Hey all, thanks to all your hard work I was rather easily able to upgrade to WM2003 4.00.11 and RS 6.24 (Tmobile). Many, many thanks to everyone who worked on the Kitchens.
So I'm running RS 6.24 and it's got the "always on GPRS" feature. Seems to be working great on my XDA...but how do I end a connection?
I connected to GPRS last night as I setup email on the device, and it still hasn't disconnected since. I've placed calls, sent SMS, turned the device off, but I'm still connected. I've done everything except soft reset, which I'm sure will disconnect but that's not really the answer I'm looking for.
This morning I found it still connected to GPRS, but I cannot receive email or browse the web. If I could quickly disconnect and reconnect to GPRS I think I would be OK.
WM2003 has the neat "tap on phone indicator", "tap connect" quick connect feature, but a similar "tap disconnect" option would be much appreiciated.
PS - I saw the XDA2 at the Windows Mobile event in NYC on Wednesday. One word...DROOL.
RE: WM2003 GPRS Connect/Disconnect
Holding the red hardware "end" button down for 4-5 seconds will disconnect your GPRS session. Alternatively, there are some great tools like SPB Software's GPRS Monitor that provide an easy connect/monitor bandwidth/disconnect functionality.
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Here's a weird one: (Not me - the problem )
A few days ago my XDA2 (original ROM) started displaying the 'connected version' of the signal strength icon (i.e. the signal strength icon with the double arrows above it) all the time, whether I'm connected with ActiveSync or GPRS or not. It doesn't matter whether I connect/disconnect from the cradle or connect/disconnect GPRS I never get the basic GSM icon with the signal strength meter and the antenna symbol.
Functionality hasn't changed - it's just irritating. Everything still works perfectly.
I don't have a lot of external software on my machine and the only thing that changed recently is that I tried the freeware T9 dialler that elir is offering in these forums (ExtPhone). I doubt that could cause this strange behaviour.
Any ideas anyone?
TIA
You need to be careful with this SiliconS since I had a similar experience last weekend and I know that I will get charged for some GPRS use on my next bill.
This is what I think happened:
:arrow: I have OmegaOne Journal Bar installed and last weekend I altered some settings.
:arrow: Journal Bar updates on ActiveSync, which up until then was no problem because the previous settings only downloaded content when in the cradle and attached by USB to my PC.
:arrow: SPB GPRS Monitor informed me that there was GPRS traffic during the night on Saturday and Sunday.
:arrow: I think that in the absence of an active connection through the USB (PC switched off!) ActiveSynch used GPRS to update Journal Bar.
If you've got Journal Bar installed be careful :!:
You mention other software in your post, take a close look at it and see if it's likely that it will be using a GPRS connection to download. Alternatively post details of your installed software and I will try to comment. I'm sure that there are people out there who will also help.
Thanks for your suggestion, micken. I don't use JournalBar but I do have WeatherPanel which could be updating itself through GPRS. However, when I tap the Connectivity icon I'm not connected to GPRS - I have the links to connect GPRS (O2 GPRS and WAP network GPRS). Also if I hold down the red button to disconnect GPRS, nothing happens to the Connectivity icon - it doesn't change back to the 'not connected' version.
So I think I'm not connected to GPRS - only the icon is stuck that way.
:?:
Hi, looks like that's a software bug that's crept in then.
Hope you manage to fix it or find a workaround.
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
1. Does it consume extra battery life if the GPRS is alawys on?
2. When I'm connected but not actively doing anything (upload/download), does the device keep communicating with the service provider? i.e. sending control information back and forth even when i am actively not using it?
3. If the GPRS connection is active, are there any chances my phone reception or the phone's ability to get a phone call/SMS/MMS is adversely affected? I dont want people not to be able to contact me or send sms/mms because my phone is always connected on GPRS.
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
1 yes like your phone use more power when you speak in your phone it use lot more power then not using it
2 a bit not too much
3 it should not
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
Mind you, I use an MDA I.
as far as I know, the only way to get off and stay off GPRS is to go to settings->system->memmory->running programs and close anything that might use it (mailbox, IE, etc...)
If the signal indicator says it's connected to GPRS, then yes, you are actively connected to the tower/cell network. Sending info constantly, I don't know?????
GPRS effecting other network connectiveity???? I've heard yay and nay and have no professional opinion. Personally, I have no problems recieving a call, sms, etc... while connected to GPRS.
As far as power consumption, I would assume yes, it sucks up power. I have noticed about a 15% increase in power consumption using the web for an hour or so per day as well as automaticly checking email once every 45 minutes.
I also recently discovered a beautiful little prog that I cooked into my MDA I OS. PocketNav. It allows you to switch programs, close certain ones with only two "clicks", or all the progs at once, etc.... Check it out!!! It will be worth your time (I don't know where to get it other than stephan's kitchen).
Good luck!
gsm and sms should disable grps while it's using the band
but not cause problems
there is also the program PHM task manager
which is pretty much a copy of the task manager in windows 2k and xp so if people know and like that then it's a good program
Dustoff said:
humayunl said:
Some questions about the "ALWAYS ON" GPRS connection in WM2003 (device = imate aka XDA II)
4. Once the GPRS connection is made, and i'm done doing my "thing", how do I disconnect? Cause currently I have no way of disconnecting.
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Press and hold the Red Disconnect button for several seconds (Approx. 3 Sec) and it will disconnect.
Dustoff
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He Dustoff,
Great stuff! Worked fine for me. Thanks.
Ronald
Dustoff,
Where is the Red dsiconnect button I am supposed to press and hold?
I am using WM2003 and after Iam connected, i havent been able to find any place where there is any disconnect option. in the connection bubble all i can see is that i am "connected" but there is nowhere for me to disconnect.
Can you please let me know where you find this disconnect option.
thanks
Red disconnect button
It is simply the red button of the telephone.
On another hand, if someone calls you exactly in the same moment when yours GPRS is fully active downloading something (a big picture, a long message, ...), you may appear as "unavailable"
Rudegar said:
4 www.GB-SOFT.cz/xdaII should add some features
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Hi.
I have not tried the above software yet, but here is the problem I have...
I use Wi-Fi a lot at home and quite often keep the Wi-Fi on and use WiFiFoFum away from home. I have managed to set up my pay as you go GPRS connection. But whenever I'm away from a Wi-Fi network the GPRS connects and my applications then access the internet.
There needs to be an option of "not connecting gprs automatically when there is no Wi-Fi connection."
What I have had to do is change one of the setting for the gprs so it cant connect, and I have to change it back when I need it.
Switching from Wi-Fi to gprs can cost a lot if things connect without me knowing. It costs £3 for a months use of 1Mb.
Regards,
Ian Watson
creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.
I think holding down the HANGUP/STOP button for 2-3 seconds is the fastest and easiest way.
interestingfellow said:
creating a phantom connection, and "picking" it as default may be slightly quicker than changing the settings of you primary connection.
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I have found where I can stop it from connecting the GPRS if it cant get a wi-fi conncetion. Connections icon on the connections tab, then the advanced tab, then the select networks button - "programs that automaticall connect to the internet..........". I have changed this from gprs to my isp.
Ian
This is becoming a problem and im dreading my phone bill when it comes through. If someone sends me an MMS the phone auto connects to GPRS and downloads the image. Not a problem there, the problem is that after downloading the image the connection doesnt disconnect. Now unless i remember to disconnect it, it stays connected running up my bill. The same goes for when i send an image it connects but wont disconnect after it sents. I would have thought this would have been a standard option as it is with normal phones. I cant always remember to manually disconnect the GPRS everytime. Anyone got any info on this please?
Either hold down the "End call" button for a few seconds to disconnect or tap the icon and choose disconnect. Shouldn't worry though as the beauty of GPRS is you only pay for data transfer, not to be connected.
You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.
You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.
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Good to know - thanks for the info :wink:
hey, thanks for that info, i managed to talk to O2 and they confirmed that you dont get charged for having GPRS on unless you use it. Thanks again.
You can also try this great freeware utility that lets you set automatic disconnect timeouts for GPRS:
GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
Anyone know how I can force my mini s to disconnect from GPRS after it has checked my email?
Si.
press and hold the red phone button (hang up) for about 5 seconds - you should see it switch from GPRS (small [G] icon) to 'GPRS Available' (large [G] icon)
I'd rather it did it automatically - so I can leave it alone all day and it will connect to check now and again then disconnect.
same problem here. is there a fix?
also when i have forgot to disconnect am i paying for gprs? or is it just any content i download?
cheers.
GPRS is paid for by data usage, not connection... so you can leave it connected (so long as nothing is downloading in the background!)
V
cheers vijay, but have you got a workaround for original question?
on my old c500 when i had finished getting mail it automatically switched itself off.are we missing something?
vijay... unfortunately, at least on my Qtek 9100, there's always some data sent.. very infrequently, but over a day of no activity, the GPRS Monitor application that came with it reported 200KB traffic. So I always make sure to disconnect regardless
ZeBoxx: it doesn't surprise me. At least in theory, you only pay for data transfer on GPRS, not time connected like on dialup. However, I think activesync is an unpredictable beast at bet. I never use GPRS - so for me, to ensure I'm completely disconnected I use a dummy grps account.
futuresbright: I'm working on a set of such tools, but I believe there's already a command line tool to disconnect GPRS. I haven't made one yet that will automatically disconnect after checking email. I have to work on a related app, so I will try to look into the question, but I can't promise any time frame I'm afraid
V
Yeah, the monitor comes with a little icon on the Today Screen with which you can explicitly enable/disable GPRS as well. So obviously it can be done by external software
GPRS disconnect on O2 XDA mini S
If I tap the GPRS icon on the top bar when I have a GPRS connection up, I get an option to disconnect it (and it works!). I too don't like the thought of racking up data calls even though it is supposed to be packets switched not circuit switched.
no worries vijay,thanks for your time.
will just have to remember to switch off manually for now.
Hi guys,
I'm all new to your forum...
I have the o2 xdII, xdaIIs and now i'm using the xda Exec.
I have a strange problem that even o2 technical support team can't fix...
When i start internet explorer it will connect to either gprs or 3g (whatever is available). when i finish browsing the internet, i just close internet explorer and then close the connection by clicking the disconnect button. Where my problem is, is when i want to reconnect to the internet again (say 5 mins after i close the last connection), i cant get any connection whatsoever. I have a good receiption (gprs and 3g). And i have this weird message :
Dialed: mobile.o2.co.uk
The answering modem has disconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings.
So after a lot of talking with o2, i still have this problem.
I have tried to uprgrade to the new rom, and nothing, i have change the settings of the cennection, still nothing. i even changed the handset as i and o2 thought it could have been a faulty handset, but still nothing...
The only solution at the present is to do a soft reset everytime i want to connect to the internet... Its very annoying !!!!
Would annyone have a solution ??? Please ?????
Thank you in advance for your help....
Personally; I wouldn't suggest closing the connection and you won't get charged any extra.
this is easy to fix, but you will lose some software you've got installed.
I had this problem and have worked it out to be conflicts between software that handles the phone line. I had mortring, phonealarm and photo contacts pro installed and my gprs would not reconnect after the 2nd attempt. Putting the phone into flight mode and then back into normal mode would allow gprs to reconnect but only once.
So I uninstalled the above 3 applications one by one and found the gprs would reconnect great with only one installed (any one it didn't matter)
So try removing software that handles the phone line until your gprs reconnect works.
Daz