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MDA Compact and 3G network UK

Hi all,
Congrats for the nice forum. I got my MDA compact sim free recently which I used with my Vodafone UK sim card and it worked fine. However I have signed a new contract on 3G UK in Phones4you where I was convinced by the dealer that the sim card can be used to another sim free phone apart from the 3G Nokia 6680 I have taken. It seems that this was not true because when I insert the sim card in the MDA it says "Ivalid Sim Card" and I can't use it now. Do you know any way I could manage my problem? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you very much.

I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.

kneeslasher said:
I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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Yes, they have good price plans, but I am really disappointed cause I can't use my MDA. Their sim cards seem to be locked and unfortunately I have no idea whether there is any way to make it suitable to non-3G phones.

The dealer lied.
3 will not allow non 3G phones because it involve cost to them. Three roam to O2's GSM (2G and 2.5G) when you are out of range of the 3 network and that costs them money. If you have a 2.5G phone like the Magician then it will be permanently roamed to O2 and they would make no money from you becasue they would be billed by O2 for your calls.

Don't forget you get a "cooling off" period on these contracts. Might be worth using it.

MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.

GAINER said:
MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe this is true

I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.

RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:

Thank you all for the replys, it seems that unfortunately in UK it would be impossible to use 3G card on the MDA. As the 6680 has nothing in common with the MDA I hope my bills to compensate the inconvenience :mrgreen:

3G
Using a non umts phone like the magician to connect to a umts network seems to me a very strange and bad idea.
Wait until next year (not so long) and buy the HTC Hermes or the XDA version : it's a S110 with the features of a QTEK 9100 and umts and wifi and ....

GAINER said:
RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
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Yeah, an Israeli Orange sim card works OK on my Magician.
of course I couldn't use any 3G services... :roll:

3 is a UMTS-only network. All 3G phones in the UK are dual-mode GSM/UMTS phones.
Because the 3 network does not cover enough of the UK it has an arrangement with O2 so that 3 phones will 'roam' to O2 when out of 3 coverage. When they do this they use O2's GSM network. So, a GSM phone with a 3 USim would be permanently roamed to O2 as I said earlier.
An Orange USim will work in an Orange GSM phone. Orange (in the UK) have a GSM Network and are rolling out a UMTS network. When an Orange phone is out of reach of the Orange UMTS network, it simply uses the Orange GSM network instead. Now if you put a usim into an Orange GSM phone, it simply accesses the Orange GSM network and can't see the UMTS one. Oh and it will be able to use the 2.5G GPRS system as well.
A bit wordy but I think it's clear.

also remember folks thats "3" use a 5volt sim card unlike every other uk network that still use the old 3volt cards.

3G connection and GPRS in Sydney

Hopefully someone could help me here...I'm on a prepay with vodafone australia now, but it seems that i can't connect to GPRS and 3G connection (eventhough the vodafone staff changed my SIM card to a 3G capable). Besides that, the staff told me that i need to be on a plan to be able to use GPRS, is that true ? Thanx for the help...I'm using Dopod 900 now

3G network for O2 Mini?

Hi,
I'm just wondering if the 3g network/simcard will work on the O2 Mini?
This network is in Australia, so for those in Australia knows please let me know.
Cheers

im not sure, i dont think itl work cause the 3G simcards use a different voltage or something, you can use normal sims in some 3G phones but not the other way round...

3g
I have Orange USIM (3G) sim card and its workinhg on Magician without any problem

Some 2G SIM cards can also be used to access 3G networks and 3G services(these type of sim cards is sometimes used, for example in 3 Hong Kong). Some 3G SIM cards (like the ones they have on 3 Australia) are just 3G sim cards, meaning they wont work on 2G phones.

3G needs a special technology which is not available in mini' hardware. Mini users have to just stop with what we already have as they wont even release a WM5 i think so.
However to use 3G effectively you need a cam in the display's front!
www.cartystudios.com

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nedam said:
I have Orange USIM (3G) sim card and its workinhg on Magician without any problem
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Are you able to download at 3G speed? Pointless having a 3G simcard if you can't go faster than GPRS.

If a phone doesn't support UMTS then you won't get a faster speed than GPRS (or EDGE) no matter what sim you put in it.

Softbank X01HT same as HTC TyTN???

I need to set up a Softbank X01HT for a customer who needs to be able to make video calls here on the Rogers network. I know this is capable with the HTC tyTn as i have done it in the past. My question is....on most sites i can find, it says the X01HT only suports UMTS. On these same sites, they say that the TyTn supports HSDPA (which i know Rogers uses in Canada). If i put all the correct settings into the Softbank, can it access the Rogers HSDPA network and make video calls (Rogers is currently running on HSDPA 1900)?? Because as im aware, UMTS runs on 2100mhz, and we dont have that frequency here in Canada. Or.....do i need to flash this Softbank with an HTC TyTn ROM in order to enable HSDPA??? OR...is there a .cab file that i need to install in order to enable 1900mhz/850mhz HSDPA???

Can't get UMTS .. only GPRS

Hi all
I use a T-mobile Vario II (HTC TyTN), unlocked and with the new dutch Windows Mobile 6.
With a sim of Tmobile i get instantly a UMTS-connection.
But: when i put in a different sim, i only can connect to GPRS.
The phone refuses to switch to 3G.
The sim is 3G-enabled (in my laptop-modem UMTS works fine), and the connection settings are OK.
Anyone know about this problem?
(I have to add: the phone is constantly in Roaming-mode, because the network-sim is from "Telfort" wich uses the dutch network "KPN"... does this have to do with not getting a UMTS connection??? Or is it a known problem in my WM6-version (Dutch) ???

I have to add:
Does it have to do with the HTC wanting to have a usim, for connecting to UMTS?
Because i believe my provider (Telfort - NL) does not have Usim (although they sell high-speed mobile data-subscriptions)

UMTS works
Hi,
I am a Telfort customer. UMTS is working at my TyTN, but...
It is NOT working on my wife's P3600. Strange thing.

I have the same issue,
On Telfort_NL only GPRS. Did you solve your problem?