Yorch.net

Okay, I'm making SOME progress.
Firstly thanks for the youch referral from kwlandry.
I had found the rom kitchens this afternoon while looking for solutions...
I'm busy flashing the ROM from SD for the umpteenth time.
It seems that whenever I flash the SX56 with an AT&T 30.09 ROM, then I get a hang on reboot.
I am currently trying the 4.00.05 ENG ppc2003 from yourch as it seemed to be non-specific (and a non-TMobile) one.
I seem to have the latest Radio stack (RA.33.02), and have been able to get a couple of ROM's to work.
Does anyone have ANY idea why the AT&T 30.09 ROM would fail in the same place every time? This is definately an AT&T unit, at is has the logo on the front. The phone was originally locked, but has been unlocked during the process.
I'm busy reading/searching the forum, but haven't seem to find this problem anywhere.
Thanks for ANY help.
-=Nick=-

I fixed many XDAs with your problem!
you could send the XDA to Siemens to repair/exchange.

Try flashing back to the original ROM via sd method then upgrading to wm2003.
You can get a copy of the 2002PPC ROM at siemens website. Cut & Paste the following link.
http://www.my-siemens.com/MySiemens...%2FMC%2FMC%2FSX56POCKETPCPHONE%2Fdesc,00.html
Extract the file to a directory, then use the XDA OSimage tool to write to SD card then use bootloader to write to ROM.
After a successful flash follow the same to upgrade to wm2003
You can also try this kitchen http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/

BTW - the phone has to be fully charged. That might be the cause of your hanging issue.

I have posted this in answer to your other post, try using a diferent memory card for upgrade to wm2003, I had this problem when using an mmc memory card to upgrade to WM2003, it hung every time even though it seemed to complete correctly, I changed to a different memory card and had instant success.

Yes! I agree also. But, though "mmc" and "sd" cards are similar, in this case the process calls for an sd card. The size doesn't seem to matter, I use a 512mb, however some people have had issues with device detection. So, a 64mb card is recommended. Make sure it is formated before use. And again a fully charged phone is unlikely to have problems so save your battery till all requirements are in place. Also DO NOT DO A HARD RESET! untill you have a successful install. You could lose you GSM ROM.

Thanks for all the replies.
I have successfully flashed back to the original rom; I downloaded it from yorc.
Having got the device back up and running, I tried the upgrade to 2003 again; using the Siemens software in the cradle solution. Didn't work.
The battery was definately fully charged (90% or higher) at all times.
I will look to try another SD card, and see if that makes a difference, it just seems strange that the card works to restore WM2002, and either card or USB approaches to upgrading to WM2003 fail.
The card I've been using is a very generic 128MB MMC card.
Again, thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Have SX56 - upgrade to 2003 - now fried

Newbie here...
Got a SX56 (used) and it was working fine. Saw that there was an upgrade to 2003 and like the moron I am, I jumped in with both feet. Now the device will only go to the initial screen where it shows the rom/radio versions.
I downloaded the tool, and tried to restore from SD but it still doesn't work.
My bootloader is v5.15 it seems.
At this point, I just want the thing to work again in 2002 or 2003. If someone has some ideas or a ROM image to go back, please let me know
dbrady

Maybe you´ve got the same problem than an other guy here in this forum. He have big problems to install WM2003 on his device.
Since you´re getting message of ROM AND Radio version it looks quite good.
I would suggest that you get a new ROM maybe from my kitchen (http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org and install it on your device using an SD-Card and the XDATools.....
HTH
Stefan

Thanks. I tried earlier but I wasn't sure what one to choose. I have an English Version SX56 that was sold through AT&T. It shows Wallaby Bootloader 5.15 now. It shows the correct rom/radio info for Win2003 but won't boot.
What version should I try? I'd like to get 2003 if I can, but would be willing to go back to 2002 to get a function phone again.
Thanks for all the help
P.S. - I was using Mozilla and it never actually downloaded anything when I tried.
Dean

Downloaded a new ROM - thanks - but same problem. Now the unit shows new ROM version but still never goes any further than the boot screen.
Any other ideas?

Steps please...
How did you load your new rom? Please post the steps so that we can try and figure out what went wrong.

Wallaby radio stack upgrade problem solve successfully!!

Hi everybody
Yesterday i had a problem trying to upgrade my wallaby to radiostack 6.18 tu RSU 6.24.
When i was doing the upgrade with the rsu files and the upgrade was in 88% in the screen appears:
" Upgrade problem, please reset" (something like that :? )
When i did the reset i got the boot screen and in the corner only i get the ROM version. The radio stack dissapears and then im not able to have my wallaby works.
Then i get into the wallaby bootloader version 5.15 and i got the following message:
GSM-ERROR
I reset the device a lot of times and nothing. i think " god i lost mi phone"
and then reading posts and posts i solve the problem in this way:
1:- I cook a rom image in an sd card using Xtools and a card reader instaled in your pc.
2.- when you finish insert the sd card with the image, enter again bootloader by holding On/Off and doing a soft reset
3.- Bootloader should tell you something that OS is detected on your SD-Card
4.- Press Action Key to install the ROM
5.-After finishing do a hard reset
Now your ROM should be installed on your device.
6.- turn off your device, maybe you will have to press the power button several times.
7.- Remove your SIM card
8.- Turn on your device, wait about 15 minutes and you can see that the device goes out off that frezze screen and gets into the align screen setup.
9. When you get the TODAY screen connect your device in the cradle and make a new asociation for your device
10. get into the windows file with the explorer of activesync on your pc and copy the 4 radio stack files in the windows file of your deviceq and the .exe file in the \Windows\StartUp folder of your device.
11. Restart the device and the upgrade will begins automaticaly in the back ground
12. when it sucsesfully done, do a soft reset and you must have your radio stack upgrade done and your wallaby completly recovered.
13.- Insert your SIM card again and enjoy
I hope this guide will help you
Rememeber to copy the correct radio stack in your device, i used the RSU 6.24 because i have a PW10B1 wallaby. check your version in the label in the rear part off your device
[/b]
if this tip results succesfully to someone please let me know. thanks

Well done, not many people manage to repair corrupt/missing radio stack, thanks for the details also, it may help resurrect other dead Wallabys.

which RSU to use
hi,
mine is PW10A1 so which RSU to use

Re: which RSU to use
maddawood said:
hi,
mine is PW10A1 so which RSU to use
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ftp://[email protected]/Wallaby/Radio_Stack/RSU_V4.16_PPC.zip
HTH
Stefan

which rom you used?

Re: which RSU to use
LumpiStefan said:
maddawood said:
hi,
mine is PW10A1 so which RSU to use
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ftp://[email protected]/Wallaby/Radio_Stack/RSU_V4.16_PPC.zip
HTH
Stefan
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That link isn't working at the moment - I could sure use it

Link should be:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/Radio_Stack/RSU_V4.16_PPC.zip
Stefan

Thanks Stefan - I saw elsewhere what the password was, and noticed it was missing from the URL. I got the RSU file and have finally managed to get it on to the XDA, but still fails every time it restarts... the old 1% problem... Do you know if it is easier to update the radio stack from an SD card? The XDA is running the special edition ROM, which has at least given me back some control of the device.
Thanks in anticipation
Phil

PhilHirons said:
Thanks Stefan - I saw elsewhere what the password was, and noticed it was missing from the URL. I got the RSU file and have finally managed to get it on to the XDA, but still fails every time it restarts... the old 1% problem... Do you know if it is easier to update the radio stack from an SD card? The XDA is running the special edition ROM, which has at least given me back some control of the device.
Thanks in anticipation
Phil
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same problem, every time my device restarts, and stop at 1%. So I am wondering if Stefan can help us to give us solution in this case.

Worth the risk?
After reading this ordeal, is it worth the risk to upgrade a working radio stack? Does the telephone work substantially better after the upgrade?

Try other RSU's
kinowong said:
PhilHirons said:
Thanks Stefan - I saw elsewhere what the password was, and noticed it was missing from the URL. I got the RSU file and have finally managed to get it on to the XDA, but still fails every time it restarts... the old 1% problem... Do you know if it is easier to update the radio stack from an SD card? The XDA is running the special edition ROM, which has at least given me back some control of the device.
Thanks in anticipation
Phil
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same problem, every time my device restarts, and stop at 1%. So I am wondering if Stefan can help us to give us solution in this case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, have you tried using other RSU versions? I had the same problem too (1% fail) using 4.16. After giving up on the 4.16, I tried RSU 4.21 (exe). One shot and I was able to re-flash my RSU. What I did differently was to remove the AC power while doing the RSU upgrade (the exe file prompted me). Hope you get your wallaby up and running again.

I try alot of times but it stop at 1% - full batery got the same result.
help.

Re: Try other RSU's
Thank you for your help. I have tried many vensions of RSU, such as 4.16, 4.21, 6.24, 6.25, etc. But all of them showed 1% mistake.
morph751 said:
kinowong said:
PhilHirons said:
Thanks Stefan - I saw elsewhere what the password was, and noticed it was missing from the URL. I got the RSU file and have finally managed to get it on to the XDA, but still fails every time it restarts... the old 1% problem... Do you know if it is easier to update the radio stack from an SD card? The XDA is running the special edition ROM, which has at least given me back some control of the device.
Thanks in anticipation
Phil
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same problem, every time my device restarts, and stop at 1%. So I am wondering if Stefan can help us to give us solution in this case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, have you tried using other RSU versions? I had the same problem too (1% fail) using 4.16. After giving up on the 4.16, I tried RSU 4.21 (exe). One shot and I was able to re-flash my RSU. What I did differently was to remove the AC power while doing the RSU upgrade (the exe file prompted me). Hope you get your wallaby up and running again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Re: which RSU to use
LumpiStefan said:
maddawood said:
hi,
mine is PW10A1 so which RSU to use
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ftp://[email protected]/Wallaby/Radio_Stack/RSU_V4.16_PPC.zip
HTH
Stefan
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi guys i have a pw10a1 too, and my radio version is 4.21, i really think it sucks. so is it a good idea to downgrade to 4.16??? or will it only be made worse. or can i use the 6.25.02 version? or is that for another phone type.. PWIEW srry for all the questions .. if 1 is awnsered. i'm happy

[Need Help]ROMs won't boot after initial setup

I hope someone here can help me to make my LEO work again.
Im having huge problems with my HD2 after flashing a ROM with Extendir. While setting up the device with Preset Installer my PDA went to deep sleep and failed installing all cabs.
After reboot it hung on the screen where Radio Version etc. is shown. That is why i made another Hard Reset. That let my phone boot again but after initial setup it hangs again at that place.
I tried another ROM and experienced the same problem. After that i went back to shiped with spl and radio. Not even that fixed the problem.
I tried MTTY with task 29 and reflash stock. It stays the same! After initial setup my phone sometimes hangs before or after boot animation. sometimes it boots till sense is started and hangs there.
Does anyone have a smart idea how i can make my leo run propper again?
Thanks for help.
edit: im not sure if its Extendir. It could be something else, too. I tried flashing via usb and storage card.

Ultimaex said:
I hope someone here can help me to make my LEO work again.
Im having huge problems with my HD2 after flashing a ROM with Extendir. While setting up the device with Preset Installer my PDA went to deep sleep and failed installing all cabs.
After reboot it hung on the screen where Radio Version etc. is shown. That is why i made another Hard Reset. That let my phone boot again but after initial setup it hangs again at that place.
I tried another ROM and experienced the same problem. After that i went back to shiped with spl and radio. Not even that fixed the problem.
I tried MTTY with task 29 and reflash stock. It stays the same! After initial setup my phone sometimes hangs before or after boot animation. sometimes it boots till sense is started and hangs there.
Does anyone have a smart idea how i can make my leo run propper again?
Thanks for help.
edit: im not sure if its Extendir. It could be something else, too. I tried flashing via usb and storage card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to specify that rom you used in this moment and to specify that RADIo is used

I used the Lost in Asia Regular Version V0.8 and Radio 2.08.50.05 and HSPL.
At the moment i have a lover Radio version.

Ultimaex said:
I used the Lost in Asia Regular Version V0.8 and Radio 2.08.50.05 and HSPL.
At the moment i have a lover Radio version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to assess that rom V.0.8 it has rom 2.0x base
radio 2,08 to enable 576 MB
the rom that it uses, it could not be compatible with the version radius
try to chnge a version radio or try to change version rom
if you use radio 2.08 from rom 2.07,try to flash rom cooked with 576 Mb enable
sorry for my poor english,i'm Italian

Sorry mate
the problem is other
I have since the rom of bob qualified V.08 is for 576 mb

You tried booting up with the SD card taken out of the device?
WB

You need to have a radio that supports the 576 mb. But I don't think this is your problem. It sound like to me your storage card is the problem. If you have another storage card format it to FAT 32 and try again. I bet your problem is solved. Also Don't use a 16gb card until you know for sure it is working. Even then there are problem with some people using them.

I dont have a Storage Card inserted now. Still the same problem
Btw. Using Laurentius V1.2 now. Same error here. i try to flash a lower Radio now.
As i said before i flashed stock 1.66 via storage card with radio and spl and still had the same Problem.

Ultimaex said:
I dont have a Storage Card inserted now. Still the same problem
Btw. Using Laurentius V1.2 now. Same error here. i try to flash a lower Radio now.
As i said before i flashed stock 1.66 via storage card with radio and spl and still had the same Problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you try flash rom with activeSync???

Are you able to flash HSPL again? Can you confirm on the Tri Color screen it says HSPL 1.42?

bobsbbq said:
Are you able to flash HSPL again? Can you confirm on the Tri Color screen it says HSPL 1.42?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Everything flashes as usual. HSPL, Radio and ROMs. The software just isnt running stable after flash.
If it would be a Radio/SPL/ROM problem the stock rom should fix it.

Not wanting to be the one to say it but maybe your device is defective or damaged. Or maybe the problem was caused ny the failure going to sleep, but I don't think so. I have accidentally unplugged mine before during flash and still got it back. If you reflash the ROM it should work again. If you don't have any luck I would flash back to the Stock ROM and take it in for repair.

To bad noone can help. I will do some research and if i have no success i will send it back.
Some weeks of waiting

bobsbbq said:
Also Don't use a 16gb card until you know for sure it is working. Even then there are problem with some people using them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any sources for that?
I never read anything backing this up.

pathologo said:
Any sources for that?
I never read anything backing this up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes there have been many. There have been some in my threads. There is also a thread posted here with lots of discussions and it was determined the the lock ups and freezes with Manila 19222911 was the 16gb cards. It seems there was only one ROM that did not have the problem and unfortunately this cook doesn't share with others.

im making improvements. after flashing stock i found out that i can change more and more settings and install programs without the need to hard reset. when i damage the filesystem with a program or setting i hardreset the device. after restart i can install that program without problems and can try another one.
seems that my device is repairing magically

Ultimaex said:
im making improvements. after flashing stock i found out that i can change more and more settings and install programs without the need to hard reset. when i damage the filesystem with a program or setting i hardreset the device. after restart i can install that program without problems and can try another one.
seems that my device is repairing magically
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the stock ROM is working then.

Ultimaex said:
im making improvements. after flashing stock i found out that i can change more and more settings and install programs without the need to hard reset. when i damage the filesystem with a program or setting i hardreset the device. after restart i can install that program without problems and can try another one.
seems that my device is repairing magically
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
try using the energy Rom...it works for me...all i can say, it's more stable than any other roms that i use before....

bobsbbq said:
So the stock ROM is working then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you didn't understand. after EACH program or setting i need to hardreset.
after hardreset i can install that program as usual as all programs i did that with before.
sseems that i 'gain' more and more storage back.

Ultimaex said:
I think you didn't understand. after EACH program or setting i need to hardreset.
after hardreset i can install that program as usual as all programs i did that with before.
sseems that i 'gain' more and more storage back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I don't understand. You have to have a working ROM to install a program? For a stock ROM you should not have to install anything. It either works or it doesn't.