Hi guys...
have u seen this?
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
And now the question
Can u please have a look for me at the compatibility page... does that means anything for the XDAII?
Of course I mean as far as working as phone is concerned... of course the stereo audio would play.
Do any of u have or have tried the headphones? Do they work with the XDA in phone mode? Could they work?
If you don't know I would play guinea pig and order now!
Thanks,
Chris
from what the page says then it looks like will not be connecting to the xda2 using bluetooth but you just plugin the at minijack and the xda see it as a normal headset
and then the little box sendt the info to the headset
but of cause this would require you to use a minijack 3.5m to 2.5m converter
and you would not be able to use it for phone calls
Thank you... but why?
Dear Rudegar,
can I ask you why?
I do understand I would need the minijac converter and I would not be able to use the wired bottom for phone calls, but I tough I could still use the headset connected via BT for the phone call just as I did with my SE HBH-35 (before I lost it...).
Why you think I would not be able to use via BT? If I use BT tools?
Thanks!
Chris
it all comes down to how they made the device really
as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack
maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box
but the headset dont seem to have a mic
and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand
as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box
not sure about this but i do recall reading somewhere that the headset in the article does NOT work with the xda2. not sure if it's through this forum or another article. now if another chap could find that article somewhere...
a mate of mine living in hong kong tried using this headset with his xda and the bluetooth didn't work...unless of course he was doing something wrong so don't peg it on me
given that the bluetooth headset does not work with the xda2's bluetooth; the reason the converter may be needed is because the dongle might have a built-in 3.5mm jack. the xdas use 2.5mm jacks; thus needing the 3.5-2.5 mm converter. once you have the converter then basically you have the dongle piggy-backing on the xda...reminds me of the time i used a jabra bt with my xda1; the headset had an adaptor for non-bluetooth phones...downside was that you had the jabra dongle piggy-backing. the same could apply for the bluetake headset. you would need the dongle to be connected to the xda in order for the bluetooth to function.
i also recall reading that the bluetooth of the xda2 does not support wmp...
cheers
-r
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Thank you, let me expain better!
Thanks to u all for all the replies to my question.
Let me be a little more spefic. There are 2 parts to how this headset works:
1) As a stereo headset connected via BT to the company's little box that connect to any 3.5 stereo jack (no matter what they are for... stereo, ipod, or XDAII bottom plug with an adapter).
For this use I have no dubt it would work since the 3.5 jack is same for everybody
2) As a headset (it supports both Headset and Hands-Free profiles) to pair with the XDA II as I would do with my SE HBH-35 for use as a phone only.
Would this bit work?
Thank you!
Chris
Rudegar:
"as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack"
Correct for function 1
"maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box"
My understanding is that u do this and through this connection u can use the headset only as a phone oyu need to ALSO connect to the box to also get stereo sound
"but the headset dont seem to have a mic"
It does
"and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand"
It doesn't matter. I hope I would get audio streaming from the bottom 2.5 to 3.5 jack to little-box to BT to headset
AND
the phone function connecting the headset in (Headset or Hands-Free profile) to the XDAII. The only think I care about the stack is that it pairs with the headset in phoneheadset mode.
"as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box"
Correct, but I still need the headset to be BT compatible with the XDAII to use function 2
Robson: thank you, I wrote the maker asking if there are any known issue with the XDAII
but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone ?
have anybody tried to connect a 2.5m headset the one that comes with the device and then bound a headset and see if the 2.5m headset interfear with the bluetooth when it rings ?
"but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone?"
I understand that by device you mean the headphones. I am not sure if it drops the connection or not, but u here the ring and when u answer it stops the music
I have attached the manual I found on the website
would be pretty cool to see a test of it with xda2 and maybe an ipaq so one could see if it would be even cooler if you were using the non ms bluetooth stack
I bought it!
I bought it!
I will let u all know if it works once arrives... I will have one week to test it or send it back.
I don't know if it would work much better with an Ipaq... as far as I know you can't get stereo audio out through BT from an Ipaq either...
i believe that the ipaq's bluetooth stack should support it but i'm not 100%
some guy in this forum did manage to get audio from his pc to his bluetooth headset but the quality was pretty poor
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
the imate and xda2 and such are listed on the compatible list of this headset
but just how compatible we'll see when you or somebody else get hold of one and try it out
F**k what I said, it don't means s**t now...
Hi guys... got it yesterday... returning it today...
Qucik summary:
1) It worked fairly well as stereo headphone with the included box
2) It paired with the XDAII, but the audio was very ppr with a lot of eco and the botton to answer or close the call did not work with the original BT (1.52) nor with BT Tools.
Sorry guys....
wonder if it would have worked better with the WidCom stack
Did you try contacting their tech support at all? Usually companies with a new product like that are willing to work with users.
Yes I did
Yes, I did contact them:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian
Subject: Compatibility with XDAII
To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can I use the i-PHONO BT420 EX Hi-Fi Sports Headphone Kit with an XDAII/iMate/QTek2020/OrangeM1000? (They are different names for the same pda/phone produced by HTC).
Are there any known issues?
Let me expain better myself:
1) I know and I am aware I cannot get stereo audio out of the PDA through BT from any application unless I connect the stereo jack to an adapter that get me to a 3.5 jack to connect to the BT transmitter box
2) What I would like to know is if I could pair and use the headphones with the BT of the the XDAII just for the phone part (as I would do with any other BT headset), so getting the mic and speaker to work
Thanks,
Chris
I go no answer... in the mean time I managed to buy, receive and send it back.
Hi cchris
Here you have one working Bluetooth stereo headset.
I have bought it for 1 1/2 month ago and works great with the Xda II
Here is the link.
http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/eng/product/product_bap.php
It work as a bluetooth headset with a 128M mp3 player.
If you listen to music and if you receve a call the the mp3 goes down and you can answer the call.
You receve a USB Dongel witch you can connect to the PC and listen to stereo music t ex.
Regards
Josef
Sounds Great but...
Thank you JoseF!
It sounds great!
I believe u mean the BT Headset on the link given (the BT Stereo Headset is reported as not yet available)
If I understand u correctly, by saying it works great with the XDAII you mean that it pairs. Can I ask a few questions:
-does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
I just bought a 1GB SD card, I don't want to carry a separate device for MP3, I would like to do everything from the XDA, also get the audio from the movies I play with the thing!
Thank you!
Chris
P.S.: By the way where did u bought it/where do u think I can get the best price for it?
Hi Chris,
does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
Yes it has a botton to push to answer.
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
No,not at the moment, It will be possibel in the future.If sameone can make the widcomm stack to work (h6315).
I dont know if the device is available at the moment.I have a friend that bought one in Januari,It was just 64M storage.
I bought mine in Juli , They have change the storage to 128M.
If you are intrested contact khcoi . Take a look at FAQ at http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/bbs/rboard.php?id=e_qa
Regards
JoseF
This may sound weird, but does anyone know how to use the imate/xdaII as a bluetooth headset?
I am using pc to phone software and want to be able to wander round the room/house with my imate talking via bluetooth to the PC and to the pc-to-phone software on the PC.
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-65 bluetooth headset but the battery life is TERRIBLE on it - talking for 30 mins on that will probably render the battery dead!
Looking forward to your comments!
this is not the answer to your querry but something related. when i bond my xda to my pc via bluetooth; to complete the pairing the xda asks you if you want to use the pc as a headset. out of kicks i pressed "ok" and when my phone rang the speaker of my laptop was the one which sounded. the bond between my xda and my o2 headset was gone. had to rebond the laptop and headset again...bottomline is that you can use the laptop as your "headset"...so from there maybe you can work something on the other way around?
cheers
Interesting!! The PC can be recognised by the phone as being a headset. Thanks for the response anyway - perhaps someone can make use of this.
In the bluetooth toolset that I have installed on my PC I can search for all devices that can be used as a headset - the HBH-65 appears in the search, but my XDAII doesn't.
Wondering whether someone has managed to tweak this to work.
regarding: The PC can be recognised by the phone as being a headset.
i haven't tried plugging in a mike on my laptop; which means that if it does work you can actually use your pc as a loudspeaker for conference calls.
regarding: In the bluetooth toolset that I have installed on my PC I can search for all devices that can be used as a headset - the HBH-65 appears in the search, but my XDAII doesn't. - now that's a little strange. i use a bluetooth dongle and when i search for devices my xda comes up and not the headset...
i don't think you can use your regular bt headsets for laptop / pc use; read it in one of the topics here somewhere.
cheers
Hi,
Does anyone else attempt this with their MDA Vario?
Blue tooth enabled and communicating incar with Parrot CK3100 - works fine, bt always enabled, and pairs with parrot on entering the car and switching on ignition.
Load up tomtom5 - bluetooth connects fine to GPS aswell as parrot & can use gprs to retrieve traffic updates.
Enable Wifi to attach to an 80gb incar wifi hardisk, and use tcpmp to play music from it through car stereo via stereo jack.
Problem seems to be the bluetooth keeps dropping out regulary while the wifi is active - ie the tomtom will lose gps connection, and regain it a few minutes later, or the parrot will display disconnected then reconnect a minute later. Disable wifi and it seems to behave itself (but obviously no music)
I have an Ipaq 5550 which had been using the wifi/blutooth for all the above simultaneously (and still can), which I want to replace with the wizard.
incar 80GB HD!?!
Hey Paul,
I don't know the answer to your problem (yet).
But what harddisk do you use in your car to connect over your Wizard? I have a Parrot 3100 also and love the idea of playing my music wireless in my car.
Hope you can advise me.
Asus WL-HDD2.5 + 80gb disk, powered via a 5v2a camcorder carcharger (the normal 1amp accessory socket chargers don't have the power to start up the disk).
does anyone know if streaming to more then 1 BT headset at the same time is possible ? IF so, how will they be paired to the Phone and do they have to be the same brand Model ?
Thanks in advance for your inputs
Sorry, only one bluetooth device can be active at a time. There's another consequence to this: you can't be listening to your bluetooth headset and expect your bluetooth GPS to connect either.
so no such thing as having you and your wife listening to the same music while jogging in the park... very sad
Yet thanks for your input
Sleuth255 said:
Sorry, only one bluetooth device can be active at a time. There's another consequence to this: you can't be listening to your bluetooth headset and expect your bluetooth GPS to connect either.
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Not so; I'm doing both at this very moment, listening to MP3s over A2DP and getting GPS data. The Wizard seems to be keeping up pretty well in spite of its slow processor; I've only had a couple of short dropouts on the audio.
hmmm... couldn't get mine to work. Your GPS is bluetooth? I also can't get my car handsfree to work when I'm listening to mp3s using my HP A2DP headphones.
If this is the case then the Microsoft Bluetooth stack sucks. Bluetooth is ABLE to connect up to 7 devices. In other words, when in A2DP mode, you SHOULD be able to share the sound with up to 7 clients. And if you only have one client to send sound to, then you SHOULD be able to connect to 6 different Bluetooth devices that do different things (e.g. GPS, keyboard, printer etc)
If the MS stack can't do that 7-to-7 kind of sharing, then it's a crap stack.
Eugenia said:
If the MS stack can't do that 7-to-7 kind of sharing, then it's a crap stack.
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Good point... But how would i know if it can or can't do such thing. how do you pair 2 headphones to one phone... how would that work. You pair one you loose the other ? not sure...
hi,
i thought about these bt-adapters that are used to connect a notebook or pda to connect to a stereo.
isn't it possible to use the magician as a bt-audio adapter with that you can play your desktop sound on the stereo (eventually via a 2,5 to 2,5 klink adapter) via bt?
i looked already a little bit around but didn't find a possibility to connect the notebook to the pda and stream the sound to the pda.
any ideas?
greetings,
lindsche
I asked this question like a year ago and also didn't receive any answers.
Should be possible though with the a2dp supporting bt stack,
nevertheless I couldn't get it to work.
I dont know about BT, but it works with a phono cable, ive caned an 800watt sound system with my magician
jupp i used it already like this with mortplayer, but the question is if there is a way to use the pda as a bt-soundcard like a headset.
You could connect it using Bluesoleil -> PAN and
then just open a playlist on the "server".
afaik you can't use it as bluetooth headset because it just doesn't
have the proper bt profile.