Hi,
I'm just wondering if the 3g network/simcard will work on the O2 Mini?
This network is in Australia, so for those in Australia knows please let me know.
Cheers
im not sure, i dont think itl work cause the 3G simcards use a different voltage or something, you can use normal sims in some 3G phones but not the other way round...
3g
I have Orange USIM (3G) sim card and its workinhg on Magician without any problem
Some 2G SIM cards can also be used to access 3G networks and 3G services(these type of sim cards is sometimes used, for example in 3 Hong Kong). Some 3G SIM cards (like the ones they have on 3 Australia) are just 3G sim cards, meaning they wont work on 2G phones.
3G needs a special technology which is not available in mini' hardware. Mini users have to just stop with what we already have as they wont even release a WM5 i think so.
However to use 3G effectively you need a cam in the display's front!
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nedam said:
I have Orange USIM (3G) sim card and its workinhg on Magician without any problem
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Are you able to download at 3G speed? Pointless having a 3G simcard if you can't go faster than GPRS.
If a phone doesn't support UMTS then you won't get a faster speed than GPRS (or EDGE) no matter what sim you put in it.
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http://msmobiles.com/news.php/3965.html
Does anyone have any further information on whether a special 3G SIM card is necessary to use the HTC Universal? If this is true, it is terrible news for people who'd like to use it in the USA.
Does anyone have an email address for a decision maker for one of the US carriers (T-Mobile USA, preferably)? Maybe if we send some rational emails, they will decide to pick it up.
It will be necessary to get a new simcard to work on a 3G network... though the Universal will work with any sim card without the benefits of a 3G network (i.e. if you put a 2.5G sim in you will be able to use GPRS in it etc)
I have an Xda Exec on evaluation. I can confirm it works with SIM as well as USIM, without issue.
aadvark said:
I have an Xda Exec on evaluation. I can confirm it works with SIM as well as USIM, without issue.
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Pls tell us more...about USB Host fuctionalities etc... battery life...Wi Fi..Bluetooth.Can we listen songs over Bluetooth Headset...?
Any issues related to twisting and turning of screen...Pls
If your carrier offers a 3G network you can get a USIM for no money - or the cost of the SIM so you can access the UMTS network.
SIM - lets you access a GSM network (or an iDEN network)
USIM - lets you access a GSM and a UMTS network
RUIM - lets you access a CDMA network - in theory GSM networks too for roaming (mentioning this for brownie points lol )
Hi Folks
Does anyone have a soft copy of the handbook for the Universal they could post or mail me? Love to have a read.
Also, for the 3G calling, does it use a sim or usim?
cheer
Brett
mavrik64 said:
Hi Folks
Does anyone have a soft copy of the handbook for the Universal they could post or mail me? Love to have a read.
Also, for the 3G calling, does it use a sim or usim?
cheer
Brett
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3G traffic (be it data or video) always require a USIM. If you don't have any, you cannot get onto the 3G network. I'm actually having this issue, as I travel to the UK a lot, where T-mobile has a live 3G network. As I do not have a USIM (since T-Mobile NL doesn't offer 3G yet), I cannot roam onto their 3G network, only onto GPRS...
Bugger...
My operator (Telenor in Norway) enables the customers to use their OLD SIM cards and still have full 3G access!
My SIM card is from 2004, but customers may use cards that go back to July 2000 on the 3G network..
There has been some Over The Air updates, but these might be for something else..
The user only gets a SMS saying: "You SIM card has been updated, please reboot your phone."
So we can use the same SIM on a new and old phone, 3G or no 3G...
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Not 100% what you're after, but hope that helps.
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3G traffic (be it data or video) always require a USIM. If you don't have any, you cannot get onto the 3G network. I'm actually having this issue, as I travel to the UK a lot, where T-mobile has a live 3G network. As I do not have a USIM (since T-Mobile NL doesn't offer 3G yet), I cannot roam onto their 3G network, only onto GPRS...
Bugger...
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Well, I'm using a 4-year-old T-Mobile SIM in my JasJar, and I'm getting 3G access with absolutely no problems...
I didn't think there was such a thing as a USIM exactly? I got the impression that a "USIM" was just a normal 3v SIM card which has been enabled for use on the UMTS network. And that's done by pressing a button at T-Mobile 'Command Centre'...
'3' here in the UK make a big deal about USIM cards, and how you have to have one to use a 3G phone, but that only seems to apply to their handsets, because they put about 800 billion security locks on each of them. In my experience, Vodafone and T-Mobile don't require you to upgrade the actual SIM card at all, and I assume that Orange and O2 are the same.
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Well, I'm using a 4-year-old T-Mobile SIM in my JasJar, and I'm getting 3G access with absolutely no problems...
I didn't think there was such a thing as a USIM exactly? I got the impression that a "USIM" was just a normal 3v SIM card which has been enabled for use on the UMTS network. And that's done by pressing a button at T-Mobile 'Command Centre'...
'3' here in the UK make a big deal about USIM cards, and how you have to have one to use a 3G phone, but that only seems to apply to their handsets, because they put about 800 billion security locks on each of them. In my experience, Vodafone and T-Mobile don't require you to upgrade the actual SIM card at all, and I assume that Orange and O2 are the same.
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Hmmm, you learn something new every day... It could be that one can indeed update the SIM to a USIM with a OTA update, I just hadn't heard about that before. I might put in a phonecall to T-Mobile...
Thanks for the heads-up!
I'd better just point out that my last post was entirely guesswork on my part, based on the fact that my old T-Mobile SIM, and my sister's (3-year?)old Vodafone SIM both work perfectly in 3G devices.
In my case, I never even told T-Mobile that I'd bought a 3G phone, the SIM just worked on 3G from the second I put it in, so no OTA upgrade needed? (Of course, maybe they gave us UK customer's an upgrade one night without telling us?!)
My sister got an official Vodafone upgrade to a 3G phone, so they may have done an OTA thingy at the time, but the actual physical card is the same...
Hi all,
Congrats for the nice forum. I got my MDA compact sim free recently which I used with my Vodafone UK sim card and it worked fine. However I have signed a new contract on 3G UK in Phones4you where I was convinced by the dealer that the sim card can be used to another sim free phone apart from the 3G Nokia 6680 I have taken. It seems that this was not true because when I insert the sim card in the MDA it says "Ivalid Sim Card" and I can't use it now. Do you know any way I could manage my problem? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you very much.
I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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Yes, they have good price plans, but I am really disappointed cause I can't use my MDA. Their sim cards seem to be locked and unfortunately I have no idea whether there is any way to make it suitable to non-3G phones.
The dealer lied.
3 will not allow non 3G phones because it involve cost to them. Three roam to O2's GSM (2G and 2.5G) when you are out of range of the 3 network and that costs them money. If you have a 2.5G phone like the Magician then it will be permanently roamed to O2 and they would make no money from you becasue they would be billed by O2 for your calls.
Don't forget you get a "cooling off" period on these contracts. Might be worth using it.
MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe this is true
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
Thank you all for the replys, it seems that unfortunately in UK it would be impossible to use 3G card on the MDA. As the 6680 has nothing in common with the MDA I hope my bills to compensate the inconvenience :mrgreen:
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Using a non umts phone like the magician to connect to a umts network seems to me a very strange and bad idea.
Wait until next year (not so long) and buy the HTC Hermes or the XDA version : it's a S110 with the features of a QTEK 9100 and umts and wifi and ....
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RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
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Yeah, an Israeli Orange sim card works OK on my Magician.
of course I couldn't use any 3G services... :roll:
3 is a UMTS-only network. All 3G phones in the UK are dual-mode GSM/UMTS phones.
Because the 3 network does not cover enough of the UK it has an arrangement with O2 so that 3 phones will 'roam' to O2 when out of 3 coverage. When they do this they use O2's GSM network. So, a GSM phone with a 3 USim would be permanently roamed to O2 as I said earlier.
An Orange USim will work in an Orange GSM phone. Orange (in the UK) have a GSM Network and are rolling out a UMTS network. When an Orange phone is out of reach of the Orange UMTS network, it simply uses the Orange GSM network instead. Now if you put a usim into an Orange GSM phone, it simply accesses the Orange GSM network and can't see the UMTS one. Oh and it will be able to use the 2.5G GPRS system as well.
A bit wordy but I think it's clear.
also remember folks thats "3" use a 5volt sim card unlike every other uk network that still use the old 3volt cards.
So my new Exec turned up today, along with a new SIM card, marked 3G.
Do I need to use this card?
My current SIM works fine in it, but Im wondering if I need to put in the new one, call Cust Services and have it enabled, or can I get the 3G service on my existing SIM?
Depends , the 3G card will allow faster internet connection- if in service area
if in stand gprs area , you get a G at top of screen
if in 3G area you get a U
Does that mean I have to use and register the 3G SIM? As far as I was aware, the SIM doesnt actually provide any functionality - its the service class your contract has?
@CPGOD
3G and GSM SIMs are different. Only with a 3G SIM can you use UMTS (3G services). Please check with O2, they may be transferring your number to the new SIM from the old - which would be a good thing if you want fast data download (max speed around 384kbps)
not true, my voda sim of over two years is now 3G enabled...
@twaddle, you're right it is possible to have a SIM that is GSM and UMTS. Did a bit of research and found SIM cards can function in GSM and UMTS modes. This has not been true for "3" network, however.
I'm not really sure the old SIM can be used to received 3G, I've just upgraded and got my old number transfer to the 3G sim, it works after a few hours. If the old one worked then why would they bother giving out the new sim?
I just unlocked my SPV-M5000 and replaced the orange 3G sim with a regular Vodafone SIM. Much to my surprise the phone after a few minutes of being on the regular 2G network picked up the UTMS network from Vodafone (the provider name changed and the gprs symbol changed from G to U).
The coverage was only 2 bars and I could not make calls on it anyway, so I changed my network settings from auto to GSM and now only the 2G network is found. I was wondering how this could have happen when using a regular non 3G sim in the first place.
I think the best thing is to get a 3G sim anyway from Vodafone. Is this something that vodafone would normally do. I would keep the same number etc of course, I just want a 3G sim instead of a 2G one.
Thnaks
I am running an O2 XDA Exec and a Sony Eric 750i.
Have asked O2 to send me a 3G compatable card for the Exec which presumably will be the same number, not sure if this will automatically invalidate the original Sim or if this can continue to be run in my SE?
Any ideas?
Vodafone does not provide any seperate 3G sims. they just provide SIM cards and depending on the phone they are in they pick up the signal.
The o2 3G sims work in all phones......3G or not so I don't think they are any different. They could be.
But as far as Vodafone is concerned, they donot provide seperate SIMs for 3G/2.5G.
There is no such thing as a 3G SIM.
The clever stuff is done by your phone.
Voda and O2 do it differently.
With Voda, any sim will do.
With O2 you need a 3G sim, which are different to a standard 2G sim. I believe this has something to do with enhanced security. Either type of sim will work in a 2G or 3G phone, but of course you can only get a 3G signal with a 3G sim and 3G phone.