Hi, I have aquired a T-mobile from the U.S.
Before attempting to re-flash it to get it to work in Australia I just want some advice that I am about to do the right thing...
Here are its specs:-
Branded T-Mobile
ROM v 3.08.10ENG
Radio v 6.02
Model PW10B1
After some reading of these forums I have concluded it must be a 900/1900 GSM device, and it appears to be SIM locked.
(Here in Aus. we have a 900/1800 GSM system).
I intend to use a cooked rom from jeffs site to upgrade the rom.
Does the rom I use have to be one of the T-Mobile US roms ?
I realise that i wont have 1800 coverage. But will 900 still work?
Anyway, because of the sim lock I intend to proceed with a rom update.
I intend to:
Backup rom using SD card method
Download a V4.xxx T-mobile US cooked rom
Update rom using USB method
Any comments/advice appreciated (any local experience here?)
Regards from DownUnder.
well first off... i suggest you upgrade to Special rom 1.2 first.
that one will unlock your pda, so you can use it anywhere.
and about band... i'm sure i saw 1800 in the bootloader!
but not sure if you select it as default if it will carry over to the os
maybe worth a try.
in any case, if you back up your os onto SD, you have nothing to fear.
i say best thing to do, is copy that O2 os & radio (if you're sure u'll never leave australia, i dont think radios can be manipulated that often)
but dont take my word for it. wait for a confirmed user. if your not advanturous
Good Luck!
Yep, I backed up and upgraded to SE v1.2 rom using the SD card/OSImagetool method.
SIM unlocked ok
Phone works if 900mhz band is selected.
Its now thinks it's a model PW10A1.
Radio is still the 6.02 version. (B ver. )
Not sure what the consequences of this are.
Im not sure if i would benefit from a radio upgrade or not.
If I understand this correctly, I can ONLY upgrade the radio to the T-Mobile US versions, because the radio hardware is B version.
I think I will leave it like this for a while, see how it go's.
Anybody have any experience with using a B (US)version radio in a A Ver.(euro/asian) area.??
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Thanks for the advice ntabikha and THANK YOU to the XDA Developers team.
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Hi,
Siemens SX56 Unlock
I would like to know if someone unlocked its phone by himself.
All we read is people from everywhere except with AT&T.
My ROM version: 3.14.03 ENG date: 09/27/02
Radio version 6.12 protocol 324e4
Frequency 900/1900 American model PW10B
Does the Rom Update 3.17 from xda-developers works with Rogers AT&T?
Can we expect our phone to live after that update?
Is the new ROM functionnalities user friendly? Would you rather keep the old ROM version both UNLOCKED?
If you got your SX56 unlocked, can you tell me what you did?
I'd like to have your comments on what you did before I do it.
After spending that kind of money, I wouldn't like to kill my phone.
So let me know how you did it and what did you need to update it.
I expect to get details from you.
Thanking you in advance!!!
The ROM has nothing to do with receiving the signal. It's the RSU part (Radio part of the device). ROM 3.17 should be fine with unlocking, but you may try this tool firls to keep your current ROM www.xda-developers.com\XDAunlock\
To determine the best RSU to use with your new network then you have to get some info about your device and the frequency of the network (900/1800 or 900/1900).
But ... get your XDA unlocked first then we'll see if it receives signal or not.
Good luck
I unlocked my Siemens SX56 from AT&T with the XDA Manipulator tool on this site. To use it, you need a serial cable for your SX56. I just made one. In reality, it would have been much easier to simply upgrade with the special edition ROM on this wedsite and use the unlock tool. The ROM upgrade should not effect the phone at all since it is the windows operating system and not the radio software (radio stack) which is a seperate upgradeable piece of software.
To be safe, just download your current ROM onto an SD card and then use a seperate SD card to upload the upgrade ROM. If you don't like the upgrade ROM, you can always restore the original ROM and the good news is that once your phone is unlocked, it's unlocked no matter what ROM you use.
Good luck, and upgrading ROM's using the SD method is really the safest way IMHO. You can find plenty of information describing the process on this site.
Panabax
My O2 XDA PW10A1 (as labeled on the back of the device) is identified as PW10B1 in Device Information after updated to wm2003 a30.09 and RSU4.21. How can I get it identified correctly?
PS. Someone told me that there are two different RSU4.21 radios,one is for EU,the other is for Asia.Is there any differences between these two radios?Where can I download a RSU 4.21 radio for Asia?
It doesnt change anything, your phone is still 900/1800 band. If your phone works ok with the existing radio stack I would suggest leaving it alone as upgrading radio stacks can be very risky.
Updating the OS ROM to the correct version will change the iD. Changing the Radio stack is risky and could leave your phone as a paper weight.
When updating I highly suggest the SD method.
Thanks a lot
Thanks guys, for your great suggestions.
same here...
i upgraded OS when i was in phone settings it changes my band to 1900 , now i cant back it to normal state when i may use phone...
any solution how to change this band again to normal not 900/1900 ?
HEEELP:/ i need phone operating in next 30 mins :/
solved..
I changed band using bootloader
LONG LIVE XDA DEVELOPERS!
Hi. I started with an AT&T Siemens SX-56 with XDA Developers final 2002 software.
After burning my own 2003 ROM with Lumpi's kitchen, I installed from USB cradle. No probs.
Then I tweaked a new ROM, but it wouldn't work with USB. I had to upgrade it by SD method. Worked fine.
Don't ask me why (maybe I like having all newest versions), but I upgraded the radio using T-Mobile's 2003 updater.
I've since burned a new ROM I made in the kitchen.
My question is: I now have Wallaby Bootloader 5.22, T-Mobile kitchen ROM 4.10.16ENG 02/04/04, and Radio Stack 6.25.02. GSM Band doesn't work anymore. Is there one that will work?
I can sucessfully use Wallaby menu and change back and forth from 1900 to 900/1800, no problem, but,
1) is that the only way I can do it when I travel back and forth to Europe?
2) can I downgrade the Radio stack?
3) what versions (in your opinions) of ROM and Radio are the best/most stable/whatever...? (Internet isn't so important to me, but good cellphone signal is)
Thanks a million!
I love this site! Awesome!!!!!!
-Alex
p.s. If anyone has questions about SX56 and how to get stuff to work and what happens when you try things, just ask! I've got a spare one I do all my testing on...[/b]
I used 6.24.01 and 6.25.02 RSUs with 900 MHz ... in general there is almost no difference ... both are performing in an acceptable manner. However, I have a personal feeling that 6.24.01 was a bit more stable (I maybe wrong tho).
In all cases, as long as you have a good RSU don't touch it ... it's a risky process unless there is a real need. I didn't try the GSM band switcher my self, but I heard it requires soft reset after.
Hello,
How are you?
After finally managing to unlock my xda, it does not find any networks!
My ROM Version is 4.01.12 ENG
ROM date 12/22/03
Radio Version 6.24.00
Protocol version 324e4
Does anyone know of this problem?
Please help me.. I was so happy to unlock it and now i have run into this problem....
I have read that you shouldn't play with the gsm menu in the bootloader screen.. well i did play with them before i knew i shouldn't. Could this be the problem?
Is there a way to reset it?
Should I go to a different radio version?
Please help,
I live in France and I am on the french bouygtel network. I believe this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
Thank you,
monza
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monza said:
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Radio Version 6.24.00
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Should I go to a different radio version?
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this is a 900/1800 gsm network.
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6.24.00 radio is for PWA10B1 and for 900/1900 networks only (for USA).
If you have a PWA10A1 model (check the back of your PDA), you should use 4.21.00 for 900/1800. Note: upgrading Radio Stack is very risky, do it for your own responsibility! So after you downgraded to 4.21, enter bootloader, press calendar button then select "900/1800" and soft reset.
You can get 4.21 radio stack from here:
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21_PPC.zip for the ppc install version and
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_V4.21.zip for the activesync version. I remind you, upgrading radio stack is risky!!
Search in the forums how to upgrade radio stack.
Oh, and entering bootloader makes a hard reset.
KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
Thank you very very very much.....
You are a god ;-)
It worked.
Compatibility of SEROM with Radio A.20.10
I had been asking a similar question elsewhere in the forum.
Given these device specs,
ROM Version : A.21.02 ENG
ROM date: 10/17/03
Radio Version : A.20.10
Protocol version : 324e4
Carrier : AT&T GSM/GPRS in the USA,
would you know if the version of the Special Edition ROM v1.2 available on this site (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/SpecialEditionROM) should be compatible with this radio stack or not? I would not want to do a RS up/downgrade if I can avoid it.
Re: KTamas... Thank you very very very much...
monza said:
Thank you very very very much...It worked.
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You're welcome
Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish
Re: Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
HamishM said:
I've just acquired a T-Mobile (unlocked) and want to use it in New Zealand, which has a European setting, 900/1800. The T-Mobile is a PW10B1, which I think is setup to operate on a different frequency.
Can I swap the radio stack to operate on my local GSM network, or will I fry the PDA.
If I do swap the radio stack, and it fails - is there a ROM which I can use to rebuild the PDA with instructions on how to do this (URLS and links would be VERY much appreciated!)
Thanks, Hamish
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PWA10B1 is for 900/1900 ONLY. You cant swap radio strack - if your provider works on 900 mhz, then you have to use it on that freq.
T-Mobile in NZ (from Canada)
Thanks for the reply.
Since then, I've installed a v4 radio stack (as described earlier in this thread) and the system does boot, but won't see my PC for Active Sync and also won't see the network.
I'm downloading the official T-Mobile ROM which I hope I can use, but if activesync won't work, any suggestions as to how to get the ROM loaded?
Also, is there a utility to select the network bandwidth, as there wasn't one already on the device - and I'm beginning to get a little concerned now!
Many thanks for your time so far!
-h
You can choose 900/1800 or 900/1900 from the bootloader, press/hold power while pushing reset with stylus, then when screen appears, push the button below the antenna, choose your appropriate band and from there, for model A choose 900/1800 for model B choose 900/1900. Make sure you have a working backup of your data when using this method.
Using a T-Mobile on European GSM
Thanks for your help.....I managed to get it into bootloader, but was pressing the contacts button (left) rather than the right (calendar).
I now have managed to get the device to see the local 900MHz network, so it's functioning !
Your help has been much appreciated!
-h
Any one helps me please.
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much
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bmh said:
I need the radio version A.20.10 for my T-mobile XDA. thanks very much
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http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/RSU_VA20.10_PPC.zip
Hello,
I was going to purchase a Telstra 9193 Australian version which has HESPA 850. My question is regarding flashing a custom rom. If I leave the radio stock and flash a rom will it work since it has a different frequency?
Anyone bought one for use with Telus or Bell or guess AT&T and flashed a custom rom? I have been reading about a setting for frequency?
Also do you know where I can get the stock Telstra rom so if i need to go back?
Thanks
I imagine it should work as long as the radio rom is intact, but I'm not positive and would also like to hear from somebody who has tried using the Australian Phone.
I would gladly buy another HD2 to get US 3G...not on T Mobile.
I have the Telstra HD2 it works with 3g in NA with flashed roms and also with upgraded radio ( currently I have the 2.8)
SnooPPP said:
I imagine it should work as long as the radio rom is intact, but I'm not positive and would also like to hear from somebody who has tried using the Australian Phone.
I would gladly buy another HD2 to get US 3G...not on T Mobile.
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The Australian version is compatible with carriers who run 3G network on 850Mhz (Rogers, AT&T, Telus, Bell ...). I`m using one right now with Rogers. This 850Mhz frequency is hardware related and can`t be altered by flashing the radio. On some custom ROMs which required to use certain radios to enable the 576 RAM.
Should be fine
drj said:
Hello,
I was going to purchase a Telstra 9393 Australian version which has HESPA 850. My question is regarding flashing a custom rom. If I leave the radio stock and flash a rom will it work since it has a different frequency?
Anyone bought one for use with Telus or Bell or guess AT&T and flashed a custom rom? I have been reading about a setting for frequency?
Also do you know where I can get the stock Telstra rom so if i need to go back?
Thanks
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I've flashed two ROMs (including a 23541-build) on to two different 9193s (the Telstra model - I don't believe there is any 9393 model), and they have been working fine. Better than the stock ROM. Also flashed the Radio on those phones to 2.08.50.08, and no problem there either. My bet is that you'd be fine.
Hey I'm using it on telstra in Aus, and I also have found no issues. Works well, no stress.
Well guess I will be flashing Thank you for the replys. I was getting confused with some saying there was a frequency setting in the rom and i did not want to brick my device.
I am very interested in using the Artemis rom on this Telstra 850mhz device. If anyone is doing that please let me know.
THANKS!
drj said:
Well guess I will be flashing Thank you for the replys. I was getting confused with some saying there was a frequency setting in the rom and i did not want to brick my device.
I am very interested in using the Artemis rom on this Telstra 850mhz device. If anyone is doing that please let me know.
THANKS!
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You will lose the 850Mhz frequency in the frequency setting when you flash the custom ROM. The reason for that, I think, is because the custom ROM is built from the EU/Asia base system. But no worry, there's a .cab from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624108&page=6 (post 58) where you can restore the Australian version frequency setting
hpacura said:
You will lose the 850Mhz frequency in the frequency setting when you flash the custom ROM. The reason for that, I think, is because the custom ROM is built from the EU/Asia base system. But no worry, there's a .cab from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624108&page=6 (post 58) where you can restore the Australian version frequency setting
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Unless you are flashing a crap rom you wont loose this. I haven't lost this in any rom I flashed. Just because the phone doesnt offer the hardware doesnt mean wimo doesnt show the bands look at the tp1 tp2 from europe both showed 850 as an option just didnt work for hsdpa